The AMPTP today sent the following message to its employers:
“We are disappointed to report that the federal mediation efforts between SAG and AMPTP failed in the early morning hours of Saturday, November 22nd, when mediator Juan Carlos Gonzalez ended the process.
“The mediation failed for one fundamental reason: SAG continued unrealistically to insist on a substantially better deal than all of the other major Hollywood Guilds and Unions have negotiated so far in 2008.
In the end, it was clear that SAG was not serious about using the mediation process to make a deal. Instead, SAG appears to have manipulated the mediation process in an attempt to achieve precisely the result it has wanted all along: A strike by SAG members.
“SAG has not justified why it deserves to be treated differently than the industry’s other Guilds and Unions – particularly at a time of extraordinary economic distress for both the country and the entertainment business. SAG refuses to deviate from its unrealistic position, even continuing to cling to its proposal to change the DVD residual formula.
“AMPTP has already negotiated six major labor agreements in 2008 alone, including the pact just concluded with IATSE. We are prepared to conclude an agreement with SAG, but we simply do not see any justification for SAG receiving more than we have offered – a deal that is every bit as good as the ones the industry’s other Guilds and Unions have negotiated in far better economic times.
“AMPTP’s offer to SAG members is fair and strong – and at least until now, we have kept the offer on the table despite the precipitous economic decline of the last several months. Whether we will be able to continue to do so in the face of the economic downturn remains to be seen. We are now prepared to continue explaining the merits of our offer in every way that we possibly can. The more SAG members understand about the fairness and strength of our offer, especially during a time of historic economic distress, the less likely they will be to authorize a strike.
“We will also continue to place the burden squarely on SAG to explain why it deserves better deals than the other entertainment Guilds received earlier this year — particularly in light of the fact that the earlier deals were negotiated during better economic times, and SAG is attempting to reach a deal now during a period of tremendous economic upheaval.
“Finally, and most importantly, SAG should understand that a strike would be economically devastating to the entire industry, including its own members, as well as to the overall economy. The unreal timing of the call by SAG for a strike in the midst of one of the worst economic crisis the global system has ever faced, demonstrates once and for all that SAG is completely out of touch with reality. A SAG strike in this financial meltdown would be like pouring gasoline on a fire, and it is astonishing that SAG would call for a strike vote when the rest of the country is reeling from an unprecedented financial crisis.
“Make no mistake about this: If SAG members authorize a strike, then a strike is all but guaranteed because SAG has shown no willingness to compromise on its unrealistic demands. Simply put, a vote to authorize a strike will lead inexorably to a strike, and a strike would cost SAG members far more than they can ever expect to gain.
“In short, over the coming days and weeks, AMPTP will continue vigorously to communicate our fundamental position: The six other labor agreements Producers have made this year couple significant economic gains with groundbreaking new media rights. The new media template simply cannot be abandoned at this point because it will undermine our industry’s ability to compete in this new market. The bottom line is clear: No strike authorization – and no strike – can change these basic facts.
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.


AMPTP… You aren’t even honoring the WGA contract you signed so what does it matter if SAG demands more? You don’t have any intention of paying anyway.
If you wanted to, you could just dip into the BILLIONS you’ve made on home video formats over the years (money you once promised but never shared with the Guilds), and stop being so incredibly disrespectful to the actors and writers that helped generate huge profits for you.
As an outsider (small satellite biz owner/former BtLer), may I please ask…or better yet; BEG all eligible SAG members to actually VOTE when the authorization ballots go out?!!??!
I realize that a vote that simply gives or doesn’t give authorization to strike belies the complicated nature of the situation; on the one hand you want to give your NegComm all the leverage you can, to get you the best deal possible, on the other, you don’t necessarily trust the controlling components of your NegComm to do everything possible to avoid more strife in our struggling economy before pulling the “trigger”.
My point is that whether or not authorization is given, weak voter participation will emasculate SAG, showing the AMPTP that membership doesn’t find this situation important enough to weigh in on, and if a strike authorization is given by 75%+ of a mere, say, 10% of membership, attendance at picket lines is not likely to be any more enthusiastic. If SAG members don’t care enough to weigh in, in significant numbers, how can you expect sister unions and the public to support your actions?
