As you know, I’ve been ill with bronchial flu and a fever but also reporting for days now that the informal talks have been productive and progressing. Now sources are telling me the WGA and moguls are at the point where they may reach a final settlement very soon after overcoming major hurdles. The New York Times is reporting this also and quotes sources saying “a tentative agreement” may come “as early as next week”. This means a settlement to end the strike and put Hollywood back to work could also come soon enough to hold a real Oscars. As the news spread, cautious optimism spread, too.
2ND UPDATE: The Los Angeles Times reports that “Guild negotiators Young, Verrone and Bowman on Monday are expected to brief the union’s 17-member negotiating committee and board of directors on the proposed contract.”
UPDATE: United Hollywood, the unofficial website for WGA info, says: “UH has confirmed from off-the-record sources that progress is indeed being made in the informal talks, and that creative solutions to the biggest differences between the AMPTP and the WGA have gotten the tentative and cautious approval of both sides. This does not mean there is a deal in principle yet. It means we may, finally, be very close to one — as close as days away. And while we’re cautiously optimistic about what we’re hearing, it comes with a real caveat. Just as happened with the DGA deal, points that are agreed to in informal negotiation can be thought of as points on a deal memo — but it’s the drafting language that comes from hammering out those points that makes them legally binding. And our sources say that draft language doesn’t yet exist. That’s a big part of what will be happening in the next few days, as negotiations continue. Until the WGA and the companies have enshrined the deal points — whatever they are — into real draft language, those deal points can’t be thought of as final.”
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WOW: “My God you people are the most pessimistic, sad, pathetic sounding people. It must really suck to be you.
Comment by Wow”
Is it pessimism or realism? You know what it REALLY must suck to be? It must suck to be someone who has to denigrate a REASONABLY skeptical audience’s opinions just because you don’t like them. If you knew ANYTHING about the dynamics at play here, you would understand the skepticism, not attacking it.
And to “You a loser” — calling “WOW” a studio shill is baseless. Why can’t he just be a fool?
Dear Jesus, you wrote: ” $14.50/hour… this shows just how out of touch the writers are with people who are truly in need of financial help. $14.50/hour is great money compared to many many jobs.”
Really? One writer’s comment mocking $14.50 shows how “out of touch the writers are”?
Is that how it works? Really? Thank for the lesson in how to over-generalize.
So I guess your post means that all people who don’t support the writers are morons then?
Is that how it works?
I’ll post anti-WGA comment for $13.75/hour. Who wants me?
Again, patience.
Let the negotiators do their job as the WGA and SAG (my guild) keep up the pressure.
When a tentative agreement is reached and the WGA membership has a chance to check it out, THEN let the debate over ratification begin.
Until then, best to take any rumors about the status of the talks with a mine of salt.
Feature Film Writer wrote:
“being a feature film writer… I could care less if the TV season is saved or not. It’s crap anyway and partly responsible for our lack of leverage in this strike.”
Yeah, but “White Chicks” is literature.
What a self-righteous asshole.
Ordinarily I would mistrust anything “reported” by Cieply, but the combo of UH’s remarks, with AP and Reuters both reporting progress as well, at least has me hopeful that we might be looking at some kind of a pre-talk preliminary understanding.
If it is a crappy AMPTP negotiating tactic, well – fine. Nothing those crazy bananoos folks at the AMPTP do would be surprising, and it won’t break the WGA’s resolve. We’ll chalk it up to “nice try, but no cigar.”
I’m still keeping on with my strike-work ’til someone officially speaking for the strike tells me to stop.
I just have two points to make…
1. No waiver for the Oscars until a real deal is in place.
2. The AMPTP and the WGA have to realize that they need each other, and if the film industry is to survive in the face of competition from new media (video games, internet) they have to make their relationship collaborative instead of adversarial.
That’s my two cents.
The studio shills are now taking the name “Jesus”? That’s offensive. Talk about a Messiah Complex.
Since Nikki inadvertenly deleted my earlier post that everyone keeps referring to, here it is again:
Rembember, fellow writers, just because Nikki says it’s not Lucy with the football again doesn’t mean it’s not Lucy with the football again.
The New York Times’s Michael Cieply is the same hack who wrote that nasty piece about Verrone and Young that for some reason known only to God and Bill Keller wound up on the front page above the fold.
This not only could be a way to raise our hopes and dash them again, but rather to raise our hopes so that it would bring pressure on the WGA leadership to not reject the studios’ “best and final offer.”
