UPDATE: Tonight I received the news that AFTRA national president Roberta Reardon and officers
including Susan Boyd Joyce, Denny Delk, Bob Edwards, Matt Kimbrough, Shelby Scott held their national meeting and approved a formal rift with their stepsister actors union SAG. They then went to SAG’s national board meeting and declared that AFTRA won’t negotiate jointly with the Screen Actors Guild on the new primetime TV contract. This, in spite of a long-time agreement by AFTRA to bargain jointly with SAG and not undercut rates. So basically those “make nice” pronouncements of recent days are out the window. And all because of a blown-way-out-proportion incident involving AFTRA, SAG and the soap opera The Bold And The Beautiful. Now AFTRA has taken such an extreme position that not even the AFL-CIO may be able to rein it in.
The AFTRA maneuver is disingenuous, bordering on slightly dishonest, because I’m told the union has known about the B&B incident for weeks and done nothing until this weekend. Then there’s the curious and convenient timing of an obviously planted story in the Los Angeles Times Saturday, designed to give Reardon some protective cover. So it now looks like tonight’s announcement was a carefully planned 11th hour ploy by her to get out of joint bargaining and justify AFTRA’s going it alone. My sources assure me that AFTRA has false concerns because SAG has no interest in organizing daytime. If anything, the concern is justified the other way around because AFTRA is already treading on SAG’s scripted TV turf by repping, for example, both Damage and Dirt.
It was hardly a secret, much less a scoop, that the Emmy-winning star of The Bold And The Beautiful, Susan Flannery, has for some time now circulated a petition to decertify AFTRA as the union representing the actors on the long-running soap. But, suddenly, the LA Times was exaggerating a minor matter whereby SAG’s national executive director Doug Allen was approached by two B&B actors for a meeting. When the duo launched into a litany of complaints about AFTRA’s representation, witnesses tell me that Allen properly turned them aside and sent them back to AFTRA. But it took the LAT until the 11th paragraph to convey that salient point. And the paper never bothered to mention that these two B&B cast members were also SAG members since there are many dual cardholders.
This is, after all, the very same newspaper that took every side but the WGA’s when the striking writers were pressured by the moguls and the directors. And the same newspaper that ignored the recent AFTRA-SAG blame game when AFTRA was at fault. Yet the LAT on Saturday was breathlessly reporting how “AFTRA officials were upset at SAG for not telling them about the meeting until two weeks after the fact, according to Reardon.” Interesting that she timed her public hissy fit to the very weekend when both AFTRA and SAG national boards were meeting on the eve of the two guilds starting joint negotiations on the primetime TV contract.
I’m told from inside AFTRA’s board confab that Reardon “misrepresented the incident to blame Doug Allen for encouraging poaching and raiding even though that’s not the case. Reardon said it was the straw that broke the camel’s back. She’s using this as an excuse because she’s wanted to get out of Phase One for the past year.”
Reardon acolytes keep claiming that SAG’s so-called “Membership First” leadership clique is causing all the current trouble with AFTRA. Don’t misunderstand me: there’s plenty of petty nonsense going on inside both camps. But it’s painful to watch the actors guilds battle amongst themselves (or even the actors inside SAG) with that June deadline bearing down. I sense real concern that dual cardholders may not stay loyal in the event of a SAG strike. Which serves to explain why this latest Reardon move looks like an AFTRA ploy to further encroach on SAG’s jurisdiction by offering inferior terms on contracts. While SAG accounts for 100% of motion pictures and about 90+% of television, AFTRA has 3 shows under this primetime TV contract. Now it appears that AFTRA is going to negotiate those on its own, thus continuing the union’s shameful history of pay undercuts and residuals giveaways that have compromised actors for years. Lots of casts are still unhappy with AFTRA’s basic cable deals, and its penchant for lousy one-time-only pacts, so there will be more when AFTRA folds on primetime contract points. Why, it’s a Big Media mogul’s wet dream!
