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Both George Clooney and now Tom Hanks have denied a Screen Actors Guild board member’s unofficial email to members that the two Triple-A list actors have joined the side of some dual cardholders lobbying and rallying against ratification of the AFTRA deal with the AMPTP. In turn, SAG’s critics are using Susan Savage’s erroneous email to claim that the message came officially from SAG.
This morning, the PR firm 42West, which flacks both Tom Hanks and AFTRA, issued this statement to the press: ”Further to the false report spread by SAG that Tom Hanks and George Clooney personally called Alan Rosenberg to offer their support, here is a statement from Tom Hanks: ”Someone name [sic] Susan Savage has used my name in a letter, suggesting I have taken the position of not ratifying the new AFTRA agreement. This is a hoax, not true, a complete fabrication.” Earlier, Clooney issued this denial as well: ”I have had no conversations with SAG concerning that issue. Any reporting to the contrary is false.”
(By the way, 42West denied “unequivocally and on the record” to me just now the rumor floating around that it is sponsoring that whack-job website SAGwatch.net. Funny thing — I didn’t even ask the question. ”42West has nothing to do with SAGwatch, financially or otherwise. Anyone who tells you anything different is seriously misinformed and/or lying.”)
Enough is enough. Let me first make it clear that I believe any SAG effort, official or unofficial, to convince dual cardholders to deep-six the AFTRA deal with the AMPTP is a ridiculous waste of time. On the other hand, SAG can’t be expected to control the opinions or actions of all its members, and apparently not even its board members. But any official effort by SAG to help organize these guild member efforts against smaller AFTRA should be stopped immediately.
So what is SAG doing officially on this matter? SAG claims it is not now engaged in an official campaign to defeat ratification of the AFTRA contract. But is that true? I’m told that SAG leaders Alan Rosenberg and Doug Allen recently made the rounds of all the moguls to articulate two agendas: 1) that SAG’s talks with the AMPTP are hopelessly stalled and the Hollywood CEOs need to insert themselves just like they did with the WGA talks to reach a contract. And 2) that SAG is angry that the moguls negotiated seriously first with AFTRA and not with the bigger actors guild. But one of the moguls who took the meeting told me, in answer to my question, “Yes, they said they were going to fight the AFTRA deal”. So either this is an anti-SAG disinformation campaign, or this really happened. I believe the latter.
Regardless of the leadership’s position, it’s certainly true that some very vocal SAG-AFTRA members, including SAG board members among the 44,000 dual cardholders, are really angered by the AFTRA-AMPTP deal. Specifically, they’re upset about what they see as the terms of AFTRA agreements in the past (bad basic cable deals, residuals giveaways, low day rates, lousy one-time-only pacts, etc), all the nonsense that led to the termination of the two guilds’ joint bargaining agreement, and the weak terms of this new AFTRA-AMPTP pact that contain few improvements. And then there’s how AFTRA’s NYC contingent, including Reardon, skeddadled without briefing SAG as soon as the AMPTP deal was done so SAG couldn’t go into its 2nd round of negotiations up to speed. “But more than anything, [these] actors are pissed about AFTRA’s leadership excluding SAG observers, compromising SAG bargaining and then – insult to injury – lying about it,” one source explained to me. “AFTRA’s negotiating committee admitted just days ago that they had purposefully excluded SAG’s observer from more than 2/3 of the negotiating days. Like I said, SAG-AFTRA members are pissed and they want action. They feel, as the email writer [Susan Savage] did, that if the institution doesn’t act, they have no choice but to do so.”
I’ve gotta say, this is wrong-headed. I don’t care who did what to whom anymore. Move on.
The AFTRA-AMPTP deal is done. Yes, it’s lousy. But stop crying over spilt milk. SAG’s membership needs to harness all its activism to supporting its leadership in the stalled negotiations with the AMPTP. Which is why I’m now calling on SAG, at today’s National Executive Committee on the progress of the talks, to come out of that meeting with a statement to members urging the cancellation of any ad hoc activities opposing the ratification of the AFTRA-AMPTP deal.