Now, I don’t want a strike any more than the next person, but I’ve been pro-labor my entire professional life, and if I must lose everything as a result of a Labor Action, then I must. Just please, please, PLEASE don’t make it be because a majority of the membership didn’t care enough to vote.
I BEG of you, SAG membership; VOTE!!! Vote with your conscience and your convictions, whatever they may be. Just VOTE!!!!!!!!!
Boy, I would have never known we were in extreme economic distress if I wasn’t told 20 times by the AMPTP.
That being said, SAG HAS to tread carefully here. They can’t come off as greedy no matter what. They have to focus on the fact that the AMPTP hasn’t honored the other deals as the reason that they are unwilling to accept the same deal.
The AMPTP are a bunch of liars. We learned it in the WGA strike and we it has been proven since. The AMPTP has not paid a single promised cent to the WGA members, has elongated the streaming window, and has reneged on the DVD deal.
I dont want SAG to strike, but the AMPTP must be broken. They are greedy lying bullies.
And I guess IATSE and the AMPTP did come to an agreement on a new contract. I don’t think I read anything from the IATSE except that some studios are calling it premature.
In any case, given the way you are acting, Nick (Counter) just go ahead and lockout the SAG. That way you can put another TV Season to bed and ruin at least one more including maybe killing the 2009 pilot season.
Just one more thing, I hope you get a super dry turkey for Thanksgiving, like the one in National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation, and choke on the wishbone. That is what you deserve you crook.
By the way, all you deserve for Christmas is a perp walk.
Strike authorization does NOT equal strike.
The only “good faith” the producers understand is faith in fear. Fear of labor, fear of their corporate bosses, and fear for their jobs. So the AMPTP is scared are they? Cewl.
The AMPTP has offered the following to SAG:
1. Give up protections you have had for a while in “Old Media”, some for the past few decades (consent to show your image outside of the original project, Force Majeure, scheduled meal breaks, etc)
2. Agree to the DGA deal wherein almost ALL your union protections will be eliminated.
I just don’t know why anyone would pay union dues to a union that had agreed to the above.
I do not believe that the DGA, AFTRA, IASTE (or at the very least, their members) understand how their financial future has just been eliminated. EVERY piece of entertainment will come primarily through the Internet very, very soon. Therefore, almost ALL projects will be Made-for-New-Media projects.
Guess what the proposed basic union minimum rate is for these projects? THERE ISN”T ONE.
Guess what the proposed basic union overtime protections are for these projects? THERE AREN”T ANY.
Guess what the proposed basic union forced call protections are for these projects? THERE AREN”T ANY.
Guess what the proposed basic union residual structure is for these projects? NONE.
Guess what the proposed basic union protections are for MINORS for these projects? THERE AREN’T ANY.
The list goes on.
Basically the AMPTP proposal strips actors of virtually ALL there basic working condition protections with the exception of Pension & Health contributions.
WHAT THAT MEANS is that only the Federal and State labor LAWS will protect you in Made-for-New-Media. You will be working for State minimum wage, your overtime will be based on State labor laws.
And that’s it.
DGA, AFTRA, and IATSE members: Why aren’t you pissed? Your contract for New Media looks JUST LIKE THIS. (I can’t lump WGA members in here because they KNOW how crappy their deal is. They did NOT want to take it)
The future for the content creators (if they want to work for these Media Corporations) is financially desolate.
Think about it.
By the way, to quote the LA Times today, “Late Friday night, the actors’ guild signaled that it was prepared to ACCEPT THE NEW MEDIA PAY TERMS if studios granted an increase in the residuals actors earn from DVD sales…”
SAG sounds incredibly flexible in that statement PLUS, the actors currently pay for their OWN Pension and Health contributions from their DVD checks. The increase they asked for would only put the onus on the Media Corporations to make those contributions themselves, as is the custom with all the other actor earnings. It was not so much a RAISE SAG was looking for, but an even treatment of the P&H payments.
