Personal manager Rick Seigel sent this email around Hollywood today:
To all personal managers:
This morning some fifty Los Angeles-based personal managers listened to Doug Allen (SAG executive director) and Alan Rosenberg (SAG President) talk about their current labor negotiations at the Guild’s Wilshire Avenue headquarters.
Obviously, of most concern was the potential of a strike. While they will not assure us that striking is off the table, Doug and Alan both made it clear they are trying to do everything they can to accomplish their objectives without a work stoppage.
They voiced hope that the proposed AFTRA contract will be rejected, believing that plot twist would provide them more leverage in their talks with the producers.
My belief is that every personal manager should support them in that effort, and here’s why:
AFTRA contracts have historically been less beneficial to the Actors, that’s not news. But what’s changing, because of the new production and distribution technologies, is jurisdiction.
Jurisdiction determines which union the producers work under. According to what SAG told us today, currently 95% of scripted television and 100% of films are done under SAG contracts.
But just as they used the changing technologies to make inroads with basic cable, AFTRA can use the new technologies to compete for jurisdiction for new projects in virtually every arena.
And who will pay more to SAG when they can get the same actors for less money with AFTRA?
No one. Let me give you an example of the import of this vote. I had a client who starred in a SAG show, basic cable. In his first year (2001) he was paid $10,000 an episode. With SAG residuals, that 10K became 16.5K over time, a nice annuity.
Though the network continued to plead poverty, THAT’S SO RAVEN changed the channel’s fortunes: THE DISNEY CHANNEL can now be found in 40% more homes and has made a fortune through DVD and download sales of his and the network’s subsequent series (SUITE LIFE, HANNAH MONTANA... and that’s not counting the concert tours.)
In 2006 my client agreed to star in the RAVEN spin-off at a starting salary of $15,000 a show, under a contract that allowed them to choose their actor’s union after we signed on.
Disney chose to make the new show AFTRA. Including AFTRA residuals, that $15,000 a show stayed right there: $15,000. He has not received and does not expect to see any future monies. So instead of being paid 50% more than what he made back in 2001, he was making less money six years later after making the network tens and tens of millions of dollars. (No, they did not do anything about it, no matter how hard I fought, and you know I’m willing to fight pretty hard if I think I’m right about something.)
On AFTRA projects the monies paid in for P&W are less, everything’s less beneficial to the actor. So if AFTRA ratifies a cut rate plan, your clients will make less. Those who count on residuals will find themselves needing to leave the business, if not today, tomorrow. Those who are counting on their pensions, well, count again.
So while personal managers have our issues with SAG — something that Doug Allen promised to address as soon as these negotiations are completed — in the name of doing best for our clients I urge you to recommend to all AFTRA members, particularly those with dual membership, to vote NO when offered the chance to ratify or reject the proposed contract.
I do not take my email list lightly. I realize to date I’ve only written about the Talent Agencies Act, and I only wish to involve personal managers with correspondence that is best for our profession. You will not get any BE AN OBAMA MAMA or VOTE FOR ME, MY FRIENDS, I’M JOHN McCAIN missives from me. But as this is about the futures of your clients, it is also about your futures, so I hope you will receive this in the spirit of which I intended.
I have had continual behind the scenes talks with both SAG and AFTRA about this (and of course, the Talent Agencies Act) over the last few years, and I can say this with a sad but strong confidence: AFTRA’s efforts are for the benefit of the organization, not its members.
Spread the word,
Rick Siegel
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As I have said before on other posts, AFTRA is only low balling to stay alive as an organization — not to help its members. The only way AFTRA can stay solvent is to gain more TV production, no matter the cost to its members. This means that AFTRA is not negotiating for its members but for itself. What kind of union is that?!?!? It makes you wonder just how those AFTRA board members sleep at night knowing they are dragging everyone down.
SAG, on the other hand, is negotiating for its members. The organization actually cares about its membership.
The only way to save this situation is to vote NO on the AFTRA contract. Send e-mails to all your actor friends that they must vote NO. When you’re in workshops, at auditions, in class — tell them to vote NO.
Assuming there’s a NO vote, SAG saves the day, and the AFTRA contract works out for the better somehow — we’ve got to seriously figure out how to get AFTRA out of the actor business. They’ve got to go. They are screwing with my livelihood in both direct and indirect ways. How do we do that?
SAG Hollywood “leaders” defeated themselves when they refused to deal with AFTRA effectively over a year and a half ago. AFTRA was willing to settle jurisdiction, but these SAG “leaders” thought they could bully, bash, and bend AFTRA to their will. It didn’t work. These inept SAG “leaders” are 100% responsible for the present situation, and for them to now attack the deal that AFTRA has successfully bargained is anti-unionism at its worst.
Here we go with the pot-calling-the-kettle-black anti-unionism charge again. So I’ll repeat again: yes, that makes perfect sense! The people arguing for better terms for the unions are the anti-union ones. The ones willing to take a crappy deal to steal jurisdiction and remain relevant, those are the pro-union guys. Thank you for clarifying!
Good lord, could you be any more transparent.
Oh please. AFTRA hasn’t tried to settle anything. Even brokering by Guild NY Board members couldn’t accomplish what needed to be done. For S.A.G. to hardball after AFTRA’s lowballing, seems only fitting. Regardless of how all this dustup over the AFTRA referendum concludes, actors should wake up and realize that AFTRA is not truly looking out for them.
“Tom”
I’m sorry, which part of the AFTRA deal would you consider “Successful?” Seriously, I’m all ears, because I didn’t know that basically signing on the dotted line at the expense of your membership is an indication of success. You’re coming off either as an AFTRA or AMPTP shill, or, your head is in the sand. NO ONE wants a strike, but let’s not call a sow’s ear a silk purse, please.
My friends – when you see SAG sign the same contract you will change your tunes. When WGA signed the same contract they could have done without a strike.
By the way, Paul, that little S dot A dot G dot is an MF board member signal giveaway. Get real. It’s “SAG”.
It’s about time the Unions brought managers and agents into the fray; after all, it’s their commissions that will be reduced by AMPTP cutback on creators’ incomes. It’s like the old story of the actor who phoned his agent and gleefully said, “Instead of paying me money, the producer says he’ll give me a Cadillac!” “Oh yeah?” the agent responded. “What’s my commission going to be, a set of tires?”
Wow, Tom, lol! I’ve changed my mind. I don’t think you’re a shill; now I think you’re a 14 year old with a keyboard and juice box. At least the shills know which facts to distort. The “WGA signed the same contract they could have done without a strike.” Really? Is that before or after the 70+ rollbacks originally being “offered?”
Question: If these issues are really no big deal, why aren’t you prodding the AMPTP to simply sign and avert a potential strike?
“My friends – when you see SAG sign the same contract you will change your tunes.”
Curiously, were you writhing your hands before you typed that, lol?
WHATEVER…The actors should be happy to work, way too many actors in this town for us to have ANOTHER strike. WHATEVER…SAG SUCKS BALLS
Right on!
Isn’t that the truth! SAG SUCKS!!!!!!
They are over paid puppets!