But here’s what Reardon said in a statement Saturday night:
“AFTRA’s primary goal is to improve and protect the working lives of performers. During the past year, AFTRA has fought hard and expended an enormous amount of time, energy and resources to maintain the integrity of our Phase One joint bargaining process with the Screen Actors Guild, so we could sit across the table from the industry with total and unequivocal unity. Unfortunately, SAG leadership has made this impossible. For the past year SAG leadership in Hollywood has engaged in a relentless campaign of disinformation and disparagement, culminating in a recent attempt to decertify a AFTRA daytime soap opera. As a result of this continued and ongoing behavior by SAG leadership, which at its core harms all working performers and the labor movement, we find ourselves unable to have any confidence in their ability to live up to the principles of partnership and union solidarity. AFTRA believes it must devote its full energies to working on behalf of performers, and not wasting time assessing whether our partner is being honest with us. With this in mind, the AFTRA National Board today voted overwhelmingly in favor of suspending Phase One, and negotiating the primetime television contract on our own. We are now prepared to move forward and negotiate a strong contract for our members as soon as possible. This action was taken in the hope that someday, the historic trust between these two organizations can be rebuilt – in the best interests of all performers.”
SAG President Alan Rosenberg also released a statement, and sounded pissed:
“We remain focused on negotiating the best terms for actors covered by the TV Theatrical contract. We spent weeks working with our fellow actors in AFTRA on joint proposals to improve the lives of all working actors. AFTRA’s refusal now to bargain together and their last second abandonment of the joint process is calculated, cynical and serves the interests of their institution not its members.”
Naturally, the AMPTP chimed in from the sidelines, since the Big Media companies have been watching with glee while AFTRA beats up on SAG:
“On February 14th, just after we concluded our agreement with the writers, we called for our negotiations with actors to begin promptly. Today we are pleased that to learn that AFTRA is also ready to begin talks immediately. We are determined, as we have always been, to work hard and bargain reasonably with the actors’ unions so that we can all avoid another harmful, unnecessary strike.”
Finally, very late Saturday night, Reardon sent this email signed “in solidarity” to AFTRA members:
March 29, 2008
Dear AFTRA Member,
AFTRA’s primary goal is to improve and protect the working lives of performers. During the past year, AFTRA has fought hard and expended an enormous amount of time, energy and resources to maintain the integrity of our Phase One joint bargaining process with the Screen Actors Guild, so we could sit across the table from the industry with total and unequivocal unity. Unfortunately, SAG leadership has made this impossible. For the past year SAG leadership in Hollywood has engaged in a relentless campaign of disinformation and disparagement, culminating in a recent attempt to decertify a AFTRA daytime soap opera.
AFTRA recently became aware that leaders of SAG have involved themselves in a campaign to encourage cast members on the CBS daytime drama “The Bold and the Beautiful” to decertify AFTRA as their union. The people leading this drive apparently believe that decertifying AFTRA would further the goal of having one union for all actors. In fact, it would do the opposite. If successful, it would leave the performers on “The Bold and the Beautiful” stripped of any union representation and uncovered by any union contract. This situation is sadly not surprising given SAG Hollywood leadership’s ongoing campaign of misinformation to disparage AFTRA.
The truth is that the existing AFTRA contract for daytime series provides players with strong provisions regarding crediting, overtime rates, and vacation days. Year after year, AFTRA has consistently won raises and improvements for daytime players—despite the efforts of networks and producers to cut costs at daytime serials. A vote to decertify would strip the cast of “The Bold and the Beautiful” of all these hard-fought gains. To achieve anything close to what the AFTRA contract offers, the cast would have to negotiate from scratch—perhaps even strike—without the support of performers covered by the Network TV Code.
The involvement of SAG leaders in the effort to remove AFTRA from a show covered by an AFTRA contract violates all norms of union solidarity. But this most recent situation, along with the continued and ongoing behavior by SAG Hollywood leadership, which harms all working performers and the labor movement, forced us to confront on the eve of negotiations the very painful question: how could we sit beside SAG at the bargaining table at the same time that its leaders in Hollywood are conspiring to undermine the gains we’ve achieved for all performers?
AFTRA’s leadership believes that our union must devote its energies first and foremost to working on behalf of performers, and not waste any more time assessing whether our partner is being honest with us. With this in mind, the AFTRA National Board today voted overwhelmingly in favor of suspending Phase One, and negotiating the primetime television contract on our own. We are now prepared to move forward and negotiate a strong contract for our members as soon as possible.
