WGAW President Patric M. Verrone and WGAE President Michael Winship today issued the following message regarding the AMPTP-WGA negotiations which appear to be breaking down. (For background, see my previous, Talks Day #7: AMPTP “Stalling Tactics”; Are The Moguls About To Quit The Talks?) The AMPTP immediately followed with a statement of its own (see below). Who’s telling the truth? I think from these dueling statements the answer is clear:
Dear Fellow Members,
Before we head into negotiations this morning, we want to give you an update on where we stand. On Tuesday, after the companies had requested a four-day break so they could work on their proposals, we returned to the bargaining table. We presented a counter proposal to their streaming proposal of November 29. They presented no new proposals. On Wednesday, the AMPTP again had no new proposals, but they did have detailed questions about our streaming counter proposal and other aspects of our overall proposals – and from the give and take of those discussions, we felt that they might finally be ready to engage in serious bargaining. They told us they would have new proposals for us Thursday. On Thursday, we met at 10am, and they told us their new proposals would be ready shortly. At 5 PM, they told us their proposals still weren’t ready, that they would be working on them late into the night, and that we should come back this morning at 10am. The fact that we saw everyone from the AMPTP leave the building by 6:45pm is not a promising sign, but we will be at the table at 10 AM this morning, ready to receive their new proposal.We’d like to address some of the disturbing rumors and back channel communications we’ve been hearing. For one, we’ve heard that one or more of the companies are prepared to throw away the spring and fall TV season, plus features, and prolong the strike. Aside from the devastating effect this would have on the unions, workers, and their families in this industry, it would certainly explain the AMPTP’s refusal to put any new proposals, even a bad one, on the table. Also, highly placed executives have been telling some of our writers that the companies are preparing to abruptly cut off negotiations. They say the companies plan to accuse the WGA of stalling and being unwilling to negotiate, and that the companies will use that as an excuse to walk out.
The Writers Guilds of America, West and East are going on record now that any such claims are absolutely untrue. We have been at the negotiating table every day, willing to bargain. Furthermore, we hereby challenge the AMPTP to negotiate in good faith, day and night, through the Christmas and New Year’s holidays – whatever is necessary – to get this done and get the town back to work. The Writers Guilds will remain at the table every day, for as long as it takes, to make a fair deal.
Thank you for your patience, support, and solidarity through these difficult times. Please come to the Freemantle rally today. We remain all in this together.
Patric M. Verrone
Writers Guild of America, West
&
Michael Winship
President
Writers Guild of America, East
And here is the AMPTP statement answering it:
The WGA’s organizers sent a letter to WGA members today that contains a series of factual mistakes.
WGA Organizer Statement
“[T]he companies had requested a four-day break so they could work on their proposals.”
The Facts
On Nov. 29, the WGA’s organizers requested the four-day break after the producers presented their proposed New Economic Partnership.
WGA Organizer Statement
The producers “told us they would have new proposals.”
The Facts
The producers did present a new proposal, the New Economic Partnership, which would increase the average working writer’s salary to more than $230,000 a year. The WGA’s organizers have yet to respond directly to that proposal, preferring instead to focus on jurisdictional issues in the areas of reality and animation television.
WGA Organizer Statement
“We have been at the negotiating table every day, willing to bargain.”
The Facts
The WGA’s organizers actually spend relatively little time at the negotiating table. The WGA’s organizers sought a four-day break, and when they returned sessions that were supposed to begin at 10:00 am often did not start until after lunchtime. When they are at the negotiating site, WGA organizers typically spend as much time speaking among themselves as they do at the negotiating table.
WGA Organizer Statement
“We will remain at the table every day, for as long as it takes, to make a fair deal.”
The Facts
The WGA’s organizers refused repeated requests by the producers to begin negotiations much earlier, in the spring of 2007. Had negotiations begun when the producers wanted them to start, perhaps the industry would not now be in the midst of this strike.
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.







This:
“The WGA’s organizers refused repeated requests by the producers to begin negotiations much earlier, in the spring of 2007.”
Is not a refutation of this:
“We will remain at the table every day, for as long as it takes, to make a fair deal.”
The WGA is prepared to talk now, which is all that matters. And you can’t possibly tell me that the AMPTP wanted to avoid this. They had plenty of time to bring an offer forward, all the way up to the moment the strike began.
And notice that they don’t refute any of the important claims, like that they kept the WGA waiting around all day, told them they’d have an offer that night, and then snuck out the back door. That is lame.
Maybe they should hire their 7th PR firm to correct the mistakes of #s 1-6. Getting all bitchy about specific details of he press statement only highlights that they aren’t actually bringing anything to the table.
“The AMPTP is blowing it’s image by the moment, and if we push, they’ll crumble under the wheight of their own lies.”
The problem is that the AMPTP doesn’t give a rat’s ass about their image. Their only concern is to execute the agenda the companies dicate to them. And they are more concerned with profit than with image. Gasp.
Hey, I just learned the details of the new proposal that the AMPTP offered yesterday and it will definitely ease the pain. The New Economic Partnership will now come with lube.
