Turnabout is fair play. The general concensus is that the Alliance For Motion Picture & Television Producers is pursuing a “divide and conquer” strategy towards the striking writer. So the WGA is now saying that two can play that game. In fact, starting as soon as Monday. But will the Hollywood moguls take up the offer if it means they’re ostracized from the CEOs club (no tee time foursomes at Riviera or Bel Air Country Club) because they put shareholders before Big Media colleagues? I fear the answer is no. Because agents are telling me the Reality TV orders are coming in fast and furiously from the networks, who are clearly digging in for a long seige even it means scrapping most scripted series’ Back 9 and even pilot season. Here’s the latest WGA statement followed by the AMPTP’s. (See below for my analysis and read my previous, The Line To Break Mogul Ranks Is Here…):
A Message to the WGA Membership from its Negotiating Committee:
As you know, the AMPTP is currently unwilling to bargain with us. The internal dynamics of the AMPTP make it difficult for the conglomerates to reach consensus and negotiate with us on a give and take basis. We believe this multi-employer structure inhibits individual companies from pursuing their self-interest in negotiations. We nonetheless continue to hope that the AMPTP will return in good faith to negotiate a fair contract with writers, as two television seasons and numerous feature projects are currently at great risk.We want to do everything in our power to move negotiations forward and end this devastating strike. We have therefore decided to reach out to major AMPTP companies and begin to negotiate with them individually. As you may know, bargaining on a multi-employer basis through the AMPTP is an option for the WGA, not a legal requirement. Each signatory employer is required to bargain with us individually if we make a legal demand that it do so.
We will make this demand on Monday December 17th and hope that each company responds promptly, in accordance with the law.
In the meantime, we urge you to support us and our negotiations team and leadership during these difficult times. We look forward to a making a fair deal that will resolve this strike, protect our future and put us all back to work, for the good of the industry and all of its employees.
Signed,
John F. Bowman, Chair
John Auerbach
Neal Baer
Marc Cherry
Bill Condon
Carlton Cuse
Stephen Gaghan
Terry George
David A. Goodman
Carl Gottlieb
Susannah Grant
Carol Mendelsohn
Marc Norman
Shawn Ryan
Melissa Salmons
Robin Schiff
Ed Solomon
The AMPTP predictably poured cold water all over the idea:
Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers spokesman Jesse Hiestand
issued the following today in response to a statement from the WGA negotiating committee:
This is merely the latest indication that the WGA organizers are grasping for
straws and have never had a coherent strategy for engaging in serious
negotiations. The AMPTP may have different companies with different assets in
different businesses, but they are all unified in one common goal — to reach
an agreement with writers that positions everyone in our industry for success
in a rapidly changing marketplace.”
The issue at hand is whether the WGA can exploit the lack of unanimity within the mogul ranks on how to proceed with the AMPTP-WGA contract talks. For one thing, not all their agendas are the same: there are the mostly movie studios, the mostly TV networks, and the studios that own networks, and the networks that own studios. But here is what Big Media consolidation has wrought: Brad Grey, for instance, can’t just do a Paramount-WGA deal because he has to take into account Les Moonves’ opinions even though Viacom and CBS are supposed to be separate companies now. (Trust me, Grey can’t do what Moonves doesn’t want him to do. For instance, Moonves is planning to make movies, but Grey recently let go of his chief TV exec.) Nor can Universal’s Ron Meyer because of NBC. So the handful of CEOs who normally trash-talk one another are now comrades in arms.
I’ve said this before but it’s well worth repeating: In the old days of guild talks, the AMPTP was made up of hundreds of honest-to-god independent producers But they went by the wayside when financial syndication rules were eased. So now there’s no Aaron Spelling or Carsey Werner in the mix at the AMPTP telling Big Media to play nice.
Starting back on December 3rd, WGAW prez Patric Verrone called on the more moderate CEOs to break ranks with AMPTP which he claimed is “allowing bottom-line hard-liners to rule the day.” I’ve heard top WGA’ers privately refer to this as the “Let’s Make A Deal” strategy. But it hadn’t been articulated in public until then. “If any of these companies want to come forward and bargain with us individually, we think we can make a deal,” Verrone told AP while conferring with picketing writers at NBC in Burbank.
I find it that the moguls may not have the strength of character, the commitment to their shareholders, or, let’s face it, the balls of steel necessary to go against The Club. For weeks now, I’ve talked to several CEOs about why they don’t deal individually with the WGA. After all, the car companies have a lot in common, but they still bargain individually with the auto workers. But Hollywood studios and networks are colluding, not competing.
