Nag! Nag! Nag! These days there’s just no pleasing the AMPTP (now led by that princess of petulance Carol Lombardini, who’s still snookering all the moguls by not leveling with them about what’s really going on). Look at this latest exchange between Big Media’s footsoldiers and SAG over the big actors guild’s new special bulletin updating members about contract negotiations and postcard polling their views on the pact’s provisions and progress.
September 1, 2008 — AMPTP has issued the following in reference to a postcard mailing that SAG’s negotiators have sent to members: “It’s long past time for SAG’s negotiators to close this deal, and a mass postcard mailing is just another delay tactic meant to mask the fact that SAG’s negotiators have no coherent strategy. In fact, SAG’s postcard ‘poll’ appears to be designed to deliver just one thing: A result pre-ordained by SAG’s negotiators. With four new contracts this year, the Producers and the other Hollywood Guilds have moved on, and we are now back to work. The longer SAG’s negotiators hold out, the more SAG members will lose out on the new media rights and residuals, salary, pension and other increases in the Producer’s $250 million final offer.”
September 1, 2008 — Response to AMPTP from SAG national executive director and chief negotiator Doug Allen: “The AMPTP previously suggested that we send their last offer to our members and now that we have done so they object. It is understandable that the studios and networks are concerned about the members’ reaction to a proposal that contains incentives to produce non-union and no residuals for new media productions re-used by steaming on the Internet. It is appropriate that we inform our members and seek their input on these critical matters. The reason we don’t have a deal yet is because management hasn’t put an offer on the table that is acceptable to SAG’s Natiional Negotiating Committee and National Board. The AMPTP hasn’t yet been willing to modify their new media “template” to make it work for actors.”
September 2, 2008 — Statement by the AMPTP: “SAG’s mass postcard mailing is designed to give SAG negotiators the answer they want to hear – and only the answer they want to hear. The two questions on the postcard “poll” are written in a completely one-sided way, characterizing the June 30 final offer as unfair. The 12 pages of material accompanying the postcard are just as one-sided and are filled with misrepresentations. For example, SAG’s negotiators continue to insist that talks are ongoing. The facts are exactly the opposite: No informal negotiations regarding SAG’s TV/Theatrical contract have been going on, and for SAG’s negotiators to suggest otherwise is to intentionally mislead the membership. AMPTP has made the new media template work for directors, writers and actors (in two separate AFTRA agreements), and all have now gone back to work. It’s long past time for SAG members to begin enjoying the higher wages, plan contributions, streaming and other new media residuals already being paid to other Guild members.”
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been there
if you were certain that the results of this poll were meaningless
you wouldn’t bother to remark about it.
the poll is a way to take the temperature of the membership, to see how they feel about this impasse.
the results won’t be rigged no matter how much you and everyone over at sagwatch will claim they will be.
if a majority says take the deal, then we’ll know that people
feel as you do and want to fold up the tent.
if a majority says the deal is no good, then leadership will be validated
and will continue on our behalf.
the contract is the issue at hand and i can say it’s AFTRA’s fault
and you can say it’s MF’s fault,
but the fact is that MF is still fighting for something better
and AFTRA just took what was placed before her.
SAG has three separate (but related) problems on it’s shoulders right now. In order of importance:
1) get a fair contract with AMPTP for it’s members,
2) board elections, and
3) deal with AFTRA
The AFTRA issue is on the way, way back burner. It is what it is for now, as AFTRA has made it’s play and will have to deal with the ramifications of those decisions. SAG ain’t worried about AFTRA right now.
“been there” keeps spouting off about what a vote for either slate means: “Vote MF if you want this war to continue and our clout to be continually diminished. Vote U4S if you want the war to STOP and for actors to TAKE BACK their strength.” It sounds like “been there” is running for the U4S board theirself. Sounds like what I heard from the recent Republican convention – loaded statements, a bunch of misstated falsehoods and opinions about the opposition; saying something (whether true or false) just because you can. It’s cheap politicking.
Further, “been there”, you say you’ve asked over and over about a plan to merge SAG and AFTRA actors but all you hear are crickets? That means that you’re not hearing anything from U4S either, pal. U4S has no plan for what they say they want to do. Nada. These 31 U4S people don’t have a monopoly on frustration with the current circumstances. But you say that “U4S is just tired of the factionalization (sic) and civil war with AFTRA and KNOW that if actors continue to fight actors, the only one who wins is the AMPTP.” So what do they do? They start a civil war within their own union!? Your “slate” needs a better mouthpiece.
And finally, the contract poll. Yeah, SAG negotiators need to know where the membership stands on the current offer, and their (our) readiness to head into a “labor action”. (Thanks, Mheister – I love that euphemism.) The poll makes it clear what they’re doing and why. It will help them decide what step to take next – and isn’t that what we all want – steps taken?
It’s on, baby!
Been There -
Actually, yes, the AMPTP could impose their last-best-final-seriously-we’re-not-kidding-even-if-we-won’t-declare-an-impasse contract and force SAG to respond. But they haven’t. Funny that.
The flaw in your argument in favor of Unite for Strength vis a vis the current negotiations is that AFTRA already has their piss-poor deal with its no-strike clause, for the next three long years. AFTRA could change its stripes and come 100% to SAG’s defense tomorrow and it would make absolutely ZERO difference to the AMPTP in its current theatrical contract negotiations with SAG, because AFTRA’s already given it away. Until AFTRA’s Schedule A is up for renewal in 2011, they have nothing of relevance to say on the subject.
Once you’ve allowed yourself to be screwed, you can’t unscrew yourself. Why do you think President Rosenberg is so steadfast in refusing to take the AMPTP’s frakked deal?
believable and knowledgeable