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Watch SNL's Tina Fey-As-Sarah Palin Skit

By Nikki Finke | Category: Marketing | Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 9:47pm PST
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  • Thanks for that link. I was reading about it on twitter, but am TV-less

    Comment by zak — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 10:02pm PST  Reply to this post
  • I’d like to echo Zak’s thanks. Bravo Nikki, you rock!

    Comment by mheister — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 10:09pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Thanks for the link Nikki! Wow Tina Fey is dead on perfect as Palin. I can’t wait for the return of 30 Rock!

    Comment by Cindy — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 10:11pm PST  Reply to this post
  • She’s a dead ringer for her. It was really good. They both were. It was one of their best skits this political season. It’s what we’ve been missing. SNL political satire. I remember when they were doing Nixon and Ford and Carter.

    Comment by peggy — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 10:15pm PST  Reply to this post
  • I love Tina. She could be her double and that would really freak people out. No matter who she lampoons I like her anyway.

    Comment by chuck — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 10:21pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Funny and charming. Although in fairness, there are at least four different “Bush Doctrines.”

    Comment by Tom J. — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 10:21pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Well performed by both and funny at times, but typical of a SNL “political” skit. The Republican’s can be made fun of on their politics while Democrats are strictly made fun of for their personalities. Love how they had to throw in stuff right out of the kooky left as if it was fact like her believing Dinosaurs walked the earth with man or her not knowing the Bush Doctrine. Keep it up guys. The American people can see right through this stuff.

    Comment by Rupert P. — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 11:00pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Yup, reality does have a liberal bias.

    Comment by Des — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 11:13pm PST  Reply to this post
  • I think that bit is the real reason Obama chose not to appear on SNL this week.

    Don’t blame him. And that was really funny.

    Comment by Salvia Sorry — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 11:20pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Actually, Tom J. there really is only one Bush Doctrine. But let’s pretend that there really are 4 — and Sarah Palin didn’t know any of them.

    And Rupert P, Palin is a creationist, so yes, she really believes that dinosaurs walked with man.

    And Palin believes in charging rape victims for the evidence kits. Not to mention that she’s lying about killing the “Bridge to Nowhere.” Congress killed it and then Palin took the money to build the “Road to Nowhere.” She also raised taxes as Mayor of Wasilla and left the town 20 million debt.

    And today the news broke that Palin appointed childhood friends to cabinet positions. Check out this article for how bad a leader she is: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?hp

    Comment by jim — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 11:28pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Tina got the accent right on!! Hope she can continue to make guest appearances, at least until November.

    Comment by Dan Zee — Saturday September 13, 2008 @ 11:58pm PST  Reply to this post
  • What are the odds these two best friends would find themselves playing with and against each other in this very strange situation. They were both great but I hope they keep it toned down as not upset those folks on Fox….I’m sure Mr. Hannity will be screaming ‘foul’ on Monday.

    Comment by kate — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 12:49am PST  Reply to this post
  • Tina definitely nailed Palin. However, I have to agree with Rupert’s earlier observation that Republican’s can be made fun of on their politics while Democrats are strictly made fun of for their personalities. It’s illustrative of the fact that while Palin and McCain are aggressively grilled by the Democrat operatives in the media, Barack Obama is treated with kid gloves and asked softball questions that any moron could answer. It amazes me that they can call themselves journalists while ignoring the fact that Obama’s associates are rabid leftists, self-proclaimed terrorists and thieves. I’d like to see Charlie Gibson ask Obama about his involvement with crooked Chicago politics and how he ran unopposed for the Illinois senate by successfully having his opponents removed from the ballot. He is a community organizer whose only claim to fame is the fact that he was endorsed by Oprah Winfrey for President. His resumé is void of real accomplishment and yet we are to believe he is more prepared to be President than a woman who has held executive office for a number of years and is currently the Governor of her state. The backlash is gonna be huge and I can’t wait to see the shell-shocked expressions on election night as the Republicans take the White House and regain control in the House of Representatives. I can hardly wait to see Nancy Pelosi knocked off her perch.

    Comment by AaronSch — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 1:10am PST  Reply to this post
  • Oh Jim — please enlighten us. What exactly is the “Bush Doctrine”?

    No, let me help you out. There is actually no such thing. There are four different policies over eight years the ‘media’ called the Bush Doctrine. There was never one named so by the administration. So what exactly do you want her to ‘remember’?

    Egads! She appointed friends to her cabinet?

    First of all, she HAD a cabinet. Interesting admission for a presumed Obama supporter. Once again the left’s desperation actually serves to highlight an accomplishment. You can’t say she has no experience and then complain about her cabinet appointees. That would be dishon… never mind.

    Your ‘change’ candidate (who voted ‘present’ more than any other Senator since he’s been in office) has made one executive decision, choosing a thirty-year Senator as his running mate. Change. If he had any guts at all (and a smaller ego) he would have chosen Hillary and we probably wouldn’t even be having a discussion. The ticket would be thirty points ahead.

    Second, Alaska has an awful small population, Sparky. It’s probably tough to find qualified contemporaries you didn’t know growing up. By the way, how many ‘friends’ did the Clinton’s appoint to their cabinet? Wonder if you bitched about it then?

    And guess what? Alaska has a TEN BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS this year under her Governorship thanks to the deals she made with Big Oil. And every citizen of the state is getting a CHECK from the state government. The surplus is going back to the people. I would think all the income redistribution liberals would be impressed by that.

    Charging rape victims for evidence kits? Please. And what difference does it make what her religious beliefs are? I’ll bet you don’t hold Black Liberation Theology (and its white man is the devil and God DAMN America) against Barack (no — he never heard any of that). Or Biden’s Catholicism (and their worship of guys in pointy hats) against him.

    There’s so much more but, how about this? There’s no need for you to get all lathered up. You just vote for your candidates and we on the right will vote for ours and we’ll see who wins.

    Unless you’re afraid of that outcome.

    Comment by truth? — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 1:27am PST  Reply to this post
  • Aaron, a little more research would be good.
    Mrs. Palin listed on her filing papers for governor that she had been a “housewife” for the previous four years. As Mayor of a little little town, she left them $22M in debt, her “executive experience” in Alaska is even questioned by the Alaska legislature where a JOINT committee is investigating her for abuse of power AND they even had buttons printed up for members of the legislature “Where’s Sarah” because she really did not like making the trip to Juneau and refused to live in the governor’s mansion to be close to her JOB.
    Obama:890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

    For a complete list of bills, amendments, committee assignments and accomplishments, including this one:
    **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
    Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department’s ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
    Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
    URL:
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4678548&mesg_id=4678548

    Comment by Awakenedcitizen — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 2:10am PST  Reply to this post
  • Awesome. That is all. Thanks for sharing.

    Comment by Nita — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 2:12am PST  Reply to this post
  • I actually think Sarah Palin is AWESOME, but that was pretty funny. I can’t believe people are giving Gov Palin so much crap over a few things they might not agree with, but everyone acts like B.O. has accomplished so much and has never made a mistake. COME ON!

    Comment by TP — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 2:32am PST  Reply to this post
  • Brilliant act by Tina. It was utterly hilarious. Thanks Nikki.

