“Things are looking very good,” I’m told.
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Nikki, can you possibly clarify if this an AMPTP source…or a WGA source?
There are strategic reasons the AMPTP might want to leak rumors of progress to put pressure on the WGA and get the hopes of the membership up that a fair deal is possible. This is what they did before. “A deal is in place”, remember?
I don’t see any reason why a WGA source would give false hope.
If you can, please let us know which side your source is from.
I hope these negotiations aren’t just a ploy by the AMPTP to get a waiver for the Oscars.
The WGA should hold the cancellation above Oscar like the Sword of Damocles until a solid deal is signed, sealed, and delivered.
We’ll see. Be patient. Avoid rumors. Stay strong.
yipee! Well on that news I’m going back to work!
I appreciate the simple update Nikki. We can find out all the details after it is over, but at least we can have hope for now.
I hope you’re right. My heart wants more info than that but my mind says, no. I’ve always thought optimism is better than pessimism. Worst case scenario is that my hopes are dashed and I lose the house anyway but at least I had that moment of hope. I vote for hope.
“More Sources Say More WGA Progress.”
Are those AMPTP sources, WGA sources, or both?
Maybe the AMPTP has figured out that nobody goes to the movies or watches television to see a list of producer credits. Maybe somebody tipped them that it’s a compelling story and interesting performances that audiences want to see. Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
patience, persistence in pressing the AMPTP, and perseverance.
by whom are you told that? it’s a pretty vague substantiation to a very bold statement.
again??? what does this mean?? more sources?? when do these sources say they expect a deal to be done??
Good to hear
About time everyone started being more reasonable. This strike makes no sense anymore. At all. And those who are paying the price are the poor people who work in crews and need their jobs to maintain their families. With the general economic situation there is, and serious risks of recession, I think people should be a little more responsible and suck it up and find an agreement already.
Nikki, just a suggestion, when you source a quote anonymously, why not (like most major news organizations) at least say which side of the issue the source is from? I’d love to know if the person saying “things are looking very good” is a WGA or AMPTP rep, and I’m sure other readers would as well.
*gasp* Positive news? Quick, hide it before people tear it down!
In the immortal words of George W. Bush:
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee. I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, ‘Fool me once… um… shame on… um… shame on you… If fooled, you can’t get fooled again.’”
Short and sweet. Hope it’s true. Good luck, WGA.
this is good news but i wouldn’t be surprised if the talks break up, yet again.
It has happened before and i wouldnt be surprised, however, i have a theory on what is happening and if the talkS dont end up in a deal….
I TOLD YOU SO!
“In a reminder that SAG’s upcoming negotiations with the majors are likely to be contentious and complicated, SAG president Alan Rosenberg and SAG national exec director Doug Allen have told SAG members that he’s not particularly impressed with the DGA’s tentative deal with the AMPTP.
Rosenberg and Allen echoed previous prounouncements that the DGA deal would not automatically be the model for a new SAG deal. That’s also what
leaders were saying before they launched informal contract talks with moguls a week ago.”
This pretty much echoes what I and other Writers have said from the start here.
That any DGA deal would NOT serve as a precedent or a template for pattern bargaining, it will only serve as a metric for the deal we must negotiate for ourselves.
And we got slammed for saying it…
Well, it hasn’t changed.
Phil Alden Robinson has chimed in as well at UH…
And the SAG letter sent by Alan and Doug to its Members today further details this.
We’ve been told this twice before, and the AMPTP ended up walking out both times at the end. I just hope that it doesn’t end that way this time.
REGARDLESS OF REALITY…the AMPTP is going to spread rumors that the strike is almost over.
DGA is about to vote on their contract!!!
If the WGA strike seems like it’s going to end soon, then the average DGA voter is going to think, “Well, it’s a crappy contract that has no meaningful jurisdiction on the internet and laughable internet residuals…but the strike is gonna end soon so we should just take it because I want to get back to work.”
If the strike does NOT look like it’s going to end soon…then there is less of an incentive for a DGA voter to:
a) vote to accept a crappy contract when they’ll still be out of work anyway
b) sit on the sidelines while the WGA and SAG negotiate are far better contract
So, regardless of reality (and I DO hope it’s a good reality), the AMPTP would spread Strike-Is-Gonna-End-Soon rumors anyway. But, hey, maybe they’re negotiating in good faith. But if they weren’t…we’d never know.
And with their track record…well, I’m not being negative to assume the worst. I’m just being a realist.
WGA, SAG, and the DGA…we are ALL in this together.
Dear Nikki, I love your site and have great respect for your work. Therefore I feel compelled to share with you how painful it is to read “things are looking good.” Who is your source? How can we trust you if you can’t trust us? We don’t know what is really happening. The latest news from SAG is the DGA deal looks bad (see united hollywood today). The WGA has already given up on Animation and Reality – the congloms are pushing us to hurry up for the Oscars. I can tell you the real news: everyone I know on the picket line is in this for the long haul. We haven’t been out there day after day to get swept up in some fantasy win. Please wait till you have hard facts to share.
You have been strangely quiet Nikke. What’s up? Letter to SAG members from Alan Rosenberg and Doug Allen, and blog from Phil Alden Robinson both on UnitedHollywood.com make me think something is up. Come on, you must know more than you’re telling.
We count on you Nikke….
I read the DGA deal on streaming as being 3%, with the $1,200 figure being an example. Why doesn’t SAG ask for the deal points?? Since the networks are including the streaming in the price they sell for show advertising, that is what needs to be changed.
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