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UPDATE: I've just confirmed that Quentin Tarantino is talking to Brad Pitt to star... And Harvey Weinstein will produce it with Lawrence Bender...
EXCLUSIVE: Quentin Tarantino has just gone out with his long-anticipated script about World War II. I hear it's gone out to Universal, Warner Bros, Paramount, and Sony. Not only is Lawrence Bender attached to produce Inglorious Bastards, but here's the weird thing sources are telling me: Harvey Weinstein also will be producing as well but not financing it though his The Weinstein Co wants to distribute it domestically to pocket the fee. This certainly adds fuel to those rumors that The Weinstein Co is having movie money woes. 
After all, one of the ways that The Weinstein Co attracted investors was by hyping its creative connection to the Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill 1 & 2 writer/director who has long made a lot of money for a lot of people. But will Harv's investors profit from the connection? Let's not forget that The Weinstein Co produced and financed Quentin's last pic Grindhouse/Death Proof that tanked at the box office because of Weinstein's own admission that he erred in releasing it in the U.S. market as half of a too-long 3-hour, 12-minute double-feature. (UPDATE: QT and Harvey Weinstein lunched very visibly at Ago on Melrose today. Just in case anyone thought they weren't working together...)
This latest Tarantino epic, originally for Miramax and originally set for 2001, has been so long in the works that some people thought it might never see the light of day. Tarantino himself has described it as a Spaghetti Western meets World II film that's an homage to 1967's The Dirty Dozen and its derivative, the more extreme 1978 Italian movie Quel Maledetto Treno Blindato (released in the U.S. under the title Inglorious Bastards) about a group of soldiers on their way to be executed who get the chance of a reprieve. Tarantino's script comes out just as the Enzo G. Castellari inspiration is heading to DVD. In a BBC documentary done around the time of Pulp Fiction's release, Tarantino said that he always wanted to do a "guys on a mission" film. As usual, there's a lot of secrecy surrounding this Quentin project sent out by William Morris.
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This will be a rental for me. No more interest in his stuff.
I heard that the script is so long they’re going to have to split it into two movies like Kill Bill, which makes me nervous. Tarantino has talent, but not much self-control, and Harvey Weinstein seems intent on indulging him like a favourite child, and I’m having visions of what could be a super-cool movie turning into Grindhouse with Tommy Guns and SS stormtroopers.
I hope it turns out better, but it might be wishful nostalgia for the days when Tarantino was the wunderkind and not the enfant terrible.
In a book Tarantino was described as a “One Trick Pony by a female producer”…leading to her co-author and fellow producer, an older man, being attacked by Tarantino at a restaurant. Tarantino has had his chances, but absent the co-writing talents of Roger Avery and certain respected producers…his post Avery works, appear less than spectacular…seemingly proving that female producer correct.
It is time for Hollywood to find its new Tarantino…whom ever that may be. The package won’t be the same, nor the accolades and achievements…but unique within said accomplishments. We must realize for every generation, there are talented people that go discovered, like Spielberg and Tarantino, but many who do not, because when Hollywood finds one wunderkind, one toast of the town…they tend to stick with them to the exclusion of others. Nothing wrong with loyalty, I appreciate it and encourage it…all I’m saying is spread around the opportunities.
Tarantino is not Hollywood’s great last hope, there are many out there I am sure…but very few will ever get the break needed to open the door by all of the Inglorious Bastards running Hollywood!!!
14:57 ….14:58….14:59- I think his 15 minutes may be up. since Pulp this guys hasn’t delivered the goods (unless you consider Kill Bill great! I don’t) His dialogue has been terrible in his films and lets face it- the best parts of Pulp were the Boxer and that was written by Avary….. He reminds me of the guy who hit the 3 pointer to win a game in high school and somehow got a scholarship
So Clayton…if you’re not interested in his stuff, why would you even rent it? And, why would you comment on it on a message board? And why would you read about a post about it? And, do you think renting as opposed to buying a ticket somehow hurts his marketability? It all shows up on a ledger somewhere…
Grindhouse was unwatchable.
Grindhouse was a lot of fun, but this will be nothing like it. I really do not understand the haters out there. Quentin has never made a bad movie!
Also Quentin was quoted more recently as saying that this will be approx. the same length as Pulp Fiction, not two movies.
I’m confused. Isn’t this a remake of a 70s film?
Not sure why this taken so long to go into production…
Quentin writes great dialogue but I think he’s officially out of ideas.
I have no interest in seeing this psychotic’s fantasies on film.
does anyone watch this idiot’s movies anymore? he’s a washout and should have called his career after kill bill. let’s hope harv finances it so they both go broke.
Hey, I hope that Quentin IS indulged by the powers that be.
Yes, I agree, that “Grindhouse” should have been released as two separate movies (sitting through the first part, “Planet Terror” so exhausted me that I couldn’t sit still for “Death Proof”) but we always have DVDs. And I learned to appreciate both of those two halfs of “Grindhouse” from happening upon their quadzillion rebroadcasts over HBO’s dozen channels while surfing.