If the SAG panel wants to issue a formal statement opposing the deal? Fine. It’s a free country. But it would be wrong for Monday’s 10 AM rally at SAG National Headquarters, which unlike what the trades are saying, is supposed to be a show of support for the guild’s negotiating committee up against the AMPTP, and not an anti-ratification free-for-all, to degenerate into AFTRA-bashing. It’s counter-productive at this point.
UPDATE: *Also, SAG leaders need to exercise more control over their board members. The WGA enforced discipline, and SAG needs to do this as well. That Susan Savage email ending with a line indicating that George Clooney and Tom Hanks had expressed their support for the anti-ratification effort flew around town, along with a few phone calls I assume, and ultimately ended up posted at the SAGwatch.net website run by some anonymous anti-SAG dissidents. Calls were apparently made to George Clooney and Tom Hanks to confirm their support for AFTRA opposition (not clearly stated this way in the email as you can see), and their publicists or they sent statements to various press indicating that they have not expressed any opposition to the AFTRA contract and weren’t supporting such actions.
Here’s the thing: Savage’s email was not sanctioned by SAG. The member’s characterization of the rally is not SAG’s characterization. The line about Clooney’s and Hank’s support was not written in context. It turns out that Savage did not mean to imply that the two actors supported opposition to the AFTRA contract. Rather, the intent was to let members know that the pair supported the Screen Actors Guild in its negotiations because my info is that Clooney and Hanks and I’m sure many many oither Triple-A listers had expressed directly to Alan Rosenberg their support for SAG going in to negotiations. That’s a far cry from how Savage’s email read. She should never have sent that email precisely because she is a SAG Board member so her messages bear more import. See what happens as a result?
SAG leaders need to shut down all unauthorized email communications to members by the Board.*
In turn, AFTRA needs to shut up already about SAG, including all that propaganda about how SAG’s so-called “Membership First” leadership clique is causing all the current trouble with AFTRA. The two guilds need to stop meddling in each other’s internal affairs. And how fucking needy is Roberta Reardon for slobbering wet-kiss press? I found it so embarrassing that the Los Angeles Times bestowed on the AFTRA president that nauseatingly uncritical profile all the while ignoring the news in my many posts that have shown AFTRA to be both the catalyst for bad behavior towards SAG but also in the AMPTP’s hip pocket. Just more proof of the LA Times‘ awful union coverage. (Like the fact that the LA Times only now gets around to reporting the fact that the studios and networks won’t pay up on millions and millions of force majeure moolah owed from the writers strike — when I first reported on May 6th and again on May 14th that the Screen Actors Guild had already filed arbitrations to get the payments. Ugh…)
What’s past is past. And, in this case, past is not prologue. As I’ve said repeatedly, what AFTRA does shouldn’t affect SAG. After all, in the realm of scripted entertainment, it’s puny. While SAG accounts for 100% of motion pictures and about 90+% of television, AFTRA had just 3 network scripted series total under this primetime TV contract (and one of them, ABC’s Cashmere Mafia, has been cancelled.). But AFTRA has been crowing about reeling in a few pilots this truncated TV development season. So I sense concern inside SAG’s leadership that AFTRA is going to further encroach on SAG’s jurisdiction by using as a come-on its new AMPTP deal, which continues the union’s shameful history of compromising actors over the years with contract terms inferior to SAG’s. (Ironic, since Reardon et al falsely claimed it was SAG’s alleged encroachment on AFTRA’s soap operas that caused her to abruptly end the two unions’ joint bargaining agreement). I also sense some misplaced concern inside SAG leadership that dual cardholders may not stay loyal in the very unlikely event of a SAG strike. But that SAG card is the most coveted among actors, and that’s not going to change anytime soon. So let AFTRA continue having the inferiority complex.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: the SAG-AFTRA warring is nothing more than a Big Media mogul’s wet dream. Isn’t there enough Hollywood CEO porn already?
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.


Sigh…
SAG needs new leadership immediately! And I thought WGA handled their negotiations badly. Compared to SGA, the WGA look like geniuses.
Is there an inncoent explanation for Savage’s email? And was Savage purporting to speak for SAG? Who got the email? Is it going to be posted here?