Sounds like we’re going to need to make sure there’s plenty of rulers near the negotiating table for the dick measuring contest today.
How many media moguls/producers/studio execs are in the room? None. The AMPTP are all LAWYERS, they are not producers of anything.
This is a bunch of extremely high paid “labor lawyers” (meaning ANTI-worker) who have no authority to say yes to anything.
The writers are representing actual working people and fighting for all Hollywood unions who’s future security is at risk.
I don’t care if you are WGA or AMPTP-just get it worked out, and get it worked out now. GET BACK TO WORK SO WE CAN ALL GET BACK TO WORK. My business is about to go under because there are no productions. Do I blame producers? Yes. Do I blame the writers? Yes. GET BACK TO WORK, PLEASE!!!! I don’t want to have to close my business down.
Wow. The WGA negotiators are now “organizers.” Showrunners like Neal Baer and Carol Mendelsohn and Marc Cherry are now organizers. Screenwriters like Ed Solomon and Stephen Gaghan and Marc Norman are now organizers.
I guess that’s what paying $200,000 for PR gets you. What did the focus group not like the term “WGA death-bringers”?
Pathetic. Do they really think we’re gonna believe them ?
Writers have absolutely no interrest by making the strike last for such a long time, so why the hell would they ?
Shame on you, “I Am pitty”….
Apparently, the AMPTP assumes that the media and the public are utterly incapable of discerning the underlying motivations in these press releases. (I assume they know that writers are adept at such an exercise, but it’s not writers they are attempting to sway here.)
Just for fun, let’s uncover a few possible motivations. Or, to put it in simpler terms (in case any members of the non-Finke press read this), who would have reason to lie?
Perhaps one could argue that a motivation for Patrick Verrone to twist the facts would be that he actually enjoys the spotlight and doesn’t want the strike to end anytime soon. Yet in order for this argument to hold any water, one would have to also buy that the entire negotiating committee is complicit in this deception. In other words, show runners and high paid feature writers are willing to continue hemorrhaging money and risking their very careers in order to allow Verrone to prolong “his” strike. Seem the least bit logical? I don’t think so.
Now let’s consider the motivations of the AMPTP. Why would they want to lie here? Hmmm, that’s a tough one, isn’t it. Might it have something to do with certain moguls openly bragging that the strike is going to SAVE them money? Assuming they even partially believe what they are telling their investors and stockholders, I think their motivation is so evident that even a Variety reporter might be able to spot it (or so we can dream).
So, yes, it does seem glaringly evident who is lying here, Nikki. But I wonder how long it will take the non-Finke media to catch on to this?
“The Facts
The WGA’s organizers actually spend relatively little time at the negotiating table. The WGA’s organizers sought a four-day break, and when they returned sessions that were supposed to begin at 10:00 am often did not start until after lunchtime. When they are at the negotiating site, WGA organizers typically spend as much time speaking among themselves as they do at the negotiating table.”
Wow, really? The AMPTP’s rebuttal is that the WGA organizers don’t start earlier enough and they talk to each other too much when they’re sititng at the table? It’s this a multi-billion dollar negotiation or a third grade classroom?
Gentlemen of the AMPTP, if this is the work of your new, high-powered PR firms, bravo. To them. They just took you to the fucking cleaners. No wonder you all get paid $20 million a year. You’re all clearly worth every fucking penny. What a bunch of fucking tools…
Wow. That AMPTP statement. Wow. It’s almost Clintonian in its obfuscation:
WGA Organizer Statement
The sky is blue.
The Facts
What is generally referred to as “the sky” is actually atmosphere and therefore, by definition, is colorless. Oh, and David Young eats children.
Sincerely,
The AMPTP
What? That doesn’t even make any sense.
On Thursday, December 5th, the AMPTP issued this public end-of-day statement: “We will spend the evening studying what the WGA had to say today, and we look forward to returning to the bargaining table tomorrow.”
So clearly, the WGA had responded to their proposal.
Today is the 7th. So, did they submit a new proposal yesterday? Um. No, they didn’t.
So, how are they claiming that they are waiting on the WGA? Do they really think people are that stupid?
No one believes the AMPTP.
Also, the WGA letters are detailed and specific. Truth.
AMPTP makes vague generic accusations. They’re so smug that they can obsfuscate and confuse the public. Lies.
It’s good to know the spin doctors the parties hired are hard at work. Maybe they will set an example for the negotiating teams.
The next official statements will start with the phrase “I’m rubber, you’re glue…”
It’s time we got serious. And looked elsewhere for our answers.
This is a chance to rewrite the system.
Why do I get the sense the author of this statement lives with his mother?
Yep… it’s a pissing contest and it looks like the WGA has a stronger stream. Now if it were a “sh*tting” contest the AMPTP would win by a landslide.
Chuck T & Bouncing Castle,
What are you guys going to do when the AMPTP lays you off? I would imagine their new PR people will suggest better ways to waste their money than hoping you two blowhards will destroy the morale of the writers reading this site.
