UPDATE! PART IV: NBC Rejects WGA’s Investigation Of Jay; SAG Urges Actors To Go On Dave & Craig
PART II: The Writers Guild Of America acknowledges that its meeting with Jay Leno took place on December 31st but has significantly different details from NBC’s account of the confab with the WGA West president and other guild members. (See my previous, PART I: NBC Claims Jay Asked For & Received WGA Permission To Write Monologue At Secret Monday Meeting With Verrone.) “No, Patric Verrone did not say ‘We’re going to look the other way,’ I don’t recall him ever saying anything that could be construed as giving Jay the OK to write a monologue,” the spokesperson designated by the WGA to talk to me because he was at the meeting told me tonight. “NBC is trying to stir things up. I think they want to take the focus off their own refusal to bargain in good faith. And instead of having people aware of the real dispute, which is between NBC and the WGA, they want to put Jay Leno in the middle.”
According to the guild’s version of events, the confab described by NBC wasn’t about Jay’s monologue. The union told me that Jay Leno requested the meeting with WGAW president Patric Verrone in the wake of the WGA making an interim agreement with David Letterman’s Worldwide Pants to bring back The Late Show with his writers. Since NBC owns The Tonight Show, Jay can’t make the same deal so he was coming back without his writers. ”The meeting was about his feeling that he was being mischaracterized as the bad guy for going back and doing the show. He wanted the guild to get the message out that he supported the writers. And we certainly agreed with that,” the insider told me.
Leno attended the meeting accompanied by his striking Tonight Show writers, “I think they came out of loyalty to Jay and hoping to see Jay’s concerns taken seriously by the guild and resolution found,” the source said.
“But it wasn’t until close to the end of the meeting, when we had gotten to the point where Jay understood our position was that we were not trying to make him look like a bad guy, that he said, “OK, I’m going to do the show, and I’m going to do my monologue.’ And what I think Patric said was, ‘You’re taking one for the team. And we understand that.’ ”
When I asked what was meant by “team”, the insider said, “For the guild.” And that was the end of the meeting.
But here’s what I can’t understand. Leno tells the WGA he’s going to do his monologue. And that doesn’t ring a bell for the guild members to ask him HOW he’s doing that monologue?
“In retrospect, it should have been clarified right then and there,” the WGA spokesperson admitted to me. “But the exchange came at the end of a long and difficult meeting and we were wrapping it up and it was one of the last exchanges in the meeting.”
It’s clear that, on Monday, the guild did not repeat the warning about “no monologues” which it had issued the day NBC announced that Leno and Conan O’Brien were going back on air. (See my previous, WGA Reminds Returning Jay And Conan: No Monologues.) But it’s also a he said/he said situation whether or not the guild actually gave Leno a pass on writing his monologue. “I don’t believe I heard Jay saying he was ‘writing’ his monologue. I thought I heard him say he was ‘doing’ his monologue,” the guild insider specified. The source added that he himself thought that Leno was going to ad-lib his signature standup opening and not write it because that would break his writers union’s strike rules.
Today both the WGA and NBC issued dueling statements after I posted here on Deadline Hollywood Daily that Jay admitted last night on the air during his first show back from strike hiatus that he had written his own monologue — an act tantamount to strike-breaking. First, the WGA said publicly that “a discussion took place today between Jay Leno and the Writers Guild to clarify to him that writing for The Tonight Show constitutes a violation of the Guilds’ strike rules.” I was told by the guild that Leno explained to the WGA he thought he was following the WGA rules because of a provision in the Guild’s so-called “Minimum Basic Agreement” that allows for a performer to write for himself. But then the union made “very clear” to him that the pact also clearly states that this provision does not apply to a Guild member who also happens to employed on the show as a writer. (Leno is both a credited writer and producer of the NBC-owned Tonight Show as well as host.)
Then, NBC complained publicly: “The WGA agreement permits Jay Leno to write his own monologue for The Tonight Show. The WGA is not permitted to implement rules that conflict with the terms of the collective bargaining agreement between the studios and the WGA.”