Clips? I did a sitcom as a regular for 4 years – you can see entire episodes on Veoh and other sites, with CBS’s cooperation and investment in Veoh from people like Michael Eisner. No money, not even asking for permission from me. Entire episodes – free! 44 billion dollar profit last year for Hollywood, but now, everybody but stars gets scale. Stars get obscene pay packages and points while their “union” brothers and sisters can’t pay the bills. AFTRA poaches SAG shows, giving actors a third of the salary and benefits, the AMPTP pleads “no business model” for the internet, yet their top dogs (Sumner Redstone) are on record saying it will be a major source of income for shareholders. Producers are trying to squeeze profit through an increasingly small window, because above the line costs (stars) take up 50% – sometimes more – of a movie or TV shows’ budget, so they want concessions from the rank and file to further make it a two tiered industry: the Walmart workers, and the stars. The stars they HAVE to pay (until they don’t – then it’s under the bus), the rest of us? “Scale – take it or leave it.” SAG says we need a fair deal so actors can pay the bills (the average actor makes 40k a year, according to Rosenberg’s testimony before congress during the WGA strike), the industry paints the demands as “radical.” Wanting 8 cents on a DVD instead of 4 (since the ’80′s, with no “revisiting” of the issue by the suits – as they PROMISED at the time) is “radical.” Wanting a tiny percentage of internet revenue off our work, which protects producers (show does well? it’s still a tiny fraction. show doesn’t do well? it’s still a tiny fraction) is “radical.” Make no mistake – the AMPTP is trying to break the union, while pulling in 44 billion in ’07, up from ’06. The “stars” want the right to vote for the rest of us. If they get it, guess what their vote will be? “Business as usual,” no strike. They have no real NEED for SAG – they never have to work another day in their lives. Their GRANDCHILDREN will never have to work a day in their lives. Some “union.” The whole thing is a joke, and the ONLY way actors will get the money they deserve? (money IS respect in Hollywood) is to tell the AMPTP “you don’t play ball? Make a reasonable deal? We STRIKE.” We’re all marching to the tar pit anyway – why be the first dinosaurs in?
The MeFirst attempt to cover their behinds on the Susan Savage e-mail is patently unbelievable. But for once I have to agree with you – trying to defeat the AFTRA contract is stupid.
It’s far better than you state, though, and whoever told you that the AFTRA negotiating committee “admitted” intentionally excluding SAG observers is full of beans. Nobody did it, and nobody “admitted” it.
The one member of the committee who’s out on the record is David Basche.
He’s sent around an e-mail that’s on sagwatch.net –
FROM DAVID BASCHE
Dear friends, actors, and actor’s-union members,
Please take a minute and read this email – I’m writing it because I was a member of the AFTRA Primetime Negotiating Committee, and this is very important to me, and I strongly believe it’s important to you, too.
I hate long winded emails, but this one is crucial, and as you read, keep in mind that I WAS IN THE ROOM. So…
In the coming days you will likely begin to hear negative attacks on AFTRA’s tentative contract reached on May 28th after three long and difficult weeks of negotiation. Why? Well, there’s a selfish political faction of LA SAG that I don’t think really care about you; they’re just determined to push for a strike. Do YOU really want another strike right now? I know I don’t.
So, I am here to tell you that that we won a great contract with increases in pay (10% in minimums over the contract term!), better working conditions, retained consent over clip use in New Media, and confirmation of jurisdiction in New Media, too.
I assure you that these increases are FAR greater than the AMPTP wanted to agree to, and were achieved only because we did not back down and stayed focused, calm and strong on the members behalf.
* You will be told “it’s not enough!” Well, I think it’s damn good, more than expected, and some of these increases are the first in almost a decade; hard won and well deserved.
* The contract has contract transparency, and “sunsets” in only three years. That means we can–with all the knowledge gained from access to the AMPTPs paperwork over the next three years–go back to the table informed ad armed.
* This time around, members told us they were most concerned with retaining clip consent and increasing working wages, so we held fast and achieved those.
* Reality will be twisted, and you will be told that “AFTRA’s committee doesn’t work, and they make worse deals than SAG!” Nope, wrong again. First of all, AFTRA’s Primetime Negotiating Committee was comprised of 31 working performers like me, from series regulars to VO professionals to background performers and singers and dancers – who by the way are all dual card members. And second, is AFTRA getting less money for you? NO, they are getting more work for you, which means money for you. AFTRA will negotiate and has negotiated what it terms “initial” deals on productions which may contain rates lower than the SAG basic cable pattern contract. AFTRA makes such “initial” deals in order to combat runaway production outside the United States as well as capturing what would otherwise be non-union work. And by the way, the other templates AFTRA uses can and have resulted in payments to actors that are HIGHER than the SAG basic cable pattern rates.
