I give TV and movie fans a lot of credit: when they get mad, they scare the crap out of the moguls. That’s happening at Lionsgate where the studio’s phones and email accounts are jammed with angry fans for the past week. They’re making a stink because new Lionsgate topper Joe Drake appears to be dumping all of ex-prez Peter Block’s movies. That includes Midnight Meat Train, the adaptation of the Barker short story that’s a fan fave. Supposedly the trailer tested higher than any film in Lionsgate history. But when Drake took over, he promptly bumped Midnight Meat Train from its May 16th release date. The result was that Rogue Pictures’ The Strangers (which was skedded two weekends later) had zero competition in the hard-R category. And guess who was exec producer of The Strangers? Joe Drake.
Then, the websites, Shock Til You Drop and Fangoria found out Lionsgate is planning only a 100 theater run on August 1st to merely fulfill the contractual obligation with Lakeshore Entertainment. The plan is to release the DVD immediately after. So fans are asking if Drake is such a dummy that he’d intentionally sink what to them is a sure-thing hit. And they want to know if the studio that was built on horror gross (both the gory and cash kinds) is going to bite the hand that’s fed it so well in favor of four Tyler Perry movies a year.
The result is a lot of anti-Lionsgate blogging in Horrorville by fans, by self-appointed horror flick experts, and also by Barker himself. ”I would passionately encourage everybody who cares about my work to use this chance to change the minds of the folks at Lionsgate,” Barker, whose Midnight Picture Show company co-produced the film, recently stated on the Clive Barker’s Revelations website. “I really think, this late in the day, that grassroots support for our movie could significantly improve our chances of reaching a much bigger audience theatrically.” Lakeshore, too, is pushing hard. Midnight Meat Train is described as a cold, unyielding but also stylish slasher film that relishes exploitive gross-out gags. Not my kind of pic, to be sure. Especially when director Ryuhei Kitamura making his U.S. debut promised as much gore, if not more, as Saw and Hostel. So I’d be a hypocrite not to applaud Lionsgate for wanting to move away from extreme hard-R. On the other hand, Lionsgate is far behind in studio market share right now. In the meantime, given the active imaginations of Clive Barker fans, I have this image in my head of Jon Feltheimer under the desk crouching in terror every time the phone rings…
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If Joe Drake isn’t releasing it, it’s because he doesn’t think it’s going to serve his company financially. He’s a pro and he’s done a lot of Horror movies. Probably as crappy as its title is absurd.
Um, this commenter is either Joe’s mom or Joe himself – either way, please refrain from judgment if you haven’t even seen the film!! And every movie’s title is absurd until you see the film and associate it with a cool flik.
This is a really boneheaded move from the studio that released BRATZ on over 1500 screens and still thinks Dane Cook is the Next Big Thing.
MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN didn’t cost much ($15m) to make, the script is unsettling, it’s directed by a stylish Japanese filmmaker (he made the acclaimed cult hit “Versus”) and has Clive Barker’s personal seal of approval, something that he hasn’t given in a long time. The buzz is strong in the horror community and for good reason– Barker’s source material is sharp, scary and genuinely unsettling.
I know that companies routinely throw out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to new regimes, but in a summer when the only true “horror” movies are the dire THE HAPPENING and MIRRORS (the action-oriented HELLBOY II and THE MUMMY III don’t count), this movie — something fright fans have been looking forward to for months — is the real deal. Horror fans are constantly crapped on by narrow-minded producers and idiot executives who think remakes and sequels are all that the genre has to offer. It would be wise if Drake, whose very studio still exists because of its genre offerings and who’s foisting SAW V on us this fall, to treat the fans with a lot more dignity and respect and give this a decent release.
It sounds like Joe Drake is suffering from a bad case of Toby Emmerichitis, in which you badmouth (or in this case, short-sheet) horror films even when the genre is your studio’s bread-and-butter and your rivals are raking in the bucks with these films behind your back. Smart move, dude.
Joe Drake seems to have excellent business sense. Shelving a $15m movie that’s bound to make a profit is the same kind of wise decision it was to paper all of Los Angeles with promo posters for THE SPIRIT, a prloject with absolutely no built-in audience, nearly a year before that movie’s release. I eagerly await BRATZ 2, with supporting roles by Lionsgate mainstays Jason Statham, Dane Cook, Jessica Alba and whatever WWE flavor-of-the-week Vince McMahon foists upon the studio.
@Comment by tf — June 18, 2008 @ 11:42 pm
Oh man, you forgot to add the “/sarc” tag at the end of your post because you can’t be serious.
I saw the latest AFI special the other night, and saw that they went out of their way to avoid giving a Top Ten Horror films list (while including such obscure “genres” as Sports and Courtroom Dramas).Hollywood’s long-standing bias against a “Disrespectable” genre that has been one of it’s financial bedrocks has always been obvious, but it seems to have become moreso lately.(Admittedly, the specter of “torture Porn”- a trend that has already burned out because the FANS have rejected it- doesn’t help the genre’s image; but it’s pure hypocrisy to pretend that the majority of crap turned out by the studios isn’t pandering to one audience or another- from SEX AND THE CITY to LORD OF THE RINGS.) Hollywood would work better-both as a business AND an artform- if these stupid games would just stop…
Would a new exec strangle a rival’s picture to advance himself? “It’s the smart move,” as they say. That being said, “Strangers” is a deeply disturbing experience. If that’s your ‘thing,’ you might see it in a theater where it really works you.
Nikki, I must say that I’m stunned that you’re giving this story any coverage whatsoever, given your rants and screeds against films like this in the past. Have you seen the trailer for the film, or read anything about it? It’s horribly violent, misogynistic, and flat-out gross. I’m ashamed of you for supporting it in this manner.
