Here is what is clear to me based on new reporting about the entrenched positions of both sides: hopes for any kind of settlement have dimmed. I have learned that last week Jeffrey Katzenberg tried and failed to backchannel a compromise that would have brought both the WGA and the AMPTP back to the bargaining table. It was an effort that was laudable. But the fact that it was unsuccessful dramatically points up disturbing realities, I have learned: that the CEOs are deeply entrenched in their desire to punish the WGA for daring to defy them by striking and to bully the writers into submission on every issue, and that the moguls consider the writers are sadly misguided to believe they have any leverage left. I’m told the CEOs are determined to write off not just the rest of this TV season (including the Back 9 of scripted series), but also pilot season and the 2008/2009 schedule as well. Indeed, network orders for reality TV shows are pouring into the agencies right now. The studios and networks also are intent on changing the way they do TV development so they can stop spending hundreds of millions of dollars in order to see just a few new shows succeed. As for advertising, the CEOs seem determined to do away with the upfront business and instead make their money from the scatter market. I’m sorry to break this disappointing development right before Christmas, but I pledged to stay objective in my reporting and I can’t ignore this major news development. The truth often hurts. But don’t blame the messenger. And, no, this info wasn’t dumped in my lap, either. (That only happens over at Variety or the Los Angeles Times…)
The WGA-AMPTP post-strike talks fell apart December 7th when the mogul reps issued an ultimatum, containing six issues which the WGA needed to take off the table for any talks to continue, then ended all negotiations. Katzenberg as both a moderate this time around (he was a hardliner back during the WGA strike of 1988) and a bit player (as head of small DreamWorks Animation) has been marginalized by the Big Media moguls during these negotiations (unlike ’88 when he headed Walt Disney Studios and was a major henchman). Despite his lowly status, Jeffrey made an effort, with the full knowledge of the other CEOs, to get the talks restarted. “Ultimately, what he was trying to do was to bring both sides back before the DGA started negotiating,” a source told me.
So Katzenberg organized three give-and-take sessions between himself and 30 to 40 TV showrunners seeking his advice because of their concern about the WGA’s negotiating strategy. These so-called dissidents claim to represent at least a 100 hyphenates. And they say they had the blessing of three members of the WGA negotiating committee. But WGA insiders maintain there is no widespread showrunner movement to negotiate independently, “just a small group who mistakenly thought they could maneuver behind the scenes (with only the best intentions) but were blindsided by the AMPTP,” as an influential WGA insider tells me. WGA leadership claims showrunner unanimity and points to a series of smaller showrunner informational meetings that took place during the same period of time which included at least a hundred if not more. But not only WGA negotiating committee member Carlton Cuse went back to work to finish his producing duties on Lost without the knowledge of the general membership, so, too, did Marc Cherry, the Desperate Housewives showrunner and another WGA negotiating member. There’s no question many showrunners are now in solidarity with WGA leadership, both some are not. It’s true the strike is being waged on their backs because of their influential positions. And while these producer/writers are on the picket lines, the WGA for some reason has not gone after the director/writers or the actor/writers to stop working as the guild promised it would.
According to sources, Katzenberg told the dissident showrunners, “If your WGA leaders don’t make a deal with us before the DGA, my concern is you’ll never make a deal with us. The guild will break down and key people like yourselves will go Fi-Core. It’ll be 1988 all over again almost to the week and month. It’s my belief that it’s not in anyone’s interest, in fact it would be bad for the Industry as a whole, for the guild to get divided. And that’s what’s going to happen.”
Then Katzenberg went to Barry Meyer, the Warner Bros chairman/CEO considered a hardliner among the moguls, and told him that this clique of showrunners were ready to go to their leadership and tell them to focus only on New Media issues if the talks re-started. But the moguls needed to go back into negotiations without any conditions so that ultimatum had to be taken off the table. “Jeffrey told Barry, ‘I’m confident we will get a deal done if you go back in the room with the WGA now,’” an insider confided.
But Meyer, obviously speaking for the rest of the CEOs, refused. Now those dissident showrunners, I’m told, feel really burned. ”They totally understood now what the negotiating committee has been through for the past six months and were very apologetic that they had questioned leadership up until now. ‘Sheepish’ was the word I heard used,” one influential WGA insider tells me. ”Although now there really aren’t two differing opinions anymore. We all think the AMPTP sucks and that our guys have been sandbagged throughout this process.” So no talks are planned, none are anticipated, and if the moguls continue to have their way and blow up the TV development process, none will be forthcoming for months and months. That is the reality.