    Comment by Sam — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 2:35am PST  Reply to this post
  • RupertP and AronSch, you guys are both total Flurges. And I really mean that.

    Comment by AnotherWGAmember — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 2:45am PST  Reply to this post
  • Keep wishing AaronSch. I see you’ve got HOPE.

    Comment by Fassbinder — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 2:46am PST  Reply to this post
  • This was really funny. I figured it wouldn’t be long before Tina took on Palin, considering people were comparing the two since the first day Palin appeared on the national stage. Naturally there’s a left-wing bias to the bit, but you pretty much have to accept that these days or you don’t get to laugh. Besides, SNL has taken more than their fair share of jabs at Hillary too.

    @jim, you may want to read this Post article by the person who coined the phrase “Bush Doctrine,” affirming that in fact the original meaning of the term had nothing to do with how Chuck Gibson defined it in the interview, nor does Gibson’s definition even fit the current understanding of the term. I have to admit, I follow politics pretty closely and I had only heard the term “Bush Doctrine” loosely referred to in a humorous connotation a few times before the interview. Maybe it’s something left-wing bloggers use a lot, and therefore believe should be perfectly crystallized in the minds of all those Americans who ignore them on a daily basis.

    Comment by RodimusBen — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 3:48am PST  Reply to this post
  • And if the “New York Times” said it, it MUST be so, because they never ever get anything wrong and NEVER show bias. :-)

    Comment by Reader — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 4:34am PST  Reply to this post
  • See, SNL is funniest when politics are in play. I stopped watching in the past few years, but I might stick around for the first half hour of the show from here to election day.

    Republicans don’t get it. The reason Democrats’ personalities get made fun of is the same reason Republicans’ policies get made fun of: Each is funnier than the alternative. But I don’t expect them to catch a good joke. They didn’t when Palin was announced as a running mate.

    If she was nominated by the Democrats as a VP pick, what would your reaction be? Would you still be defending her?

    That’s what I thought. Put a little “D” or “R” next to a name and the rules change for your guy/gal.

    Comment by Mike Scott — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 5:29am PST  Reply to this post
  • No, there are 4 Bush doctrines as it is not constant over time.

    Comment by Bdawg — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 5:59am PST  Reply to this post
  • to: Aaronsch,

    First of all Aaron. Who do you work for….the RNC?

    First, McCain has so little respect for the political system, that he actually thinks the Hillary supporters would vote for just “Any woman”.

    Second: The Republicans are so tied to the current disastrous administration they are handcuffed from discussing the issues that Barack Obama has time and time again discussed with great clarity over Iraq, The Economy, The Energy crisis and the right way for foreign policy to be implemented in order to restore this country’s moral high ground again around the world that Bush has completely destroyed. How can we tell Russia not to go after soveriegn nations when we go to war unilaterally against other soveriegn nations (Iraq) Hypocrisy never should be “The cornerstone” of foreign relations.

    What has McCain /Palin done in the interim? – Hijacked the “Need for change” slogan from Barack. Because of Bush, well of people are in fact scrounging for change.

    Lastly,Aaron Have you ever seen/ heard Barack speak? He’s smarter and more eloquent then anyone I’ve seen or heard, since Bill Clinton. I don’t know about you, but I want a president that is smarter than me and smarter than most.

    I want a president who went to Harvard for his Law Degree, not someone who went the U. of Idaho. Is that elitist (as they claim Barack to be) no.Just common sense and just another spin tactic to have us believe that hockey moms are what is need for this nation. Rather than Biden who has more foreign relations experience in his left pinky ten times over than his competitor on the right.MCain’s choice for running mate is a most disastrous decision McCain could make.

    But thank goodness he made it. Now I don’t worry that much if McCain/Palin will be elected. into office.

    My fear is they will be “Selected” into office.

    Comment by Agent Provocateur — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 6:15am PST  Reply to this post
  • Never could stand Fey, particularly when she was on with that moronic no-talent Fallon. “Corpsing” constantly during their shtick. Pathetic. She’s always thought she’s way funnier than she is, and now, with media attention and a more expensive publicist, she’s starting to believer her own hype about being some kind of intellectual sex symbol — ridiculous. Way overrated, and when the desperate, fake 30 Rock bubble finally pops…hello oblivion.

    Comment by Paul — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 6:23am PST  Reply to this post
  • Palin doesn’t just believe that dinosaurs walked with man, she believes that “The Flintstones” was a documentary!

    Comment by Unindicted Co-conspirator — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 7:01am PST  Reply to this post
  • Tina Fey was great. Too bad her show “30 rock” is just okay. It sucks in the ratings and at best is funny just some of the time, and those times are when Alec Baldwin is in the scene. I really wanted to like this show, too.

    Jeff Zucker must have a secret crush on Tina to keep this show on.

    Comment by 32 rock — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 7:19am PST  Reply to this post
  • Aaron,

    What country have you been living in for the past 8 years? If you can say with any certainty that you believe that more Republican rule would be beneficial in light of the turdbowl we’ve been collectively eating from since a portion of America said “yes” to W, then godspeed, man, because if you hadn’t noticed, we’re in a lot of trouble.

    In terms of executive experience, being a mayor or even governor of Alaska is really akin to being mayor of Washington D.C. in that you really have no actual power. That may sound like a specious argument, but I challenge you and other to think about who really wields power in such places, where oil is the #1 commodity.

    My fear is that Republicans are going to once again hoodwink the nation because the people who are most apt to vote for them are truly the ones most disconnected from what the real sociopolitical landscape is really like.

    Comment by HashimH — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 7:45am PST  Reply to this post
  • When will you Americans talk about the issues? You know, instead of endlessly disparaging the character of your candidates until election day, at which point everyone wakes up and says “wait, I didn’t vote for that…”

    This applies to both GOP and Dems.

    I mean, all the partisans who froth at the mouth one way or the other are just selfish jerks venting their rage. I think they WANT more of the same so that they can keep the cable news commentator gigs and up the valuation of their Web sites.

    Enough.

    Comment by Daniel — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 8:30am PST  Reply to this post
  • I actually don’t believe the name Barack Obama was spoken even once during that whole show — not even during Weekend Update.

    That said, the show itself was painful. SNL is now challenging the Joe Piscopo-Anthony Michael Hall era as one of the worst in its history. Once Poehler exits, it’s going to be more unwatchable than it already is.

    Comment by Doc Michaels — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 8:32am PST  Reply to this post
  • ha ha..

    “i can see russia from my house”

    Comment by lakers — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 8:40am PST  Reply to this post
  • I’m sick and tired of the right talking about how the Democratic candidate has no credentials.

    Barack Obama is one of the most successful men in the history of Western civilization. He grew up a poor, bi-racial child who ascended to the top of the law review at Harvard, and now has the support of over 40 millon members of his country to be President of the United States of America. Countless millions abroad celebrate his standing as well. Tell me — what have you done with your life that even justifies you posting on a silly message board?

    Kill yourself.

    Forget Iraq — Bush and Cheney committed treason for leaking Valerie Plame’s name, and if a Democrat had done that, he would have been impeached. They are traitors who should be taken to the United States Military Academy at West Point and stoned by plebes.