Sony and Paramount are primarily in the movie business. Why not get their films restarted? NBC has been in the cellar ratings-wise. Why not leap-frog other networks and ensure the Golden Globes go off without a hitch? Then there’s ABC: doesn’t it have the most to lose with most of its Nielsen Top 10 series in primetime not to mention the Academy Awards? And do Fox’s rivals really want to cede January to May ratings to Peter Chernin?
Any network that does a deal now could save the Back 9 of scripted shows not to mention pilot season. Any movie exec could finish the 2009 slate and move on to 2010. Makes sense, right?
But when I raise this possibility, the CEO’s answer is an audible shrug, followed by stammering and a simple, “I just can’t.” Time to upset protocol and break ranks.
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.







Hey Common Sense,
Do you really think there was some great deal to be had on December 4th? Get real. Real common sense would tell you that the big boys had no intention of making any deal until at least after the new year. They were just posturing to get us to reveal how low we’d go. Yes, the guild fucked up in revealing our DVD card. But the notion that they missed out on a “great” deal is absurd. When the AMPTP is ready to settle this thing, it will be settled.
The WGA is delusional. If there is anything the Producers understand in a negotiation, it is leverage. Whether the WGA will admit it or not, the producers, through their unity, have the leverage now and for at least the next few months. The last thing they are going to do is give up that leverage. Some people seem to have this vision of a huge schism in ideology between the producers. While they may have slightly different points-of-view, they are not so different as to cause their partnership to collapse on itself.
Keep in mind that these may be separate companies but they are involved in all kinds of partnerships and co-productions. There is no way that they have any interest in separate deals with the WGA. That is where the comparison to the Auto companies falls apart. There is no vehicle jointly produced by Ford and GM, but there ARE many shows produced by one studio for another company, as well as features that are 50/50 co-productions.
The writers should stop dreaming of getting what they “deserve” and instead focus on a few key issues, make the best deal they can, and get back to work. Who doesn’t have a job where they think they are underpaid and undervalued. Welcome to life. Whatever deal they could get with some shrewd negotiating right now won’t be much different from the deal that is available 3-4 months from now. If they want to wait 12-16 months then maybe things would change, but that’s not going to happen.
TV Showrunner said:
“We want two things — a deal on New Media, and to get back to work.”
Good negotiating position. But will you settle for one of those things? If so, Nick Counter would be happy to make a deal with you.
“We want to do everything in our power to move negotiations forward and end this devastating strike.” This is the first honest press release I’ve seen from the WGA — recognizing the devastating effect their strike has had on the rest of us. Clearly this was not written by David Young. Like Nikki said, if the UAW can negotiate with Ford, GM, and Chrysler and not “big auto” then why can’t the WGA?
Gavin Polone’s tireless prognosticating here brings to mind a very important question: what happens to Gavin Polone’s bottom line when the forces majeure start a-thunderin’ down?
mr palone has it exactly correct. the union’s missteps 2 weeks ago brought the amptp together. this offer isn’t going to break them up again. they smell blood in the water and a deal with the pga. they’re on the road to victory and they know it. before union leadership decided it was more important to get animation, reality and the right to sympathy strike, maybe they would have had a chance to divide and conquer. zero chance now.
Sloop John B–
Wouldn’t it show some “backbone,” as you say, if you were to use your real name when you call people names? Everything Common Sense says is defensible and logical. You make a lot of comments about negotiations and the law: what have you negotiated, other than your divorce? If you were correct about the AMPTP not having the right to negotiate for the studios, why hasn’t the guild filed a suit stating that claim? Because they can conduct the negotiations this way. They can’t collude in negotiations with individuals but they can against a union.
Most of what you say is wrong or not thought out or too disjointed to understand. Homevid sales this year will be $23Billion vs. Internet revenue of $775Million. It will be far beyond the term of the current contract being negotiated when the later out weighs the former. The DGA has broken ranks. IATSE was never with them. The American public, for the most part, doesn’t know or care about what is going on with the strike.
But, I guess, there is no accountability when you are anonymous, huh.
Fly on the WGA wall–
Thanks for your interest in my finances. The answer is: nothing will happen to my bottom line when the “forces majeure start a-thunderin’ down”.
wtf said:
“I would only argue that the strongest moment for us was the day before we went on strike.”