I am now convinced that the 8 Big Media moguls pretty much have a vice-like grip on how this strike will get settled. And virtually no amount of external pressure will force their hand. I know from my many years of reporting on labor negotiations in the U.S. and abroad that, in any new contract negotiation, there is one watershed moment when the union and the companies can move the flag down the field in a meaningful way before ego, rhetoric, and the passage of time get the better of everyone involved. Has that moment come and gone? I honestly don’t know, but if it hasn’t, then it’s soon — very soon.
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“Punish the writers”? So we’re not dealing with adults. In any case, since the money lost to the moguls in 1988 is what is allowing them to dig in now, it doesn’t make sense to give them any more financial leverage this time. Capitulating before they’ve taken losses would just add to the problem next time around. This is not punishment; in lieu of negotiations, it’s our only way to keep up.
CM
Why will the guild split when “important players” go Fi Core, if the “important players” in the room with Katzenberg are not going to split? Why won’t there be more requests for waivers as small players find themselves going out of business because of the CEOs’ intransigence? Everybody can’t write off huge losses, and I wonder if even the big corporations have stock holders who are into destructive losses, which are apparently to be sustained in order to “punish” the writers. The talks are right where they were before.
It’s clear the DGA needs to get behind the WGA. That’s the only message that the Producer’s are going to take seriously at this point if this info is correct.
With no pilot season, there isn’t going to be a 2008/2009 TV season, so this isn’t any new news. The moguls’ determination to write off the 08/09 season is not only unreasonable, it’s irresponsible, and I can’t see this happening. ABC has Grey’s and Desperate Housewives, and three shows that hit this fall in Private Practice, Pushing Daisies, and Dirty Sexy Money. So there is no way that ABC is going to go over an entire year without any new episodes of these shows. Separately, if Sarah Connor Chronicles becomes a hit for FOX, there’s no way they’re going to go over a year without making more episodes, especially since they are hurting for scripted hits. NBC has absolutely NO hit scripted show, and NO hit non-scripted flagship – they would TRULY be fucked.
There is ONE immediate way for the AMPTP to negotiate a deal, and that is for SAG actors working on movies and going on talk shows to conduct a sickout. That is the ONLY way because then the networks/studios would truly be aversely affected. Alan Rosenberg, you have the industry’s future in your hands. Help us PLEASE.
As I sit here on Xmas Eve, juggling bills,and trying to reinvent my BTL sound mixing career, all I can say is, I’ve already started mixing reality TV, and there were three camera, three sound, and a couple of producers. That’s it. And now we’re looking at a new year with no possibility of a let up. I supported the writer’s when they struck, (even walked the line). But with their obsession with reality TV, a lost cause even before the strike, I really feel they are all drinking kool-aid. They have been so hopelessly outmatched by the AMPTP (Big Media didn’t get big by being dumb and nice) that my only hope is the DGA gets a deal going. In the meantime, I’m day playing on reality TV. I’m thinking of some ideas to pitch too.
Merry Strikemas.
Once again, Nikki is being used…and perhaps Katzenberg as well, and the terror tactics continue. The moguls threaten nuclear winter to “punish” the WGA membership. What kind of businessmen think like this: to throw away billions in ad revenue rather arrive at a very modest deal with Hollywood talent that will ensure another two decades of peace and prosperity? I don’t believe even they have the power to thumb their noses at the advertisers and shareholders to whom they report. What in the world are they going to say to them when asked why they have blown up an entire industry: “We showed them!”?
The scenario about the guild splitting “just like ’88″ is disinformation being spread by the CEOs. Just because they say the guild will fall apart, it doesn’t mean the guild will fall apart. It’s a scare tactic and a manipulation, and it seems to be the talking point of the moment — there was a big article in the LAT about it last week (and none of us who wrote letters to the editor about it had them published). But the scenario isn’t a description of what is happening. It’s a description of what the AMPTP wants to happen. The trick is not to believe their hype and not to crack.
AMPTP would make horrible farmers. They spend all their money from last season’s corps on themselves leaving none to reinvest in buying seeds for spring fields, nor money for fertilizer nor the farmer to plant, let along till his corps. Instead they take their most valuable commodity, their airspace (land) and litter it with an endless array of circus tents and carneys (game shows and reality TV) – then wonder where their buyers have gone and their formerly bountiful fields lay barren.
