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For days, only sources within the Hollywood moguls camp, but not the Writers Guild of America, have discussed what really went on during 11th hour negotiations with the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers at the Sofitel Hotel Sunday. And the movie studios and TV networks were especially savvy in getting their story out first and foremost about how the writers were to blame for the bargaining talks breakdown. And they’re still telling that story. (Just read the producers-slanted coverage by Variety and The Hollywood Reporter and even the major newspapers which all depend on studio and network advertising, while I stay smack in the middle.) But now the WGA leadership is breaking their silence.
Top guild sources tell me they were “deliberately duped” by the moguls in a backchannel deal to bring the guild back to the bargaining table Sunday. They say the lure was a promise by two Big Media CEOs — Peter Chernin and Les Moonves — that, if the writers gave up their DVD residual demands, then the producers would respond by improving the formula on the central sticking issue of Internet downloads for movies and television. My producer sources confirmed to me such a deal was indeed made. In other words, it could have been possible that a settlement might be only days or a week away, with enough progress to induce the writers side to suspend the Monday start of the strike.
The writers say they kept up their end by dropping their DVD demands – a huge concession which later puzzled the WGA membership because it seemed to come out of nowhere and had to be explained by WGA president Patric Verrone without revealing the whole backstory. Why didn’t he? Because the WGA says it was abiding by the “mutual pledge of confidentiality” with AMPTP that, for the first time in all the negotiations, applied to Sunday’s session. Today, sources there decided to spill to me because the writers’ side of the 11th hour talks story has gone untold. The WGA accuses the producers of not delivering on the all-important electronic sell-through issue all day Sunday. And the producers confirm to me that, no, their negotiators did not offer anything on ”EST”. So, according to guild sources, that’s the real reason the 12:01 AM strike wasn’t averted, and their dropped DVDs demands put back on the table.
As a spitting mad WGA leader put it to me today: “All I can say is, if someone calls me and says, “You do X, and I do Y” and that someone doesn’t do it, then I’ve been lied to and I’ve been played. It’s a complete betrayal. I just don’t know what the studios’ game is.”
So why is this news important? Because now both sides in this writers vs producers fight are further apart than they have ever been, and that’s saying a lot. Both sides believe they have fresh and ample reasons not to go back into negotiations anytime soon. And by soon a worst case scenario of months and months and months. Both sides believe that, after Sunday’s betrayals, they can’t trust the other side enough to even talk about scheduling new AMPTP/WGA negotiations much less try backchannelling. Ironically, as I was being told the WGA’s complaints today, moguls were being briefed on what went down Sunday inside the negotiating room. But are they being told the whole story? About the backchannel deal? Not that I can tell. About the promise that’d been made? Not that I can tell. About not keeping it? Not that I can tell. Instead, I received a warning from inside that camp today not to report the WGA accusations, or name the two moguls, or repeat what went on inside the talks Sunday. But, to stay smack in the middle, I can’t do that — just as I can’t favor the other side when reporting about this strike and its issues.
Let me start at the beginning of last weekend: Yes, a Barry Meyer-John Wells-John Bowman backchannelling avenue was being explored. And any and all other backchannelling avenues were being cultivated as well. As I’ve reported previously, among the moguls Chernin, the No. 2 at News Corp/Fox, is the biggest hawk, and Moonves, the CBS CEO, one of the biggest moderates. The two got in touch with WGA negotiating leaders and made this pledge: that, if the writers got back to the bargaining table over the weekend and once there gave up their DVD residual demands, then the producers would respond by improving the formula on the central sticking issue of Internet downloads for movies and television. It was quite a surprise to the writers side because it was such a big departure since, as recently as last week, AMPTP had been telling the WGA that it wouldn’t move off the DVD formula on digital downloads.
As the Sunday negotiation was being scheduled for the Sofitel, the producers announced to the media Friday night that both sides had been “ordered” back to the table by the federal mediator. “The companies used the federal mediator to give them cover so they didn’t look like they’d caved and made the first call,” a WGA leader told me.
“We arrived at the meeting at 10 AM and it started a few minutes later with some discussions about procedure. We made it very clear we were ready to negotiate without stopping, as long as 2 to 3 days if necessary. But we said that, without a deal by midnight, or unless we were really really close, we were not going to suspend the strike. We said that, as things stood, the strike was going ahead at 9:01 PM in the East. And they said they understood. And we got going. And, as a gesture of good faith, we took the DVDs issue off the table. And they said they would get together and talk and get back to us with a response. In the meantime, we all said we’d work on one of the other proposals.”
