Back on December 6, 2007, Directors Guild Of America President Michael Apted, Negotiations Committee Chair Gil Cates, and National Executive Director Jay D. Roth received a letter from 300 of the joint WGA-DGA members asking them to refrain from entering negotiations. Supposedly the DGA is going to announce on Thursday a start date for its negotiations. This letter sure makes it sound as if they expect to wrap up the talks by the end of January. (My understanding is that the DGA’s hired gun, uber-attorney Kenny Ziffren, has put together a New Media proposal that has significant — and what the agents are telling me, potentially positive –consequences for the other guilds.) Here’s the text:
Dear Member,
We didn’t want to let too much time go by before we answered your letter. We want you to know this response comes from our heartfelt understanding of the difficult times we are all in together.The DGA Negotiations Committee had its fourth meeting yesterday and we discussed your letter. We mention this so you will understand that this response reflects the very open discussion we had with your fellow Guild members.
To begin with, we understand the importance of new media and its potential impact on all our futures — and on those who follow us. DGA has spent close to 18 months developing research, meeting with outside experts, and talking to our members about these issues. They have been discussed by the Board and the Negotiations Committee for well over a year.
We understand well the importance of protecting our members. We will not rest until our members get a fair and equitable deal for the work they create in both old and new media. Since its founding, the Guild has consistently fought hard for that goal. For more than 70 years we have managed, often without fanfare, to negotiate good deals for all of us and we are proud of the strength of our Basic Agreement. We have no intention of letting our members down or betraying the rights of the directors who went before us. There is a reason that few in the industry ever accuse the DGA or its members of being pushovers. We’ve never been that and we don’t plan to start now.
This issue is not between the DGA and the WGA. To make that the fight only strengthens the other side. But sharing a goal is not the same as sharing tactics and strategy. And our differing views of the best way to achieve our goals may lead us to act differently. Traditionally our negotiations start early and usually are done by January. This has been our pattern for the past 20 years for a very simple reason: We believe — and our experience shows — that this is the most effective way to negotiate the best deal. The WGA has made a different decision on how to handle their negotiations. Out of respect for them, we have done what you asked for in your letter — we have refrained from commencing our own negotiations. And, at the same time we have refrained from commenting publicly on our thoughts about the direction of their proposals and the progress of their negotiations.
But the reality is that WGA and the AMPTP have been meeting since July — and, despite a strike that has put tens of thousands of people out of work, they seem nowhere near reaching a deal. Each passing day, more people are unemployed. We are getting calls from members who are worried about their economic livelihood and their families. We’re sure you feel the same concern for yourselves and the people who work for you.
Because so much time has gone by without any resolution, we find ourselves faced with some hard questions. Is a fresh perspective — and additional muscle — needed to get the job done? Is it our turn to sit across the table from the AMPTP? What we know is that we cannot abdicate our responsibility to our members by putting their fate in the hands of another union whose tactics and strategy we have not been able to influence. Our members expect the Guild to fight for them when things get tough. We promised all of you we would do that in our most recent membership letter. We believe this is the essence of responsible unionism, which is the least you and all our members have a right to expect from us.
Sincerely,
Michael Apted
DGA PresidentGil Cates
Chair, DGA Negotiations CommitteeJay D. Roth
DGA National Executive Director






This is the best piece of news since we heard that the AMPTP had returned to the table two weeks ago (of course, we all know how well THAT turned out).
Let’s hope civility, planning, and decent negotiating skills prevail…
Seems…reasonable. What am I missing? Or has there just been so much bull$#!* flying that Jerry Springer should be hosting strike coverage?
You all see the handwriting on the wall?
That’s a big F U, right?
You know what? I could give a crap where the deal comes from if it’s a good deal. If it’s a bad deal, it ain’t gonna fly. The DGA wants to play good cop to our bad cop, I got no problem with that.
Unless they screw up like they did in ’88. Oh, and ’01. And ’04. Then they’re gonna get hit with the phonebook, too.
What does this letter say?
are they going to start talks or not?
So it says the DGA did an 18 month of research on new media. Has anyone seen it? What conclusions did they reach?
The DGA can allow the companies save face. They can make a good deal so the companies can then turn to the writers and say “See, that’s how it’s done.” Then we writers are all “humiliated,” and countless articles are written chiding the WGA, saying “was it worth it?”
And then the WGA gets the same deal as the DGA.