The studios don’t have a clue what makes Quentin tick and if they get any creative control over editing or dictating of time length of his pictures they will just interfere with what makes him great.
Please don’t ever “leash” Quentin as it will be a sign of the Apocalypse.
I agree with Layne. The guy is incapable of original work. Everything is derivative and an “homage”. Enough already! Make a film without having to watch others for inspiration.
Tarantino has no talent, he doesnt have an original idea in his body. Oh, his stuff is “great” to people who have never seen an old trashy movie before, his stuff is so derivative and obnoxious and empty.
The movies Tarantino makes are bad/low budget movies from the 70s blown up to big-budget size with a lot of self-indulgence and pop culture references.
The stories lack characters for whom you can care and seem more focused on coming up with the most clever dialogue.
Hmm, well I strongly disagree with some of the other comments. I rate KILL BILL as high as PULP FICTION (although not for cultural impact of course), I loved GRINDHOUSE (both halves: good trash fun) and have been looking FWD to INGLORIOUS BASTARDS for years. Can’t wait for casting news.
Clayton,
Then why rent it???
“an homage to 1967’s The Dirty Dozen and its derivatives with a story about a group of soldiers on their way to be executed who get the chance of a reprieve”??????
Geez, this is so bad, it’s unbelieveable.
Bring back “Glen or Glenda”, with Q in the title role. I’d like to see him in a thong!
The problem with Quentin is that he never tries to be original anymore, all of his work since Pulp Fiction has been homage after homage after homage. Make an original picture agin man
The bloom is definitely off the Tarantino rose. I doubt he will be given carte blanche to indulge his Dirty Dozen homage. Also is he going to score a WWII flick with seventies tunes, could be done but not sure it should be.
Pavel Penguin food critic for The Ancient Times
I love Q’s movies and can’t wait to see the war flick. You Q haters forget Reservoir Dogs, True Romance, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill Vols. 1 and 2, Jackie Brown. These are all classics.
QT has never made a bad movie, Death Proof was excellent on a stand alone basis and I appreciated the DVD cut much more than the theatrical release.
Jackie Brown was no snoozefest either, a great movie.
I look forward to all his movies and an offbeat WWII movie with cues from the Dirty Dozen movie sounds good to me!
Jesus Mike,
EVERY film is derivative to some degree. Buy a brain. Yeah, Kill Bill is derivative of Kung Fu movies. But you know what? Most people (including myself) never watched those crappy foreign Kung Fu movies. So Kill Bill was entertaining for those that appreciated the homage… AND was something new for those that never watched the originals. Not everyone is blessed with your all knowing insight into all genres of moviemaking.
“The guy is incapable of original work.” Jeez… did you really say that? It would be like saying you’re incapable of original thought because you “agree with Layne.” Actually… I’m leaning in that direction. So let’s find out. Did you see ALL his movies and THEN decide he was unoriginal. Or, in keeping with your “opinion,” you HAVEN’T seen all his movies and you’re just SAYING he’s unoriginal. Which is it? ‘Cause either way, you’re snowing somebody. Probably yourself.
Are you going to be dissing Speilberg, Lucas and Coppola in other forums for THEIR homages and unoriginality? (Indiana Jones? Pfft! Done in the ’40s. NEXT!)
Not liking Tarantino is one thing. Many don’t and it’s pretty easy to see why… he makes DIFFERENT kinds of movies. But to suggest he’s “incapable of original work” only shows that you’re an idiot that can’t even properly express your opinions. Or lack thereof.
This should be classic—
1- No one wants war movies right now
2- Can you see Robinov giving Tarantino final cut? I cannot.
3- Can you see Paramount or Sony actually working with Harvey voluntarily? I cannot.
4- They aren’t rumors- Weinstein is out of the film biz.
5- I have to call shenanigans on the Bender of it all- he and Tarantino had a very acrimonious split three years ago.
6- My guess is that after some embarassing studio passes (why not send it to Searchlight?) Relativity uses their funds to make it and loses their shirts.
Pulp was great. Jackie Brown was very good as well. Dogs was fair but highly overrated except for Keitel and Roth. I started Kill Bill 1 and had enough. Same stylized formula everytime. He’s simply past his prime as a filmmaker and the dialogue has gotten really bad the last number of years. I agree with the above, without Avery he is not too much anymore. Unless something that looks spectacular comes out in the next 5 years or so, I’m done with him.
His stuff does pull from various other sources for inspiration, but it is always original. You’ve never seen another Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill… they borrow some ideas but all artists are inspired in some way… he is inspired by movie making in general. He takes risks and has some misses, but overall we should all be thankful he’s out there doing his thing if you enjoy being entertained.
Pulp was his peak, but you have to give Kill Bills their credit. Grindhouse was an interesting project but not great. The man has talent but I agree it is time for a new ingenue. Let’s be honest, with all the period pics due to start polluting the scene, we don’t need Tarantino to throw in a quirky, talky, drawn out, WWII pick–and that is really the only thing he knows how to do.
