As you know, I’ve been ill with bronchial flu and a fever but also reporting for days now that the informal talks have been productive and progressing. Now sources are telling me the WGA and moguls are at the point where they may reach a final settlement very soon after overcoming major hurdles. The New York Times is reporting this also and quotes sources saying “a tentative agreement” may come “as early as next week”. This means a settlement to end the strike and put Hollywood back to work could also come soon enough to hold a real Oscars. As the news spread, cautious optimism spread, too.
2ND UPDATE: The Los Angeles Times reports that “Guild negotiators Young, Verrone and Bowman on Monday are expected to brief the union’s 17-member negotiating committee and board of directors on the proposed contract.”
UPDATE: United Hollywood, the unofficial website for WGA info, says: “UH has confirmed from off-the-record sources that progress is indeed being made in the informal talks, and that creative solutions to the biggest differences between the AMPTP and the WGA have gotten the tentative and cautious approval of both sides. This does not mean there is a deal in principle yet. It means we may, finally, be very close to one — as close as days away. And while we’re cautiously optimistic about what we’re hearing, it comes with a real caveat. Just as happened with the DGA deal, points that are agreed to in informal negotiation can be thought of as points on a deal memo — but it’s the drafting language that comes from hammering out those points that makes them legally binding. And our sources say that draft language doesn’t yet exist. That’s a big part of what will be happening in the next few days, as negotiations continue. Until the WGA and the companies have enshrined the deal points — whatever they are — into real draft language, those deal points can’t be thought of as final.”
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Please dont say that to loud look what happen in December. If there going to settle then lets do it. dont give people a big sigh then it breaks down again
There was no information in today’s NYT story that wasn’t in Nikki’s post last night.
Nikki has owned this story from beginning to end (if this is indeed the end.)
I wouldn’t believe Mr. Cipely any further than I could throw Dave McNary and the trash he throws over at Variety.
Hope you are feeling better.
Oh, please, please, please let this be true!
The hell with the Oscars. Can the TV season be saved?
United Hollywood has confirmed from their sources that things are going well. Have some hope already, killjoys.
I’ll address this to WGA member who mentioned the “Lucy with the football” scenario yet again.
Please shut the hell up! You’re a writer… not a negotiator.
You are either some hack looking for a reason not to write…. or you’re just praying for a superb deal that pays you to write the idiotic drivel that passes as television these days.
Mr.Cieply wrote a completely biased article just days before (on the 31st) titled: “Recent Moves by Guild Leaders Rattle Writers’ Talks”
In that article Cieply stated how Phil Alden Robinson’s email to UnitedHollywood in which he called on writers to be tough and get a good deal, had somehow derailed the talks and possibly unfairly broken the news blackout agreement. Of course, Phil isn’t on the WGA negotiating committee and has been in none of the meetings so his letter is just another letter of support and solidarity, but it was portrayed very differently in the article.
And then Cieply went on to say how the WGA leadership shocked Les Moonves by planning to meet with Viacom investors to let them know how much the AMPTP’s failure to negotiate a reasonable deal has cost them. He of course failed to mention that the meeting was called off very publicly (headline in Variety the day before) as a gesture of good will by the writers. Of course, if he included the full story how would he make the writers look unreasonable?
So do take what Mr. Cieply says with that in mind. All these leaks of things going well would point to an upcoming leaving of the table once more by the studios (as always planned.) They can then blame the “unreasonable” WGA leadership for not taking the lowball offer.
Sorry to say, but they have absolutely no reason to leak such information otherwise.
My God you people are the most pessimistic, sad, pathetic sounding people. It must really suck to be you.
Welcome back, Nikki.
Michael Cieply will repeat anything an authority figure tells him without even checking against another source. Never believe anything he says. The NYT public editor should investigate his terrible reporting on this strike. Nikki — you know this! Nothing is lost by casting a gimlet eye on this story.
The studios are going to offer crap, and then be “shocked” when the WGA doesn’t take it. They’ll then try to blame the WGA leadership for being inexperienced and unreasonable, unlike the brilliant leadership of the DGA (who of course could care less about new media residuals.) And lucky for the studios, hacks like Michael Cieply will help them get their spin out to the world.
Feel better Nikki Darlin’ –
That spoof was hysterical…
Bottom line here:
1) Writers will believe it when we see it and hear it from our Negs.
2) If the Moguls did not change EST Formulas from a flat rate to a decent percentage rate I doubt our Guys would accept it or even bring it to a vote…
3)SAG has now taken the lead on protecting both Guilds. Moguls know that and realize they can’t get away with their old tactics.
hey wga member – you’re a tool.
From UH… interesting…
Thanks Nikki
“NY Times Reports Progress In Talks
As this is written, the WGA and AMPTP are still under a news blackout regarding the ongoing informal negotiations.
