I’m told that Disney and Pixar are going to push hard for a Best Picture Oscar nomination for Wall-E on the basis of its anti-toon moody darkness and rave reviews by critics who matter. Certainly many toons have tried for that high honor over the years, and then settled for ”just” a recently added Best Animated Feature nod. Only one animated movie has made it into the most competitive Academy Award category — Disney’s Beauty And The Beast in 1991 — but, alas, didn’t win. But that may not be the obstacle in Wall-E‘s way. No, I’m hearing the problem may be Andrew Stanton’s arrogance in that interview in last Sunday’s New York Times:
“Stanton, who wrote and directed the film, doesn’t care if the kiddies want to hug Wall-E or not when the movie comes out on Friday. ‘I never think about the audience,” he said. “If someone gives me a marketing report, I throw it away.’” Because them thar’s fightin’ words in the movie industry. “Half of Hollywood went, ‘You’ve got to be kidding!’ ” a bigwig Hollywood marketer said, echoing sentiment heard within the Industry. “Nobody can say, ‘I don’t care what the audience thinks’, especially when making a mainstream movie for families. Nobody can live outside the envelope like that. His disdain for the audience was really obvious.”
Ah, I love the smell of nastiness at the start of Oscar season. Smells like… controversy!
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I haven’t seen Wall-E yet, but it seems like a great movie based upon word of mouth and the positive reviews.
Pixar is overdue for a best picture nomination. It’s too bad that Wall-E like Ratatouille will probably be put in the animated feature category.
Pixar as a whole has ALWAYS created movies without aiming at what audiences think, and they have NEVER been afraid to say so. They make movies that THEY want to see, what THEY care about and what THEY find exciting and interesting. That is not arrogance; that is creativity.
So-called Hollywood marketers wouldn’t know what creativity is without dollar signs stamped on it.
If success depends on what Hollywood marketers think, Pixar would have been another Dreamworks. Thankfully, Pixar is always will be Pixar.
If AMPAS nominates WALL-E it would become shockingly in touch with the home viewership.
to quote Bill Hicks, “people in marketing and advertising need to kill themselves.” i couldn’t agree with him more. we don’t need these people to dictate what the general public should enjoy and buy. i have to deal with these people at Warners and the things they come up with to “sell it to the people” is absurd, to say the least. it’s bad enough that i have to conform my work to satisfy them half the time.
I wouldn’t count on it but WALL-E deserves a nomination for Best Picture.
That “arrogence” of Stanton is not arrogence at all. He says he “doesn’t care what the audience thinks.”
He kinda right. After all, the audience grows more narrow-minded as time pass. They want entertainment, not good storyline. WHat do audience these days know about “profound” movies?
I love to see WALL-E get nominated for Best Picture. Actually I think it deserves a win.
Also, there was wonderful sound editing and mixing by Ben Burtt, he might even deserve a Special Achievement.
And there was a beautful score by Newman. Derserves nomintaion.
Most importantly, Stanton derserves a win for Best Original Screenplay. Beautiful storytelling, beautiful originality.
But what makes those voters discriminate animated movie?
WALL-E FOR BEST PICTURE.
The reason animated movies are discriminated is this: Nearly every year, one of the best picture nominees is a british film. This year it was Slumdog Millionare.
Personally Iwould have wanted the big prize going to either a cute robot(WALL-E or a caped superhero(The Dark Knight) rather than a man aging backwards (The Curious Case of Benjamin Button), a corrupt president (Frost/Nixon), a gay activist (Milk), a Nazi slut (The Reader) or the winner of an indian game show (Slumdog Millionare.
Whatever oscar hype WALL-E had was stolen by The Dark Knight.
WALL-E should have won original screenplay as WALL-E was an original story, whereas Milk was based off a true story.
That totally emasculates Marketing, relegating it to where it should be — marketing the movie, not attempting to co-create it. And IMNSHO if the marketing peeps want any sort of creative input into a movie, they should quit their markeing jobs and go into directing, writing and producing and if not, they should shut the hell up about the creative dimensions of the movie until it’s locked and their marketing whiz is by actual definition supposed to come into play.