I can’t imagine what kind of films the people posting comments here enjoy, but Quentin’s are top rate as far as I’m concerned. Kill Bill was the best movie I’ve seen since the 90s, at least the best American one.
boy, i detect alot of jealousy here. quentin is not half of a roger avery writing team. he wrote true romance and reservoir dogs solo and for that i dont believe his talent can be questioned. and i really enjoyed kill bill vol one.
i will agree with some what of you guys say about quentin needing someone to keep him in check. on pulp fiction, he had roger avary. on true romance, he had tony scott. i found kill bill vol 2 to be insanely boring and detected too much of the writer’s voice in the character of bill; also, the tone did a 180 to that of a reflective western as opposed to the frenetic anime and kung fu vol 1. death proof was just really, really boring. a plot that didnt go anywhere, dialogue that didnt matter or was interesting on its own.
im excited to see inglorious bastards though. i think when he taps into asian and european movie influences for his movies is when he’s at his best.
The man is a “freak”!
Pulp Ficton was a good movie. His others…pretty stupid. Tarantino is a one hit wonder.
I like Tarantino. Yeah he rips stuff off–but at least he admits it. He’s made a few movies I don’t like (Jackie Brown, Death Proof)–but he’s got a pretty decent record IMHO. I just hope he’s ripping off a better source this time!
As I wrote in my blog post in response to this news, I think this is a positive development that might bear a big opportunity for the development of this movie.
This is why it’s unfortunate when The Drudge Report links to Nikki’s site. You get a lot of right wing, red state, conservative republicans opining when they normally wouldn’t even come here. Don’t get me wrong, I fit many of those criteria myself but some stereotypes are around for a reason.
Someone above asked “why all the haters?” Isn’t it obvious? Would there be so many complaints had Tarantino’s career took the route Avery’s did?
Some of the best films in the history of movies have been derivations from other works, so that cut-n-dried argument–which implies such flicks are automatically somehow lesser–is a load of crap.
I think the Roger Avary argument would hold up a little better but, you know, the guy wrote SILENT HILL. And the rest of his flicks aren’t anything with a personality or skill comparable to Tarantino’s best work.
Anyway, people have been talking this kind of smack about Tarantino since Reservoir Dogs, claiming he was forgotten after Pulp Fiction, seeming to conveniently forget that Jackie Brown is regarded as a masterpiece in a lot of respectable quarters, that Kill Bill 1&2 were very successful, and he can still attract top talent and can probably do whatever he wants with his films from this point forward. Bitter fanboys should stop quoting jealous screeds penned over a decade ago by forgotten 3rd-rate producers because nobody even cares about that feud anymore.
Tarantino’s work is boring, and disgusting all at the same time
Wasn’t the first manuscript featuring Natural Born Killers, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction all written with someone else? Wasn’t that someone else removed from all projects by Tarantino? Has Tarantino done anything even remotely entertaining outside of these three movies, where his input is questionable at best? Maybe Fat Harvey should apologize to the real talent behind Tarantino’s fame, and get him to write some scripts instead of pretending this video store douche has any talent.
Sorry guys I have to disagree. The man is talented.
I initially gave up hope in him after the lackluster “Kill Bill Volume 2″. Volume 1 was excellent and action packed. But 2 was just unnecessary and could have been put in 1.
But Grindhouse was brilliant. At least his movie, “Death Proof” was. His movie felt like a real Grindhouse movie. Robert’s movie was corny, cheesy, and ridiculously stupid.
“Death Proof” had good acting. And while people complained that it had “too much talking” I think that for a slasher film about a guy who kills folks with his car, it had good character development. It is a very underrated and well made movie.
I think Weinstein should rethink a “Grindhouse” sequel. Maybe make it an HBO Original Movie series that premieres with an new installment every Halloween season.
Why don’t you guys go make a movie and stop blogging from your computers hating on Tarantino like a bunch of losers.
Sample Dialogue
Hero — You Nazi bastard, prepare to be killed by this bullet.
Nazi — You only assume I’m a Nazi because I wear this clothing, but maybe I just like the way it feels. Maybe I’m pretending to be a Nazi so I can save my family. I don’t presume you’re the good guy just because you dress in certain articles of clothing that claim that you are on the right side of this struggle.
Hero — I’m not prejudging. You’re boss, sold you out, when I had him tangling over the ledge while giving him a foot massage. And not only is he hot for me, but he’s also a traitor to his people.
Nazi — Thank you for the tasty story.
Keep throwing around words like ‘derivative’ because you think it makes you sound above it all. The fact is Tarantino pours his talent and love of movies into whatever he does and makes eminently entertaining films. If only there were more ‘one-tick ponies’ like him around there wouldn’t be so many instantly-forgettable, filmmaking-by-committee time-wasters made.