Not only was this fair, but it would have shown GOOD FAITH that these Media Companies would INDEED revisit this New Media deal in 3 years. Based on the fact they have NEVER revisited that 20 year-old DVD deal, the unions (SAG & WGA, at least) have little faith that The Media Corporations will ever revisit the New Media deals that have been agreed to.
Additionally, history is full of strikes during “good financial times” and “bad financial times”. What would be a very bad idea is selling out not only 120,000 people’s ability to make any kind of a living, but the ability of ALL future actors’ ability as well.
Finally, a “strike authorization” is a tool of leverage in order to hopefully get a deal in place. Anyone who has been involved in personal negotiations knows that unless you have the ability to say “no” you have no leverage with which to negotiate the deal.
A “strike authorization” simply gives the SAG leadership the ability to negotiate effectively. It does not mean that SAG is going to strike.
Good points by anonymous (2). The WGA deal was voted on by only 35% of WGA members, with the AMPTP touting that 92% of the writers (only of that 35%) approved the deal.
As always, for those on whatever side of the issue interested in the truth, here it is:
The 11 to 6 vote had ZERO to do with mediation. That was a completely UNRELATED, UNOFFICIAL vote within the room. That vote was UNRELATED to the matter at hand. No mediator. NO AMPTP.
The VOTE THAT MATTERED was 15 to 2.
15 to 2.
THAT vote included voting members only. NOT alternates. BUT, it DID include newbies – including highly anti-MF, anti-Hollywood members.
The people who voted are people who can’t STAND MF. Who actively campaigned AGAINST MF in the election. People who PUBLICLY INSULTED SAG leadership and MF members throughout this entire negotiation process.
These people watched and listened and participated in the process INSIDE the room, after months of killing MF for it’s “failures,” and, in the end, they put their POLITICS ASIDE and voted in what was CLEARLY the best interest of the membership.
Now, unless you just want to open your blowholes for the sake of scratching your hateful itch – STOP LYING.
This is NOT ABOUT YOU.
in the future, i wish SAG would make voting compulsory.
if one wanted to remain in good standing, he/she would have to vote.
although the AMPTP is cockily betting we won’t muster the 75%,
they sure are blowing alot of hot air about it.
true to their bullying form.
HEADS UP TO NED VAUGHN …
…it was the federal mediator who broke off the negotiations with the
AMPTP, not the SAG negotiating committee.
get your facts straight, hotshot.
SAG has said they are putting together an educational campaign urging members to authorize a strike. This campaign has to show what a strike will do for the union. SAG can’t just simply lay out why the AMPTP sucks. We all know they do. What we need to know is how a strike will end up working in our favor. And what are the odds 75% will vote yes? And what happens if it doesn’t pass? Can’t the AMPTP come back and say, “Um, we’re offering you an even shittier contract now. What are you gonna do about it? Mwahh hahahah!”
No one wants to be out of work now. But no one wants a horrible contract. It’s a lose-lose situation here.
And now comes the AMPTP with “information” to the SAG membership body.
The AMPTP doesn’t want SAG to authorize a strike (of course), so it offers up this “information” to us as if we’re to believe/listen to our opposition, who has continually spread false information about these negotiations, has not paid it’s agreed-upon force majeure payments to SAG, has not paid WGA for it’s agreed-upon payment structure…
I could go on, but intelligent SAG members will know whom to believe.
Just because someone says (prints) something doesn’t mean it’s true. There’s no law that states that the AMPTP has to tell the truth to SAG membership. And from the AMPTP’s track record it’s pretty obvious that the word “honesty” isn’t in their vocabulary, not surprisingly.
Yes, every SAG member should vote. Every SAG member should read the [expletive deleted] that AMPTP is printing. You should read carefully the mail which SAG will soon send to you. Read it ALL so you know what the truth is, but do not be swayed by non-SAG detractors who have self-interests at heart. Then decide for yourselves. Only SAG will vote on the strike authorization – no one else.
As you all dig through the pros and cons of a strike authorization, always remember where the AMPTP “information” is coming from, what their record is on truthfulness and what their ulterior motives are.