This action –suspension rather than termination — was taken with the understanding that many among SAG’s leadership are as troubled by the events that have led us to this point as we are, and in the hope that someday, the historic trust between these two organizations can be rebuilt – in the best interests of all performers.
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Meanwhile, here are all my recent SAG-AFTRA stories:
- SAG & AFTRA Actually Agree On Proposals
- LA Mayor Tells Hollywood Guilds: “We Must Keep This Town Working”
- AFTRA Ratifies Network News Contract
- AFL-CIO Puts Out SAG/AFTRA Flame War: “Joint Negotiating”
- More SAG/AFTRA Battling Back And Forth
- SAG/AFTRA Contract Talks With AMPTP May Start Week Of March 31st
- Joint SAG/AFTRA Meetings Scheduled
- AFTRA Announces Tentative Agreement On Network TV Code
- EXCLUSIVE: Big Media Moguls And SAG Leaders Meet Secretly
- SAG Board Member Urges AFTRA Boycott
- AFTRA Sets March 10th Deadline To Know If SAG Will Start Talks Early
- SAG’s Rosenberg Calls AFTRA Claim “Perplexing” And Wants Explanation
- AFTRA Leader Claims Joint Resolution With SAG “Erroneous”
- Huh? No SAG-AFTRA Lovefest After All?
- SAG & AFTRA Together To Set Talks Date
- Summit Of AFL-CIO, SAG, AFTRA Leaders
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SHAME on Courtney Cox for producing a show with AFTRA after she made millions on a SAG show!!
This news will devastate the negotiations with SAG because most SAG members are also AFTRA members. If AFTRA comes to the table and finish negotiations with the AMPTP before SAG starts their talks it will be the DGA all over again.
But, SAG members are not like the WGA members. SAG members will strike for turnip seeds.
Most like me barely work on a regular basis.
SAG will instruct its members to go against the new AFTRA contract and call for a strike. SAG will demand a better deal than the writers did including a DVD increase on top of everybody’s deals. And after Jeffery Zucker just lampooned the 17 day internet promotion window SAG will not be laughing as most of us weren’t either.
SAG will attempt to close that promotional window gap by lets say two days of promotional use.
The AMPTP will never accept these terms and they will walk from the negotiating table.
That would mean hell on earth as we know it.
AFTRA is encroaching on SAG territory/jurisdiction. Late last year I worked as a SAG member on EVERYBODY HATES CHRIS and it was under a joint AFTRA/SAG contract. That’s like a WGA member working on a joint IATSE contract.
I asked my brother who is also a SAG member in New York if SAG leadership recommended a strike would he ratify a strike on their words. His answer was, ”YES, I would strike.”
The only solution I see is that the WGA, DGA, SAG and even AFTRA must work together to bring down the temperature a bit.
Movie stars are not respected by most SAG members like you would think.
Think of it this way, if your cousin won an Oscar and lives in a mansion on the hill and you live in a Kitchenette blow Pico would that not get you to feel your rich cousin’s pain. Even millionaire Hollywood stars and their massive gas-guggling luxury set trailers have to eat too.
Fuck the AMPTP, the union leaders must go directly to the studio heads and network chiefs – yes even Jeff “Shecky Green” Zucker to iron out a deal to avoid a work stoppage.
http://sheckygreene.com/story.htm
“Can’t Take it Anymore” @ 12:20 pm:
Untrue. We’re the viewing public and we support SAG fully.
The public is sick to death of corporate gangster tactics and supports the unions.
As far as the public missing their shows, it doesn’t matter – there’s so little on tv anymore other than reality garbage, or three-peats of shows.
IT TAKES A CLOONEY…………
Or a Hanks, or a Cruise to save this union. And now that I’ve calmed down, somewhat, this is what SAG wanted all along, except on THEIR terms. However, after months of meetings and listening to members concerns SAG agreed to negotiate with AFTRA. And now this.
So how does this work exactly. Who decides if Damages or Dirt should be an AFTRA or SAG show? In other words, who is to blame? Is it the network or the producers who ultimately decide if Rules of Engagement will be SAG or AFTRA? Or the biggest joke of all- AFTRA with SAG rates and conditions.
Would Courtney Cox-Arquette have been part of the decision as a producer to go AFTRA? After years of being part of the highest paid and smartest negotiations in television history would she sell her fellow actors down the river to save a few bucks? Or is this decision beyond her? I would think as a producer she would have SOME say in this. As well as Glenn Close in regard to Damages. FX is SO lucky to have an actress of her stature that I would think a word from her could have changed things. Maybe it still could.
