WGAW President Patric M. Verrone and WGAE President Michael Winship today issued the following message regarding the AMPTP-WGA negotiations which appear to be breaking down. (For background, see my previous, Talks Day #7: AMPTP “Stalling Tactics”; Are The Moguls About To Quit The Talks?) The AMPTP immediately followed with a statement of its own (see below). Who’s telling the truth? I think from these dueling statements the answer is clear:
Dear Fellow Members,
Before we head into negotiations this morning, we want to give you an update on where we stand. On Tuesday, after the companies had requested a four-day break so they could work on their proposals, we returned to the bargaining table. We presented a counter proposal to their streaming proposal of November 29. They presented no new proposals. On Wednesday, the AMPTP again had no new proposals, but they did have detailed questions about our streaming counter proposal and other aspects of our overall proposals – and from the give and take of those discussions, we felt that they might finally be ready to engage in serious bargaining. They told us they would have new proposals for us Thursday. On Thursday, we met at 10am, and they told us their new proposals would be ready shortly. At 5 PM, they told us their proposals still weren’t ready, that they would be working on them late into the night, and that we should come back this morning at 10am. The fact that we saw everyone from the AMPTP leave the building by 6:45pm is not a promising sign, but we will be at the table at 10 AM this morning, ready to receive their new proposal.We’d like to address some of the disturbing rumors and back channel communications we’ve been hearing. For one, we’ve heard that one or more of the companies are prepared to throw away the spring and fall TV season, plus features, and prolong the strike. Aside from the devastating effect this would have on the unions, workers, and their families in this industry, it would certainly explain the AMPTP’s refusal to put any new proposals, even a bad one, on the table. Also, highly placed executives have been telling some of our writers that the companies are preparing to abruptly cut off negotiations. They say the companies plan to accuse the WGA of stalling and being unwilling to negotiate, and that the companies will use that as an excuse to walk out.
The Writers Guilds of America, West and East are going on record now that any such claims are absolutely untrue. We have been at the negotiating table every day, willing to bargain. Furthermore, we hereby challenge the AMPTP to negotiate in good faith, day and night, through the Christmas and New Year’s holidays – whatever is necessary – to get this done and get the town back to work. The Writers Guilds will remain at the table every day, for as long as it takes, to make a fair deal.
Thank you for your patience, support, and solidarity through these difficult times. Please come to the Freemantle rally today. We remain all in this together.
Patric M. Verrone
Writers Guild of America, West
&
Michael Winship
President
Writers Guild of America, East
And here is the AMPTP statement answering it:
The WGA’s organizers sent a letter to WGA members today that contains a series of factual mistakes.
WGA Organizer Statement
“[T]he companies had requested a four-day break so they could work on their proposals.”
The Facts
On Nov. 29, the WGA’s organizers requested the four-day break after the producers presented their proposed New Economic Partnership.
WGA Organizer Statement
The producers “told us they would have new proposals.”
The Facts
The producers did present a new proposal, the New Economic Partnership, which would increase the average working writer’s salary to more than $230,000 a year. The WGA’s organizers have yet to respond directly to that proposal, preferring instead to focus on jurisdictional issues in the areas of reality and animation television.
WGA Organizer Statement
“We have been at the negotiating table every day, willing to bargain.”
The Facts
The WGA’s organizers actually spend relatively little time at the negotiating table. The WGA’s organizers sought a four-day break, and when they returned sessions that were supposed to begin at 10:00 am often did not start until after lunchtime. When they are at the negotiating site, WGA organizers typically spend as much time speaking among themselves as they do at the negotiating table.
WGA Organizer Statement
“We will remain at the table every day, for as long as it takes, to make a fair deal.”
The Facts
The WGA’s organizers refused repeated requests by the producers to begin negotiations much earlier, in the spring of 2007. Had negotiations begun when the producers wanted them to start, perhaps the industry would not now be in the midst of this strike.
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Amateurs.
Patrick
You wanted this strike.
Nothing was going to stop you from getting it.
33 days? Call me after day 150.
People haven’t even started to get as hurt as they will get.
And when it is all done Patrick you’ll accept any deal they offer.
That’s how you roll.
