It’s time to end once and for all the rampant speculation. Sony doesn’t want any info to leak but I’m told that both star Tobey Maguire and director Sam Raimi will be returning to make Zodiac screenwriter Jamie Vanderbilt’s script of Spider-Man 4. Sources tell me that Sony has recently locked in both veterans of Spider-Man 1 through 3. And I do mean recently because just a few weeks ago sources told me that Sony Pictures co-chairman Amy Pascal was openly discussing Tobey’s potential replacements with various Hollywood agents because Tobey was hanging tough about a deal. “She was looking around to cover herself because Sony wanted him badly and Tobey wasn’t sure he wanted to do it,” an insider explained to me. (Later today, a Sony Pictures spokesman claimed to me on the record, “There was never anyone considered for the role but Tobey.”)
There’s no deal yet for Kirsten Dunst but Mary Jane Watson will be in the movie again. I’m told Sony “would never recast her” despite her rehab problems. But expect another gal part, too.
Gone is the black costume from Spidey 3, even though “dark” is all the rage in superhero movies right now given the enormous success of The Dark Knight. But I’m told the filmmakers won’t be borrowing from the latest Batman installment because “Spider-Man is its own thing,” one insider tells me. ”Sam Raimi made the first serious superhero movie, and others followed. The difference between Spider-Man and Batman is that Batman is duelling with a dark side of himself, and that’s not what Peter Parker’s struggle is. Peter Parker has no dark side himself. In Spider-Man 3 it was the black costume. Peter Parker’s struggle is about sacrifice.”
Sony is taking its time officially hiring the movie’s villain since principal photography doesn’t start on Spider-Man 4 until next fall because of the recently postponed May 2011 release.
I am told, however, that “once you find out who the villain is, you’ll know who’s playing it.” That should lead to speculation that Dylan Baker’s character of Dr. Curt Connors will ultimately turn into The Lizard as he did in the comic books. There’s one other character that’s been set up but is a real longshot — Daniel Gillies, who plays John Jameson, the astronaut fiance of Mary Jane in Spider-Man 2. In the comics he becomes the villain Man-Wolf. Raimi has said in the past that he wants the best actors to play the villains in the movie, not necessarily the most famous.
I’m also told that, right now, the studio is trying to figure out if it can feasibly shoot Spider-Man 4 and 5 at the same time because doing that is so cost effective and ”it wasn’t so easy to get everybody back together”.
Meanwhile, Sony is moving forward on its Spider-Man Broadway musical with music and lyrics by Bono and The Edge of U2 to be directed by Julie Taymor, the Tony Award-winning director of The Lion King. I’m still in a state of shock that Amy Pascal and Julie Taymor are working together again after the knock-down, drag-out fights they had over Sony/Revolution’s Across The Universe. This is one of those showbiz moments when the Hollywood maxim, ”I’ll never work with you again until I need you”, comes true.
And Sony has hired a pair of screenwriters to get going on the Spider-Man 3 spinoff movie Venom. Given that comic book artist/writer and action figure maker, Todd McFarlane, who is one of the creators of the Marvel villain, doesn’t think a Venom movie could do well with a villain as the central character, my sources think Sony should let Topher Grace, even though he was blown up at the end of Spider-Man 3 (yet a portion of the Venom costume survived), stay in the role because the likeable actor could be a a sympathetic evildoer.
Meanwhile, you can snag a walk-on role on the movie via an eBay auction that ends at 7 PM PDT today. That’s an hour before the broadcast networks ABC, CBS and NBC collaborate to air a historic, live and commercial-free television event, Stand Up To Cancer. Yes, Sony is allowing the charity to sell off the “Spider-Man 4 VIP Experience” which includes: a visit to the set of Spider-Man 4 (one shooting day, location of visit will be determined by Sony Pictures based on scheduling of visit), a meet-and-greet with the cast (1 hour), a walk-on/extra role in the film for the auction winner only (role and length of screen time to be determined by Sony Pictures), a trip to the New York premiere (location of U.S. premiere may be changed at Sony Pictures’ discretion), designer outfits to wear to premiere for winner and guest from top designers (designers to be chosen by Sony Pictures; winner and guest may keep the outfits; winner and guest will walk the premiere’s red carpet).
