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THURSDAY PM UPDATE: I’m told WGA negotiators are still waiting for the other “half” of the AMPTP’s Day #4 new proposals (the half that presumably contains the missing terms on ESTs, electronic sell-throughs?) which agent Bryan Lourd said should be in their hands by Tuesday if not before. Then the writers will make a counter-offer to producers on Tuesday. Here’s the WGA West and East email to members critical of today’s New Media offers by the AMPTP on streaming, content made for new media, and programming delivered over digital broadcast channels:
To Our Fellow Members,
After four days of bargaining with the AMPTP, we are writing to let you know that, though we are still at the table, the press blackout has been lifted.Our inability to communicate with our members has left a vacuum of information that has been filled with rumors, both well intentioned and deceptive.
Among the rumors was the assertion that the AMPTP had a groundbreaking proposal that would make this negotiation a “done deal.” In fact, for the first three days of this week, the companies presented in essence their November 4 package with not an iota of movement on any of the issues that matter to writers.
Thursday morning, the first new proposal was finally presented to us. It dealt only with streaming and made-for-Internet jurisdiction, and it amounts to a massive rollback.
For streaming television episodes, the companies proposed a residual structure of a single fixed payment of less than $250 for a year’s reuse of an hour-long program (compared to over $20,000 payable for a network rerun). For theatrical product they are offering no residuals whatsoever for streaming.
For made-for-Internet material, they offered minimums that would allow a studio to produce up to a 15 minute episode of network-derived web content for a script fee of $1,300. They continued to refuse to grant jurisdiction over original content for the Internet.
In their new proposal, they made absolutely no move on the download formula (which they propose to pay at the DVD rate), and continue to assert that they can deem any reuse “promotional,” and pay no residual (even if they replay the entire film or TV episode and even if they make money).
The AMPTP says it will have additional proposals to make but, as of Thursday evening, they have not been presented to us. We are scheduled to meet with them again on Tuesday.
In the meantime, we felt it was essential to update you accurately on where negotiations stand. On Wednesday we presented a comprehensive economic justification for our proposals. Our entire package would cost this industry $151 million over three years. That’s a little over a 3% increase in writer earnings each year, while company revenues are projected to grow at a rate of 10%. We are falling behind.
For Sony, this entire deal would cost $1.68 million per year. For Disney $6.25 million. Paramount and CBS would each pay about $4.66 million, Warner about $11.2 million, Fox $6.04 million, and NBC/Universal $7.44 million. MGM would pay $320,000 and the entire universe of remaining companies would assume the remainder of about $8.3 million per year. As we’ve stated repeatedly, our proposals are more than reasonable and the companies have no excuse for denying it.
The AMPTP’s intractability is dispiriting news but it must also be motivating. Any movement on the part of these multinational conglomerates has been the result of the collective action of our membership, with the support of SAG, other unions, supportive politicians, and the general public. We must fight on, returning to the lines on Monday in force to make it clear that we will not back down, that we will not accept a bad deal, and that we are all in this together.
Patric M. Verrone, President, WGAW
Michael Winship, President, WGAE
UPDATE: Here’s the AMPTP official statement from Talks Day #4:
LOS ANGELES, November 29, 2007 – “The AMPTP today unveiled a New Economic Partnership to the WGA, which includes groundbreaking moves in several areas of new media, including streaming, content made for new media and programming delivered over digital broadcast channels.
The entire value of the New Economic Partnership will deliver more than $130 million in additional compensation above and beyond the more than $1.3 billion writers already receive each year. In response, the WGA has asked for time to study the proposals. While we we strongly preferred to continue discussions, we respect and understand the WGA’s desire to review the proposals. We look forward to resuming talks on Tuesday, December 4.
We continue to believe that there is common ground to be found between the two sides, and that our proposal for a New Economic Partnership offers the best chance to find it.”
EXCLUSIVE BULLETIN: The AMPTP presented what its sources just told me are “a number of New Media proposals” today at Talks Day #4.