Tarantino was, is and always will be among the true cinematic geniuses of Hollywood. These know-nothing cretins whose experience in film making goes no further than making shadow puppets on the wall in front of a flashlight have no idea of what they’re saying, their babbling is nothing but mental flatulence.
Tarantino is not without flaws, he would be the first to admit that, but even Babe Ruth had less than perfect seasons, but the fans who remember him aren’t troubled by his imperfections, they remember the ‘Bambino’, just as 100 years from now the ‘Tarantino’ will be remembered with the same awe and respect.
Don’t like his films? Don’t go see them. Simple as that. Tarantino has made his mark in the history books and nothing that any little weasel has to say is going to change that.
originality in film making is in vision
none of you haters can deny that he and pta have that
of course sometimes not everybody sees what everybody sees…..
meaning there’s gotta be room for you haters to hate
capiche
Whoa. A lot of haters on this post stream.
Ease up. Tarantino is an original if nothing else.
And you have to admit that Kill Bill, Vols. I & II are a masterpiece. Tarantino is a reflection of his generation and our times. He has assimilated information (a voluminous knowledge of film and pop culture) and put it into the blender of his mind and crafted original works that are part pastiche and part fragments of the input reflected back.
Take Kill Bill, Vol. I, for example: The interplay of his use of visuals, narrative clipping, especially the music, genre-bending and blending, and a serious wink along the way and you get brilliant entertainment that is knowing without being snarky.
He is a true craftsman, and even if his stuff is not to your taste, you cannot take that away from him.
Enzo G. Castellari is one of my heroes and I am delighted to see his name used in conjunction with a story about this film project. Enzo, if you’re reading, god bless you and your family, sir. Your movies are a treasure to the human condition!!
Q never made a bad movie! You guys probably like the hollywood dribble. Talk about making the same movies over and over.
Actually, the dialogue would probably be more along the lines of…
INT. TRANSPORT PLANE. NIGHT.
CORPORAL COOPER
She’s standing at a street lantern, for fuck’s sake.
PRIVATE RYAN
Doesn’t make her a whore.
CORPORAL COOPER
Makes her a whore, son. You tell me when you saw a good girl standing at a street lantern, in the middle of the fucking night.
PRIVATE RYAN
She’s waiting.
COOPER SIGHS.
CORPORAL COOPER
For her fucking John, that is.
CAPTAIN JACK.
Fritz.
CORPORAL COOPER
Wha?
CAPTAIN JACK
She’s German. Can’t be a John.
PRIVATE RYAN
Or a Tom or Harry.
CORPORAL COOPER
But sure as hell a Dick.
The others GET IT. They LAUGH.
CORPORAL COOPER
Fucking Lily Marleen.
From the FRONT of the PLANE, MAJOR SAMSON makes his way into the BACK. He’s a BIG MAN. ALREADY dressed for the JUMP.
MAJOR SAMSON
Sure as hell wouldn’t fuck any of you. Most whiny bunch of pussies I ever seen. Come on, Ladies! Come ON! You want to fuck with somebody? You can fuck with the SS, and they better be singing afterwards, you get me?
OUTSIDE, we can see that the PLANE has CROSSED into GERMANY. The ANTI AIRCRAFT CANNONS start POUNDING at EMPTY SKY. The PLANE ROCKS.
CORPORAL COOPER
Fucking Bastard.
PRIVATE RYAN
Bet he never fucked anybody.
“Don’t like his films? Don’t go see them. Simple as that.”
I suspect that more and more people are going to take this advice.
Indulgence, Derivative, and Homage have just begun to induce vomit in me and seemingly already have with most of you.
Man, y’all should be ashamed to call yourself film nerds. Anyone who voices an opinion on a film they ’started’ but never finished should be slapped. For that matter, anyone who starts a film but doesn’t finish it should be shot. Anyone who is a film buff but ‘gets restless’ during a long film…LAME. I just came here from a non-film site link, but man, I’ll never be back. For the record; I sat through Grindhouse twice in the theater and LOVED it! The whole POINT was homage; to accuse him of ‘not having an original idea’ means you completely, totally missed the point.
Why is everyone on here stating that Tarantino is unoriginal? All originality has been exhausted. Pretty much any form of literature or film from the past century has taken its ideas from ancient mythologies.
I’m mixed on Tarantino. Didn’t like Pulp Fiction, although it did have some hilarious dark humor. Jackie Brown was fascinating, and Kill Bill was decent. Lots of gore and profanity, though, and for that reason I’ve never watched Reservoir Dogs. Might someday.
As far as stuff Tarantino has been involved in, I watched Hostel and did not like it. Just too gory for me.
I admire Tarantino’s off-beat ways, especially since it seems these days that to see a really good movie, you have to venture into indie land. Most movies today are too boring and too predictable.
I agree that Tarantino’s dialogue has slipped in quality since his early scripts — among which I would include TRUE ROMANCE, which he wrote without Avary, but didn’t direct. I also agree that his lately sprawling work could use an editor.
However, I by no means agree that he is out of ideas, unoriginal, or without talent. I think these particular charges are misguided.