So please, don’t be swayed by divisive language or emotional rhetoric. Don’t be pushed into a corner by those seeking only to “win,” instead of seeking to work and thrive. And don’t hesitate to email me with any questions about what you’re hearing or what’s true and what’s not. Remember, I WAS IN THE ROOM.
Thanks for caring enough to read this. As a “species,” I feel we actors must be involved and educate ourselves about union matters and prove that though we are artists, we can also be formidable business people to be respected and taken seriously.
SIncerely,
- David Alan Basche
Unlike the Savage/Hanks/Clooney hoax, that one’s for real.
Well said, and informative. I don’t agree with all of it, but it shows the way forward – get the best deal possible and then approach the big issue which is the division on labor’s side of the table while the conglomerates sing the same tune.
Internet replays of shows aren’t free under Exhibit A or the AFTRA network code. They have a residual structure.
The only free plays are those by the pirates…and the deal is designed to cut down on piracy by setting up a method by which the companies and the actors get paid for their work.
Nikki has the facts right.
However, I would like to take issue with some of her opinions.
The proposed AFTRA contract is not a done deal unless it is approved by the membership. Unless the membership approves the deal, it is not “done”.
If, after careful consideration, AFTRA members come to the conclusion that the proposed contract does not serve their interests, they should vote it down.
Monday morning’s rally at SAG HQ (and AFTRA’s Los Angeles offices) at 10 a.m. is intended to demonstrate the deep concerns many many actors have about the specifics in the AFTRA deal. The goal is not to vilify or destroy AFTRA, far from it.
If AFTRA membership nixes the deal, which I hope they do, then AFTRA leadership returns to the table with a mandate from their membership to negotiate a deal that does not allow the studios to fund non-union projects employing principal actors, that does not leave individual actors twisting in the wind when it comes to clip use consent, that does not give away New Media residuals at a time when the networks are already migrating the distribution of their content to the Internet.
In negotiating a two-tier system for principal actors in New Media – some are union, some are non-union – AFTRA has failed to keep union work in the union, which is the most basic of union functions. For this reason alone, the proposed contract is a travesty.
AFTRA members have this one opportunity to send their leadership back to the table to make this right. For their own sakes, and for the long-term viability and relevance of their union, I hope they take it.
As a rank-and-file member, I strongly oppose the AFTRA-AMPTP deal.
That deal seriously weakens the bargaining position of S.A.G., which is trying valiantly to stand up to the ruling moguls represented by the AMPTP.
To address only one feature of the proposed contract:
AFTRA minimums are unconscionably low. A 3.5% first-year increase really doesn’t begin to turn around the disastrous erosion of the average actor’s standard of living.
A vote against ratification of the contract is NOT a vote for a strike.
A No vote simply tells AFTRA’s leadership to go back to the table do a better job on behalf their members.
George Clooney and Tom Hanks could earn our lasting gratitude and respect by standing with their sister-and-brother actors against ratification of the AFTRA contract.
Dave Clennon
This was just posted at my blog, and I hope this helps to clear things up:
From Susan Savage, via sagwatch
Quote:
I apologize to Mr. Clooney and Mr. Hanks for any misunderstanding that has occurred.
I was happy to hear that they were in contact with SAG President Alan Rosenberg and were supportive of SAG in its negotiations.
I never stated that George Clooney or Tom Hanks supported any action with respect to AFTRA, only that they had spoken with Alan and were supportive in our negotiations with the industry.
Respectfully,
Susan Savage
Anyone who thinks AFTRA works for actors doesn’t work AFTRA contracts. We can’t shut up about AFTRA because the AMPTP keeps throwing their stupid acceptance of a horrible contract in our face, telling us we should accept the same…And then The Hollywood Reporter, Variety and the evening news report on how SAG is being difficult. We need a fair contract or we need a strike. Don’t be scared actors. With the current contract that our so called past leadership accepted, we may as well have been on strike for the last three years! Our current leadership is fighting hard for a fair contract. We actors feel it, see it, and know it! Get educated or Shut UP! And if you are a celebrity, get behind the union that helped you get the security you are now enjoying. We need you!!! I want my Health Insurance back… Stop asking SAG not to strike and start asking the AMPTP for a FAIR contract!