    Comment by Dale Murphy — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 8:56am PST  Reply to this post
  • While the skit itself was good, the producers of the show dropped the ball big time from a creative standpoint by having Tina as Palin on screen the very first second the show went on air! That robbed the audience of erupting into applause by not having her walk out on set to create much more of a dramatic effect. At least that’s my opinion!

    Comment by entertainmenttodayandbeyond — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 9:15am PST  Reply to this post
  • AaronSch said:
    “The backlash is gonna be huge and I can’t wait to see the shell-shocked expressions on election night as the Republicans take the White House and regain control in the House of Representatives.”

    Nice spin there AaronSch….let’s all hope that not many people drink the same right wing kool-aid as you and see the vision of an all Republican government as a good thing or we’ll all be forced to sing the GOP Uber Alles blues.

    The backlash has already begun and judging by your views you’re not gonna like which way it is backlashing.

    Transpo

    Comment by Transpo — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 9:24am PST  Reply to this post
  • Thank- you Jim and AaronSch-

    NOW Rupert and Des , let’s get down to the VERY BASICS – KIS ( Keep it Simple)- All we’re asking for “is she or he qualified”?

    After all of this I am now looking in my small home town at the local sports- newcaster and wondering ” could this be our next Mayor and then Governor and who knows – VP and Yes — President? WOW!!!

    Call me a liberal – all I am asking for are “QUALIFIED” politicians -prepared to LEAD the US of A to THRIVAL. I just thought we could possibly find someone who might have the necessary QUALIFICATIONS??

    If we just keep it simple maybe we can cross the lines and ask ourselves what most matters to survive and thrive for ALL Americans ? (Hope it’s okay to include ALL –I hate to leave any American out)

    Comment by Susan G — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 9:30am PST  Reply to this post
  • I saw that earlier online. Really freaked me out how much of a ringer Fey is for Palin. With all this talk of North Korea using doubles for their Leader, I hope Palin doesn’t get such an idea. One is enough!

    Comment by Mike Cane — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 9:48am PST  Reply to this post
  • In a weak attempt by the media to balance partisan attacks, Hillary has clearly become the Democratic scapegoat for the liberal media, while Obama is off limits.

    Comment by Leftwing Media — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 9:52am PST  Reply to this post
  • I really hope Palin comes out of her media cocoon and is asked about the fact that she believes dinosaurs walked the earth 4000 years ago. What about carbon dating Gov. Palin. You not believe in that as well?

    Comment by Geoff — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 9:59am PST  Reply to this post
  • Uhm Aaron…the Dems will add to their lead in both the the House (around 8-10)and Senate (probably by 4 or 5) in November. You saying otherwise is essentially makes you more flacid than you’ve ever been.

    Comment by Geoff — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 10:02am PST  Reply to this post
  • Aaron, I totally agree with you. The press has made a fool of themselves and revealed how much of a propaganda machine they are by fawning over Obama (”boxers or briefs”) while mocking Palin for having a religion (as in the recent ABC interview). Meanwhile, this stupid behavior from the media plus the idiotic statements made by the likes of Roseanne Barr (who ranted on her website that Palin ought to stay at home with her kids and not work! – funny coming from a woman who gave up her own children in order to make a fortune in showbiz) and Pamela Anderson (”I can’t stand her. She can suck it!”)and Matt Damon waffling on in some incoherent rant about dinosaurs just riles the Republicans (or anyone else with a brain and isn’t drinking the Obama kool-aid) up and ensures McCain and Palin will be in the White House and their boy Obama will be back in Chicago doing nothing.

    Comment by Crystal Diane Stevens — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 10:11am PST  Reply to this post
  • I do wish there had been a line of something like “I support the right of all women to choose on the issue of abortion” vs. “I support my right to choose for myself, my family, and the rest of you.”

    Aaron, what you don’t seem to understand (um, aside from the fact that Pelosi will still be Speaker come next year) is that its the personality-based attack that really hurts a candidate. And, as you note, the media confines itself to questioning Republican policies, not making personality-based attacks as it does with Democrats.

    For example, during the 2000 campaign the media repeatedly painted Al Gore as a sort of serial exaggerator, largely based on one misquote. In contrast, the McCain team has told multiple out-and-out lies this week, specifically the lie that Obama funded sex education for kindergartners, the lie that Sarah Palin initially opposed the Bridge To Nowhere, the lie that she never requested earmarks for Alaska as governor, the lie that Palin visited the battlefield in Iraq, the lie that she didn’t use her public office to persecute a former relative, and on and on. Yet there is no broader narrative for McCain. Each of these stories is reported briefly (if at all), usually only in print media, and there is no linking to a broader narrative.

    As for your attacks on Sen. Obama, they are without basis in fact. As a very brief rebuttal, Sen. Obama wrote a bill with Sen. Lugar that expanded the Nunn-Lugar framework to include certain conventional weapons (including shoulder-fired missiles), he worked with Sen. Coburn to write bills that became parts of the ethics reform. There are a lot of others (google “wiki list of bills sponsored by Barack Obama”), but allow me to mention one from back in his Illinois legislative days. He wrote and the legislature passed the only racial profiling legislation that was actually supported by the state police, because he worked extensively with the police to take their concerns into account. Compare this to McCain, who when his fellow Senator took issue with his immigration reform, screamed at him “F–k you!”

    For even more information, there is a long post from October 2006 which discusses Obama’s record and hopes he runs for President based on his record:

    http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html

    Comment by JoshA — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 10:13am PST  Reply to this post
  • I like how AaronSch completely ignores Obama’s four years in the U.S. Senate and refers to him only as a “community organizer”. Oh well, it’s only fair, since Dems like to focus on GWB’s past only as a failed businessman and party animal. Whatever one can dig up!

    As for the statement about Obama winning his Illinois state senate seat unopposed, this is true but AaronSch overlooks the facts in his spin: incumbent Alice Palmer’s campaign had collected signatures from voters outside her district, and that’s why she was removed from the ballot. Gha-is Askia, who was also removed from the ballot because of suspicious signatures, later said himself that he believed some of them were forged. Obama may have sailed into the IL state senate because of these technicalities, but in the end, he was in the right and his opponents’ supporters and/or campaigns weren’t playing fairly.

    It can be argued that Obama sailed into the U.S. Senate too, because of opponent Jack Ryan’s embarrassing sex scandal involving his TV star wife Jeri Ryan (see? it all comes back to Hollywood here), which caused him to drop out, and the, shall we say, “thoroughly offbeat” Alan Keyes being chosen to replace him at the last minute. There was no contest. But just because Obama won these elections easily doesn’t mean he won them unfairly.

    Comment by dhd — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 10:17am PST  Reply to this post
  • Obama cancelled his appearance on SNL because of this little thing called Hurricane Ike. Geez! You people in L.A. have absolutely no clue what’s going on in the world boyond TV and movies.

    Comment by The Write Coast — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 11:22am PST  Reply to this post
  • Err, most of Obama’s time in the senate has consisted of him running for president. Which means he hasn’t been getting senate experience. He’s been using that as a three day pitstop to get to better things. Duh.