Look: ALL work is derivative of, based on, or inspired by other work. Homer’s ILIAD inspired Ariosto’s ORLANDO FURIOSO, which, in turn, inspired both JRR Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, both of ‘em medieval literature scholars who absorbed works of that period like Tarantino absorbed 1970s grindhouse and French New Wave cinema. When you’re reading Tolkien, you’re reading a synthesis of influences ranging from Old English poems like “The Wanderer” to Spenser’s FAERIE QUEENE, ORLANDO FURIOSO, JERUSALEM DELIVERED, and THE ILIAD.
The Bard himself, William Shakespeare, drew heavily on other sources (and sometimes plagiarized from) previous works: TAMING OF THE SHREW is an update of several earlier plays, including George Gascoigne’s SUPPOSES, from which it steals characters and an entire subplot. HAMLET imitates THE SPANISH TRAGEDY. Today, Spielberg admits to rewatching movies like LAWRENCE OF ARABIA before making new films, and cites those films as significant influences on his own work. I recall that when Spielberg made CATCH ME IF YOU CAN, he said in some of his interviews that he’d always wanted to make a James Bond film, and when he couldn’t make one of those, he made RAIDERS — a blend of Bond and Lawrence of Arabia.
Even if you think Tarantino is weaker than those auteurs and authors I just named, it’s hard to escape the central point of those examples: Even the best folks imitate — a lot. In fact, I tend to agree with critics who argue that the best writers and film-makers are the best imitators — the ones who imitate good things well, and blend them into original syntheses. Along the way, they add original touches, but they’re essentially collaborating with a host of predecessors.
Tarantino is getting an unduly bad rap about his originality on message boards just because he cites his sources. Most writers and directors don’t. A guy shouldn’t get tarred and feather because he’s willing to give credit to his influences. His work is at least as original as most of the other work I see, including the avante-garde, independent stuff.
If you want to complain that he’s become too comfortable, and that he needs to rewrite and edit more, I’m with you. Agree completely. If you want to accuse him of being unoriginal, I will grind my teeth, listen politely, and think unflattering things about you.
Mr. Tarantino is starting to remind me of Michael Cimino after The Deer Hunter. Like Cimino, he’s convinced that he’s an auteur and anything he does will be brilliant. Maybe Kill Bill was his Heaven’s Gate. Cimino took down United Artists and maybe Tarantino will swing a similar axe to Weinstein’s company. I thought the first half of Deathproof was grade B but after Michael Parks had his 2 minute sequence it came to a screeching halt.
His next movie should be a children’s film: “When Quent Jmped the Shark”.
Tarantino is a hard core fan of film in all genres. Plain and simple. Its obvious in his work (and from his interviews) that he makes movies that he would want to watch and that other people who love watching all kinds of movies would want to watch. If you watched the early “Avery” stuff and loved it and hoping for more and more of the same, you’ll always be disappointed because he doesn’t have a style. He’s like the Bruce Lee of writing/directing. The film style of no style.
Considering everyone knows what an out of control egomaniacal asshole (with zero talent) Harvey Weinstein is, who the hell would be stupid enough to do business with him? I’ll laugh if Tarantino can’t get financing for this due to Harvey grabbing onto his coat tails.
The guy is a genius. You all watch his movies. If you hated him so much, you would stay away.
The only thing Quentin ever did wrong was his partnership with Robert Rodriguez who is one of the worst storytellers working in motion pictures today. Rodriguez should not be allowed to do anything other than post production on a movie. He shouldn’t even be mentioned int he same breath as Quentin.
The Death Proof unrated cut is excellent. I’ve seen so many times now because it’s one of my wife’s favorite movies. It grows on me more and more. It’s a worthy part of his filmography.
Quentin creates a fantasy world and I like visiting it. It’s a great escape.
My only gripe is he hasn’t made more films. I feel the same about PTA in that regard, but then I’m thankful that neither of them are studio hacks knocking out the latest Dodgeball ripoff or Seann William Scott movie.
I’ll wait as long as it takes for them to release their films because I know they put nothing but love into their work.
You say you don’t like Quentin’s films? I counter that you do. What you really don’t like is that you’re not him.
I agree with most of the criticisms posted here.
However, I’d still rather watch Grindhouse than 90% of what’s out there.
When is this guys 15 minutes up? He’s a horrible actor, he’s ugly, and worst of all, his movies SUCK. Time to like this italian POS go. . .be gone, punk.
At the end of the day Q gets to do what he loves best . . . make movies he’s interested in seeing. To crucify a guy whose whole life is cinema for drawing on his vast knowledge of film is a bit – f***** up.
Thomas,
Trying to promote your writing and your website? That is some serious shilling your doing.
What a bunch of douches! I hope some of these comments aren’t being posted by filmmaker wannabes hatin on the man. Tarantino’s body of work is really good and he will be making film for a long time to come. So stop fuckin wetting the bed and make your own way in if you can.
mf d
Correction: In my earlier post, I remarked as an aside that Tarantino wrote TRUE ROMANCE without Avary. In writing that particular statement, it looks like I erred. I now see from IMDB.com that Avary was an uncredited script doctor on this and several earlier Tarantino works.