Maybe SAG actors could actually join Justine Bateman in her suggestion to not work AFTRA. Certainly the ones that can afford to. Our futures are being tossed away as I type this, and AFTRA is so ready to sign away our futures. I implore the big names here to wield their power and REFUSE to work these productions. For all of us. Then we’ll see some change!
Peggy Lane O’Rourke
This is as petty as it gets. Of course the Bold and Beautiful cast would prefer to be represented by SAG, who the hell wouldn’t? But the network is never, ever going to allow it, so it’s nice to see AFTRA not creating chaos over a transparently phony pretext. Maybe if they stopped this bickering and actually fought for a decent contract, it would solve the problem of desperately fleeing members.
The bizarre thing is people like Peggy O’Rourke spouting nonsense like “AFTRA is so ready to sign away our futures.” WTF?
AFTRA’s working with the same proposals we put together jointly in the W&WC.
A few morons from the looping community want to strike at the expense of the rest of us? Get real…
When people refer to the public’s lack of tolerance for another stike… It has nothing to do with the TV Viewer’s habits and their support (or lack thereof of their favorite shows). The fact that somebody thinks that is teh issue really shows how out of touch they really are. Its the economic hardships faced by those individuals in the Los Angeles area that are still struggling to overcome the economic effects of the first strike along with soaring gas prices! Those people could care less which side is greedy or responsible they will NOT support another work stoppage that drags the entire LA economy and their financial well-being with it. In fact because of political pressure from all sides plus the division between the two unions, I HIGHLY DOUBT A STRIKE IS EVEN AN OPTION AT THIS POINT! If there is one expect it to be a massive disaster.
Is this a Napoleon complex on the part of AFTRA? I mean to me SAG is Daniel Day Lewis, Forest Whitaker, Hugh Jackman. AFTRA is…Ryan Seacrest, and bad Soap Opera actors (there are some exceptions, but please). Who needs ‘em then?
To: Not on my watch
So you’re saying AFTRA ISN’T ready to accept pretty much the same deal the DGA took? It sure won’t be the same deal SAG would try to get.
And I only wish I were in the looping community. I’m a SAG AFTRA AEA member who survived the writers strike solely on residuals from past SAG work.
Peggy Lane O’Rourke
SAG’s leadership and Membership First has failed. They failed to build a comprehensive coalition with their partners in AFTRA and SAG East and the ATA. They have alienated a major portion of the community at a time where unity is key. You can blame AFTRA all you want but the end result is that SAG leadership failed.
How will the SAG membership really feel if there is a call for a strike and their AFTRA brothers and Sisters are working under a new and improved contract?
Tom
VDOVault: “So when the writers drew parallels about how their big bosses were looting and pillaging Hollywood at the expense of everyone else just so a few moguls at the top could continue to take home tens of millions of dollars each year, where did you really think the public’s sympathy is going to lie?”
The public’s support is noteworthy. In the WGA strike, they bought some pencils and paid for some skytyping. AMPTP learned something important from the WGA strike. The few among the public that actually care have zero influence. When asked whether they prefer the writers’ position or AMPTP’s, the percentage of the public favoring the writers was as overwhelming as the degree of its passivity.
The public doesn’t care that much about Hollywood problems. They have plenty of their own problems to dwell on. If you take away some of their escapism, they will just do other things.
People might even start reading or exercising more. My God!
I think some of the fanboys out there are praying for a SAG strike. They can’t wait to mingle with their favorite actors on the picket lines.
Not On My Watch -
As SAG President Alan Rosenberg just reminded us in his letter to the membership this evening, “AFTRA bargained cable deals at rates lower than SAG minimums and waived residuals. They fully admit this and are now getting backlash from members who are wondering where their residuals went. AFTRA must be accountable for granting these waivers to the contracts we have fought hard to achieve.”
So in practice, who has the actors’ backs and who doesn’t?