That other proposal was the funding of the Showrunner Training Program, which is exactly what it says. The WGA side claims it waited, and waited, for the producers to keep the “DVDs-for-ESTs” promise and get back with a response. They claim the AMPTP negotiators kept “stalling and returning again and again to the bullshit side issue of Showrunner Training Programs for hours.” [The producers told me it “only took 15 minutes and was handled.”]
Both sides agree that two more producers proposals were discussed: a new economic model for streaming TV shows online, and a new jurisdictional model for made-for- New Media content. But the WGA described them as “fuzzy unfocused proposals”. (A WGA leader told me, “they’d say, ‘we have to figure out the numbers later’. But it’s all in the numbers.” The producers I talked to agreed their proposals needed more “fleshing out”.
Around early evening the two sides left the talks and went out to dinner instead of ordering in.
Finally, a little before 9 PM Pacific time just before the strike was to start at 12:01 AM Eastern time, “the producers came back to us with an answer to our DVD. It was all very calculated,” a WGA leader told me. “They said, ‘We are not going to make any concessions on the Internet. We stand by our former position that you will get the DVD formula on digital downloads. And we would like to ask if you guys would suspend the strike starting at midnight in the East. Are the pickets starting?’ [The producers confirmed to me they didn’t move off their electronic sell-through position to answer the WGA’s taking DVDs off the tables Sunday. "There wasn't enough time!" one of their insiders claimed to me.]
“We told them what we’d said right at the beginning of the day’s discussion — that we had to see progress for the strike not to start. They said, ‘Well, that’s it, we’re walking out. Goodbye and good luck.’ Our guys shouldn’t have been shocked but they were shocked. They weren’t ready for the game that was being played. We had made every effort, thinking that if the other side sees you’re serious… and we were shaken that the promise to us had been broken.
“But they’d obviously planned. They knew we were completely unprepared and in the haze of believing our mutual pledge of confidentiality. Their story was that they saw on the Internet that the strike had started – but they just happened to have a news release ready. By the time we realized what was going on, we’d missed the news cycle. They clearly orchestrated this, and we got caught with our pants down.”
[I can confirm that the WGA's statement came out hours after AMPTP's immediate one and noted "the AMPTP proposed that today's meeting be 'off the record,' meaning no press statements, but they have reneged on that."]
Again, the producers’ side has been told by me and other media. But, again, this is the first time the WGA’s side of the story is being told. Each believes that their version of events is truthful. Which is why this is akin to a crowd observing a crime and later few can agree on the facts of what really happened.
I’m dismayed and discouraged by all of it.





so… what’s the Producer’s motivation for not holding up their end? To make the WGA look stupid?
I don’t understand the studio’s grounds for “feeling betrayed.” The writers didn’t do anything they didn’t give ample warning about. They said they’d strike days before.
Clearly this strike was a desired consequence on the part of the AMPTP.
Here’s hoping they desire now to end it rather than run thousands of working people into the ground.
It will be interesting to see how these Corporate Bullies explain to their respective Corporate Boards and shareholders how their disingenous “bully” tactics cratered their stocks and revenues for the coming quarters.
Now the word is out and more and more TV Showrunners will shut down production as a result of their risky gamesmanship. Explain that.
I’ll keep refreshing until my hands fall off or Nikki posts something new. Why? Because without her, the only thing we’d have is the stuff in the trades. And that stuff should be taken very very lightly.
Nikki, thank you.
Thanks for giving us false hope with your previous post. I’m glad I kept refreshing to hear the worst possible news ever.
WOW.
This town is fcuked.
btw, you deserve all the ad clicks you get!
Thanks for update – not exactly drudge material but thanks. btw, guys complaining about the advisory not being posted fast enough — hello – she’s a writer – she needs to compose – and – who can blame her for a little advance – remember nothing new had been post all day except for anecdotes etc. my prediction: this strike will mark an even bigger advance of the digital revolution’s dominantion arrival.
Surprise!
What have I been saying all along. This strike will end when the powers that be say it is going to end. Much like the Iraq War will end when the people really in power (Oil Companies, Halliburton, Dick Cheney), say it is going to end. This is no different.
The people pulling the purse strings want to lower their overhead significantly, and this is the best way to do it.
I applaud Moonves and Chernin for trying, and sounds like they were using Wells as a conduit. But if those two were in on it, there is some major collusion going on, which I believe is against the labor laws of the State of California.
You see, after 6-8 weeks the AMPTP will want to go back to the table in one of the most transparent gestures in the history of barganing and we will be right back where we were on November 4.
DVD resids off of the table, and the Internet finally addressed. The question is in this state of lies and deceit, will the WGA be placated by that…my guess is no, and we are in the muck for a long period of time.
There is a great play by John Galsworthy called STRIKE, that really shows the cause and effects of a labor stoppage, and how everyone loses. I believe in this case everyone is going to lose.