In my earlier post, I’d remarked that late-Tarantino has talent — which is why I defended him — but badly needs an editor.
Apparently, Roger Avary is that editor.
Kicking ASS
Tarantino’s movies are obviously not made for everyone. He knows what he likes in film, draws from it, and continues to make movies that ultimately entertain him.
Luckily, we have the same taste in movies.
Keep up the quest to make -your- favorite movie Quentin. I’m positive it will be mine too.
For those of you dropping the “no talent..” “unoriginal…”, -get back to your computer solitaire and go see Hancock a fourth time.
“Considering everyone knows what an out of control egomaniacal asshole (with zero talent) Harvey Weinstein is, who the hell would be stupid enough to do business with him? ”
From the fact that he has produced around 200 movies, I’d say a lot of people are willing to work with him. From the snarky, smarmy comments littering this board today, I’d say that Harvey is definitely not the only out of control egomaniacal asshole with no talent.
He’s never made a truly original film. They were all written with someone else, adaptations of other source material, or else an “homage”/ripoff of lesser known movies.
Most of his work is based on other movies, not on real life & real experiences, so consequently they have a sheen of immaturity & shallowness. IMHO, JACKIE BROWN is his most mature work & that was based on a book by Elmore Leonard.
But I wouldn’t mind QT ripping off other filmmakers & authors so much if his movies weren’t so long & boring.
ZZZZZZ….
I would totally watch that movie, Thomas Gerhardt.
Well, I LOVED Grindhouse. For some reason, the kids didn’t want to see it. My students, who love horror and violence, had no interest in it. I don’t get it. Even if it was because of the drive-in style, it was still the same type of stuff they go to every week already. And anyone who complains about the length can turn in their hobbit feet. If it’s good, it doesn’t matter how long it is, and the full 3-plus hours made Grindhouse an event. The most fun I’d had in a long time. But, then, I spent many a weekend at the drive-in with a pizza, a six-pack and friends who all loved schlocky movies.
Tarantino has at least been honest about who has influenced him. Spielberg tried to dress up that mega-mess A.I. as a kind of directorial favour to ‘his pal’ Kubrick who ‘always wanted to do it but sadly couldn’t complete it.’ What a load of crap. Spielberg did it because Kubrick is something he could never be…autonomous, iconoclastic and utterly committed to his ‘art’. Steve loves to make the bucks but the only way he can appear in the same sentence as Kubrick was by osmosis.
Tarantino has gone overboard in both style and production, but I have every confidence he will learn. ‘Jackie Brown’ is movie magic all by itself, and Pulp Fiction was a breath of fresh air. As for Grindhouse, Death Proof was interesting, while Planet Terror (or whatever the hell it was called) stank.
I get really annoyed at some on this thread when they try and justify Tarantino’s increasingly derivative style because, as they put it, “there’s no originality out there, so everything’s derivative. There! See, Tarantino admits he rips stuff off. That makes him a genius. He’s “ironic”". Uh, no.
It’s a pretty lame excuse for Tarantino apologists.
Reservoir Dogs is his best film, followed by Pulp Fiction (which is overrated, though not terrible). Kill Bill is an overlong mess, and Grindhouse is a tribute to crappy movies (and at 3 hours, no less). Tarantino is totally overrated, and this WWII film will be a disaster. It will be an out of control production.
QT is going to bankrupt Harvey Weinstein.
Uh, actually “me”, I don’t really need shilling (which is such a stupid Hollywood word), because my own writing will be in the stores next year, without help from commenting on web sites.
This was just a little fun thing to do for about three minutes as I am taking a break from my own writing.
I like Quentin’s movies for the most part. Well, except Grindhouse, where even the longer version of Death Proof didn’t do anything for me (although I did like the re-insertion of the Sheriff and Son No. Something, which kind of connects it to Kill Bill).
And yes, I am going to see this one, too, in the hope it will be as good as Where Eagles Dare and minus the bad, bad helicopter.
Anyway, it wasn’t intended to whore myself out nor to offend anybody. I wasn’t aware that some folks are so anal that they would try to immediately shit a diamond.
And, uh, at least I sign any comment I do with my real name. Not to shill, but simply because one should do that, always. You know, it’s kind of polite, and since I don’t post a lot anywhere, I think one should treat others in message boards with at least the same politeness as being in the same room.
Trashing QT? Are you folks high on crack? If you don’t like him or his over the top style, OK then thats fine everyone has an opinion. But no talent? Have you seen True Romance, Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill, Death Proof? These are phenomenal movies made by possibly the best director of my generation X. His writing is second to none and im sorry if your attention spans rate in seconds, but I like having something to think about instead of just staring at the screen and pointing at “bright colors”.