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Keep that wimp, Topher Grace far away from the role of Venom. Eddie Brock is a body-builder, not a scrawny little nerd. Get someone like Vin Diesel. Grace messed up the role horribly with his whiny voice and the writers ruined the character by making him enlist the help of another villain to get revenge on Spider-Man. The real Venom would take out any villains getting between him and his revenge.
Ok i see some people did not like spidey-3. Well i just want to say Sandman was not that bad. Don’t get me wrong he could have been better. What the movie makers failed to see is that the fight is what the people want.
Take the first movie for example. The green goblin whiped spideys ass with no help. Everyone loved it.
Part 2 the doc himself is a force all on his own.
Now take the last movie. Three guys Sandman ok i can see why he might need some help. But harry should have had his own movie. A fight between two friends….two comic super powers in marvel history. Harry osborn the new goblin should have had part three to himself.The black Spider-man vs the new goblin. Oh it would have been like no other fight ever seen before. The weapons the fury the destruction. And what did they do they killed him.
Then you have VENOM!. Do they even read comics. This villain has petter parker so scared in one comic i have he keeps a sonic disrupter rifle in his room just in case. Trust me he is not one to ask for help often. I can under stand why they want to make a movie about him. But im telling you his fights have to be ruthless and some one special better be in it. thank you for your time. And if sony needs some ideas im happy to help my email is serpentstylerd@yahoo.com
The Spiderman franchise may be one of the most entertaining (so far) but TWO more movies? How to kill it forever.
I always laugh at Tobey Maguire. When we were kids, a “toby” was the same part of anatomy as a “willie” or a “dick”. How appropriate.
My guess/hope for a villain is Michael Clarke Duncan as The Kingpin. I know Dare devil wasn’t as good as it could have been, but putting Spider-Man up against a more cerebral villain would be fun this time.
@ Reality Check:
I wasn’t trying to compare Batman and Spider-Man, but saying that Sony really wanted to get SM-4 on track after TDK outdid both SM-1 (domestically) and SM-3 (worldwide take), and so they secured Raimi and Maguire. I really think Sony will try and get production on SM-4 started before anything is announced regarding a third Batman film.
Nikki! How come Dan DiDio is still in place at DC Comics??????
Great!!! Just what we need, another stupid, silly salsa dancing spidey movies
The studio exec saying that Spiderman was the 1st serious superhero movie needs a bloody new brain. What was so serious about Spiderman 1 anyway? Didn’t he know the wrestling scene was comical?
Rest assured DK2 records will remain intact. Spidey’s B.O receipts is on the downward turn anyways.
If he makes it more of a suspense tale then it could quite possibly rectify the mistakes harbored by the last one.
Enough with Peter Parker’s emotional journey and MJ getting kidnapped for the hundreth time! Give us the Lizard or Carnage or Vulture to raise the threat level and create some genuine suspense. Don’t make another comic book movie. Make a thriller where the stakes are raised. As for Raimi and Maguire returning…I don’t think it’s a good idea personally. Their style is just bland and boring. This franchise screams REBOOT! REBOOT! But apparently they dug the script so we’ll have to wait and see. It all comes down to the trailer. If it works, people will come. If not…then I feel really sorry for some Sony execs.
Personally I think both Spidey 1&2 were great, and i agree that Spidey 3 was a total disaster as they tried to do too much…where are all the simple great storylines nowadays??… anyway i really think they need a new Peter Parker, Toby just doesn’t cut it and Spidey doesn’t seem to have any of the hilarious phrases Spidey should have, I think someone like Ryan Reynolds from Blade should be spidey, he has both the figure and the ability to deliver the one-liners at the right time. As for the movie itself, i think they should take a break from the relationship of Mary-Jane and Peter, I mean how many times can she get into bother and always get saved by spidey…its so annoying and predictable…she should have fell and died in Spidey 3 (A bit like Rachel in The Dark Knight) that would have opened up many option for Spidey 4&5… Also for the next one it should be alot darker, Spideys getting annoying being that much of a goody-two-shoes geek from 2 and 3, so it should be a mix of The Dark Knight and Iron Man (For the humour- the rest of the movie was rubbish!)