And even then, the AMPTP wouldn’t give up shit even in exchange for tabling the DVD demand. So it was strike or nothing. True, the WGA doesn’t get stronger the longer the strike goes on — but the AMPTP sure as hell gets weaker because their supply of product is dwindling. The UAW strikes, and after a while Ford has no cars to ship out. Same thing here. The only difference is that Ford wouldn’t be dumb enough to go to their shareholders and say stuff like, “Y’know, this whole ‘selling cars’ thing isn’t really that important to our bottom line. We’re gonna be okay, seriously.”
Sloop John B -
What you call defeatism I call realism. The DVD issue, or the concession thereof, was indeed our strongest card, because it impacted the studios in the one place we were capable of making them feel it: their bottom line.
The fact that it achieved us zilch has nothing to do with the value of DVDs as a negotiating tool and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that our negotiators bungled it, pure and simple.
Here’s where we agree: the only way forward is to be proactive.
I say the best way to do that is to jettison the issues that for various reasons are absolute losers for us, and make the best deal we can on the one issue that truly matters for us and future generations of writers: new media. You apparently, feel the best way to do this is to follow the failed strategies of the very people who, however well-intentioned they are, got us into this mess in the first place.
I can almost here GWB saying “Stay the course” when I read your post.
So let me get this straight. Instead of spending the next four weeks negotiating a deal that will allow us to support our families, we will spend the next four months delivering pencils, filing NLRB complaints whose chances of success are marginal (at best), and trying to get Les Moonves (Les Fucking Moonves!) to cut a side-deal with the writers?
Yeah, that sounds like a winner….
Common Sense, you’re aware you’re not making any, correct?
You rightly point out that we stupidly gave up DVDs in exchange for nothing but lies and empty promises, so your solution is to surrender everything else in hopes that the AMPTP, out of the goodness of its heart, will actually make a deal on new media, which they’ve given no concrete indication they’re prepared to do. Without any guarantee and without any leverage. Well, okay then. I feel confident that after we unilaterally surrender the second time, they won’t just say ha ha suckers and walk out of negotiations for a third time.
My prediction: Disney/ABC cuts rank and makes a deal first.
Reasons:
1) The image of Disney in the public eye. Disney relies on the family friendly image to sell not just entertainment but all related merchandising. If the WGA really wants to make them hurt, start depicting Mickey as a union-buster.
2) Primacy of the ABC lineup retained. Can be only network to have new current programming.
4) Disney can afford the long view– they have perfected the art of releasing/rereleasing/repurposing content (It’s a movie! It’s a Broadway play! It’s “on ice”! It’s a theme park ride! It’s… you get the picture.) They may lose money in the short term but they’ll be making money off a writer’s product long after that writer’s kids are grown, have kids of their own, die and are buried.
Of course, this could all be wishful thinking… but ironically, wasn’t it Disney who taught me that a wish is a dream your heart makes?
Wow, the AMPTP astroturfers are out in force tonight.
I smell fear.
“Common Sense” and his followers (or possibly just Common Sense, congratulating himself under another name) say the strike’s already over. Writers should just give up all demands and all other attempts to negotiate. “We need a deal on New Media, and to go back to work!”
Because giving up all your demands and rolling over is certainly the best way to negotiate a “decent” deal on New Media. This doesn’t even make sense — either common, or any other kind. *There has been no deal on New Media.* Not even close. $250 a year? Keep it — zero would be less insulting.
“Give up everything! Don’t bargain, just beg! That’s the best way to get the AMPTP to make a decent deal… not that I’m an AMPTP shill or anything.”
Yeah. Glad we’re clear on that.
I’ve been having this sense that the CEO’s “Just cant” break from the AMPTP because of other sorts of “collusion” between the big companies. I don’t want to make accusations that are not based on any facts, but I could imagine…
I’m getting very weary of the shills that are on here, mostly because of the lame writing.
I don’t believe that anyone who has reached the rank of a showrunner in television would, on their drunkest day, type the following:
“Hear, hear!”
The cliche is, of course, “Here, here!”
Any showrunner, as well as your average high school grauduate, would know that.
Dearest AMPTP, please, for the love of God, get someone literate to pretend to be disgruntled showrunners.
Divide and conquer WILL work, Gavin.
Just add a carrot. Offer the first company to agree with all our demands the chance to have a six-month window ahead of any other studio. We just won’t agree to anything at all except all our bargaining points, plus one percent per month with any other studio or network for a guaranteed six months.
That will be such a juicy bone, one of the studions will fold. And when they do, one or two others will to.
The “fuck you” attitude they have with each other any other day of the woeek will return.
We have to throw in som meat and let them tear it – and each other – apart.