You know what I hate? Country music. But you dont hear me talking about how stupid it is and how it doesnt deserve to win grammys because my little opinion matters in the big picture. Truth is tons of people love country music so who am I grade something I dont understand? Fact: the only time people sound stupid is when they dont know what they’re talking about.
Thomas,
Keep directing people to your website and announcing that your “writing will be in the stores next year”. You’re right…that is definitely not shilling.
Love, Robert
I wonder what Tarantino will do for FEET in this new movie. Will we be treated to close shots of grimy soldiers’ feet? The feet of German women? Maybe the dirty, bony, emaciated feet of concentration camp victims? Feet, of course, are the only original element in any Tarantino movie, the only thing that’s really *him*. The rest is all sucked out of the work of other people. Tarantino isn’t a movie director so much as a movie grinder — you shove other people’s movies into one end, turn the crank, and out the other end comes Tarantino’s gooey mishmash. The only way he will ever make a movie that is totally and thoroughly his is if he makes a movie that’s about nothing but … well, feet. Interesting that the only part of his work that’s truly him is the most annoying to those of us who don’t share the fetish that apparently holds him in its iron grip — FEET! The only good thing about the fact that Tarantino is making another movie is that maybe it will keep him from standing in front of a camera and talking, which is even more annoying than having his podophilia shoved in our faces.
Any studio that gives him final cut, more then a two hr running time, and more then $30 million is crazy. The marketing of Grindhouse may have sucked, but so did the film.
Tarantino is alright – I don’t understand the people who hate on him nor the people who gush over him like he’s some sort of prodigal son. He has a unique style – which frankly is more than most director’s can say. So whatever – I’ll watch this if the opportunity presents itself.
Our movie screens are chock full of artless rip-offs (sorry “remakes”) of earlier creative works. It seems as if the last few years have seen nothing but outright mass destruction of the stories that once entertained us and helped to define our culture.
Notice the differences in meaning between “define” and ‘manipulate’; “helped”, and ‘crammed down our throats’.
Hollywood is producing virtually nothing whilst reducing everything they touch into an overpriced bumper sticker slapped on the ass-end of any random Prius in Malibu.
They’ve even managed to transmogrify the Star Wars franchise into a friggin’ Sesame Street simulacrum of their wish-fulfillment fantasies. Starship Troopers anyone? I f’n Robot? Omega Man? Planet of the Apes?. Everything they’ve touched that was once good, they turn to crap.
Having said that, I for one am looking forward to Inglorious Bastards and Tarantino’s take on the kick-fascist-ass genre – which probably means the doddering fools staggering around with their diminishing moneybags in ‘Hollywood’ will likely do whatever it takes to square it into their banal circle-jerk.
I can see the result of the sausage machine now: A crack contingent of the ‘Fighting Watermelon Brigade’ will infiltrate the very mountain halls of big oil in their armored hybrid cars to negotiate the release of Susan Sarandon from the evil clutches of Lord Cheney and his Zionist Doom Squad…
Actually, that’s a movie I’d pay to see, as long as the final scene resolves into Lord Cheney munching their still warm livers with a side of freedom fries.
You suck Hollywood!
The only thing you can learn from a mediocre director, is how to be a mediocre director…
How copying a crappy genre somehow makes it watchable, is beyond me. Garbage in = garbage out.
But I’m just the ticket-buying public… what do I know?
And where, dear Robert, did I SAY in my little J-O-K-E SCENE post, that “PLEASE PLEASE go to my website”? I merely put in my website-link together with my name. Did I say “oh, please buy me, snap me up, I cannot believe I am not butter?” It’s my home on the web. Nothing more, nothing less.
And that J-O-K-E scene I only quickly typed in, because of Matt’s little thing here posted previously:
Sample Dialogue
Hero — You Nazi bastard, prepare to be killed by this bullet.
Nazi — You only assume I’m a Nazi because I wear this clothing, but maybe I just like the way it feels. Maybe I’m pretending to be a Nazi so I can save my family. I don’t presume you’re the good guy just because you dress in certain articles of clothing that claim that you are on the right side of this struggle.
Hero — I’m not prejudging. You’re boss, sold you out, when I had him tangling over the ledge while giving him a foot massage. And not only is he hot for me, but he’s also a traitor to his people.
Nazi — Thank you for the tasty story.
And in my SECOND post, I merely reacted to an insult. Oh, I’m sorry that I am writer myself. So sorry. So sorry that I don’t hide behind little snarky names.
Sheesh.
This is the reason why I stay away from messageboards.
inglorious bastards, a film by m. night tarantino?
Screw ‘Inglorious Bastards’ I wanna see ‘Machete’.
You listening Harvey?
I never imagined that I would enjoy a film about a couple of hit men who quote the Bible, dance to Chuck Berry, and accidentally blow off the head of their friend.
It never occurred to me that I would enjoy a movie about a samurai-wielding jilted bride who extracted revenge on those that betrayed her.
Never thought that I would appreciate a blood-and-gore vampire/zombie fest set in a depraved Texas roadhouse.