Said the WGA insider, “NBC is wrong. And we have made it clear.”
So tonight Leno performed his monologue again on The Tonight Show. Is the WGA going to investigate how Jay is preparing that standup routine?
What makes the situation so delicate is that the WGA perceives Leno as very supportive of striking writers. He’s been delivering food and drinks to the scribes walking the line for two months now. So the WGA, which has repeatedly made it clear it’s picketing NBC and not Leno, may not want to make an example of a high-profile member like Jay for breaking its strike rules. Earlier today, a WGA spokesman told me: ”We are not interested in a battle here between Jay and the Guild,” and doubted there would be any probe. Now the WGA seems to be backing away from that position. “If our members decide that there’s been a violation of the strike rules, there is a procedure that will be followed,” the WGA insider told me.
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Well, Leno is doing his monologue again.
Well this comes as a big Duh to me.
Anyone familiar with the behavior and character of each side can hardly believe what NBC has claimed.
Tell me, who are you gonna believe, the greedy, lying, cheating companies or the WGA?
Who hired political smear merchants Fabiani and Lehane to launch an attack against Dave Young after THEY walked out? Who is now trying to paint Patrick Verrone as the bad guy to deflect attention from their abhorent behavior? Who in their right mind would believe the WGA leadership would consent to letting Jay break the rules and for whose benefit?
Who do you think are the professional liars in this?
Who walked away from the table twice? Who has been consistently lying to the public?
Who does the public support by 70%?
Who is deperately trying to change that? Isn’t that why you hire scumbags like Lehane, to change public opnion and the political landscape, it’s what they do.
What late night Talkshow cannot survive without a monologue? What Company do you think pressured or suggested Jay do this? What company benefits?
The answers are clear.
Again, Jay knows the rules. Jay is NOT a stand up guy, he is a Company whore. He has been warned, let’s see how he responds.
this is splitting hairs to a ridiculous degree. they should be concentrating on more important things.
who really cares how jay leno creates his monologue? that battle was lost when we got back on the air. use him as a public mouthpiece, don’t alienate him.
this doesn’t really bode well for the future, does it……
WHAT? I am heartsick to learn that we are disputing anything coming from he struck company that employs our biggest supporter ever. I hope we took time out to praise him to the skies and make it clear that NBC is forcing him to not only go along with this lie about the meeting, but also to continue to do a monologue.
This sucks. I will never walk a WGA picket line again. I won’t cross one, but I won’t support the WGA. Why bother? It’s clear they play favorites.
Jay has obviously decided to listen to those attorneys at NBC who are telling him it is legal to perform “his own writing”. (Note quotes.) Based on what the WGA stated (“strike rules reminder”) after the hosts announced they were returning to the air, it is clear to this observer that he and The Tonight Show are thumbing their noses at the WGA at this point.
If the intent of giving the deal to Worldwide Pants was as a strategic move to “encourage” NBC to either push AMPTP to return to the table or to reach a deal of its own, then it is necessary to oppose, in the strongest possible terms, the actions of The Tonight Show and Jay Leno in continuing to perform, by Jay’s own admission (Wednesday show) and clearly to anyone who knows anything about comedy writing (Thursday show), written material.
It now appears that the WGA does not know how to make effective strategic moves and is instead flailing about badly. The actions or lack thereof that the WGA ultimately determines to take in the handling of this Tonight Show issue will show the AMPTP/networks how sharp its how sharp its “teeth” are regarding obvious, admitted violations of strike rules. They will be watching this one closely. They may have even had a hand in provoking it just for this purpose. If the WGA doesn’t handle this issue properly, the strike will be considered a joke, no serious negotiation will take place, and writers will slowly but surely end this strike by returning to work, with nothing significant gained.
It’s sad to say it and will be much sadder to see it come to pass, but its the obvious conclusion to draw in looking objectively at the actions of the WGA, AMPTP/networks, and shows/hosts who pay lip service to the WGA cause but whose actions speak volumes otherwise.
Good for him! He is so much better than Letterman, without writers!