    Comment by Francine Fishpaw — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 11:27am PST  Reply to this post
  • Nikki…you gotta stop letting Drudge or whoever it is post links to your site. What could’ve been an interesting discussion about SNL’s handling of the sketch has turned into yet another partisan e-battle. Some of us come here for insider analysis of our industry. We can get Republican and Democrat talking points on Fox News and MSNBC on an endless loop.

    Realize that these people are not using your site for actual discussion, they’re using it for propaganda.

    Comment by A-Dub — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 11:45am PST  Reply to this post
  • Sarah Palin has led a state where everyone looks like her and thinks like her. Besides her state trip to Iraq/Germany, she had only ever been to Mexico and Canada on her own. She is only four years older than I am, and yet she comes across as someone from Hillary Clinton’s generation. There is no modern bone in this woman’s body. She is completely out of touch with the world contemporary women live in. She was asked if being gay is a choice or genetic and her very telling response was “I won’t judge.” Who asked her to judge? How wonderful it would have been for a woman to either be president or Vice President this go-around, but this is our choice? This is a VERY VERY limited human being we are talking about. She loves to use the term “world view” but what kind of world view can she possibly have when she has seen nothing of the world? America, we can definitely do better than this. There are some kick-ass women out there who would make us all proud. Sarah Palin is a joke.

    Comment by Carla — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 12:27pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Laughs all around!!!!!!! Best SNL skit for years

    Comment by Britton — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 12:41pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Seriously, thanks for posting this bipartisan appeal to end sexism. Hilarious.

    Comment by Interview to Nowhere — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 1:05pm PST  Reply to this post
  • That was funny, but more for the Hillary stuff than the Palin stuff. There’s so much potential there, what with the with the whole ridiculousness of her candidacy. The funnier stuff is happening outside of TV. Like the Sarah Palin Baby Name Generator I just found. http://www.persona-space.com/palin

    Comment by Angela Areca — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 2:50pm PST  Reply to this post
  • As far as getting rid of the Drudge link posters, you don’t see many commenting on industry specific topics such as the SAG elections. Yet are the comments there any less snarky, divisive and bitter? Site traffic is site traffic.

    Comment by Fiftyfoot — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 3:39pm PST  Reply to this post
  • I’m for Obama. Let’s get that straight.

    But when Obama supporters like Matt Damon say she’s like a bad Disney movie, and others say how can someone with hardly any experience be a heart beat away from being president, that’s the pot calling the kettle, black.

    Obama was a community organizer on the southside which was an important job right after the Wisconsin Steel Mill closed. I mean it literally closed overnight. Thousands were suddenly out of a job and with no benefits. (They later sued to collect their benefits and received a small portion of them.) I know this, I worked at the mill at the time on a construction project.

    Then Obama ran for State Rep. in his area and won. Yes he did get the incumbent knocked off the ballot. But he did prove a lot of the names on her ballot were fake. What happened was, she was going to step down as State Rep then she changed her mind at the last moment. So she had to get signitures from the resident in the area that supported her (like at least 1000) to get back on the ballot. Obama challenged the signitures and it became clear a lot of them were forged. Hey, it’s politics. As they say – The Chicago way. So, Obama became the State Rep. But let’s be clear here – The local Aldermen in the Wards have more power and are better known than any state rep in any area.

    Then Obama ran for Senate. His Demorcratic opponent got caught up in a sex scandal and had to drop out right before the primary. He was beating Obama in the polls at the time. So Obama won pretty much by default.

    Then Obama ran against the Republican candidate in the general. His name was (Jack?) Ryan. The election was coming up fast and Ryan also got caught up in a sex scandal, involving his ex-wife, the actress Jeri Ryan. It was revealed in their divorce docs that he made her go to sex clubs in New York and have sex with strangers while he watched. (I’m guessing there must be a lot of horny politicans in Chicago on both sides of the aisle). So Ryan dropped out of the race and Obama was home free. He basically won the senate seat through TWO deflauts.

    So if Matt Damon and Annette Bening want to see Obama become president, like I do…

    SHUT THE F! UP! about Palin’s lack of experience.

    Obama in ‘08!

    Comment by The Chicago Guy — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 3:52pm PST  Reply to this post
  • On the tonight show with Jay Leno,his actor does real terrific job of lampooning Senator Obama in Jay’s interview segment. It’s real fun to watch.

    Comment by chuck — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 4:07pm PST  Reply to this post
  • When will you Americans talk about the issues? You know, instead of endlessly disparaging the character of your candidates until election day, at which point everyone wakes up and says “wait, I didn’t vote for that…”

    This applies to both GOP and Dems.

    I mean, all the partisans who froth at the mouth one way or the other are just selfish jerks venting their rage. I think they WANT more of the same so that they can keep the cable news commentator gigs and up the valuation of their Web sites.

    Enough.

    Comment by Daniel — September 14, 2008 @ 8:30 am

    Daniel, if there’s one single thing that unites most Americans, regardless of their personal politics, is when some pissy foreigner feigns irritation with how we run our lives, our politics or our country. In short: we don’t give a rat’s ass what you think. Maybe you’re not aware of why the “American Experience” was started in the first place: to be diametrically opposite, in every way, shape, and form, from our European forefathers. Thank God most Americans still don’t aspire to model America after other equally (or in most cases, infinitly worse) flawed international models.

    Top of the food chain here, Daniel. Learn to deal with it. Better yet: quit being jealous and generally miserable, adopt our model, and improve your lot in life in your own country. That’s why everyone is clamoring to immigrate here, dimwit.

    Comment by Paul — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 4:08pm PST  Reply to this post
  • First, after watching the entire episode of SNL I was only left thinking “Are the writers still on strike?” Man, it was a really, really bad show… except for the opening 110 seconds. SNL is over.

    Second, the rule for the last 30 years or so is that the candidate who wins the White House is the one who makes the best SNL character. Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush… these were without a doubt the best SNL characters for any given season.

    Third, what is funnier than SNL are the self-professed Democrats/Liberals/Lefties decrying Palin’s “lack” of experience and Obama as an agent of change. Obama has never written a piece of major legislation, has never even chaired a committee. Until he can a campaign staff, he never even ran a bureaucracy or dealt with a budget… and though they mock Palin for a “lack of experience” as a VICE-PRESIDENTIAL candidate, has more than the Democrat PRESIDENTIAL candidate. And as for “change”… Obama picked an angry, gaffe-prone running mate who was elected to the senate 7 months after McCain was released from his prison box… hardly an agent of change.

    Now, why do I put that in an anonymous entertainment blog posting, arguably the lowest of the low forms of expression? (No, Nikki, I am not deriding your blog/site, which is brilliant, you wear your biases on your sleeve, and you sign your name to it.) Because either one doesn’t lend the Democrats to any real argument for their main tenants of their campaign, so they do exactly what they have been doing, which is spread lies, spin and try to present satire as fact. My inbox is filled every day with FWD: emails from otherwise intelligent studio executives and Hollywood talent circulating outright lies as if every one of them have had a personal fight with Palin for 13 years (when she was a PTA member and Obama was an unemployed lawyer… both have come a long way). Palin’s list of banned books, including many titles that were not even published when she tired to “burn” them? Debunked immediately as a lie, but was sent around anyway and repeatedly. People “know” Palin believes that people walked around with Dinosaurs? Debumked, but repeated ad infinitum. Palin decreased spending on mentally handicapped programs in Alaska? Another outright lie. Palin posed semi-nude with automatic weapons? Photoshop, just like your movie posters.