Ooh, I hope they humiliate us!
The DGA’s leverage is coming from the fact that the WGA and SAG are not going to accept a bad deal. They must get a good one or face having nothing to direct.
As “occasional showrunner” says, happy to be the bad cop. Let’s just get all the cops back on the beat, yes?
I respect that the DGA has a responsibility to represent its members. I also agree that the more “muscle” we have behind us the better. But there is no reason any hypothetical DGA agreement with AMPTP should have any bearing on the WGA’s negotiations with AMPTP. It’s two different groups with completely different demographics (most DGA’ers are BTL/no residual crew), so to have the same deal make no sense anyway. If the DGA comes to a deal with the AMPTP before the WGA, so be it. A DGA agreement amounts to a hill of beans without scripts to direct. This is where the WGA’s interests directly intersect with the DGA’s and where our leverage lies. Should the DGA sign, we may have to wait until SAG’s contract expires if the current levels of pain aren’t enough for Leslie “highest paid/worst performing CEO” Moonves and the other overpaid stuffed suits stinking up the corner offices.
We’re all in this together, DGA, WGA and SAG, no matter what the DGA does. And until IATSE comes to see that Tom Short is an AMPTP’s lapdog, they probably won’t make any great advances in their contracts either.
Right now I think we should be sitting at the table alone, waiting for the AMPTP stop shooting off their collective mouth with vitriolic and misleading press releases and return to negotiate ALL of the points they categorically reject. These “negotiating sessions” should be publicized as widely as possible. I’d love to see it on the news and on YouTube. The only people who think that the AMPTP is negotiating in good faith are those that have a vested interest in their destruction of the unions. I’d like to know how the AMPTP is going to get out of this and still save face, since saving face is so important to these fatuous egomaniacs — even more important than getting back to negotiating so all of us, the writers and suffering BTL’ers can get back to work.
The thing that keeps coming back to mind for me is that the DGA generally only has one director per project who gets all the royalties per his guild contract. However, concerning the WGA and writers, there generally are multiple writers all sharing a percentage that is often equal to what one DGA director is getting all to himself.
SAG gets a bigger check to split amongst multiple actors. Another thing, there are lots of directors who also produce and negotiate better positions for themselves. There are far fewer writers who are able to do this. It’s not an even playing field in any way.
- writer, not yet in the guild
The DGA isn’t some kind of white knight riding to the rescue. They’re weak and they’ve always been weak. Even this letter isn’t a strong endorsement of their position. They’re ready to roll over. The only unions that can keep Hollywood a union town with middle class jobs are the WGA, SAG and the Teamsters. Let’s hope one of them succeeds because the DGA is already showing it’s ready to take whatever crumbs are offered.
we have done what you asked for in your letter — we have refrained from commencing our own negotiations. And, at the same time we have refrained from commenting publicly on our thoughts about the direction of their proposals and the progress of their negotiations.
But Nikki just badassly outed this letter, and so his second point is now moot. It’s public. Hmm. Was that intentional?
Regarding the WGA, this letter is something a Christian parent of a gay son would say: “I love the sinner, but I hate the sin.”
Or, as tf above puts it more simply, “kind of an FU, right?”
Let’s see… AMPTP has pretty much shot all their big guns… in public no less revealing their terrible aim and lack of quality armor. Even the tinest theme days seem to get under their super sensitive skin…
The DGA has been doing in-depth research while watching AMPTP bit itself in the bum…
Hmm. I won’t want to be on AMPTP’s side of the table if the DGA pulls up their chair next to the WGA.
pb, it’s going to be a bumpy ride…
“Writing on the wall?” Sure.
DGA makes a strong deal for internet and the WGA then follows, using that strong deal to support their own.
Why is that a problem?
Everybody keeps saying the DGA is in a much better negotiating position than the WGA — good. Let’s see it in action.
How ’bout if the dga makes a crappy deal the wga adds one more demand to our list — all films must have the words “a script by” before the title of the movie.
Occasional showrunner exemplifies the bitterness and unrealistic ideology that has been the hallmark of the WGA strike. It’ll be easy to call me an AMPTP shill, but I’m not. I’m a DGA UPM/Line Producer who will be out of a job in about a week. One of the guys wondering how I will pay my mortgage, etc. I’m proud that my guild will enter these negotiations from a sound, rational perspective.
