IATSE, AMPTP CONCLUDE THREE DAYS OF NEGOTIATIONS
LOS ANGELES, Apr. 9 -- IATSE and AMPTP have concluded three days of productive negotiations on a new Hollywood Basic Agreement. The parties held extensive discussions on new media, minimums and the pension and health plans, including the impact of the 2006 Pension Protection Act on funding standards. IATSE and AMPTP have agreed to recess the negotiations to accommodate previously agreed-upon bargaining sessions with SAG and AFTRA. A news blackout will remain in effect until the conclusion of the negotiations."These talks have been extremely helpful in understanding the fundamental issues before us in an environment that has been conducive to bargaining," IATSE International President Thomas C. Short said. "We look forward to the resumption of negotiations with AMPTP and to securing a contract that will benefit our membership."
"We've covered a lot of ground in an opening round that's been both respectful and mutually beneficial," AMPTP President Nick Counter said. "We remain confident that we can build on the new economic partnership that we've reached with DGA, WGA and the AFTRA Network Code, enabling all of our creative and behind-the-scenes talent to share in the emerging new media revenue while giving the industry the flexibility needed to adapt and change in a challenging marketplace."
The IATSE is an International Union that represents members employed in the stagecraft, motion picture and television production, and trade shows industries throughout the United States, its Territories, and Canada.
Joint IATSE/AMPTP Statement Re Talks
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Comments On Deadline Hollywood are monitored. So don't go off topic, don't impersonate anyone, don't get your facts wrong, and don't bore me.
Does this affect the Editor’s Guild?
Does anyone have any guesses (informed or otherwise) as to the likelyhood of a SAG strike? like “I give it 70% chance of strike”…. ?
Most working SAG members I know (and have worked with over the past month on TV shows) are hoping that a strike will not happen. It is sincerely hoped that both sides will find a way to make a deal before the end of June. It is also hoped that the hardline rhetoric isn’t thrown around to the point that we saw through the winter. We’ll have a better idea once the talks finally begin on the 15th.
Although I believe SAG leadership wants to use a strike as negotiating leverage, because of the following factors I find there to be less than a 5% chance of strike:
*Current economic and political climate in SoCal, would create a very bad backlash against SAG striking now
*Current SAG / AFTRA in fighting, would leave SAG very vulnerable to a shift from SAG to AFTRA by producers as well as actors
*Anti-strike positions taken by many SAG actors, would further dilute SAG’s power to pull-off a successful strike
None of the factors alone would prevent a SAG strike, but together it would make a successful strike next to impossible.
Dear Intrigued,
You couldn’t be more wrong.
If we have to strike we will, if we are offered a bad deal then that is an option none of us are ruling out.
Your points are simply stated as fact when they are your opinion.
There are no anti strike positions being taken, there were some high profile stars who urged talks to happen soon to save their films and prevent a de facto strike. SAG had to go through their process of wages and procedures that they always due before negotiations. I sat in on a lot of those meetings did you???? No one is worried about a backlash, everyone seemed worried about our ability to continue to make a living and earn our insurance. Even actors who are hurting due to the strike and only seeing the week ahead, are going to be in shock if we don’t get a good deal so we can make a living in a few years time.
Our leadership has the burden to explain this, if god forbid we do have to put the vote to go out.
You’re other point is also incorrect as even if producers went to AFTRA they don’t control as much of the work. The AMPTP HAS to work with SAG.
They are the ones in control of if we strike or not. It is up to them to give us a fair deal, go into the talks with an open mind about what that might be, and
prevent any further delays in our business. We have seen from the dealings with the WGA that it may take a shutdown to make that happen. Most of really hope they
show up ready to deal and help us all keep working. But if they don’t I don’t know of any actor that is going to lie down and take the WGA deal as it stands. We walked those lines as well, we took financial hits, and the fact we are last doesn’t mean we have to take crumbs.
Good to know. So the negotiations are about residuals and the internet? I’m not sure why SAG would worry so much about contracts for residuals since it seems to me they don’t go after the residuals already owed under the current contracts. Now I could be missing pieces of the puzzle here but I know a number of actors who are on T.V. all the time and claim they rarely see the residuals they are owed on certain projects. Particularly foreign sales and DVD sales. Only when they know enough to call SAG and harass them about it. I am no expert about any of this so please correct me if I’m wrong but it’s my understanding that it’s SAG’s job to track residuals?
sagmember,
first of all in the very first sentence I said “I believe”. I didnt state anything for a fact. I gave my opinion and supported why I felt the way I did. You can disagree if you like. But if you were here during the writer’s strike I was dead on with almost ALL of my predictions. This is all a business game whether you realize it or not… let’s just see if I am right or not (WE WILL KNOW IN LESS THAN 2 MONTHS)
Why do I think the IA negotiations are going to go something like this:
NICK: Hey, Tommy boy, this is the deal we want. Coupla rollbacks for editors, a major F.U. for animation writers. You know, the usual.
TOM: Nice. Where do I sign?
NICK: On the dotted, sweetcheeks.
Tom signs.
NICK: Perfect. Here’s your big bag of money.
TOM: Ah, money. Pretty, pretty money. What do we do for the next three days while we pretend to bargain? Golf and booze? Or whores and blow?
NICK: Why not all four?
Exeunt all, laughing.
sagmember, your anger, while evident, does not mean that it is echoted by the many working actors, standins, and background artists with whom I’ve talked over the past month. To a person, they all expressed their wish that the Membership First group in SAG would find a way to make a deal, most likely by mid-June. And all recognized this would be a modified version of the DGA/WGA pattern.
The WGA Strike was marked by a lot of people who fanned the flames of the conflict, most of whom turned out to not even be in the WGA. Most working people in the business have voiced an honest concern that next week’s SAG talks prove fruitful, without the overheated rhetoric we saw last fall.
And even the friends I have on the SAG committees have told me a different story. One in particular spent much of our conversation trying to figure out why the W&W’s hadn’t been worked out until such a late date.
Translating Tom Short’s official statement:
“I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.”