This is my dream.
The AMPTP comes back to the table…and the WGA doesn’t. Instead of striking and picketing, we start writing like crazy for new media and independents. We just walk away from the big studios. Itll be scary for a while…but exciting, too. We’ll be writing things we’re passionate about without their big studio “How do they know each other” notes. Plus, we’ll be able to hire actors who aren’t on the “A-list,” but are brilliant at what they do.
As for TV, let them hire non-union writers. Maybe some real Scranton paper company workers could take over “The Office.” And while they’re struggling to learn about story structure, the real “office” writers can launch “The Cubicle” online. With network numbers dropping and web numbers rising, it won’t take long for the two to hit parity.
This is my dream.
Gavin, I will say (if no one else will) that your analysis and predictions have been pretty spot on. The people who call you names just don’t want to hear the truth.
Gavin, you’re an idiot. WGA is gaining some real leverage. GE CEO Jeff Immelt (who is not all puffed up) has ALREADY reported to shareholders that the strike is hitting home.
Check out this direct quote from Media Daily News:
On December 12, General Electric CEO Jeff Immelt told investors on Tuesday that he is cutting profit projections for NBCU for the fourth quarter, citing the “impact of the strike.”
THIS IS BIG NEWS AND GOES AGAINST THE AMPTP PARTY LINE.
Gavin,
My real name isn’t important… yours, on the other hand, is. I am not going on FOX News preaching Goebbels-inspired propaganda to the masses and undermining the writer’s cause. You are.
Remember, the only contracts that we know that you have ever negotiated (besides abandoning your writers in favor of the studio/network interests time and time again… what you called “killing for them”) are the lawsuits that arose from your debacle at UTA. Thanks for filling the public record with sleazy tales of reckless drug and alcohol use, prostitution, masturbation, sexual harassment and expense-account fraud. That, and you probably have had to do some negotiating every time you visit your local Ferrari dealer.
I think it can be successfully argued that the biggest success you had in this business were on the backs of the brilliant WRITERS David Koepp, Andrew Kevin Walker and Larry David. Personally, I don’t see how you could turn your backs on them now.
For the record, I’m not the first that has cited the AMPTP as a potential collusion problem. The corporatization of Hollywood (as well as America) is a severe worry to many… by negotiating as one entity, the studios are dangerously close to becoming a monopoly.
So, home video sales this year will be $23 Billion vs. Internet revenue of $775 Million. I thought that the AMPTP claimed that it was too early and near impossible to get a clear idea of the potential revenue that new media/internet may bring its coffers. Yet, you seem to have it all figured out already.
Have you not noticed that DVD prices have plummeted? Visit any department store and check out all the new titles in the bargain bin. Go to any local electronics store and take a gander at the new line of LCD and Plasma televisions. Nearly all of them are compatible with your home computer and can be readily be used as a monitor. Why? Because five years from now, the family television will have been replaced by the computer. All movies will be downloaded instead of rented or store bought. Television will be the same.
Also, the DGA is no friend to the AMPTP. They appear to be patiently waiting on the sidelines, measuring the eventual outcome of the current WGA conflict. To use my own war analogy, they’re like the British and Americans in WWII. Allies to the Soviets for sure, but wise enough to let the Russians shoulder most of the fighting in Europe and weigh the eventual outcome before invading the Nazis at Normandy. I thought this analogy would have a bit more merit for you, since you obviously believe that the WGA has been infiltrated by the communists.
The more time that elapses without their favorite television shows, the more the American public will care. (Or tune out altogether.) The longer this strike is prolonged, the more America will rally behind the WGA. Letterman, like Carson in the 80′s, will denounce the AMPTP nightly and inform his viewers about what’s really going on and what is truly at stake here.
Regardless, thanks for continually to offer up your own skewed opinion.
- Sloop John B
Quick General Comments…
I truly believe that the DVD concession was absolutely the right move at that time. It was a major concession that not only showed we were willing to negotiate, but it also highlighted the fact that this strike could easily have been avoided with a little effort on the opposing side and signalled the WGA understanding that fighting a 20 year old fight is waste of time, particularly when the express train of new media promises to completely change the way we do business in Hollywood…
The AMPTP unwillingness to even DISCUSS New Media in a realistic manner (shown by their ridiculous offer and their bi-weekly “storming away from the tables” and then blaming the writers) shows that they think they’re in a knife fight that they intend to win. Their inability to break our ranks, win popular support and their inability salvage their TV seasons, shows that they have no idea how to do it…
Giving up reality tv and animation does nothing to jump start negotiations because it in no way alters their key concern. In the end, they’ll just find another issue, which again won’t be “new media”, that they’ll demand we take off the table before they’ll be willing to talk. This is just a stalling tactic to get our negotiators to take as many of their bargining chips off the table before substantative talks can begin so that we’ll be forced to take the worst deal possible.