As far as screwed up goes, let’s not forget that the average DGA member makes far less than a WGA member in base salary. Even if I rise to the top of my rank as a producer hyphenate, I won’t make as much as a WGA-producer hyphenate in base salary. Add that to the average workday being 14 hours for me, versus 8-10 for a writer. Oh, and an additional script fee for the writer.
Wanna talk screwed up? I don’t. I just want to do my job. Thanks to the short-sighted and ridiculous negotiations by the WGA thus far, I can’t. Let’s hope that the DGA can rationally get this back on track, and that the WGA can be adults about it and quit whining about the us.
I had this letter translated so that my eight year old could understand, and it says:
We’re not waiting for you guys to resolve your strike WGA. We’re going to make a deal QUICK, and agree to VERY LITTLE, so that your leverage gets even weaker than it already is.
SIGH…
Although it is historical that the DGA negotiates early, and with a softer hand, I think that watching the WGA negotiations unfold (or not unfold) is a compelling incentive to get into the trenches now and wrangle out their own deal. The WGA is every bit as guilty for causing rifts with other unions as the AMPTP. Both the WGA and the AMPTP are using sledgehammer tactics. The WGA just has a smaller sledgehammer. WGA members have already been badmouthing the DGA in anticipation that they would not side with them. And they won’t. Who could blame them at this point. SAG might stand a little tougher, but I wouldn’t expect too much.
Other union members are running scared watching this strike. Some are vocal about it, many not. But the mishandled negotiations on part of the WGA would make SAG and DGA look like lemmings if they were to put into force the same strategies and tactics as the WGA. And when the AMPTP makes a reasonable deal with the DGA and they don’t strike, it will make the WGA look worse. And it will undermine support from other unions, and to some extent viewers and the general public.
This strike will make a great documentary. Writers asked for fair compensation for their work. Then did everything possible to insure that they wouldn’t get it. Why? Poor leadership that is consistently ignored or blindly defended by its members.
It’s not funny. It’s not a travesty. It’s just plain tragic.
When the strike is over maybe you can recoup some of your losses selling your picket signs and solidarity pencils on ebay to Emerson students.
What????? This is a HUGE F U.
A couple of things stand out. To wit: (paraphrasing) This is not a fight between the WGA and the DGA. And our tactics and strategy won’t be the same.
Swell.
But even if the DGA signs a contract tomorrow, it’s my guess unless it’s good for the WGA membership the leadership won’t agree to the same terms (and they shouldn’t agree).
This time around (unlike ’88), the WGA is willing to fight it out (as they should) to get what’s fair. And nothing any other group does will change the WGA’s resolve.
Well, the response to this is gonna be fun. (Personally, I want this done. But the WGA deseves a fair deal. Crossing my fingers this can speed things up without spelling doom)
Yes, tf, that there is a big F U.
If they can get good deal, great. No one in the WGA cares where a good deal comes from.
But this isn’t 1988. if the DGA makes a deal that doesn’t satisfy the WGA membership they’re going to learn the same lesson that the AMPTP has: the WGA is unified and determined. Unlike the DGA, the WGA membership directly elects their leadership. We elected them for a reason. And despite the AMPTP’s efforts to convince us otherwise, our leaders know that reason. “NEW” MEDIA. So, the DGA seems determined to go ahead and negotiate. And they should. They owe that to their membership. But they had better understand that if they don’t make a good deal, the WGA and SAG will reject the DGA template. And then the DGA will have destroyed the one thing they care about more than anything… their status as the most powerful union in town.
So go DGA! Be the hero of the industry! We are all rooting for you! But you’d better do one hell of a great job… or you’ll find you won’t have any scripts to shoot or actors to direct. And you will have sacrificed your golden boy status in the process.
Can you please tell me how the DGA has screwed things up in ’88,’01′and ’04? After all, they’re not the ones striking to make up for an incompetent negotiation in 1988. The DGA has negotiated gains for their members in each of their new contracts. If we could say the same for the WGA maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess, watching the WGA desperately trying to make up for lost time.
good game, thanks for playing. DGA is going to start their negotiations and make a deal. SAG isnt going to strike if their members have been out of work since nov. and they even “somewhat” like the DGA deal. enormous pressure will be coming from all the unions for WGA to accept the deal DGA and SAG have.
hope you like what the directors negotiate for you.
P.S. i’d like to invite Verrone and Young to my poker night.