As for the villian..there should only be one, but one of the original and best loved from the cartoon, for example:
Scorpion – He was created to kill spiderman and one of spidermans best villians
Rhino – A absolute powerhouse who would look amazing stomping around modern-day New York
Lizard – It would be a great clash as Spidey has a emotional link to Dr. Connors to start of with
and finally, if they do decide to darken the movie, Morlun, a unstoppable force bent on killing Spidey, this could enable the writers to push spidey far enough to have to kill him in order to survive – a perfect opportunity to darken spidey and make him more human!
*It would also give an opportunity for other heroes (from the Avengers) to help him, then offer him a position in their team!!
Anyway thats just my opinion!
God no more Kirsten Dunst pl. Movie Gwen > than Movie MJ by like a thousand times. If MJ is going to be in future movies she needs to be recast.
I don’t believe Sony interfered as much as people here in these comments think they did in SM-3. Look at the success Raimi had with SM1 and SM2; with that kind of box office clout, studios are happy to let you do what you want. Plus, it’s not like Raimi is listening to anyone having put some billion bucks into their pocket and gotten them hefty Christmas bonuses.
God, what is it with Nic Cage? I still remember his small role in Rumblefish creating a solid impression in my mind. Leaving Las Vegas was not one of my favorites, but I acknowledge his talent for goddamm sure in the film. But Adaptation was mind blowing! So I totally understand his fan-boy comic book jag ,so why not something incredibly controversial from that realm like Ditko’s Mr. A? (Sorry Vince V., but let’s be real…)
The only successful film Tobey has starred in the last six year other than the Spiderman movies was Seabisquit (I think he only made one other film). His career has stalled and he begrudgingly realizes his only options. He & Raimi know SM3 was a dud. And since no one else wants to greenlight a film with him attached (including his host studio, who has not greenlit any film he brought in as a producer and/or actor in the last five years & only gave him a deal because they want him as Spiderman) he doesn’t want the last film he has been able to get made be his worst work.
Good point WawaLisa — think you hit the head on the nail on that one.
For any future comic book to succeed now after TDK’S wake there is a formula to take hold — one: the casting has to be of high quality, no matter what property you are adapting, quality high grade actors, not movie stars per se, but trained skilled actors have to be involved. two: the script doesn’t have to be great, but it has to be a solid story with a beginning, middle and an end. three: a director who’ll take the material seriously and be true to the source material. four: studio executives cannot be involved in active development of material. Why? Because most are stupid about anything and everything. Let them stare at data sheets all day, creative they’re not. Follow those rules and they’ll have a fighting chance.
@ Sid:
Personally, I blame Avi Arad for making story “input” on what villains to include in SM-3. Not to mention Raimi really didn’t like Venom and only put him in the film because Arad wanted him to.
Arad should just leave the Spidey franchise to Laura Ziskin and concentrate on his Marvel Studios lineup with Stan and Kevin Feige. According to the Hollywood Reporter, he and Ziskin will produce the next two films. Not a good idea for Arad to be around.
Sandman was horrible in Spider-Man 3; at the end, I couldn’t get chants of “Imhotep! Imhotep!” out of my head with the bad Mummy-redux sand effects. In fact, the whole film was a train wreck. I understood Raimi planned the film to be his last and was trying to shoehorn as much as possible into it as he could, but the overflowing script was too much: A dance number! Gwen Stacy! The black suit! Venom! Another villain! Harry’s closure! They did everything but blow up the Death Star.
The most effective of the films was Spider-Man 2, with its tightly focused script and single villain. It’s disheartening that studios still haven’t learned from the Burton and Schumacher Batman films, where more villains, more sidekicks, and more gimmicks increasingly resulted in diminished product.
It’s amazing how many people talk crap on the Spiderman movies. You people have no idea what a real movie is. I bet the same jokers loved Transformers. Get a life. So many comments are incredibly uneducated and ignorant. SM3 wasn’t horrible, but was far below expectations. So what? It was still fun.
And Matt C, you are dead on. If Arad would have let Raimi make 3 the way he wanted, it would have been a lot better. With 4 and 5, they have a chance to move on and allow the character to grow more.
“Rebooting” the franchise is a horrible idea. Look at what it did for Hulk, nothing! Why reboot something? Do I really want to see the same origin story over and over? Eff no.
Why reboot a franchise that was only a few years old? Batman waited more than a decade and Superman longer than that!
They should wait alittle longer, say 7-10yrs before rebooting it with new cast altogether. And no more sad villian and silly crybaby scene please. Spidey is never going to win an Oscar. Period!