And it never even crossed my mind that I would have any interest in any type of WWII movie.
But then along comes QT and changes everything. I can’t wait to see IB (if and when it ever gets made!).
Tarantino is one of the few directors who understand what cinema is about – archetypes, fantasy, and emotion. I loved all of his movies except Resevoir Dogs.
I am extremely attracted to the idea of a spaghetti western crossed with a WWII movie. I would rather see heroes action heroic, but Tarantino wants to take it one step further. Typical & exciting. I can’t wait!!!
One of the things I like best about QT is how passionate and vociferous his detractors are. Anyone that can anger this many people consistantly for a deceade and a half must be doing something right.
That being said, even QT’s WORST efforts are better than 95% of the drek released every year in by Hollywood and the boutique studios.
Holy crap Ace! I forgot about Ma Che Te!
That I’d pay to see too.
QT is one of the best writers in H-wood but he is also one of the worse directors. He definitely needs the suitd looking over his shoulder when he directs. The strip club schick is also getting old, he needs a new gag reel.
“He’s never made a truly original film. They were all written with someone else, adaptations of other source material, or else an “homage”/ripoff of lesser known movies.”
“Quentin writes great dialogue but I think he’s officially out of ideas.”
“The problem with Quentin is that he never tries to be original anymore, all of his work since Pulp Fiction has been homage after homage after homage. Make an original picture agin man”
SWAT, MIAMI VICE, The Dukes Of Hazard,The Departed,The Incredible Hulk, Spider-Man, The Punisher, Magnum P.I., The Crow, Sin City, 300. These among other movies are all remakes of/or concepts take from tv, books, commic books, or graffic novels.
Tarantino isn’t the only guy in Hollywood to fail to come up with an original idea for a movie.
thmsmgnm
You missed the point while making the point.
Dukes of Hazzard is craptastic.
So is the current Tarantino.
BTW as predicted Warners is out already!
Okay, apparently very few here have any context for film history. You give me any film you think is original, and I’ll give you 10 films it was inspired by, or even the very piece of literature it was based on.
Tarantino’s originality and creativity comes from blending genre films and adding modern context. And you know he’s good because almost every action film post 1996 has been ripping him off…poorly.
Fine, criticize the hype or the over saturation of his influence on modern film…but it’s utterly ignorant to call him untalented, uninspired, or unoriginal.
(Since this is linked from Drudge, I’d expect a bunch of those ignorant yahoos are spamming up this board with their self-righteous propaganda.)
Simply enough, other than Grindhouse, every film Tarantino has either made double its budget or has unequivocally been a hit.
If the Delta Blues musicians had placed a copywright on the 12 bar blues and Hitchcock on the overhead shot, to name but a few where would we be? Art is theft, but can you make it a beautiful theft.
QT doesn’t make movies that will earn him an Oscar nod and for that alone he gets respect. Originality, my god everyone wants to be original, do what you do, that makes it original, stop asking mommy to pay attention, that seems to be the gripe on this thread.
The Kung Fu movies were never crappy, once again it’s an aesthetic you either get it or don’t. Appreciate don’t denigrate.
Did I seriously beat you to the idea – it’s a smokescreen and they’re making “Werewolf Women of the SS!”
MGM made three exceptional anti-hero WWII flicks in that era — DIRTY DOZEN If Quint can channel the best of those 3 and come in under 2 hr 45 min he’s golden. If the movie costs under 10 MIL! C’mon, no one under 35 will see this stuff. He’s ‘post’ Miramax era goods and no one gives a damn anymore. But I’ll still see it. I love that war stuff. Just use REAL tanks, please? No CGI Private Ryan boats off Normandy garbage.
Sad to say, but I really liked both of the Grind House flicks. I hope that his new idea brings him a lot of success, he does have a good talent for action/violent movies.
Someone on this thread said that Pulp Fiction was Tarantino’s best film. I disagree. I think Jackie Brown (1997) was his best film so far. So far I haven’t disliked any film he’s made. There all good.
QT couldn’t direct traffic.
grindhouse sucked. planet terror was ok, but death proof totally blew.
Well, I’ve never seen the Italian film, but if it’s good, then this film might be too. QT doesn’t really have his own ideas, he takes other people’s ideas and turns them to gold(usually). Yes, I used to know the guy.
Oh….and I hope this doesn’t distract Bender from the Nine Inch Nails project he’s working on.
It would be interesting to see QT do a World War II film, but do a battle-film, not a “mission-film.” Though I agree the last great film he has was Kill Bill 1, which should been the second half–because the really second-half really bites!! As for Grindhouse, let’s face it–Deathproof really wasn’t a great story. As for his friend Robert R, I heard that he is bringing back Red Sonja. Why can’t Hollywood ever come up with their own ideas instead of recycling dogs and making comic book movies??
We’ll wait and see. Maybe, just maybe, QT can pull it off. Or he will will create the first half billion dollar film that everyone in the world will have to pay $7.50 at least three times to view before anyone ever sees a profit.