And since writers are such “amateurs,” “fools,” and the host of other disparging names you’ve tagged them with, why don’t you post your real, full names? It’s not like writers can blackball you. C’mon. Have some balls. Stand up and let us know who you really are.
Look at Viacom. When Viacom fired Freston and installed Daumann, they did nothing to improve their product. Instead, Daumann just cut every possible cost. They don’t even offer dental anymore!
And what has happened to Viacom’s stock? It has doubled and is now near its all-time high.
The moguls have seen this and are now following in suit. They are using this strike as a strategy to cut costs. They don’t want a deal anytime soon, as you can see from their behavior.
Sorry, WGA. You better be ready to strike for another year if you want to win this thing…
Something very interesting seems to be brewing behind the scenes and between the cracks for anyone with their ear to the Golden Studio Gates: The “alliance” can’t last. How long will it take before the studios and networks – who are, after all, fierce COMPETITORS – begin to fray at the edges and eventually fall apart? Will Moonves’ ego let him go down as CEO of CBS simply to stand with Fox, WB et all, who have less invested in network dealings than he does? Surely there must be Machiavellian machinations even within this unholy “Alliance,” or this wouldn’t be Hollywood?
Nikki, you’ve hinted at this very concept; any way you can work your inside contacts to get to the heart (no matter how black) of the beast? Other writers commenting here have suggested back-door deals could be struck between the WGA and individual studios. Is this being pursued?
Work their mammoth egos against eachother and their house of cards collapses.
It sounds like the AMPTP are trying their hardest to irritate the WGA into walking away from the table. If the AMPTP walks away, the DGA probably won’t talk. But if the WGA walks, the AMPTP can claim the moral high ground and open a dialog with the DGA.
Don’t budge. Please!
Despite their bravado, the AMPTP are scared. In their worst case scenario, the strike drags out long enough for the WGA, DGA, and SAG to unite. In so doing, the Guilds dictate the terms of the new contracts, the AMPTP companies suffer huge losses, the jackass CEO’s in charge of those companies all get canned, AND the prolonged strike brings the Government’s attention to the alarming monopolies forming in the field of media. New legislation forces them to disassemble some of their “vertically integrated” corporate structure.
They are moving toward their ‘doomsday’ and despite their chest-thumping, they will do anything to avoid it.
“What do the networks and studios provide except capital and distribution?”
The biggest thing besides those two is an existing audience and cross promotion. On a network, you can put a new show in-between two shows that already have an audience, and you’re pretty much guaranteed some people watching. TV is a habit, people tend to be lazy and intert, and often people surf between the five major networks and settle on the best of whatever’s on. Plus, the nets constantly advertise their shows during their other shows.
Capital and distribution probably aren’t yet enough to bring in a respectable audience for online content. It will happen at some point, but it will either take a long time and a gradual erosion of broadcast TV, or a major production with big name talent and major MAJOR promotion behind it (and at this point, I’d be skeptical that even that would make much of a splash).
“The problem is that the AMPTP doesn’t give a rat’s ass about their image.”
They do to the degree that bad press makes their stock holders nervous and hurts their stock price. Or at least their bosses in the even bigger corporation that owns their corporation care.
Aren’t the stock prices of most of the parent companies down since the strike started?
There’s 2 ancient proverbs that come to mind they read
“He who upset writer, make dumbest decision in life”
-Artesian Bromwell
“The snake who walks away from negotiating with the mongoose later becomes dinner for the mongoose’s children”
-Bad Bad Leroy Brown
The AMPTP press release indicates precisely how desperately producers need writers.
Whose idea was it to match up singular and plural so haphazardly? Who do I murder for all the dangling modifiers?
(I’m letting it slide for the writers…this time)
The AMPTP’s last, uh, “Facts” also seems poorly conceived. Refuting a present-tense statement in the past tense seems a little like calling to complain about last week’s newspaper.
I’m on strike as a viewer until:
1.) Reality television disappears altogether. If I wanted reality in my television, I’d get a job watching surveillance cameras at the local mall.
2.) Either side elegantly uses grammar to defend their arguments.
3.) Lost comes back on the air. Because let’s face it, I’m addicted.
B.
“Waaah! The writers have been tardy! And they keep whispering to each other! Waaaah!”
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While mommy and daddy continue to fight, the below-the-line kids want the world to know what terrible parents you have become. This Sunday at 9am at Hollywood and Highland, the first below-the-line rally will be held. We want the outside world to see that this isn’t just about studio moguls, writers and actors – it’s about the hundreds of thousands of support staffers you guys (WGA & AMPTP) have put out of work. Don’t lie to us and tell us this was necessary. ABC News writers worked for THREE YEARS on their expired contract before ratifying a new contract this week. Hollywood writers worked for TWO DAYS on their expired contract before striking. Just as none of this was inevitable, a prolonged work stoppage is still avoidable. Be realistic — don’t bring new demands like reality shows into the equation this late in the game. You know that won’t fly! Find a compromise. STRIKE A DEAL! I want to be able to take my kids to Disneyland this Christmas.