Now why would Lionsgate limit release a film like this to over 100 cinemas? Of course August is known as the bad hohum month for films but Lionsgate execs should’ve considered a much wider release. Now did finacing have something to do with this? I don’t blame horror fans turning on the company this way. But limit release a film that could be a profitable box office could only make one wonder in this case. I have several wonderful Lionsgate releases in my dvds in my collection.
Joe Drake is a VERY smart man and terrific sales agent. He knows what he’s doing.
But then again he’s giving Drew Barrymore her directorial debut and made Mr Magorium’s Wonder Emporium, so what the hell do I know.
“I’d be a hypocrite not to applaud Lionsgate for wanting to move away from extreme hard-R.”
So there’s no room for a genre beloved by fans?
We are a nation at war and, as such, we need the cathartic release only horor can provide. Of course today’s horror is particularly violent, it is a relfection of society at large. Prvious films that “offended” (DAWN OF THE DEAD, THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, etc) are now not only considered classics, but the remakes of these films are flooding prodco’s with cash and a new audience hungry for new ideas. What will we remake in twenty years if there are no new quality horror films today?
MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN is tracking through the roof and a studio is going to dump it out of spite? It’s not only bad business for Lionsgate, it’s bad for Hollywood at large and a real blow to fans.
SUPPORT ORIGINAL R-RATED HORROR!!
RELEASE MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN ON THOUSANDS OF SCREENS!!
BURN LIONSGATE TO THE GROUND!!
Drake is a moron who shelved all of the scripts at Lionsgate when he took over. Pete Block was doing a great job there. Too bad they didn’t realize it. I know Feltheimer and can say with 100% certainty that he is a short, Napoleonic, egomaniac.
A $15m budget on a horror film with such good buzz among horror fans is the perfect recipe for a quick buck as you are going to get. I think there should be a clause in every studio chief contract that any decision that puts ego over money is grounds for immediate dismissal with no golden parachute.
What’s this Drake fellow’s worry, that if the film does well they’ll bring the old guy back or something. You release the film, take credit for its profit, blame any losses on the last guy, and pocket your check.
If you were looking for logic in this decision, look no farther than the fact that Drake bumped this horror film to make room for his own, THE STRANGERS. I’ve only worked in Hollywood for a dozen years, so I’m a neophyte compared to Drake, but I have learned one thing: the movie business has nothing to do with the movie-going public, or even the movies themselves. The only think film execs are ever concerned with are their own careers.
I’ve seen the film. There is no conspiracy here. It’s unreleasable. Straight to DVD level filmmaking.
The trailer tested high? When I saw it in the theaters, EVERYONE wa laughing their asses off. “Midnight Meat Train” may be the worst name ever for a movie. Ever.
The Horror, the Horror.
This is why we end up waiting for good movies to come out on DVD and have to sift through all of the crap they show at the theaters to find a few nuggets. Political maneuvering by executives focusing on their selfish ego, rather than on the quality and merits of their finished products.
The actual source of the news is a website called Bloody-Disgusting.com you should probably credit them.
Man this sucks. The source story is incredibly scary and Barker’s name is gold to serious horror fans.
I’m sick of horror films and fans getting screwed over– even George Romero’s well-regarded Diary Of The Dead had a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it release. And funny how Drake’s own movie — one that made a lot more than anyone expected — just happened to benefit from him shifting the competition away from its release date. It’s too bad about Creek and The Burrowers– both are supposed to be good.
I know nothing about the movie, but I saw two trailers in the theater, and people laughed at it both times.
As someone who has seen both the laughably stupid “Repo!” and the kind of “ho-hum” “Midnight Meat Train,” I can honestly say that these would get killed in the marketplace. $15 million for the picture and another $15 million to market “Meat Train” wouldn’t get the thing to $30 million at the box office. Joe Drake is making the right decision by going limited release and straight-to-DVD. Way to go, Joe!
With “Repo!,” Lionsgate did Bousman a solid in return for “Saw IV,” but they knew from the “songs,” from the pre-production “art” and from the fact that no one would get close to acting it based on script quality that it would not be something they could really get behind with any kind of release.
The so-called “horror press” clamoring for this is the most easily bought-and-sold of all the geek press with standards lower than Harry Knowles. Bousman invites them to a party at his house and they spend the next three years announcing how much of a genius he is, praising the unwatchable “Saw IV.” Bousman is no master of horror, no Cronenberg, more like a latter-day Renny Harlin with plenty of “Mindhunters” and “The Covenants” and re-shot “Exorcist IV’s” ahead of him. That is, if “Repo!” doesn’t completely sink him.
If you don’t believe me, go back into the archives of some of those horror-geek sites and see how much they hyped up the mediocre Eli Roth or the unwatchable “Hatchet” – another movie where a director kissed a lot of ass for positive reviews claiming his movie was “too extreme” to get into theaters, prompting a similar write-in campaign, resulting in a ton of fans realizing they’d been had when they finally got a chance to see the dreadful movie.
“Burrowers” should not, however, be lumped in with those two. Different animal completely.
I have seen the film, and not only is it great, but the gore doesn’t come to near the level of Saw or Hostel. It has the pace of a thriller with some intermittent gross out gags, and the end is gory, I will give you that, but they cut a lot of the super-gore out. Why does the industry crap on us true adult horror fans who want to see R-rated films? Look at how well most horror films do, then they crap on the fans who fork over their money to see the films. It’s like being sweet to your girlfriend while you screw her sister behind her back.
Yeah, they’re all pros. They never make a mistake, or let their egos get in the way. That’s why BRATZ did so well.