“This is the day it shook loose,” a relieved insider just told me minutes ago. (This is also what I was reporting in my explusive post, Moguls Supposed To Present A Better Offer To Writers At Talks Today.) I’ve learned the AMPTP presented the WGA with “new terms involving streaming, made-for, Internet, and other issues”. The networks and studios are claiming that WGA requested a suspension in the talks until Tuesday December 4th to study the new proposals. My sources say this came as something of a surprise to the moguls’ side because their negotiating team was “ready to keep bargaining through the weekend”. On the other hand, the AMPTP side finally presented the terms with so much fanfare that it really surprised the WGA negotiators who’d been increasingly doubful they’d ever see anything new. But let’s not be overly optimistic or naive, either. The big questions now are: Are these truly “new” proposals or just newly packaged ”old” proposals? And are they good enough to get this strike settled by Christmas?
Let’s hope…
- Moguls Supposed To Present A Better Offer To Writers At Talks Today
- Talks Day #3 ‘Stalemated’
- Talks Day #2 Still Friendly But Unproductive; “Game Of Chicken”
- Talks Day #1 Productive; “Reasonableness Ruled The Day”
- Dare We Hope A Deal Has Been Struck…?
- Talks Restarted At Agent Bryan Lourd’s Home After Weeks Of Quiet Backchannel
- LET’S STRIKE A DEAL! Both Sides Agree To Go Back Into Talks
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.


Everyone take a deep breath, relax. Much better. Before we go leaping to conclusions, let’s wait and see what the offer is. We have to trust our guild leadership to respond intelligently, as I’m sure they will. One major caution. It’s entirely possible that AMPTP has made a poor offer in hopes of confusing the public and causing fracture within the guild. This is no time to lose our resolve. Or our heads.
Isn’t there a media blackout in place? The fact they released a statement, praising their own proposal seems fishy and underhanded at best…
Meanwhile, the moguls will give themselves another payrise of about $10 million.
With the late presentation in regards to new media, it makes sense to take a calm rational look at the proposal.
pb, measure twice, cut once when cutting new wood.
Calm down. My gut says there’s a good chance this is more PR bullshit
Writers have been complaining for weeks that “WE didn’t walk away from negotiations — the Producers did!”
Then they get an offer that — from outside appearances — seems fair. If nothing else, there’s no denying it’s a big step forward.
The WGA response? Give us a week.
Maybe the WGA doesn’t understand — PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK BECAUSE OF YOUR DECISION TO WALK.
Is the proposal written in Ancient Sanskrit? Figure it out, people. Read the damn thing. Maybe try working through the weekend. If the deal sucks, you should know it right away. If the deal doesn’t suck — you’d better sign the damn thing on Tuesday.
(non-)Working Hollywood is counting on you to end this.
Merry Christmas from a below-the-line crew member who is out of work by the time you get back to the table.
I don’t get this 3 day or 6 week thing. When a show first airs on TV there is a finite number of potential viewers. It airs in a specific time slot for only that designated time period until it’s made available to view again. For something like this to work on the internet you’d have to make the show available in a first run phase, take it down and make it available later for a residual phase.
There are no repeats for streaming content though-each view is unique. The internet is global and available 24/7, the potential number of viewers is everyone in the world who has a computer and internet access. The show should be made available indefinitely and you get a flat percentage per view.
People need to stop trying to apply the TV model to the internet, it’s a whole different animal.
Gotta admire good old Variety. Headline:
“Writers Balk in Talks”
I understand taking Friday as a break from talks. I understand that WGA teams are probably working through the weekend to dissect the proposal.
What I don’t understand is what they are doing on Monday.
This was an opportunity for the WGA leadership to make a huge statement. Come back first thing Monday morning and declare the proposal crap, or announce that they’re bringing it to the membership.
When this is all done (hopefully next week), I’d LOVE to hear a REAL reason why they needed the extra day. Cos let’s face it — that basically kills any chance of crew members returning to work next week.