Intrigued -
An actors’ strike is most definitely an option. Again from Alan Rosenberg, “Nobody wants a strike, especially after the 100 day WGA strike.” However, it’s the one and only card the actors can play, through their unions, to get a fair contract. Were the unions to pledge to not strike, the AMPTP would have absolutely zero motivation to come to any kind of deal at all. The moguls have to know that we actors, in pursuit of a fair contract – can and will if necessary hit them in the only place they even know how to feel any pain – their bottom line.
As for public support for a strike, it’s up to the actors to make our case the way the writers did. We need to very pro-actively use the Internet to let the general public know what we’re doing and why, and how important their support is to us and how much we value them, as the moguls control the content they stream through mainstream media.
Viewers supporting unions -
Thank you for your support for the actors.
If you’ll allow a difference of opinion, I think there’s some amazing scripted programming on television. We’ve been in something of a renaissance over the past decade or so, and much of the best that television has ever had to offer has been produced post-1995. “Best of” lists in both American and British magazines bear this out, so I know I’m not alone in my opinion.
The ‘straw’ for AFTRA wasn’t just an SAG NationalBOARD MEMBER institgating raiding/peition activity with a neighbor/member-of-the-cast…..btw, that person was THERE when they all met at SAG.
The ‘straw’ was Doug Allen (imagine Rosenberg at his side) refusing to sign the standard NO-Raiding document required by the AFL. HMMM? …..wants to keep his options open?…..ya just never know, the daytimers do well on a regular basis (25 YEARS ON A JOB@#$% – lucky, I would say….))
But Doug gave the AFL…a BIG no-thanks!! A Violation of the cardinal sin in labor…..thou shalt not raid thy neighbors union….and ya gotta guess it’s OK with him….
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Satursday morning….an appeasing lets-make-nice motion is sent over from SAG….”We won’t take a de-certified AFTRA show for TWO years.”
They so TOTALLY missed the boat. Delete ‘two years’ and write’ ‘EVER’ To do they RIGHT thing, Doug had to write NEVER, EVER.
Small footnote, in between unions, cast of The B&B got nothin’, and in two years, SAG would have had to start from scratch….NOTHING would go forward…..they stuff you don’t like nor the stuff you do.
But NOW, we ALL KNOW who we’re dealin’ with.
He’s supposed to be a good labor leader, we don’t DO that kind sh*t to each other….again, I’m talkin’ busines, not hurt feelings.
SAG must feel like the big dog in the hunt now….UNemcumbered.
That will work for everyone!!!!
Formerly, if SAG-LA didn’t get what it had hoped in co-negotiations — it was AFTRA’s fault, dammit
[That was going to be the scenario this time as well.}
Now, on their own, SAG-LA is totally RESPONSIBLE for the outcome (GOT-ta be a little scary fer em….it’s the first time solo- NO TAR-BABY. all since 1981),
I hope it’s good. (I hope it’s really good [really, That’s real…), But be it a disspointment, one must accept the consequences of how one wanted to conduct the negotiation in the first place….solo.
But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. It will be AFTRA’s fault for cutting their leverage out from under them.
So, dear reader, AFRA is blamed either way. We think it’s better for the world to seen just how they will juggle really rich proposals, to the inevitable end. I’ll audition to be the cheerleader!!
I wish them truly, really good lock, especially since Doug doesn’t know the contract like AFTRA staff does…….But I wish ‘em good luck.
Congrats to the Allens –you got what your board wanted you to go get them….CONTROL of the negotiation, today…….tomorrow the planet!!
And your members will carry you as heros throught the street they call Wilshire.
Or they will experience a betrayal so significant this spring, that Alan will have to wait until Sept for your sentence )(don’t worry, you won’t be alone)…….and Doug, there are so many reason either side of the SAG political divide, well, I can think of think of 3 roads to a Golden Parachute.
How much money has SAG spent in severence packages in the last 10 years? It would be useful to kow.
Again, SAG has wrought ALL of this.