    I hope that these idiotic emails keep getting sent around. The zealots and people who have already made up their mind just get more entrenched in their position and more and more gleefully spastic and shout their “truths” as loud as they can… and those 11% of undecided voters in those 8 swing states are more likely to take 20 seconds on Google to verify the lie, and it will do nothing but damage the liars on the left.

    So all I can say is that SNL should open every show for the next seven weeks with Tina Fey as Palin and it will create an anomaly in American politics… and this year the best vice-presidential character on SNL will determine who wins the national election.

    Comment by WhateverMan — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 4:12pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Joe Piscopo and Anthony Michael Hall were on SNL?

    Vote.

    Comment by Rudi — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 4:22pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Hey, just keep on smearing Sarah Palin, liberals, and watch her and McCain go all the way to the White House. Their campaign is even having a huge effect on races for the House and Senate, with the Blue Dog Democrats seeking to distance themselves from the Obama campaign in their own elections.

    Obama? Eloquent, yes (but only on a teleprompter). Depth and substance, no. He has only worked 143 days in the Senate. The place he seeked “change” in Chicago? The crime levels are higher than in Bagdad! And it was Bill Clinton who said that Obama practiced typical Chicago “thug” politics. So what has Obama done, uh, uh, uh, let’s see…voted on a bill that would have been AGAINST banning partial-birth abortions (you know what partial birth is, right, where they take the baby apart in the womb at nine months), voted to have sex education in preschool (wow, he’s really concerned about our babies and kids, isn’t he, don’t want to “punish” the mother with a baby, right), promises to reinstate the death tax and have forced health care for everyone, whether they want it or not (and make them pay for it whether they want to or not), promises to also disarm the U.S. of all nuclear weapons basically (Russia and Iran are probably dancing with glee at the thought of Obama as president). And of course Hamas endorsed Obama – how much better can it get??

    Comment by Amelia — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 4:41pm PST  Reply to this post
  • finally got it! Sarah Palin is a cartoon character! no human could be that frightening

    Comment by truth — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 4:54pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Politicians have saved the show from total ruin for years. I think that somehow Lorne Michaels orchestrated Palin being chosen because she looks like Fey.

    Does Michaels have photos of a GE/NBC executive with farm animals?

    Comment by John — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 6:20pm PST  Reply to this post
  • America!

    Here are you candidates for the next President and V President, Tina and Amy.

    Comment by Armand — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 6:23pm PST  Reply to this post
  • I wish that someone had had the forsight to video tape the improv shows that Fey and Poehler appeared in at IO in Chicago back in the Armando Diaz Hootenanny days. (The list of their fellow players could go on forever, so I’ll just mention those two.)

    UCB’s ASSSSCAT DVD comes close, but oh the talent that appeared on IO’s stage starting back in 1995.

    I think that Michaels has really blown it by never staging a forty five minute set in Chicago (via a one hour show) of pure improv at least once over the past thirty plus years. The New Orleans show might have been tough to pull off way back in 1977, but a prime time Chicago show would have been perfect.

    Comment by John in Illinois — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 10:33pm PST  Reply to this post
  • All this talk about personalities, experience, Hillary, Palin. The media is (successfully) whipping the public into a frenzy. Palin is clearly a media darling–not that the media is all FOR her, she just makes a great, compelling character on television–a small town gun toting gal–imagine that–she could get to the big leagues. Compelling reality tv.

    Anyway, wipe off all the lipstick and get to the core of each side.

    First, write down the ten things that matter to you most.

    Second, write down how you feel about those issues and what you believe should be done.

    Finally, look up the party platforms that were adopted at the conventions.

    http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/

    http://www.demconvention.com/assets/downloads/2008-Democratic-Platform-by-Cmte-08-13-08.pdf

    Which party do you align with?

    That is the person you should vote for. Forget the reality show shenanigans perpetuated by the media (and the political parties) to garner ratings and confuse you. Only YOU know what’s important to YOU. So make up your own mind by doing a little reading about the parties’ core values.

    Experience won’t matter nearly as much as everyone thinks. In the end, the office of the presidency is more than one man. It is a think tank with one man (or woman’s) face.

    Comment by DMS — Sunday September 14, 2008 @ 11:39pm PST  Reply to this post
  • @”
    That’s what I thought. Put a little “D” or “R” next to a name and the rules change for your guy/gal.

    Comment by Mike Scott — September 14, 2008 @ 5:29 am ”

    Considering a bit more than 2 years ago Howard Dean openly courted and nearly had McCain in the Democratic camp to be the DNC candidate for THIS election and everyone on the left was soiling themselves with glee over the thought and now somehow believe him to be synonymous with Bush proves your point quite well actually.

    @Comment by Awakenedcitizen — September 14, 2008 @ 2:10 am

    You really can’t be that dim can you? You really don’t know that BOTH parties tack on the name of the people they are ‘annointing’ as their golden boys on every piece of legislation that comes down the pike? Didn’t that fact get pretty much drilled into your head everytime you see Obama attempt to speak extemporaneously and end up sounding like a slightly better version of Bush while doing it?
    He gives good teleprompter but that’s about it.

    I’m sorry. I would have been prepared to vote for a democrat if they trotted out someone who had actual experience. Obama can bash Palin all he wants on experience but the fact remains her job will be to keep a seat in the Senate warm for 4 years, Obama’s will be making decisions that he can’t vote ‘present’ on.
    Also having a walking blooper as his VP candidate who also happens to make more than a few incredibly racist remarks to be deemed just ’slips of the toungue’ doesn’ help either.

    We are stuck with sub-standard choices once again folks. Enjoy 4 more years of mediocrity.

    Comment by manny — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 12:54am PST  Reply to this post
  • All right, this is getting downright silly.

    First, enough with the “liberal bias” in the media. There is no such thing. Only to the extent there is “conservative bias” in corporate CEOs. And don’t get me started on which one actually has more power.

    The media doesn’t have a liberal bias. The people who tend to become reporters are the kind of people who tend to be questioning, empathetic, fair, and curious. Yes, these are liberal tags.

    Why do you think most writers are liberals? Our job is to constantly put ourselves in other people shoes and discover who they are, what they would do, and what they would say.

    Liberals tend to question authority, while Conservatives tend to want to be in charge. Liberals want to protect the minority while Conservatives want to convince the minority to just let them handle everything.

    Why do you think the most successful liberal talking heads are comedians (Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert) and the most successful conservative talking heads are former CEOs?

    Liberals have this terrible weakness for trying to be fair. So all of you conservatives crying over the liberal media need to put a sock in it. It’s a dumb argument that just lets you believe anything you want without being questioned. Also, a very conservative thing to want to do.

    And let’s all stop pretending that it actually matters how many Bush Doctrines there might be.

    If there were four, or it was a transcient term, Palin’s response would have been “which one do you mean, Charlie?”