Let’s say it together: Jay Leno is a SCAB! (we point fingers) SCABBER JAY! SCABBER JAY!
I think Leno has revealed himself to be (just as his history demonstrated he would) the self-seving, company man, we knew he was all along.
All that, “I support the writers” stuff was pure bullshit. Leno cares only about himself and revels in his insider status. GE/NBC and Leno deserve one another.
what are the odds nikki that your being given disinformation just to lower the morale of the guild
The Union busted itself. The writers at Letterman should stay off work, until all the members go back to work.
What point are these lines, when some return and others do not.
I have to side with Leno on this one. It sounds like Verrone is changing his tune. Probably due to other memebers raising a stink that he didn’t anticipate. NBC sound extremely confident about what was said in the meeting. Something tells me Verrone has just been caught trying to flip flop.
As supportive as Jay was when the show wasn’t around, I can’t see him ignoring the demands of the WGA so he can do a barely funny monologue.
If it turns out that Verrone messed up and is trying to save face then you could see mass picket line crossings by writers who already feel that they are being betrayed because of the Letterman deal.
This sucks, because I want the writer’s to get everything they’ve asked for, but something tells me they may have made a colossal mistake.
Stay mellow folks.
Jay Leno giving a monologue at the beginning of his show is just a small thing.
Read the Op-ed in the LA Times today to get a little perspective.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-taylor3jan03,0,2812372.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
Be well and see you on the line.
Unfortunately, to cater to Jay means there’s a tier system of celebrity within the Guild. It is sad but it is true. Jay the biggest supporter? I would venture to offer that Dave is by showing that a Production Company hasn’t got a problem with giving into the kind of contract the Guild is fighting for.
Jay shouldn’t have said a thing about writing his own monologue. He should have let it lie. All he did was expose a bad decision potentially made by the Guild and therefor has helped Big Media out.
Jay’s boasting has put everybody in a poor position, except NBC. NBC gets to sit back and watch the infighting.
Looks like Jay did a good job and much better the Letterman!
As for the WGA talking out of both side LOL look at what they pulled when they were talking about new media in the contract and now its about new media and how they want all reality show writers to be WGA and that was never on the table.
Seems like the WGA does not know what they are doing and need to get back to the table and work out a contract and get this town back to doing what we all miss and that is WORK!
WGA please drop your must have this and that and get back to the real job and that is getting a good contract for your writers!
when you look at the fact he refused to pay his staff until he was shamed into it, was the first real host to cross the picket line, has proven himself to be a huge hypocrite (re doughnut delivery) and now thumbing his nose at his own guild AND his own writing staff, it’s obvious that Leno is – not a good man. He doesn’t have good character and his values are lacking.
Is there any word about Colbert and stewart and how they plan to approach their shows? I am guessing they opt for the Conan O’Brien route of not trying too hard thus not showing up their own writers, which is the classy approach.
Who cares if Leno was allowed to write his own monologue or not? What is important is:
1. Leno still beat Letterman.
2. The networks are now making money again in late night. The Tonight Show is going to sell it’s ad time for the same amount as before but without the cost of it’s staff, so NBC’s strike burden is significantly reduced. The other networks have also reduced their strike burden. NBC and ABC probably make most of their profit from their morning and late night shows. The studios now see their negotiating position as stronger than before. The WGA’s leverage is now reduced.
3. The idea that the American public is behind the WGA and their cause is now officially dead. If the public cared about the strike and supported the WGA, Leno’s numbers would be down not up, due to the mass boycott of his non-guild approved show.
4. This new WGA strategy, if you can call it that, is failing. Guild members and many, many others continue to suffer due to the incompetence of the WGA leadership.
5. New people need to take over the negotiation from David Young and Pat Verrone.
Whom should I believe … Patrick Verrone or some sleezy NBC lawyers? Sadly enough, after months of being lied to by Verrone and his loutish sidekick David Young, I’m inclined to put more faith in the sleezy lawyers.
anon: “It now appears that the WGA does not know how to make effective strategic moves and is instead flailing about badly.”