Sony needs to do this the “Marvel Way.” Make a deal and include the characters that are classic NYC Marvel heroes: Ghost Rider, Punisher, Daredevil, to appear alongside Spiderman in the two movies, with Spiderman appearing theirs.
Have Spiderman, Daredevil, and Ghost Rider each try to stop the Punisher (from well, killing mobsters/super-powered bad guys) and get in each other’s way. That’s classic Marvel — the heroes know each other, have serious issues with each other over methods and personality, but are constrained by their own code.
Pushing in too many villains is old hat — fans love cross-overs particularly how the heroes interact. You would need Nic Cage (for Ghostrider) but I think you could recast Punisher and Daredevil. Yes with Michael Clarke Duncan as an ancillary character. After all, the Punisher is not a villain, but not the kind of hero the others are either.
This stuff worked wonders in the Comics. Garth Ennis wrote some classics with Wolverine, Daredevil, Spider-Man, and the Punisher all tangling. Heck if not Ghost Rider, someone marginal like Nomad or Moon Knight could be put to use in that slot.
I can’t believe most of what I’m reading here. How completely unforgiving and forgetful most you asses are. Spider-Man and Spider-man 2 were state of the art blockbuster successes that delivered big time. Spider-man 3 had problems. MOST of the problems stemmed from big to much to long to soon. Listen, I’m behind the man (Raimi) and crew who made those movies. They do have their pulse on what makes Spidey tick. I’m betting my bottom dollar that both films will be worth watching and fun…Oh and BTW…after the MONSTER business and buzz for “THE DARK KNIGHT”…I am betting right now, EVEN before the third movie in that franchise is made, that people will be saying, “Nolan should have stopped when he was ahead. Batman 3 sucks!” ..you know why? It’s very, very, VERY hard to follow up a GRAND SLAM (Spidey 2 and The Dark Knight) without some kind of let down. Trust me….it’ll happen. In the meantime. GO SPIDEY!
king pen is the villain, michael clark duncan.
I didn’t rly like any of the Spider Man films tbh. It’s just not dark enough. The guy who’s supposed to be annoying, just becomes funny. The guy who is supposed to be evil, just becomes pissed off. Ya know ? It doesn’t strike me as an actual Spider Man setting.
I did fall asleep during SM3. And that is surprising. The most interesting thing about SM3 was the trailer. I liked that sequence where arrogant Maguire struts about town and the sequence didn’t even belong in the movie. It was like some movie within a movie thing. Sandman was truly trite in every way.
My point was that the Spiderman movies are different from Nolan’s Batman films because Nolan’s real world take on Batman is unique to the movie genre for comic books. Burton and Schumacher made cartoon-versions of Batman, similar to Rami’s vision of Spiderman.
Now Spiderman 3 went off the tracks a bit, but it wasn’t the disaster that Batman & Robin was.
Perhaps Rami can recapture the magic of the first two movies with Spiderman 4 & 5! That would be great.
Look how great Iron Man was. It wasn’t expected to be as big of a hit as it became.
I think Nolan will make a third Batman movie, but The Dark Knight is going to be a hard act to follow. The pressure will be incredible. Which villians will he use and what actors will be selected? Lots of pressure.
Rami will have similar pressure as well.
I love the spiderman franchise. I dont care what people say about 3. yes there were a couple of things that might have not been correct. But what movie is? there is always a couple of slow parts, embarrasing moments or bad acting. that doesnt make the movie bad. i didnt think it was a bad movie. of course thats my opinion and one of thousands. I grew up with spideman and batman and superman buying the toys comics albums, tapes you name it. they will alwasy be my favorite heros. not to mention, justice league, wonderwoman, thor, flash, and green arrow which i hear they are making all of these movies now. I think its great. but i hope that all of them isnt all dressed in black with the dark theme. only batman, maybe greenarrow or like punisher and ghostrider should be the black theme. however the stories could be dark sure. in spiderman 4 or 5 i think it would be great to have manwolf and mystrio. i remember a comic book record i used to have at the age of 5 about manwolf against spiderman that was a cool scary story. wish i still had it they should do it. anyway these are my comments and i support anyones opinions that is just my nature. ps wonder why they dont redo heman since even though i loved heman they kind of messed up the one in 84 with dolph lungren.