    Her response “In what way, Charlie?” means she either thought there was one (which means those arguing there is more than one are saying she was wrong) or she had never heard the term and was buying a little time.

    I saw the interview, I’m not a moron…she didn’t know what he meant.

    Argue about that all you want. It doesn’t matter. She has zero foreign policy experience. None.

    My concerns about Barack Obama’s foreign policy experience have been calmed by his remarkable intelligence, his ability to speak very difinitively about specific foreign policy issues, and his selection of Joe Biden as his running mate.

    The only thing that would make me feel better about Sarah Palin’s lack of experience in this area is if John McCain were about 30 years younger.

    And by the way, who gives a rat’s ass if she was a mayor and a governor? The current sitting president was a two term governor of a state that was actually very populous, and he turned out to be an embarassment that 70 percent of the population currently disapprove.

    Over the past couple of years, I think Barack Obama has shown the intelligence and temperament to be a commander in chief. So has McCain. So has Biden.

    So far, all I got from Sarah Palin is that she can repeat the same speech an awful lot. And that she thinks the best way to defend a lie is to tell it again.

    She seems like a pleasant woman. A great story. Even a pretty good governor.

    But she’s not ready to step in if something happens to McCain. She’d make George Bush look like a genius. And if you don’t believe me, remember how much George Bush has made Bill Clinton look like a genius.

    Comment by Jimmy — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 2:06am PST  Reply to this post
  • Jimmy, you are soooo full of BS.

    First, of course Palin didn’t know what “Bush Doctrine” meant. Neither did you. It has NEVER been an act, law, executive order or suggestion from the executive branch, ever. It means different things to every journalist who uses it. Krauthammer invented the term in the Summer of 2001, Newsweek uses it in a different context, Time in another, and raving politicans use it as some ephemeral boogeyman catch-all phrase. It has no definition, nor does it have any definition pegged to it. You can’t even say what it means… because you don’t know. It’s like the word “classic”, the phrase “comprehensive immigration reform”, or the term “friend” in Hollywood… just about meaningless and means different things by the sayer and listener. It’s a program for inaction and sidebar… and you know it and are trying to make fun of someone. Or you don’t and are making fun of yourself without realizing it.

    Your comment about the media NOT having a liberal bias shows your colors. It’s a joke, and you can repeat it all you want, along with your glowing list of BS and prejudicial adjectives, designed to give slant. Your arrogance is the downfall of your stance. After all, if liberals really were questioning and curious, they would have feretted out the outright lies in Obama’s first book (try looking at AmericanThinker.com for some well-documented debunking of Obama’s claims). If liberals really were curious they would look at Obama’s proposed tax policy, where he is talking about people paying less taxes than they did under Clinton in 1996… and ignoring the fact that taxes have been cut TWICE since then. He wants to reign in NAFTA and blames Republicans against it, and NAFTA was initiated and signed by Clinton. He wants to rail against ExxonMobil, when it was Clinton in 1999 who granted the oil exploration and merger tax cuts and then signed off on the merger. Hmm… not a lot of questioning going on there, is there?

    Yes, the Prez right now has 64% disapproval rating (Reuters, five minutes ago)… and the Congress has a 87% disapproval rating. THAT doesn’t bode well for three of the four people on the two tickets, does it.

    But hey, you would rather think highly of yourself rather than have a discussion, wouldn’t you? Never mind the hypocracy, your intentions give you carte blanche to execute any tactics you wish.

    And your line about international experience is really funny. Obama has none, either. He was a tourist, he lived abroad as a child. He’s never negotiated, never made policy, never intervened or even ever made an initiative. He did make a speech in Berlin, and he advocates moving the US to an unsustainable social and financial system that is collapsing all over Europe – thus the election of Merkel, Berlosconi (three times now) and Sarkozy to change course.

    Clinton has ZERO international experience except for some joints at his 9 months at Oxford, but no trade or executive experience.

    If liberals were questioning and curious, why wouldn’t they point out that in the last 100 years, ever single time taxes were raised in an economic downturn, it has resulted if sustaining or deepening the downturn? This is not a broad statement, this is provable in any Western democratic, capitalistic system since 1909. Look it up. Obama certainly hasn’t… but then his entire goal is to buy votes with money that isn’t his, which in itself is brilliant.

    Barack Obama cannot speak definitively on international issues, another lie of yours. What he can do is say “We will talk to everyone” and the ever-questioning liberal press never discloses that is what we have been trying to do for three years, directly and via intermediaries, with Iran. And what he dodges regularly is the question “What happens when it doesn’t work?” He cannot even so much as tell what his objective is in these “talks”, a side effect of his brilliant speech giving… he cannot conceive a delivery does not command a response.

    Liberals don’t try to be fair. They try to be united, and they cannot even do that. They are subject to more group rationalization than any other body, and half of their time is spent telling each other how superior they are for their good intentions and never actually getting around to doing something to prove it.

    The Hollywood claptrap I have been putting up with for 20 years is evidence of that… when liberals talk politics, they only talk about it with other liberals, and openly and actively cost any conservative any business or promotion (which is why I need to post anonymously, and the threat is explicit and not even tacit)… and the Hollywood vein is worse than other factions, as they don’t even pause to think that they every day create, preserve and propagate the most conservative, Republican industry in the United States.

    Comment by WhateverMan — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 3:35am PST  Reply to this post
  • Liberal celebs like Matt Damon,Cybil Shepartd and Annette Bening create PR problems for themselves. Especially when a movie is out and they express thier politics. Example: when Bening came out and criticized Palin. Matt Damon did the samething. Don’t underestimate thier fanbases turning on them at one point. How? Look at Oprah growing veiwers are pushing for a boycott of her show. In Damon and Bening cases the fanbase will turn. And Bill O’Reilly is going to call it on them. He’s call it Matt Damon already.

    Comment by chuck — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 7:08am PST  Reply to this post
  • WhateverMan…you did a nice job impeaching your own arguments.

    I had actually heard of the Bush Doctrine to mean the same thing Charlie Gibson did. But let’s say you’re right, it’s a made up term.

    Then her response “In what way, Charlie?” shows her ignorance, right? Shouldn’t it have been “There’s really no such thing, Charlie”?

    She’s either dumb or wrong, and I’m not sure why you keep arguing dumb is better than wrong. Well, wait, maybe I do.

    Since I’m not running for the highest office in the land, who gives a crap if I know it? I’m not required to know it. She is. She didn’t.

    And your whole argument against mine about liberals in the media seems to be saying they are just really bad at their jobs? Agreed. Now more than ever, they are terrible. You point out a bunch of shortcomings of their questioning of Barack Obama, but completely omit their nearly shameful behavior in the lead up to the war in Iraq.

    Remember Iraq? The war that has been so mishandled and destructive that we are now supposed to think that the success of the surge at getting the shit back to shoe level is some amazing Republican success?

    I am not lying if my opinion is that Barack Obama speaks intelligently about foreign policy issues. I’ve seen several interviews (you know, he’s done more than ONE) where he clearly knows what he’s talking about. You can disagree, but you can’t call me a liar.

    Oh wait, sure you can. You’re a Republican. Disagreement is not allowed. So I must be a liar.