Yes, AMPTP is changing the face of TV and perhaps soon, that of film as well, but I doubt they will be real thrilled with the income from absolute crop failure.
And the new rainmakers, Google & MSN etc., farmers of this century, carefully tend to their new crops with vast amounts of seed money invested in the land of the Internet… and DVD sales from those lands… all out of AMPTPs hands.
Anyone want to buy a season of a game show on DVD? Or even download it?
Nikki, we fear once again you are being used.
This is more doom and gloom psychological warfare to diminish WGA morale, and a desperate effort to stir up resentment against WGA.
Men are so emotional and they let their dick-measuring get in the way of smart business decisions. These men are particularly incompetent and shareholders should mutiny and overthrow them immediately. This could otherwise be a time of enormous profit for these companies – instead they are torpedoing an entire business because of their fragile egos (waa, waa, you made us look bad, WGA, waa waa)
If we were shareholders in these congloms, we’d be furious that these 8 guys were deliberately tanking our investment because of a dick-measuring contest.
We divested of all media holdings a while back because it was clear these guys don’t know what they’re doing – if we were currently shareholders, we’d divest immediately because it’s clear these men are too emotional and do not know what they are doing.
If these old farts will torpedo the entire industry (because they’re pissed that their authority was challenged!), they have far MORE to lose than WGA.
Don’t get psyched out by more of this posturing. Let them go down in history as the morons who torpedoed an entire industry.
Nikki–
I don’t think there’e any reason for you to apologize for anything. If there is still anyone out there in the guild who believes there is any amount of striking or holding out that will bring a “better” deal they are as wrong now as they were when we went out on strike and, at this point, deserve what they have coming. This strike has been fueled by a lack of sophistication and a grand naivate. I am a long-time, heavy dues-paying member of the guild and I have had it. Not only have we cost ourselves paychecks and seasons, but we’ve hastened a great distress on the television buisness that we’ll all be reeling from and talking about for years to come. My only hope is that the MORE INTELLIGENT and sophisticated Director’s Guild will make enough of a deal that the guild feels pressured to close one as well. If not, there may cease to be a guild from what I can sense among high-level writers and showrunners. At this point, maybe that’s not a bad thing….
The more reality shows ordered, the greater the blessing to WGA.
How much reality do you think viewers can take before they reject all of it wholesale? Like too much of anything, they will get sick of it and turn away from tv altogether.
We core reality producers are NOT happy about all the reality being ordered.
By overdoing reality, these idiot “moguls” will obliterate the “reality” genre.
You know, I just got here on the East Coast. Philly to be exact and I tried to drum up a convo about the strike and the overwhelming consensus is that “WHO the hell cares about the strike, TV sucks anyway”
I got upset and tried to defend the cause but sadly I was outnumbered. I will say that the groups favorite scripted shows were Martin and Seinfeld and then it turned to this whole thing about if the strike had occurred in the 90s it would have been a problem.
Maybe people don’t care because they are not really that satisfied with what TV today has become. I mean its mostly “cops with bionic powers who chase secret agents who dont know their secret until they die and a forensic pathologist can look them over meanwhile, the entire staff of hospitals manage to save lives despite the drama and the husbands go home to wives who are desperate.”
Will a contract agreement bring about change in TV?????
We knew, in our hearts that this was coming. We’re not fighting the same studios and networks that our predecessors did. We’re fighting corporations, just like the ones that have gutted other industries and stolen their employees pension and health funds. These guys are out to destroy the WGA. What’s next, farming the writing out to third world countries? Don’t laugh. It CAN happen. Maybe not Thailand and Vietnam, but what about England?
We are going to have to change tactics. I’m going to mull this over during the Christmas holidays when the studio that owes me money hasn’t sent me my checks, so I’m half-starving. Well, I work in other fields until these fucker at the studios starve to death. I can draw comics. I can sell suits. I can direct theater. What, exactly, can a film studio executive do?
Oh, right. Sell kiddie porn.
