UPDATE: A Fox spokesperson issued a public denial tonight. ”The Defamer.com story about the Studio banning CAA from the Fox lot, is categorically untrue. The exchange, which took place well over a year ago, between a Fox executive and a CAA agent — that supposedly triggered the ‘ban’ — never at any point escalated to the level and language as reported on Defamer.com.”
The gossip website Defamer today is running word-for-word with a CAA-Fox story which an anonymous tipster emailed me two weeks ago. But the website failed to do what I did: I checked it out exhaustively, and, even though I’ve come down harder on CAA than any media outlet over the years, I found that the facts weren’t anything like the story which the tipster was passing along. In fact, the truth was not newsworthy. (I’m not linking because the Defamer blogger who wrote it gets paid by the page view. So don’t reward someone for inaccurate info…) That’s also the same gossip website and blogger that recently reported erroneously that Tracey Jacobs was leaving United Talent when she wasn’t. Yes, reporting on Hollywood agents would be so much easier if only pesky facts didn’t get in the way. But here’s what really annoys me: supposedly reputable news outlets and reporters are now picking up erroneous information from gossip websites like Defamer. This is wrong on so many levels that I’m dismayed. Which is why I’ve decided to go behind-the-scenes of one such egregious and recent example of a showbiz reporting inaccuracy:
Back on April 9th, I broke the somewhat stunning news here that superstar Robert DeNiro had left his longtime talent agency CAA. At 10:54 PM that day, an anonymous comment signed “A CAA Agent” was made to my post (see #11). I had no way of knowing whether it was written by a CAA agent. Because of that, I never would have dreamed of making it part of DHD’s editorial section. But other reporters did, to my shock.
Two days later, on April 11th, Defamer (via Stu VanAirsdale, the same gossip blogger who made the errors above) picked up the comment, erroneously claiming in the headline that a “None-Too-Bitter CAA Rep Has Some Choice Parting Words Of Advice For Robert De Niro”. In the body of the post, Defamer claimed the comment had been written by “an anonymous CAA operative” without ever verifying that.
Enter Anne Thompson, who on April 15th erroneously wrote on her Variety blog that “an ’anonymous agent’ from CAA posted this online comment on the departure of Robert DeNiro [sic] which is now getting emailed all over town”. She linked back to the Defamer item.
On the morning of April 21st, Patrick Goldstein prominently reprinted “a venomous response purportedly from one CAA agent that was e-mailed all over town” in his LA Times column about Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. He even lent credence to the comment he reprinted. As his source, he linked back to Thompson’s Variety blog.
Indeed, the LA Times‘ involvement is particularly unsettling — not just because of Chuck Philips’ recent reporting meltdown (that necessitated a retraction of his very wrong story that Sean ”Diddy” Combs orchestrated an attack on Tupac Shakur), but also because of the newspaper’s own sourcing policy (that will now result in written reprimands and reduced raises if violated). But I alerted both Goldstein and his editor Betsy Sharkey about his column’s inaccuracy, and both have refused to correct it. What does this say to readers? Especially when Goldstein is about to start blogging daily.
Then, on April 30th, Slate.com’s Kim Masters excerpted what she claimed was “a memo, supposedly created by an anonymous CAA agent in the wake of De Niro’s recent departure from the agency [which] has been pinging around the Hollywood blogosphere for a couple of weeks now, but we pass it along in part…” She linked to the Alternative Film Guide blog whose Andre Soares at least correctly sourced it back to an anonymous comment on DHD.
And so it comes full circle.
I’ve since confirmed that not one of these reporters went to CAA and officially asked about the random Internet comment that originated on my site. As CAA spokesman Michael Mand told me with a sigh: “Anyone can claim to be whoever they want on the Internet.” One CAA partner was especially outraged over Goldstein’s inaccuracy and fumed to me, “The blurring of it all is astounding, anonymous comments cited as sources. Everybody is so damn desperate to be relevant and beat the Internet that it’s making good journalists betray themselves.”
I couldn’t have said it better.
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.







So will Defamer ever respond to either this post or to CAA’s correction? Dang.
A problem with the Defamer model of “reporting”, where anything juice is reprinted pretty much verbatim from the anonymous email it showed up in, is that people in Hollywood are all basically gossipy starfuckers. Everybody wants to feel like they have a good story that they’re the first to tell at the party.
In real life, I’ve seen this happen many times. Totally fake stories being spread around because they make the spreader feel important.
Sure, this has always been a problem, but with the explosion of blogs that claim to “report”, it’s just gotten worse. A certain kind of person is DYING to have his or her “anonymous tip” show up on Defamer/Gawker/Perez/TMZ.
I can’t believe that Defamer can just get away with claiming that a named exec called another named exec a certain word. Retraction? No sir. (Or maybe they’ll run one on the post itself once it hits page 9 of the archives.)
I used to read Defamer but gave it up the day Lisanti said good bye. I see it as someone else mentioned a roundup of entertainment news. I might have outgrown the evilness of the Perez dirtpile but I did love the humor of the old Defamer gang, from what I understand now, its just slightly above TMZ. So I do it old school, read the online editions of several papers, hit a few blogs for the spin and truth at times and then decide for myself.
I don’t know the back story for the CAA-FOX story but I am sure that every single studio has at one time or other wanted to ban one of the agencies. So what. How did it become big enough to get to the LA Times?
LA so needs a relevant newspaper.
I wasn’t aware that anyone still read Defamer.
As many have said about our once-respectable media over the last few years: Matt Drudge rules their world.
I understand the comments about Gawker in general, but to be fair, Defamer is the WORST of that bunch. Poorly written and obnoxious as all get out.
This puts “Insider Information” in a whole new light. Are comment sections now considered “insiders”?
Also, I have to assume that anybody that refers to “Hollywood Blogs” hasn’t figured out that said blogs reach beyond the borders of LA.
Un, not to defend Defamer, a site that nobody should defend, but I’m interested in this world you inhabit in which you can walk into the offices of a firm like CAA and ask, “Hey so did any of you guys say this stuff about Robert DeNiro on my blog? As an anonymous commentator?” and they will promptly tell you the truth.
You think if that had really been somebody from CAA they would:
A) Have left their real name on your blog?
B) Admitted that they were the anonymous commentator?
C) Given you or anyone else the permission to report as much on your site?
I’ll be here grooming my unicorn under the magic rainbow while you mull that over.
You do have a point though that all these people should have made a bigger deal out of the fact that this was an anonymous commentator who, as that shocked CAA person you contacted noted, can make things up as they like.
Welcome to web, everybody. It’s only been around for years.
and why would a caa agent write a letter so eviscerating to Pacino and Jon Avnet, current caa clients?
la times is the absolute worst,due in no small part to p goldstein…
Unfortunately, any such behavior occuring between 2000 through the end of this year can also be described as “downright Presidential.” E.g.:
Defamer = Bush/Cheney
Followers = Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, Networks
Nikki = Bill Maher
Let’s hope President Obama can instill new standards, not just among Tinseltown criers but across the board. Because when you look at the big-big picture, Defamer et al are simply hailing the chief.
NICE!
Excellent article. Truth be told if a ban were to happen it would be the other way around. CAA would and could Ban FOX from ever producing another project and likely turn the whole studio in an Enterprise Rental Car parking lot in about the same time it would take Tom Cruise to save some stranded motorist off the 10 FWY!