It’s certainly not out of the question that the studios would do this via the Times, especially since we essentially did the same thing last week via that SAG letter.
Particulaly suspcious about the article is its mention of reaching a deal without the need for formal negotiations, with the details to be addressed later. This could very well be a way for the studios to ensure that the Oscars happens, and then come Feb 25th they will say, “No, that’s not what we agreed to,” and the whole “deal” will collapse.
Think of the way the CEO’s have conducted this whole affair, and filter any rumors through that muck.
Come on, “Feature Film Writer”…sure there are some crappy TV shows. There are also some crappy movies. I’m pretty sure the ratio is about the same in either medium. Why post just to disparage other writers?
Judging from the tight crevice your head seems to be wedged into, I’m wondering how you manage to see your keyboard.
Nikki,
Thanks for all your information, you have been ahead of the game since day 1.
Feel better soon, take it easy, and get plenty of rest.
I won’t get my hopes up, just to have them dashed again. So I will wait and see. Hopefully everyone can go back to work soon.
Why all the name calling? We’re all adults.
The level of discourse on this site is wonderful. Firstly, we don’t know that Nikki’s or UH’s or NYT’s sources are on the studios’ side. What if it came from WGA negotiators or WGA people who were in the room? Some people say, why would anybody but the AMPTP leak this information? Well, maybe some of the WGAs in the room hear some of the pessimism and want to give out a glimmer of hope. I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s possible.
Also, it just doesn’t seem like something the studios would do at this point. Outside influences like the WGA breaking off the meeting with market analysts would seem to point towards progress being made. If it was going south, I wouldn’t expect the leadership now to do that. Also the fact that UH (a much more hardline site) posted this is encouraging. And remember, Nikki called it first before the Moguls broke off talks in December. She was optimistic at first but slowly that faded into announcing that the Studios planned to break off talks a day or two before they did.
All I’m saying is that while we shouldn’t buy the farm before the check clears (or we see the check), we should at least wait and see what’s on the check before we rip it up. Maybe the Studios are just screwing with you guys but I honestly don’t see a good reason for them to do so at this point. I don’t think they want to wait until June to settle this.
Feature Film Writer,
Have you seen Norbit or Captivity? Go ahead and start your own union. Good luck with that.
i just hope that the brilliant and compassionate Verrone and Young let the writers return to work while the contract is being drawn up. If not, that could mean completing one LESS episode and take an additional two weeks of pay out of everyone’s pocket.
The sooner the better.
A scoop for you Nikster – “Guild negotiators David Young, Patric M. Verrone and John Bowman are scheduled to brief the union’s negotiating committee on the proposed deal Monday.”
You’ll have to hurry though if you want to call it an exclusive as it has been up on the LAT since around four.
I’m going to be optimistic about this, for once.
Tentative deal points leading to legal discussion is far more than we’ve heard in a long while.
I’ll join the wait and see club.
NBC Nightly news just reported the deal is done and will be shown to the membership on Monday.
Hope it’s coming to an end. Hope everyone involved, the entire industry, benefits. Hope feature writer fellow, he of the deriding posting, never has to work on a Martin Lawrence picture. Seriously,
thanks Nikki Finke. I’m an east coaster, new to the guild, tv and features, (yes, Virginia, I believe there is possibility for quality in both) and your blog has been an eye opener to an industry I’m just becoming involved with (weird timing, eh?) Sorry you’ve been ill, glad you’re feeling better. And, oh yeah, to all the underdogs everywhere – GO GIANTS!!!
thanks for keeping on top of this even as you lay ill in your sick bed, nikki.
i’m not feelin’ so good myself.
So does this spell the end for Nick Counter, that little limp dick who couldn’t get the job done for the studios? Turns out Nick was just a little china doll who cracked when big bad Dave Young wouldn’t let him have more chairs.
Glad mommy Iger and daddy Chernin finally took over and sent big bad Nick to his room with no supper, for this was not a job for children.
“Feature Film Writer”
What a clown. Great name, too. “Feature Film Writer”. I’ll bet it says that on your license plate. Clown.
Hope we’re all back soon.
Blah Blah Blah! Will they get the talks over with already, sign a deal and let all of us get back to work?
Wait, wait…Entourage is a ‘show of substance’??
I don’t care if they give the WGA double what they’re asking for. I really want the Oscars to be canceled. I want Gil Cates to sit home twiddling his thumbs til next year. You know, the only reason he directs an awards show is because he couldn’t make it as a real director. That failure is who represents the DGA. What a joke.