Also – to all SAG members who are interested in what actually happened in the negotiation room:
It is THE AMPTP that is engaging in brinksmanship here – NOT SAG.
This press release from the AMPTP – is a LIE.
SAG went to great lengths to try and find common ground.
The AMPTP made NO EFFORT whatsoever.
The AMPTP, led by Nick the Bean Counter, is BANKING on SAG not calling its bluff – THAT’S IT FOLKS – THAT’S THEIR STRATEGY.
And that’s why the final vote from pro AND anti-MF members was 15 to 2.
15 to 2!
Do NOT be fooled by the AMPTP’S LIE: This is NOT a vote to strike. Period.
It IS a vote to empower the negotiating committee, comprised, again, of both pro and ANTI-MF members to be able to walk into the room and tell Nick Counter that he needs to check with his masters, because, WHILE SAG – NO ONE IN SAG – WANTS TO STRIKE AND NEVER HAS?
Unless the producers are prepared to NEGOTIATE in good faith instead of stonewalling and then LYING about what happened and why – SAG WILL STRIKE.
Unless our negotiators have that weapon, there will be a long, long road of defeat after defeat for SAG at the hands of a merciless AMPTP that put all its chips on what they think is SAG’s weakness – and won.
Let our representatives at least have a chance! Vote “YES!” on the strike authorization ballot!
Poor Nikki…they sent you the wrong press release
“We are disappointed to report that the federal mediation efforts between SAG and AMPTP failed in the early morning hours of Saturday, November 22nd, when mediator Juan Carlos Gonzalez ended the process [that guy was muttering something about washing his hands of us and that he was so finished with any more mediations where we were a party but we don’t know why he finally cut us off…].”
“The mediation failed for one fundamental reason: we insist on treating all entertainment industry employees as identical and utterly fungible in their needs [just like all viewers, fans and consumers can only be distinguished by us as to how much of their money they’ll fork over to us unquestioningly, the more they fork over, the better they are]
SAG continued to ignore our fantasy word and totally illogical definition of pattern bargaining [i.e. whatever pittance we’re willing to give to one and later reneg on, every other will get until they get uppity and actually insist that we honor the bargain in which case we have the legal army on speed dial] That SAG would insist on a substantially better deal than all of the other major Hollywood Guilds and Unions have negotiated so far in 2008 scares the living bejeezus out of us unless of course we can give them what they want with our fingers crossed behind our backs and our lawyers at the ready, prepared to argue that we really didn’t mean what we put in out contract like with the new media provisions of the 2008 Minimum Basic Agreement with the Writers Guild of America or in the 2005 TV Theatrical agreement of SAGs where they claim we owe TV actors $60 million dollars for something called ‘force majeure’ which we think our lawyers made up to tease us with, and we’ll happily bankrupt our companies, alienate our consumers, impoverish our shareholders and employees and make the attorneys rich before we pay a single red cent to a writer or actor or anyone but ourselves under those deals. In the end, it was clear that SAG was not serious about accepting our definition of the ‘mediation’ process and take a crappy deal we might honor [or we might not, see the WGA and SAG situations described above]. Instead, SAG appears to have refused to play along with our delusional beliefs about the mediation process in an attempt to achieve precisely the result we think we wanted all along [we’re not sure ‘cause we’re delusional remember?]: A strike by SAG members.”
“Because we’re hung up on the dogma of pattern bargaining or more correctly our tortured definition of it [if it don’t fit, you still gotta live under it] we are unashamedly whining about how SAG has not justified to us why it deserves to be treated differently than the industry’s other Guilds and Unions [a lot of those union guys and gals do jobs that end in –er so they must all be the same, right?] – particularly at a time of extraordinary economic distress for both the country and the entertainment business, an utterly avoidable global economic catastrophe perpetrated by us and our bankster friends and fraternity brothers and their trophy wives, but hey we’re hoping you’ll overlook that inconvenient little truth and side with us because we have the cash, or at least the accountants we pay to tell us that say so…not that we’re going to share any of it with you or that we’ve ever honestly accounted for anything, but it makes us feel self-righteous and powerful, so we’re sticking to this view like Crazy Glue [and if there’s anything we know we know crazy]. SAG refuses to deviate from its unrealistic-from-our-delusional-view position, even continuing to cling to its proposal to change the DVD residual formula. [How dare they demand to be paid for their work…that leaves less for us, the rentier class! The nerve!]”