“Enough is enough. Let me first make it clear that I believe any SAG effort, official or unofficial, to convince dual cardholders to deep-six the AFTRA deal with the AMPTP is a ridiculous waste of time.”
“Any official effort by SAG to help organize these guild member efforts against smaller AFTRA should be stopped immediately.”
“I’ve gotta say, this is wrong-headed. I don’t care who did what to whom anymore. Move on.”
“I found it so embarrassing that the Los Angeles Times bestowed on the AFTRA president that nauseatingly uncritical profile all the while ignoring the news in my many posts that have shown AFTRA to be both the catalyst for bad behavior towards SAG but also in the AMPTP’s hip pocket.”
So are you a journalist, an advocate, a playa… what?
You want your health insurance back? Get a SAG job.
Oh, wait…that job was exported to Canada because Membership First doesn’t think real actors want to work cable shows, unless they get top dollar.
Obviously you’re not a real actor. Just ask them.
By the way, while you’re on strike, you don’t earn health credits.
“A vote against ratification of the contract is NOT a vote for a strike.” (Dave Clennon, above) In theory, that is correct- a “no” vote means that the membership rejects what has been negotiated, and wants the NegComm to go back and get a better deal.
Yet the last Aftra referendum in which I voted, NetCode 2008, there were two boxes to check, and though I may not recall the exact wording, the scare tactic was obvious:
Aftra ballot basically stated:
1. Vote Yes; you approve the contract
2. Vote No; you are authorizing a strike
Yes, the “S” word was mentioned on the ballot. No wonder actors are confused and scared. Their own Federation is manipulating them.
“move on”
but that’s just the point.
As actors you have to work in the future under that bad deal. YOU CAN’T MOVE ON.
THAT”S WHAT A CONTRACT FOR FUTURE WORK MEANS. YOU ARE BOUND BY IT.
It isn’t a negotiation event that happens and is over.
It s CONTRACT that governs work for the FUTURE.
If that horrible AFTRA DEAL is ratified WE CAN’T MOVE ON.
90% of SAG’s membership does not even make their living via acting. Their primary source of income is generally outside of the film industry. They can easily sit out a long strike without negatively impacting their livelihood.
Personally, I am sick and tired of people, that for the most part are either hobbyists, or waiting to win the movie star lottery, screwing with my livelihood. Enough is enough.
CHILDREN CHILDREN, WE ACTORS HATE BEING CALLED THAT BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE APPEAR TO BE IN THIS NONSENSE
RE: SAG VS. AFTRA
AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS LAUGHING AT US ALL. WE DIMINISH OURSELVES IN THEIR EYES.
STOP ALREADY!! I KNOW THAT MR. MCCORD HAS BEEN FANNING THE FLAMES OF FIRE AGAINST AFTRA FOR YEARS NOW AND GOTTEN YOU ALL FIRED UP. LET’S FACE IT THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE ON THE HOLLYWOOD BOARD WHO HATE AFTRA. THAT IS A FACT. I’VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYESS AT EVERY SAG MEETING I’VE EVER BEEN TO. WHY DON’T WE JUST IGNORE THAT FACTION AND LET THEM STEW IN
THEIR OWN ANGER. WHO CARES IF THEIR FEELINGS ARE HURT BECAUSE AFTRA GOT A CONTRACT FIRST. THEY BROUGHT IT ON THEMSELVES BY THREATENING TO END PHASE ONE. DOESN’T ANYONE REMEMBER THEY WERE THE FIRST ONES TO BRING UP THAT
SUBJECT. NO WHERE IN THE SAG EMAIL ABOUT MONDAY’S SOLIDARITY RALLY DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING AN ANTI AFTRA CONTRACT. IF THAT IS THE CASE I WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE THERE.
WHAT A PUBLIC EMBARRASSEMENT TO MY PROFESSION THAT WOULD BE.