As far as I’m concerned everything else; the NLRB complaint, attempting to negotiate with individual entities and not the AMPTP, AMPTP press releases that all but call our negotiators Bolsheviks, etc, are merely Kabuki theatre to gain support of the public while the real business at hand is being dealt with…
If mistakes have been made by our side, well nobody has ever done this before and by that I mean, I’m pretty sure nobody has ever attempted to get something from 6 multi-national media conglomerates that they don’t want to give (cause on the one hand you have corporations not willing to give anything, and on the other you have studio heads that are used to writers giving in on EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME). This may take a while, so settle in and get used to lots and lots of PR moves that highlight the WGA willing to negotiate, while the AMPTP tosses back smokescreen after to smokescreen to justify their Draconian negotiating tactics.
We’ve slowed production, kept our alliance with SAG, and influenced the actions of the DGA… The only thing keep us from getting the deal we deserve is the division amongst the ranks.
That said…
You got a question, think the negotiating committee is making mistakes; go ask them why they’re doing what they’re doing. I’ve been on the line everyday for six weeks and have found they’re really easy to find and easier to talk to…
Meanwhile, keep your eye on the ball. EVERYTHING that you read, every PR move, every threat, every insult tossed, every table bang is ABOUT NEW MEDIA regardless of what the headline reads. They want to give us nothing, and we want, essentially, what we’ve been getting as residuals for the past 40 years, and what we gave up ALL OUR COPYRIGHTS for. Its not even something new or groundbreaking…
Could be a long fight, could be a short fight; but in the end, it IS a fight. Punches will be thrown, hits will be taken, and in the end someone is going down.
They’ve got deep pockets and we’ve got our strike lines, public opinion, the potential SAG strike in July over exactly the same issue, and a DGA that’s withheld stabbing us in the back for a WHOLE TWO INCREDIBLE MONTHS (I bet the AMPTP didn’t expect that). So let’s see…
Wow, what happened here.
Suddenly this board is full of “I’m with you WGA, but you’re fucked because of A) your leadership sucks and needs to be replaced, and b) you should have never gone on strike.”
Call me conspiratorial minded, but this sudden influx of similar – and very pro AMPTP agenda – views is a bit suspicious.
Is any writer really going to work for/with Gavin Palone again?
Only in Hollywood could sleeze balls like this manage to do so well for themselves.
Hollywood isn’t a cup of milk, it’s a cup of pond water… and scum, not cream, rises to the top.
Wow, this is becoming exactly what the companies were hoping for. A few dissenting voices in the ranks riling up both sides. If I’m not mistaken, this is what happened in ’88. A few voices said “it’s not worth it” and now they get the same lousy residual. Was that a part of the plan?
I hope not. I see nothing wrong with wanting reality and animation. The Freemantle rally showed that reality wants in. But then it maybe a little hard to understand why a person WOULD WANT overtime or health benefits.
It doesn’t seem like that is a sticking point. The fact that AMPTP now calls the WGA organizer instead of negotiators and greedy instead of employees watching costs go down and revenue go up from their work.
It’s not the WGA’s fault that companies make first dollar deals and waste money on development hell and then even more on an antiquated distribution system. It’s like they don’t understand what entertainment of the masses is and refuse to take cues from people who spend their whole day contemplating McKee and Hitchcock or Seger and Scorsese.
As a member of the American Screenwriter’s Association who is working hard to get in the WGA, I have to back the negotiating committee as they have as much to lose as the OTHER WRITERS. The negotiating committee IS made up of writers.
I also hope that the strike comes to an end soon, but that seems to be up to Counter.
Yo Nick,
It’s going to be a long long long long long wait to have the sort of product shortage you suggest… Seriously, a year or so if you think about it. We somehow think the television audience won’t watch game shows and reality shows. American Idol gets more audience each week than the super bowl gets. Television will turn into a 24/7 talent show. Theatrical releases will be spread out to fill the calendar year– and many will continue to shoot for the next year or so. This waiting game is stupid. What you miss (and maybe don’t remember from ’88) is that the waiting game also makes US desperate– most of us who aren’t at the top of the hyphenated food chain. While you say the studios will suffer, the studio bosses know full well WE will.