However, the NY Times just reported that “major roadblocks” have been gotten past in the negotiations, and progress will be swifter in the negotiations going forward — with an eye toward an agreement in principle coming out of negotiations fairly soon.
UH has confirmed from off-the-record sources that progress is indeed being made in the informal talks, and that creative solutions to the biggest differences between the AMPTP and the WGA have gotten the tentative and cautious approval of both sides.
This does not mean there is a deal in principle yet. It means we may, finally, be very close to one — as close as days away.
And while we’re cautiously optimistic about what we’re hearing, it comes with a real caveat.
Just as happened with the DGA deal, points that are agreed to in informal negotiation can be thought of as points on a deal memo — but it’s the drafting language that comes from hammering out those points that makes them legally binding. And our sources say that draft language doesn’t yet exist. That’s a big part of what will be happening in the next few days, as negotiations continue.
Until the WGA and the companies have enshrined the deal points — whatever they are — into real draft language, those deal points can’t be thought of as final.
The only reason we’ve gotten as far as we have in the negotiations is because the pressure has stayed on. If we let up on that pressure, even a little, it could affect the draft language of the agreement. It could, in a very real way, diminish the power of our negotiators and our Guild now, when it matters most.
Stay out there. Stay on the lines, stay informed. Stay strong. We’ll have more soon.”
Just because Ceiply wrote it doesn’t mean it’s not true. On the other hand…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-tasini/is-michael-cieply-the-wor_b_83066.html
I’m thinking, like EVERYTHING in Hollywood, don’t buy the farm until the check clears. And we haven’t even SEEN a check yet…
Hope you’re feeling better, Nikki. Thanks for continuing to report.
This is great news. But do you think this means that the tv season could be saved?
p.s. thanks for updating Nikki. i hope you are feeling better!
Dear Studio Shill “Wow” — thank you for confirming everyone’s suspicions that this is yet another studio trick. It doesn’t suck to be a successful creative figure in showbiz, it sucks to be a paid studio shill making $14.50 an hour to post false blog items on a Saturday.
So… people keep commenting about a post by “WGA member” that mentioned the Lucy and the football scenario, but apparently Nikki has deleted that post from the comments here. Nikki, if you’re interested in purging history Stalin-style, then at least cut out the comments where people call “WGA Member” a tool, etc, to cover your tracks!
There sure are a lot of people getting upset simply because one “WGA Member” posted that we should take news reports with a grain of salt and that people shouldn’t get their hopes up.
Truth is, either they’re close to a deal or they’re not. Nothing we post here will change that. So it just seems to confirm other people’s suspicions that these name-callers are studio employees or their hired hands who are out to tarnish writers.
Being cautious about good news at this point is only natural. Screaming about how the studios are surely going to screw the WGA with a lowball deal, or that the writers should shut up and take it shows a lack of respect and trust to the WGA negotiators who might just be able to puill off a good deal.
Calling each other names like studio shill or pathetic is just immature and does not help anyone. How about just waiting till Monday to hear what’s really happening before damning or praising?
Gotta have hope….
BTL 399
“It doesn’t suck to be a successful creative figure in showbiz, it sucks to be a paid studio shill making $14.50 an hour to post false blog items on a Saturday.”
Ughhh… don’t you see it’s this very attitude that grates on everybody? $14.50/hour… this shows just how out of touch the writers are with people who are truly in need of financial help. $14.50/hour is great money compared to many many jobs. I know being a creative figure in showbiz (i.e. being responsible for three jokes a week on The Earl Show) is really amazing and does the world a lot of good that you should be overly compensated for… but you must understand that countless people think the vast majority of writers are complete hacks who are lucky to have jobs in the first place.
Dear Studio Shill “Wow” — thank you for confirming everyone’s suspicions that this is yet another studio trick. It doesn’t suck to be a successful creative figure in showbiz, it sucks to be a paid studio shill making $14.50 an hour to post false blog items on a Saturday.
Dear You A Loser!
To whom exactly are you going to direct your paranoid, delusional vitriol to when the strike ends within the next two weeks?
Just curious.
If you guys don’t mind, I’ll be optimistic about this. I don’t think it’s exactly the same situation as last time, because the DGA deal, the Oscars, and force majeure has changed the landscape from when last we were at this point and the AMPTP weasels walked away. I think there is actual incentive for the studios to get this done and get it done soon.
Good news!!!
But, being a feature film writer… I could care less if the TV season is saved or not. It’s crap anyway and partly responsible for our lack of leverage in this strike. BAD TV is not worth saving… the public knows it and so do the moguls. Those network “writers” need to create something of substance like Showtime’s “Dexter” or HBO’s “Entourage”.
When this strike ends… it’s time for the feature film writers to seriously consider forming their own union in the near future.