Well, you’re talking about a weak union (AFTRA) and a strong union (SAG) who somehow have some conflicting jurisdictions. If AFTRA becomes SAG’S butt boy, a lot of AFTRA personnel are out of work. It really comes down to that. Most of these union folks are out of work actors and civilian staff, and maybe one high profile labor guy from outside (Allen/SAG). So it’s a pissing match folks. It’s as much about actors as the current Democratic party pissing match is about us citizens. The fact that SAG let AFTRA in their poolhouse in the first place meant that sometime, down the line, AFTRA would get it’s back so far up against the wall, that they’d pull shit like this, just to survive. They’re a shit union, with shit rates and shit benefits, muscling in on a better union, with better rates and benefits – simple as that. They want to split now so they can get the AMPTP to meet them in a parking lot somewhere and give them more shows. More shows, more power, more power, more money, more money, higher salaries for the union officers, larger staff, better digs, etc. If you organize 20 shows at shit rates, instead of the current 3 or 4, it starts to add up. All of a sudden, you’re in a nicer building. Why? Cause the AMPTP will run to the lowest bidder. Why wouldn’t they? They’re international corporations when you get to the top of the masthead and see the top dog – it’s Sumner-Fucking-Redstone folks, and he couldn’t give a rat’s ass if top of show on “How I Met Your Mother” is suddenly 50% less expensive for the subsidiary of a subsidiary that he owns. He loves it! It’s good business – costs down – profits up! The AMPTP is licking their chops to fuck SAG – they can’t wait! They’ll make a shit deal with AFTRA, tell SAG to go scratch when SAG walks in in June, all swagger and bluff, and ‘ol Sumner, when he gets that conference call from George Clooney, Brad Pitt and Julia Roberts leaning on him to play ball? You know what he’ll say? He’ll say “I’m Sumner Redstone – I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!”
Did Reardon really write that statement? The sentence construction reads like some of the Fabriani and Lehane brainwashing we saw during the WGA strike.
For all of those claiming this is SAGs fault – uh, were all the horrible contracts AFTRA negotiated SAGs fault also? Keep trying to blame Doug Allen, but AFTRA is a disgrace of a union. They screw actors over every chance they get.
It’s time for all AFTRA actors to go fi-core.
SAG should kick them out of their offices.
There is no reason to take part in this sham of a union.
Quoting Harold
“The public’s support is noteworthy. In the WGA strike, they bought some pencils and paid for some skytyping. AMPTP learned something important from the WGA strike. The few among the public that actually care have zero influence. When asked whether they prefer the writers’ position or AMPTP’s, the percentage of the public favoring the writers was as overwhelming as the degree of its passivity”.
Harold the public did a lot more than that, but apparently you wouldn’t know that because it’s clear to me that you only read mainstream media and DHD for your news (and how you came to read DHD is beyond me…you clearly must have heard about it from a MSM source that grudgingly acknowledged the relevance of Nikki’s site).
It’s not your fault Harold, we’re all conditioned to think that way thanks to the corporate owned media that is pushed down out throats 24/7, but you can keep watching the mainstream pablum and verbatim press releases passed off as ‘news’ or you can do a little real work to locate and read real news stories as well as use the same tools we viewers and fans used to get stuff done (and no frankly we didn’t waste our time courting the mainstream press because we knew the moguls weren’t interested in covering what we — their ultimate customers — had to say. They don’t take criticism well at all, even when it’s constructive, and it’s not like they’re hot to share our poor opinions of them with the rest of the world.)
You cannot be blamed for not knowing that we viewers and fans stopped downloading, watching streaming media online and buying DVDs for the duration of the strike (and some people even cancelled their cable or satellite TV because they didn’t want to pay for only reruns and reality shows…not a position I supported because the writers did not dispute their fair payment for reruns, but one that was a blow to the bottom lines of media companies), we called, faxed, emailed and wrote to advertisers to explain to them why they shouldn’t support network websites with advertisements (and how we were going to refrain from buying their products until the writers got paid for all forms of new media)…in the case of S.C. Johnson we got them to pull some of their online ad campaigns.
I could go on about how we showed up to Congressional events and pickets and rallies all over the country (even when there were no famous ‘actors’ there), sent food to the picket lines, donated to the Actors Fund and the WGA’s Industry Support Fund, how we called and targeted the moguls offices (and in the case of Les Moonves got two additional assistants *hired* to deal with the volume of calls) and much more than that but it’s pointless in your case because unless the efforts show up in the mogul-controlled mainstream media to you they don’t count.
Did you know that more than 200 protestors took over the lobby of the Bear Stearns building in NYC on March 26th for an hour and picketed the idea of bailing out Bear Stearns with taxpayer money? Probably not, unless you caught a scant bit of coverage of the event on CNBC…but the story is all over the online financial press and is spreading via word of mouth.