Both sides need to get this worked out and let the rest of us get back to work.
Well, I admire how the AMPTP played this — three days of buildup, accompanied by strategic press leaks, followed by a splashy release of a cheery-sounding counterproposal. It’s not just a set of numbers — it’s a New Economic Partnership(TM)! (Since when do offers at the table have brand names? Has the WGA missed out on something here? Should their offers have each had a special name? The Very Reasonable Offer, Son of the Very Reasonable Offer, The Very Reasonable Offer III: We Can’t Believe You Still Haven’t Given us Digital, etc.) And I admire the AMPTP’s strategy in giving it a name — the New Economic Partnership(TM) has a ring of finality, a take-it-or-leave-it quality that a simple counteroffer wouldn’t have. They played the week well — they rolled this proposal out like it was “Cloverfield”.
Now the question is, what’s in TNEP(TM)? Is that $130 million figure for real? And, just as important, where’s that money located? Is it in areas that are going to grow, like digital? Or is it in areas that are shrinking? I’m as anxious to get back to work as anyone. But I don’t want to jump on this offer till it’s been thoroughly studied, because I don’t want to get stuck with a lousy deal for the next 20 years. And if it takes four days to parse it, so be it.
The 4 days is to read the proposal, understand the language, and make a counter. Rushing it would cause mistakes. I’ll give them the time it takes to make it right and as bullet-proof as possible.
Looking forward to the 4th.
I suppose the WGA could study the deal faster than 4 days but then the AMPTP wouldn’t be able to kill your career with force majeure and get so busy with DGA negotiations to sit down with the WGA.
Let’s snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Drag it out.
Give them the four days to read the proposal, dissect the numbers, and come up with a counter strike.
I’m willing to not rush and make mistakes like in the past.
Looking forward to the 4th!
Anything to stop the YouTube videos
‘New Economic Partnership’… anything this nobly titled can only be bs. it’s going to be a long cold winter.
I’ll wait to hear back from our Guys. I wish they (WGA) put a team together to go over this tonight so we can get a better sense of what the AMPTP’s first lowball offer is. We really don’t need all this time to go over the numbers. And that AMPTP “Statement” seems more a PR move than anything else.
Don’t get fooled, they have a strategy in place…
If the bulletin the WGA just sent out is anywhere close to believable (and I have no reason to think otherwise), we are barely any closer to a resolution than we were a month ago.
- $250 for unlimited online reuse of TV
- $0.00 for unlimited online reuse of film
No internet jurisdiction.
No DVD increases.
See you on the picket lines Monday… and January… and probably beyond… hope that ‘force majeur’ is worth losing this season and next.
I think somebody’s might be in need of an update. Have you taken a look at the e-mail the WGA just sent to the membership
FORCE MAJUER. I told you guys. Seriously, learn already. I know what I’m talking about.
Go, Verrone.
If it were me, I’d call this a “no”.
“Media Blackouts” and “Gag orders” only create rumors and obfuscate the truth.
How about we are all adults. Tell us what is going on.
do all you writers wear tinfoil hats? or is it just the poor ones?
BAD NEWS – The Strike Continues.
http://www.unitedhollywood.com
If this doesn’t end soon I’m going to have to find an on strike writer and move in (I hope you all have nice homes and extra sleeping space.) ALOT of us are on our last savings and without the lecture about you’re evil, no you’re evil, no your not giving us what we want – whatever -
Do I want to move in with a mogul? Sure, I don’t care I WANT TO WORK AND PAY MY RENT & BILLS.
Save the guild/AMPTP party line for someone who still cares…
I get any work, reality/anything, I’ll cross the damn picket line. I wonder if it is possible to file a class action suit ending this crap – “we as the suffering parties demand monetary damages and punitive punishments.” hmmmmm
The producers claim they’re offering $130 million a year increase. The WGA says what they are asking for amounts to $151 million over three years ($50 million a year). Clearly someone’s math is off here.