Well said…
Let’s stick it out. Hell or highwater, every day between now and Christmas. We elected this slate on the understanding that they’d be willing to “go to the mat.” I applaud their willingness to do so. Even if the AMPTP walks out and spends their holidays down in Palm Springs, drinking baby’s blood or whatever it is they do, I and a lot of writers would be glad to see our guild negotiators heading to the table every day and waiting there with their bag lunches and laptops.
How can this go on this long? The AMPTP should understand that what they’re offering essentially means the end of our lives as writers as we know them. We don’t really have the option of giving in.
It begins here. I think it’s up to the corporations to decide where it ends. If so many of my friends weren’t suffering, this would be fascinating. But it’s not, it’s just sad. How far back in time do they want to push us? Past health care? Past a living wage? The limitless depths of greed continue to amaze me. And IA brothers, before you comment, remember, if we lose this, you’re healthcare will most likely get cut in half, as your own residuals will disappear. So you can call us spoiled millionaires…but only if you’re single and really, really healthy.
PS, everyone should visit the United Hollywood link to Bill Moyers show so they can send letters about media consolidation!
thanks!
Well, it’s not exactly “progress is being made!”, but I’ll take it. Keep at it, WGA.
I personally believe that all the rumors and side speculation is only hurting talks. Each side is trying to make themselves look bigger and better than the other in the publics eyes. I sincerely wish that both sides would just shut up completely and lock themselves in a room till this situation is rectified. This b.s. back and forth has gone on far too long now. My best wishes to all the crew members who will not be able to provide their families with the christmas they deserve because of this situation.
The gauntlet has been thrown down. Will the AMPTP accept the challenge or get bogged down in back and forth mudslinging bullshit that makes these negotiations feel more and more like kids bitching on the playground, when there are real issues to be resolved.
This doesn’t sound too good. My prayers go out to those currently out of work, or soon to be out of work.
Good Lord. Why doesn’t the WGA pull all the picket lines off the studios (that are basically shut down now,) and put 4000 picketers in front and all around the AMPTP building in Encino? And put in a 24/7 line around it?
Any one else bored with the AMPTP already?
And these guys are supposed to be some sort of Big Media industry kings? The longer this drags out, the more clueless and out of touch the AMPTP appears.
AMPTP: there’s this great thing called google.com
It’s a search engine. Any one with internet access can use google including below the line crew as well as the general public. Simply type in words and you’ll get lists of web sites that have information related to the search query. Try typing “new media”+advertising+revenue and see what you find because no one is buying your bullsh*t.
Negotiate already so we can all go back to work.
This is a smart move. One of the first times the WGA is actually out in front of things, PR-wise. Well done, gents.
Fuck the AMPTP. We’ll stay out as long as it takes to get a fair deal. This is for our future, and for the very survival of a writers guild at all. So let the AMPTP spin, and pose, and stall. Their tactics are irrelevant. They have miscalculated; we will wait them out.
Totally reads like a “We’re doing the best we can but we can’t understand what the hell the AMPTP’s agenda is” kind of letter…
Maybe this is a good time for the show runners to pack it up and go back home and not give them more finished product.
I think the WGA was very smart to do this. The AMPTP simply can’t walk away from the table now without looking bad to the press (yes, even Variety) and further uniting the writers.
If they walk away now, I’d think even the DGA would have to take notice of such tactics and align with the writers and hopefully flat-out refuse to start negotiations.
If this forces the AMPTP to abort their “walk out” plan and stay at the bargaining table, it would stop them from trying to negotiate with the DGA at the same time.
Kind of brilliant.
Notice how they dismissed the rumors of studio malfeasance by insisting “we have been at the negotiating table everyday, willing to bargain.” By “we,” I’m assuming they’re referring to the WGA. That doesn’t mean the AMPTP has the same objective. Methinks Messrs. Verrone and Winship are being played like a Stradivarius.
As someone wisely posted a few weeks ago, they’re organizing this strike the way they’d write a strike for a movie. Lots of rhyming chants, dogs with signs, and idealism right out of MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON. Nice, but the AMPTP doesn’t work off the same script (it probably uses Machiavelli’s ‘The Prince’). More than anything, the moguls want to break this strike just to assuage their own egos.
It’s time to follow what more musicians are starting to do: record their own music, distribute it themselves, keep all the profits and say f*** you to the record companies (who are just as bad as the studios). The technology and outlet is there. All it takes is incentive.