I hate to say it, but I think you’re right. Winship of the WGAEast sends out a letter to his membership that essentially apologizes to Leno, O’Brien and Kimmel for deciding to picket their shows. The WGA makes a big to-do over its divide-and-conquer strategy to fracture the AMPTP, but only does a deal with World Wide Pants when it becomes clear that Letterman and Ferguson will go back on the air even without one; then the Guild refuses to do a deal with Dick Clark Productions because picketing the Golden Globes is more important than making good on its declared strategy.
What can the Guild do about Leno now? Any real disciplinary action will just force him to go fi-core. Doing nothing will send a message that not all WGA members are created equal. The best that they can probably muster is a lukewarm statement of disapproval, which won’t accomplish anything and will anger both Leno and the strikers.
I’m getting the impression that the Guild assumed the strike would run two weeks, tops, and that they wouldn’t have to deal with these situations. It’s pretty clear they didn’t plan adequately for them. It looks like the Guild has no end game.
I dunno… I’m sympathetic to Jay’s situation, but I like the guy. I would think though that as soon as it was understood definitively that he shouldn’t be writing, that he stop and do some improv with the audience or something… there’s a middle ground…
A note to Jake Hollywood:
Cool it. This is the entirely predictable outcome of the WGA decision to cut a side deal with Letterman.
We muddied the waters. We put Leno in an impossible position. What was he supposed to do? Let his own show go down the tubes, while ever-so-cool Dave gets a free pass?
And please, before someone out there starts in with the usual “shill” accusations, I’ve been a produced member of the WGA for over twenty years. I went through the ’88 strike, and suffered tremendously. It took almost three years to regain what I’d lost in terms of momentum and fans in the studios, because so many of the executives who were championing me got fired.
I support the strike. The downloading/streaming issue is imperative. But I also believe that the Letterman deal was a huge tactical error – from allowing the studios to promote their wares, to allowing the networks to recoup their losses (Did you see the overnights on the late night shows? NBC and CBS are thrilled today,) to causing the kind of guild-splitting unrest that we’re starting to see as a result of this.
From my POV, the audience couldn’t give a damn about any of this. In the best of times, more watch Leno than Letterman. All they got from last night is that the hosts are back, there’s some kind of strike going on but it doesn’t seem to have had any effect, and tomorow’s jokes will be about Hillary and Huckabee.
Leno ain’t the problem here. And maybe you ought to think about it, before you continue cartwheeling across these pages screaming scab and shill.
But wait. Jay isn’t writing his own monologue. He’s getting some wannabes from the comedy clubs to do it for whatever he pays a pop. Of all people, Jay should support writers since he is not one.
Jay is a scab whose biggest concern is ceding his late night crown to a MUCH funnier Letterman.
The unfortunate reality is that Jay is a scab who is boosting NBC’s ratings by returning to the air and therefore prolonging the strike.
The rhetoric about Leno supporting the writers is so empty. He brought donuts to the picket line, and as far as I can tell, he then left. He didn’t picket or invest any time into the strike. (Someone correct me if I’m wrong.)
He paid his staff while they were off. That was a great thing, but it doesn’t constitute support for the writers.
So what is this vaunted “support”. You buy a few donuts and say “I support the writers” and then go and _write_ when you’re supposed to be on strike? That does NOT add up to support, and people need to stop playing that card.
I have said all along that the WGA leadership is out of its league battling the AMPTP. There have been many examples, but lets just examine this one…
If the WGA gave WWP an interim agreement to send writers back to work as a strategic manuever, how in the hell did they not consult Leno beforehand and discuss this strategy??? The only way this move could help the WGA is if Leno was on board to tank his show. Clearly thats not the case. Thats just a blatant strategic blunder and now not only is it not dividing the AMPTP, but it might be the start of a divide amongst writers.
I said from teh begining that I could positives and negatives for the WGA making the deal with WWP and I would reserve opinion as to whether or not it ultimately was a smart move or not. I still will wait to see the ratings numbers after several weeks, but it appears that the WGA severley limited the chance of this working at all by not having Leno on board with the plan from the beginning.