Did you know that there’s going to be a strike/walkout of independent truckers on April 1st to protest high gas prices and also the idea that independent truck drivers are hugely disadvantaged by their corporate counterparts? Or that a lot of ordinary consumers who upon hearing this are supporting them by not going shopping or doing any unnecessary driving on April 1st? Or didn’t NBC, ABC, CBS or Fox tell you about that?
Did you also know that an index of Hollywood stocks is down 22% since the strike began? Hopefully you at least saw that story in the Hollywood Reporter, which is arguably a more mainstream news outlet than most but I find it interesting that some of the same analysts firms we viewers fans & writers contacted to discuss how their media shareholders needed to question the double talk coming out of the moguls boardrooms (when talking to writers, the moguls plead poverty, while when doing presentations for shareholders, the internet was bringing in rivers of cash) did go ahead and downgrade media stocks. And some viewers and fans sold their shares during the strike.
Does anybody want an actor’s strike? I don’t think so. But can most people put up with the vast majority of Americans increasingly making less and less while a tiny minority takes whatever they can for themselves, and the rest of us be damned? Not hardly.
If called upon to do so again and support striking actors we fans and viewers will be there taking concrete action and seeing that the actors get paid while you are clearly riding the bitter bus and mostly relying on the mogul controlled media for your world view. If the MSM deign to wake up and cover what we do, great, but if not we’re still going to do what it takes to keep the talent on our shows and films getting paid enough to ensure our supply of entertainment keeps coming. We can and will entertain ourselves if we have to, but we far prefer to pay professionals to do it for us. The trick is to make sure that they all get paid and that the moguls don’t siphon off the money for themselves.
The sooner you realize that the news that matters to all of us is not appearing in the middle of the crapfest they put on TV (but is all over the Internet and does get discussed around the water coolers and the dinner tables), the sooner you will realize that just like the rest of us are being lied to and manipulated and that you really don’t have to put up with inferior news coverage. Unless you really like subpar journalism, in which case, knock yourself out…there’s plenty of it out there to watch and read.
Maybe the general diminishment of union power in our nation is leading to desperation…
but let’s just say, if you thought the WGA negotiations and strike were horribly managed…wait until you see what the actors perpetrate…
Gee wiz, I wonder who the AMPTP is gonna want to sit down with first???
Really smart move AFTRA.
I can’t wait till I get to vote for leadership again… Your tenure will be short, Roberta.
Sad really, the writers were united and any problems or complaints were dealt with internally
SAG/AFTRA should learn from this
The Aftra president and officers are not elected by the Aftra membership. They are voted up at the Aftra convention.
With regard to major national contracts, Aftra leadership decides each time whether to send it to the membership, or have a vote in member caucuses, in the 5 largest locals.
Lastly, the ATA decision (giving agents financial interest) was not voted on by the Aftra membership in either a caucus or referendum, it was voted on by the Aftra national board.
I’m confused, Nikki:
I’m told from inside AFTRA’s board confab that Reardon “misrepresented the incident to blame Doug Allen for encouraging poaching and raiding even though that’s not the case. Reardon said it was the straw that broke the camel’s back. She’s using this as an excuse because she’s wanted to get out of Phase One for the past year.”
That’s too bizarre for words. Reardon and Hedgpeth have been fighting the MeFirsters for a year to keep Phase One in place. They had plenty of opportunity if they wanted to to bail.
Now that the Allens have been caught in the act raiding and won’t back away, except maybe for a while on one show, you want them to say, oh, we bow down to the great Screen Actors Guild?
Impossible.
@Can’t Take It Anymore
If things are as bad as your name implies, why on Earth are you still hanging out here? I’m just curious.
As for the entire financial market, I’ve been following it for more than a decade at a variety of sites online. The hits taken in the FIRE economy (Finance Insurance and Real Estate) came from the irrational exuberance and malinvestment of money into real estate. I know for a fact that California is on the bleeding edge of a real estate crash that was being predicted as early as 2002 by many online sites. The extremely creative (and often fraudulent) financing of housing is but one cause of a lot of the economic devastation that is currently being acutely felt in California but impacts the whole country.