The AMPTP just issued a disclaimer on their web site, disputing much of the WGA email.
Here’s a thought: How about, instead of a third-party negotiator, they get a marriage counselor? This way, maybe they’d both stop acting like children and return to the tables.
“The whole of everything is never told.” — Henry James
Who knows what’s really going on amid all this theater? Whatever the case, it’s certainly not rationality on the part of both sides. I for one am disgusted. And I’m tired of even reading this blog — the drama of it all. Someone, please, wake me when the credits roll . . .
That’s the beauty of the internet — the AMPTP can’t lie. The truth comes out, instantly, for all the world to see.
No high-end, dirty tactics PR firm can stop the truth — the WRITERS are RIGHT. Their offer is FAIR. Everyone knows it. I’ll sell everything I own and move in with the in-laws before giving in.
GO WGA!
Could you be any more pathetic, AMPTP? Well, despite their lies, keep talking. And if negotiations fall apart, take action in some other way. This proves they have nothing to stand on, and when they leave themselves out in the cold, take the advantage and run with it. One way or another, this strike doesn’t have to last as long as they’d like to drag it out to be. If it takes action, go for it. The AMPTP is blowing it’s image by the moment, and if we push, they’ll crumble under the wheight of their own lies.
“The WGA’s organizers refused repeated requests by the producers to begin negotiations much earlier, in the spring of 2007. Had negotiations begun when the producers wanted them to start, perhaps the industry would not now be in the midst of this strike.”
Riiiiight. I guess that’s why, after the first negotiating session in July 2007, the AMPTP didn’t bother returning to the table until late September.
This is where the clout of the tenpercenters, the Big Guns could really come to play. Bring them to the table. Close the damn doors and get it done without these childish conflicting “facts” being casually tossed out the door into the wind.
Would the Big Guns add to the confusion? Too many players and more verbal parsing?
Or could they provide firm hands pushing both sides to a realistic goal-driven agreement?
Let’s play an improved version of “24″ but in real time and see what happens. Adults could get it done.
pb
Wow.
The WGA reveals rumors that the AMPTP is planning to accuse them of stalling…and voila…the AMPTP comes out with a statement accusing them of stalling!
Shameless.
How would a Spring started have changed anything? The AMPTP would have what, pulled the residual ‘study’ proposal off the table earlier than the Thurs. before the strike? Submitted the New! Economic! Partnership! (tm allrightsreserved, voidwhereprohibited) when? Halloween? Labor Day?
It’s one thing to be tough, intransigent negotiators who think they can outlast the writers, but it’s another to just say stupid stuff for the heck of it.
Oh well. Not like it’s a big change.
So, here’s what all us writer’s and FOW (friends of writers) must do – hit this in Washington. Call Boxer, Feinstein etc. and get some media consolidation hearings going. That’s about the only thing that will end this with any haste.
And what the hell is this…
“We will remain at the table every day, for as long as it takes, to make a fair deal.”
The Facts
The WGA’s organizers refused repeated requests by the producers to begin negotiations much earlier, in the spring of 2007. Had negotiations begun when the producers wanted them to start, perhaps the industry would not now be in the midst of this strike.
Huh?
The WGA is talking in the here and now, whilst the AMPTP brings up issues that occured half a year ago.
It’s pretty obvious who wants to make earnest progress and who is stalling here…
-they’re organizing this strike the way they’d write a strike for a movie. Lots of rhyming chants, dogs with signs, and idealism right out of MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON. Nice, but the AMPTP doesn’t work off the same script (it probably uses Machiavelli’s ‘The Prince’). More than anything, the moguls want to break this strike just to assuage their own egos.
I think that the WGA should start going after the shareholders of the companies that have the most to lose from the strike. Point them to the rumors of the Studios’ willingness to “write off” the Spring and Fall seasons. Hurting their wallets is much more effective than threatening pointless legal action. After all, that is their tactic visa vis the writers. You guys should be doing everything you can in order to do the same to them.
Writers should look elsewhere…
What do the networks and studios provide except capital and distribution? Anyone whose produced independent film understands this.
The markets are awash with capital.
Between cable and internet, distribution is less of a problem than ever before.
Screw the AMPTP. Let’s invite capital and wash ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox and Disney out of the system.
It’s time we got serious. And looked elsewhere for our answers.
This is a chance to rewrite the system.