Writers are now learning what agents and negotiators on the studio/network side do everyday. You don’t have to trust the person you are negotiating with, just get the best possible deal you can for your clients. The idealism on both sides needs to stop, and reality needs to come into play here.
REALITY: The feature studios don’t need writers for a long while. The TV Networks need writers now or else there is no TV season after February, unless you count shows from BBC, TV9 in Australia, or some sort of French game show as entertaining television.
Hell, I’m an agent at a mid-sized agency, and I think I can get this thing done in 4-5 hours. It ain’t brain surgery.
When you next speak to your “mogul” sources, ask them the following three questions…
1) Did the WGA pull the DVD demand off the table (the answer is clearly YES).
2) When they pulled the DVD demand off the table, what did you offer in return (the answer, from all sources, seems to be nothing).
3) What did you offer over the course of those Sunday negotiations that would have prompted the WGA to wake their sleeping writers up in New York and tell them (at 12:31AM) to… um… start writing immediately.
The “moguls” look more like “children”, greedy and a tad bit pathetic.
I still don’t understand why an outside mediator can’t force the two sides to meet – especially since this impacts thousands of people and an entire city is going to be impacted by a prolonged strike.
Huh. That sucks. I was hoping for a speedy resolution to the strike too. *sigh*
Speaking as someone who lived thru the first strike, I can’t tell you how valuable it is to have an objective source of information. And given the bilge the LA Times and the Trades have been pouring into the middle of this mess? Your work is even more important. Thanks.
it’s gonna be a long, cold winter…
You are amazing. Thank you for all your tremendous hard work during this extremely difficult time.
Wait, what? WHY ARE THE producers upset at US? If this is true, we’re the only ones without reason to come back to the table. Shame on you Les et. all. Shame, friggin’ shame. Nikki, thank you for reporting this. They’re disgusting. Their agenda is indefensible, and now so are their actions.
Chernin & Moonves: Way to let your greed and duplicity fuck up this entire industry. Well played, douche bags. (How do you sleep at night?)
If this is true then it sounds like the Boards of Directors had better get on the horn to their CEOs and Presidents and tell them to do whatever it takes to restore trust. Six months from now there will be no Studio System as we know it. Replacement shows are already springing up online.
I KNEW ALL THIS BUT IT IS ALWAYS HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THIS SITE AND READ UP ON THE LATEST – there (sorry – caps thingy) but I dont agree that the sides will stay away from the bargaining table for “months and months and months.” This to me makes no sense – I understand that it doesn’t help us to get a crappy deal, but we can’t get even a fair deal without talking the issues through. The WGA has every right to be upset over what went down Sunday night but it doesn’t help anyone (especially the “middle class” writers) to stay away from even talking just to show how tough we are. It’s too bad someone else can’t negotiate for the producers – instead of Counter – say… Pol Pot.
I am rock solid ready to fight to those lying m*therf*ckers like they stole something for me. And when my money runs out I will work at f*cking 7/11 and picket those motherless f*cks till I either stop breathing or die of too much frozen burrito consumption.
Another insightful post. All of this stuff has been a good read for us outsiders.
both sides believe they have ample reasons not to go back into negotiations? from what you say, it sounds like the writers are the only ones who have a good reason not to negotiate.
when is everywhere going to realize that there is more at stake here than just a cut of the internet, and that more was lost in ’88 than just home video residuals?
the studios are treating the writers like this because twenty years ago we gave them a reason to think they can. this strike is about taking back our respect and showing them that when we really want something we are not afraid to fight tooth and nail to get it. and i’ll be out there on the picket lines every single day until we do.
Thank God for Nikki.
Who gives a shit if they like each other, or even trust each other? Why should they? They have fundamentally opposed viewpoints. That doesn’t mean they should stop talking while the town shuts down for months. People in a lawsuit don’t like or trust each other either, but they have to keep talking to bring a conclusion. The Producers have an obligation to their employees and shareholders, and the Guild has an obligation to its members. If they don’t like the deal, then don’t sign on the dotted line. But saying they don’t want to meet because they are upset with each other is ridiculous.
With both sides pouting and declaring betrayal like a plot turn in your daytime soap opera of choice, I don’t see the strike ending anytime soon. It’s clear that both sides hate each others guts so much that they’re completely incapable of negotiating a thing so what needs to be done is new leadership on both sides to be brought in to hash this out. This is the problem with having people in positions for too long. Things become personal because past slights come into play. We need fresh yet knowledgable people to enter the room and sort this out.
I hope this gets resolved quickly. Picketing is a lot more exhausting than I thought. And I doubt I can count on Eva Longoria to buy me pizza every day.