But that crash’s causes and preliminary effects predate the writers strike. I wish I could say that now that the writers strike is over, the real estate crisis will resolve itself immediately but it won’t because the securitization of that real estate and its repackaging as investments is now also crashing and with it you can expect to see more economic pain (you certainly can’t keep borrowing against the equity in your house when the value of the house is falling and you can’t convince people to invest in securities and exotic instruments that are based upon something that is losing value). So the writers strike didn’t cause any homeowner’s pain, the FIRE moguls did.
The effect on entertainment stock declines is in part due to the writers strike…people got out of their media stocks because they believed that the strike would do some damage to the media companies. And a study released this morning says that prime time ad rates went down while the strike was in progress (you’ll need to register to read the article):
http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=79621&art_type=10
“”AS THE WRITERS’ STRIKE CAUSED upheaval early this year, the average cost of a prime-time spot dropped 12%, while even “American Idol” couldn’t prevent a notable slide at Fox.
For the Big Four networks, the average spot in the first quarter–melding prices from the upfront [presold ad spot] and scatter [unsold ad spot] markets–cost $125,634. That’s compared to $142,824 a year ago, accounting for the 12% decrease, according to a new report.
The research comes from independent media agency TargetCast tcm, which culled the data from NetCosts, a service run by SQAD that receives reports on spending from some 390 advertisers and agencies. (SQAD says NetCosts represents 40% of all national TV ad expenditures in the $42.8 billion U.S. market.)
Looking at individual networks in the first quarter, Fox saw its average unit cost drop 9.2% to $237,237. That’s more than double CBS ($112,641); nearly double ABC ($122,509); and more than three times as high as NBC’s $77,893. The figures do include the Super Bowl, which aired Feb. 5 on Fox.
In percentage terms, Fox was down the least in the first quarter versus 2007, followed by ABC at a 9.5% decrease. CBS fell 11.9%, and NBC dropped 24.7%.
With the writers’ strike running through mid-February, networks were left without new episodes of scripted hits, such as “Grey’s Anatomy” and “CSI,” leading to double-digit ratings drops in the first quarter.
Those ratings dips, in turn, led to networks having to dole out makegoods [substitute advertising spots], which caused a spike in scatter [unsold ad spot] prices so severe that marketers opted to shift dollars elsewhere. That prompted a trickle-down effect contributing to the drop in unit pricing, according to TargetCast findings.
“Clearly, the writers’ strike caused uncertainty with viewers and advertisers, which impacted ratings and actual prices paid,” said Gary Carr, senior vice president, director of broadcast services at TargetCast.”
There’s more on how the networks all slightly raised ad rates in Q4 of 2007 but you can read the rest of it for yourself. The bottom line is that the media companies took a financial hit too despite how desperately they want to spin it otherwise.
My point to Harold and to you is that you shouldn’t put as much stock into what the mainstream media choose to tell you and also what stories they choose to ignore covering. If you really want to go on believing that the writers strike accomplished nothing or that the public doesn’t care about what happened or that it had no effect on them, you are free to do so (that mainstream media conditioning is powerful stuff). And while it’s true that the part of the public living in California may be less inclined to support a second strike thanks to the acute economic pain there (which has been building for a long time and has many more causes than an entertainment industry work stoppage), there are a lot of people who can relate to what the actors will be striking for assuming they even have to strike. Which they may not have to…assuming the AMPTP is able to deal with the realization that they have to pay people something for their work. Which is what we’re all still working for even it it doesn’t pan out.
But I still wouldn’t bet the public won’t support what the actors want from their negotiations.
This is simply a culture clash between a moderate group happy to have continued employment working in an expanding market, and a more hard-lined, insulated, and elite older order unhappy with working in their shrinking market. It’s economics – the market has been shifting in the last ten years, and the AMPTP knows where to go to find it.
SAG must really be crushed over the suspension of Phase One. Here’s what Brian Hamilton, moderator of the SAG ACTOR bulletin board, redesigner of the SAG website (with Justine Bateman), and MembershipFirst stalwart had to say about it on his forum:
“… appears to be no chance that AFTRA will begin its talks by the time SAG starts its negotiations April 15. ”
and we will still get the Soaps — starting with Bold and the Beautiful. Let the decimation of the lying poaching scumbag union known as AFTRA begin. Bring it on, mutha-fukkaz!
Classy.