    And thanks for reminding me that Clinton had zero international experience. Whether you’re talking about Bill or Hillary, you get the same answer. Yes, but they are smart enough and have always spoken intelligently about them. It doesn’t replace real experience, but at least they could handle themselves. It’s a concern, but it never kept me up at night.

    Sarah Palin has not shown that same skill. Not yet. Will she? Since she and her surrogates actually think that talking about how Alaska is close to Russia and a vacation to Mexico is supposed to make me feel better…I’m betting not.

    And to me, she just doesn’t seem that smart. Politcally savvy? Yes. Smart on policy? No. Why would she be? She’s been a governor of a very small state for about 10 minutes. She’s never been remotely involved in national politics. She’s a novice.

    I don’t hold that against Sarah Palin. I hold it against the nominee for Vice President of the United States.

    That’s my opinion. I’m sure you disagree, which means I must be a liar.

    Comment by Jimmy — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 7:54am PST  Reply to this post
  • Thanks, Nikki. That was fun. Tina Fey is perfect as Palin!
    Also, hope you’re feeling better. We need to have at least one industry reporter bulldog in Hollywood.

    Comment by Wannabe industry analyst — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 7:56am PST  Reply to this post
  • Yeah man, that liberal media IS a joke! I just sit there and watch Fox news and I’m thinking….man, they have their head shoved sooooooo far up Obama’s a$$. They like, “love” him.

    Enough!

    Comment by shaun — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 11:14am PST  Reply to this post
  • Well, Jimmy, being a liar is more a side effect of your liberal intellectual inbreeding than your character.

    You cannot even separate what has been said by Palin and what has been said about Palin.

    Disagreement IS allowed. Intelligent discourse is also encouraged. I’m just not going to be able to get it from you. You cannot tell the difference – or will not, I’m not sure – between Palin and Tina Fey’s Palin.

    You cannot even figure out what “what is” and “what I have heard”. If you read National Review, then you heard Bush Doctrine as one thing. If you read Newsweek, you have heard another. But what you haven’t heard is someone in government ever saying what it is. And it is irrelevant, and Gibson used it to be ambiguous and baiting, a cheap shot, representative of his entire interview.

    You can not like her, not agree with her, but she isn’t dumb. And railing against her lack of experience and that she has been a governor for 10 minutes… well, she was elected in the same election season that put Obama in the Senate and national politics for the first time. And when she got the job, she did something. Obama started running for President the second he got to the hill and has NEVER done anything as a Senator – no legislation, no initiative, no leadership. Look up Biden’s Democratic nominee debate comments on Obama as more proof. Palin got the job and fixed things. If you don’t believe me, ask any Alaskan.

    The fact remains that the R VP Candidate has more experience than the D Presidential Candidate. You might not agree with her, or like her, but at least you could do it for reasons you can define and enunciate and not make up based on FWD emails.

    Obama can give speeches, but he can’t talk. And what he will do to the economy should make you very afraid, but you aren’t going to think that far ahead.

    And the one thing you still can’t quite get your head around is that Obama does not offer policy, he vocalizes regret. That is not a substitute. The policies he wants are going to cause more economic and sociological harm to this country than Hoover. Iraq is a regret and a long discussion as to how much went wrong, but you seem to forget it was a mistake a nation made, not one party. (I have had friends and family there, and family in Afghanistan.)

    Even Obama’s anti-Iraq text (though he was not on the national scene and was a state senator) had to do with that there was a disproportionate number of blacks in the ground force military and had nothing to do with seeing the truth of intelligence or international relations.

    Now, how do we tie this into a Hollywood blog? Well, lets look at the economics and performance of our industry. If people agreed with you, then ANY of the Iraq-effect/anti-Iraq movies would have been a success, as the population would have voted their agreement with their dollars instead their disgust with their feet. From Elah to Grace is Gone to Stop-Loss, The Hollywood Liberalism has failed their business and the society they profess to lead (and not serve, or even listen to).

    Comment by WhateverMan — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 1:34pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Wow. A lot of partisan bickering in response to this post. That skit must’ve hit more than a few nerves.

    As for all of the pissing and moaning above about how biased the media is, that’s a load of crap. The media is only biased in one direction – the direction of their pocket books. You know, where their money goes. Every right-winger I’ve ever met likes to carry on about the “liberal media”, while the far-left leaners I have run into will bend your ear for hours about how the Republicans control the media. If you think that the media is giving Obama a free pass, you must be forgetting how quickly they jumped onto that whole Reverend Wright mess. McCain has changed his position about most of the issues that earned him a reputation as a maverick, like his position on the abortion debate and immigration, among others, and I haven’t seen that mentioned anywhere but on the Daily Show. Did they unfairly pummel Palin after her daughter’s pregnancy became public knowledge? Sure, but were you honestly expecting them to do otherwise? Stories like that drive ratings and make money. And ever since the news shows got put on the ratings system instead of being a public service provided by the networks, they have been slaves to ratings just like every other show on TV. If it had been Obama’s daughter or whomever’s daughter, they would have done the same. For the money. Certain news services like Fox are noticeably slanted to one side or another, because they can make money from providing news that slants in one direction – there is a market there to be tapped and money to be made. And Fox has made it, hand over fist – they certainly have made regular viewers out of several who commented here today. MSNBC has been veering toward doing the same for the Left in recent months, although if the removal of Olbermann as anchor is any indication, they may have changed their minds.

    All I’m saying here is that just because your don’t hear whatever your own political opinions happen to be parroted back at you 24/7 by the media doesn’t mean they are biased. It means you are. And if they *are* biased, it has nothing to do with their political views and everything to do with money. Wake up and smell the really expensive coffeee, will you?

    Comment by Tired of the Partisan Mambo — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 2:05pm PST  Reply to this post
  • I’m sorry “whateverman” but what specifically about Obama’s economic model should “scare us”? Oh right, the current situation we’re in is so “bang-up” why would we want a change?

    Comment by shaun — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 3:29pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Fox IS to the right, but at least they have liberals come on and challenge them. MSNBC/Olberman and now Maddow, just have the deck stacked with liberals. They spend their time just knocking McCain and Palin. No one challenges them.

    If McCain and Palin suddenly decided they were for gay marriage, I bet dollars to doughnuts that Rachel Maddow and others would change her tone about them in a New York second. Because it serves THEM, and that is what’s most important. Who gives a crap about the rest of the country.

    Obama in ‘08.

    Comment by I'm not gay or republican — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 3:37pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Umm… shaun, you are cherrypicking the basis for retorts.

    Economics, social science and history shows that EVERY time in a Westernized capitalistic economy that raising taxes during a downturn first entrenches and then amplifies the economic malaise. The last time it was done was Carter. Also Hoover, even FDR’s first term. FDR at least made a 180 when he realized his mistake.

    You get your paycheck from a company. When that company has it’s tax load increased 15% (which is Obama’s plan) while facing sliding sales, that means layoffs, which means more people on the public dole, which means Obama then reaches back to the companies to take more money from them.

    Like it or not, poor and broke companies do not give other people jobs.