Well, there’s nothing left to say. The next move for the writers I believe, is for them to go to the people, the fans. I for one, speaking as a fan would be super pissed to go a whole year not seeing my favorite shows. That would break forever my viewing habits with TV. I would NOT watch any replacement reality crap. I am not watching it now (Battle of the choirs? Come the fuck on). Get the fans on your side and you may have a chance. Stockholders watch TV too. And – I know Hollywood hates The Oscars, but, come on, we’re talking tradition here. Can’t get rid of that! The other option is, for the writers to start going en-mass to the internet on their own. Bypass the producers. They’re a dead entity already. And they know it. They just hope you don’t. 15 year olds with a web cam know it.
So, this has never been, or will it be, about the well-being of the writers, the below-the-line people, their families, the Los Angeles economy or the health of the industry.
To the AMPTP, this has only been about winning. They expected the WGA to lay down, they didn’t. And now they are so angry that they didn’t get their way, they want to punish everyone for daring to have a say in their own careers.
And they might just be powerful enough, rich enough, and arrogant enough to get away with it.
Because now it sounds like that even if they give the DGA a deal that the writers would take, they won’t offer it to the writers. They won’t be happy until the crush the union.
A dark day for workers everywhere.
So six months ago when the Guild is broken and there’s still no deal are you clowns going to still be clinging to your “psy-ops” nonsense?
Was about to write about “just another transparent AMPTP psyche-out campaign,” then saw Marc Guggenheim 11:08 had it covered
Whew, good job, Big Media. Remember how you guys worked so hard to position yourselves as “content providers” the last few years? Yeah, well, good job — you guys just cut off your fuel supply. And speaking as a young twentysomething, I gotta say I’m not terribly worried about finding other ways to occupy my time. I’ll miss the good tv shows and movies, though.
PS: I’m not going to watch your crappy game shows.
Because they are assholes. No, seriously. They are the type of men that will throw away that kind of money to spite writers, just because they feel that, at all cost, they will NOT be pushed around by mere writers.
I believe this is all bluster from the AMPTP. We all know the egos involved in this strike. But I certainly don’t believe they moguls are ready to scrap not just this TV season, but next. They would also be sacrificing all movie features for the ’09 and ’10 years. They stand to lose way more money than they care to admit. I’m not saying the sides will get together any time soon, but a scenario will arise that will calm both sides down a bit and a settlement can be reached. Maybe Warner Bros. doesn’t need scripted product, but CBS will cease to exist if this tramples next TV season. Nikki, any chance this info was leaked to you as subterfuge? I wouldn’t put any of this past these guys and we’ve all been duped before. Stand strong WGA.
riddle me this — they aren’t going to end up throwing away all those billions – and the next two seasons won’t be lost because there will be a split in the guild before that — this is a game of chicken and we will lose if we don’t change our negotiating strategy right now. Do you think showrunners are going to hold out longer than multinational conglomerates? And once there is one defection, the Fi-Core floodgates will open and it will be chaos. We blew our wad when we struck. I hope I’m wrong about this.
Sure the other side are a bunch of this and that and the other – but seriously, does anyone really believe it’s always the other guy’s fault?
What if the so called shills are right? What if we overplayed our hand – NOT in terms of what we are asking for, but in HOW we are asking for it. I am not debating that what we are seeking is fair – I’m questioning the negotiating strategy of our leadership.
I resent that this has become a pissing contest and no matter how hard we try, our dicks will never be as big as General Electric’s. And I’m okay with that. I like my dick. I don’t need to prove anything with it. I just want to work. Like the tens of thousands of others out there who are currently unemployed. Merry Christmas to all.
Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I’d like Nick Counter, the AMPTP boss, right here tonight. If you can locate Gavin Polone… bring him along as well.
I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there in Aspen with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is.
Hallelujah. Holy shit. Where’s the Tylenol?
- Sloop John B.
So… a group of showrunners were approached to make a back channel deal, but even they didn’t want to sell us out to the point the moguls were happy. Other than that, the strike continues, and will continue until the AMPTP gets serious. I don’t see this as bad news. I see this as what happens in a strike. The moguls want us to think they are taking things personally and playing hard ball and willing to trash their own season. Truth is, when their stock prices drop, when they have to give back ad revenue, they will start to talk. Writers just need to hang tough, as they seem to be doing.
No surprise to me at all. I work at one of the studios and the inside feeling is hunker down, its gonna be a long ride and we are gonna change the business so make sure what you do here is needed.
Friends from other studios are getting the same vibe. I sadly feel the writers forgot who they were dealing with. Big, huge money making machines…no time for caring about the little guy..ever.