ALSO HAS ANYONE NOTICED THE NUMBER OF SAG ACTORS GOING
FINANCIAL CORE AND MAKING A GOOD LIVING? I FIND IT APPALLING!
AT LEASET AFTRA IS TRYING TO REIN IN THAT WORK.
Like it or not, the DGA ‘set the pattern’. If Doug Allen understood H’wood bargaining, he would have had SAG go first and set that pattern. Instead, we heard the constant justification for his brinkmanship theory of negotiating – unless you’re up against the deadline, ‘it’s collective begging, not collective bargaining’. BS.
SAG has painted itself into a corner through it’s lack of strategic planning, bullying of AFTRA & its sheer arrogance.
And now that the SAG NEC has authorized $150K to fund a campaign to defeat AFTRA’s TV contract, which they say they won’t spend if AFTRA doesn’t send out it’s ratification ballot until SAG’s negs are done — can you spell blackmail??? — SAG has gone over the cliff.
Politics of destruction, utter waste of member’s dues at a tme of a $6.5 million deficit, blackmail attempts that will leave SAG reviled by the greater labor community……it’s a tragic fall for a once-great institution.
Dissappointed,
Thank you for the reminder to us all that SAG has tried to end Phase One for almost a year, before pushing AFTRA to pull the trigger. And it was not out of hurt feelings, for God’s sake.
Be clear…..Monday is the kick-off rally for the anti-AFTRA campaign.
They’ll call it ‘educating dual-cardholders’..but you can’t put lipstick on that pig.
SAG has all the clout in the world…..the movies, almost all the PT entertainment…..what is it whining about? Grow up and get a deal done that keeps members working, shows in LA and doesn’t further the destruction of the LA economy.
Connie
Now that AFTRA has a contract, SAG needs to realize that is only helping the studios make the decision to make shows for television on the AFTRA contract instead of SAG. Now that things are going digital, AFTRA can regain all of television. In the old days that is what is was, AFTRA was TV and SAG was movies, and that is what is going to happen again if the SAG membership doesn’t wake up to the realities of the business. Even if by some miracle they managed to get a better contract for TV, no one would use it because AFTRA is cheaper. If you don’t believe that will happen, ask all the crew members of Ugly Betty how cheaper elsewhere affected their jobs. Just like productions go to other countries and other states to save money, they will also go to other contracts to save money. And there are WAY too many hungry actors in this town to ever have an effective campaign to not work under that contract. For every role, even under an AFTRA contract,…there are hundreds if no thousands of actors who would kill for that job.
So tell SAG to get over their hurt feelings and bad planning and make a deal to the pattern already established. Also remember that the SAG board members themselves are setting themselves up for personal liability in a lawsuit by AFTRA for interfering in their ratification process. An expensive person proposition in bad economic times.
Dear DGA UPM,
Wrong.
SAG was founded in 1933. The forerunners of what has become AFTRA date from about 1937.
AFTRA did not start with TV and SAG with movies. SAG has always had 100% of motion pictures and the majority of scripted television.
AFTRA started as AFRA — a RADIO union. It was then merged with the Television Authority, and was awarded jurisdiction in live television — including variety shows, talk shows, live productions, etc.
While I sort of enjoyed your troll-like efforts at revisionist history, your facts are all wrong.
SAG has been and always will be the actors union.
It is the union with jurisdiction in all scripted product. Film, tape, disk, card, jump drive, infrared signal or whatever, acquisition and delivery method do not matter — It’s SAG’s.
AFTRA covers live and whatever else they can steal from SAG while they are in bed with the employers and actors aren’t paying attention.
Dear S. White,
Informed and insightful. Thanks very much.
Over the last couple of days I have been bombarded by emails and also a prerecorded call from Sandra Oh of Grey’s Anatomy urging me to vote against AFTRA’s deal, so you better believe that SAG is using our dues for divisive campaigns. I’m a dual card holder in Chicago and I am made tired by both sides of this fight but somehow, SAG always seems to outdo itself in pissing me off. Perhaps if SAG and AFTRA had merged we wouldn’t be having these conversations…
I agree. With incompetent union leaders squabbling like brats…DECLARE FINANCIAL CORE and get rid of these lunatics running your business life.
—Harry