    So, look up post-WWI Germany, post WWII France, post WWI and WWII England (the rise of the Labor Party), look at Brazillian reconstruction in the 60s and 70s. Look at what has happened to non-oil Venezualen markets in the last six years. Look at Columbia in the 70s vs. this last decade. Look at Spain in the 50s. Look at the havoc Italian economic policy has wrought in the last 30 years – their population is now declining because people cannot even afford to have kids. Look at the Thatcher’s economic boom.

    Look at… oh nevermind… you aren’t going to look up anything.

    As for what has happened this last six months – and I am down about $80,000 in the market in that time – is not good. But it is part of the free market and giving companies AND INDIVIDUALS the ability and resources to better – or hang – themselves. We had a broken system since 1946 and commission-based salaries (remember, WWII got us out of the depression and when military spending was ended we had base physical resources but no real cash flow – even te GI Bill was debt financed), so companies turned to commission rather than salary and it because intrenched. When interest rates were low (and I never saw you/the left complaining about that 5 years ago) we had real estate agents, mortgage brokers and underwriters all working off percentages, so at the very base level the system was set up to reward cheaters who pushed mortgages through the system to collect their aggregate 2.5% and let larger institutions take ALL the risk. When one big bank started it, the others joined in. Well, not all of them, but enough to make a lot of people making stupid decisions routinely.

    That’s not Bush’s fault… it was a problem with the very system as it was not built for logenvity or structural integrity. Hopefully now that gets fixed, and the people who lost their money on mortgages or investments, frankly, deserve it. I just wish it didn’t cause a panic in other sectors of the market like it did today.

    But the fundamentals of our economy, where people CAN start their own businesses, are strong. This is a hit, not a knockout. Same thing happened in October 1987, in Russia in 1998, but it is the adoption of a fundmentalist capitalistic system that provides for long term survival.

    Now, take that away and use taxes to punish the successful and reward the unlucky or undeserving with unearned benefits, and you have a problem, but also an economic system that cannot be sustained. Just ask the Danish, the Swedes, the Germans…

    Jimmy, I hope you learned something about economics. I doubt it, though.

    Comment by WhateverMan — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 5:21pm PST  Reply to this post
  • And now Barbara Walters is threatening to fire token Republican Elisabeth Hasselbeck just so the show can be all Democrat.

    Wasn’t there a time when Babawa was a journalist of some sort? Now she believes in silencing opinion.

    Comment by Egg — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 5:46pm PST  Reply to this post
  • It’s beyond brilliant. Sadly, there’s not enough of this around, and this scary woman will end up in the White House.

    Comment by Ben — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 6:48pm PST  Reply to this post
  • The only thing that perplexes me today is why Chevy Chase was ever considered a comedian. The man is a living testimonial to how far lack of talent can take you in Hollywood.

    Comment by AaronSch — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 6:57pm PST  Reply to this post
  • God help us all if that ultra conservative, gun-hugging tramp gets to be VP!! I’ll leave the country.

    Comment by Mike — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 8:05pm PST  Reply to this post
  • “use taxes to punish the successful”

    While we are on the same side of the aisle, nothing says “partisan blowhard” more than than above, with the possible exception of “redistribution of wealth”.

    While I agree with the rest of your post (impressive) take a break from the propaganda and be aware that there are several non left-leaning economists who grudgingly believe a dreaded tax hike is necessary to shrink the current deficit.

    Comment by B — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 10:45pm PST  Reply to this post
  • For all those who keep threatening to leave the country every time their “Dream Team” loses. I have a pickup and it holds six. No luggage.

    Comment by JT — Monday September 15, 2008 @ 11:01pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Hey, Mike… why wait. Move to Canada now. You won’t be missed. Besides, Alec Baldwin, Cheryl Crow and Babs would like the company.

    Oh wait, none of them had the balls to follow through with anything but whining, either.

    Comment by WhateverMan — Tuesday September 16, 2008 @ 12:58am PST  Reply to this post
  • If barbara walters was to fire Hasslebeck from her show,Bill O’Reilly would be on top of it to make sure the show was embarrassed by such a stupid act. Further her show would lose viewers.

    Comment by chuck — Tuesday September 16, 2008 @ 9:01am PST  Reply to this post
  • >>God help us all if that ultra conservative, gun-hugging tramp gets to be VP!! I’ll leave the country.

    Comment by Mike — September 15, 2008 @ 8:05 pm<<

    Is that a promise? And where are you going to live, sweetcheeks? I hear Iraq is a fabulous place for a summer home.

    Comment by Crystal Diane Stevens — Tuesday September 16, 2008 @ 9:26am PST  Reply to this post
  • Hey “Whateverman”…thank you. You responded with actual points and that at least separates you from the herd just spouting out rhetoric. Which, obviously both sides do. You were able to step up to the plate and at least seemingly back you’re Republican view. Now, I’m not saying you’re right, I need time to research your points; I’m like McCain in that I’m not a economist…which is a dig on both of us. I’m sorry you lost 80,000; you and I are completely different creatures but I don’t wish you misfortune. Unless you were the guy in the BMW who cut me off on the 405, then I probably wished you a little misfortune….say 20 bucks worth.

    Comment by shaun — Tuesday September 16, 2008 @ 10:38am PST  Reply to this post
  • shaun: Sorry, I don’t drive a BMW but I think that same jerk did it to me this morning in Century City.

    Crystal Diane Stevens: I know nothing about you than your post, but you are hot.

    B: if you have listened to Obama’s speeches in the last two weeks, “taxes punish the successful” is NOT party rhetoric… it’s what he is advocating. He was retroactive, in-arrears taxes applied when he deems some companies/industries have made “too much money”. ExxonMobil made 10.4 billion, then something like 16 billion in quarterlies… but the company is so huge their return was more like 9% annualized Return on Investment. By comparison, Apple makes about 24%. See’s Candies makes about 16%.

    So let’s bring this back to entertainment (and forgive the rerun from an earlier post of mine). THE DARK KNIGHT will make about 550% ROI once it is sold into syndication. With numbers like that, why wouldn’t a President Obama would feel entitled to make taxes retroactive and take more from WB, the filmmakers and financers? An Obama has no business interfering in business, which is what he feels entitled to do “for your own good:.

    Now, in terms of investments… I haven’t lost any money yet. Yes, valuation is down, but I bought companies I believe in and I haven’t sold any shares. You only lose when you sell, and never sell when you are desperate. I will hold my shares and see where we are in a year, and I am confident prices will come back.

    Comment by WhateverMan — Tuesday September 16, 2008 @ 1:00pm PST  Reply to this post
  • Tina Fey got Sarah Palin down! It’s so irreverently funny: why would anyone not laugh? Regardless of whether you are Republican or Democrat. It’s just funny!! Kind of like when George W. Bush got a look-a-like and played with them doing Bush’s malapropisms. The news media was laughing their head off, and I was laughing too. Upstaged Steven Colbert. I heard that Palin said she went to a Halloween party dressed as Tina Fey.

    Forget Barack, forget Joe, forget John, we should have Tine Fey and Sarah Palin go around and keep us laughing!

    Hey, I’ll vote for Sarah Palin, oops it’s really John McCain just to see Tina do Sarah for the next four years.

    Comment by watchman — Friday September 19, 2008 @ 9:02pm PST  Reply to this post
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