“AMPTP has already negotiated six major labor agreements in 2008 alone, one of which we broke in only 8 months [that’ll teach those writers to strike against us], including the pact just concluded with IATSE [which is news to Nikki Finke and the membership of IATSE but that’s their fault because they aren’t privy to our hallucinations]. We are prepared to conclude an agreement with SAG [dear God they’re keeping us from obscenely rich folks fun and putting the spotlight on our role as economic parasites so let this be over soon!], but we simply do not see any justification for SAG receiving more than we have offered [maybe we’ll pay them a pittance and maybe not because in our world since we have lawyers who can write one sided deals and everyone else doesn’t, our word is never our word and a written agreement means bupkis] – a deal that to our demented thought processes is every bit as good as the ones the industry’s other Guilds and Unions have negotiated in far better economic times[…pity poor Rupert Murdoch who is now only worth $3 billion and not the $4 billion he was worth a couple of months ago or Sumner Redstone who had to sell some stock to meet a margin call and to keep a blood-sucking trophy wife from taking him in a divorce, the ungrateful harpy! Who knew you can’t make infinite money in perpetuity off of lending money and collecting money from people whose wages are stagnating or declining?]“.
“AMPTP’s offer to SAG members is fair [by crooked casino standards] and strong [as used toilet paper in a Category 5 hurricane] – and at least until now, we have kept the offer on the table despite the precipitous economic decline [caused by the people who advise us in investing] of the last several months. Whether we will be able to continue to do so in the face of the economic downturn remains to be seen [Rupert Murdoch is terrified that he might lose another billion dollars or more so you should feel sorry for him and consider sending him some cash right now before he applies for some of that sweet taxpayer bailout cash…buh-bye Fox Business Channel and hello First National Fox Bank & Business News!]. We are now prepared to continue explaining the illusory merits of our offer in every way that we possibly can [except online because we haven’t a clue how those interwebz work but you should know that we’re going to dominate the business there if we have to lie cheat steal and oppress to make that happen]. The more SAG members understand about the [un]fairness and [utter lack of] strength of our offer, especially during a time of historic economic distress [and the sooner they stop laughing at the utter stupidity of this sentence so far], the less likely they will be to authorize a strike [and we’ll keep our fingers in our ears and loudly sing ‘Mary Had A Little Lamb’ until they start seeing things the way we do].”
“We will also continue to place the burden squarely on SAG [which is easy for us because we have a more than 75 year history of burdening actors with our insanity although we’re pretty new to the ‘screwing up the accounting’ part of our jobs…we’ve only got a few decades experience in the perpetration of those kinds of confidence games] to explain why it deserves different deals than the other entertainment Guilds received earlier this year [to us actors, writers, directors and crew are all employees, same schmame]– particularly in light of the fact that the earlier deals were negotiated before our financial friends’s chimerical creations went nuclear on the global economy, and SAG is attempting to reach a deal now during a period of tremendous economic upheaval [really we had no idea that you can’t get infinitely rich off of scamming middle class and poor people which is why we’re fascinated by government bailouts and money printing…free money forever? That’s what we want.]”
“Finally, and most importantly, SAG should understand that a strike would draw unwanted attention to us and our sharp practices, from not only its own members, as well as from every participant in the economy except for our bankster friends and our bought and paid for politicians. The unreal timing of our forcing SAG into a strike in the midst of one of the worst economic crisis the global system has ever faced [our buddies did that, aren’t they impressive?], demonstrates once and for all that SAG is completely out of touch with our delusional and laughable definition of reality. A SAG strike in this financial meltdown would be like calling the cops on our three card monte game, and it is astonishing that SAG would call for a strike vote when the rest of the country is reeling from an unprecedented financial crisis [caused by our friends and their Ponzi schemes which we stupidly invested in…who knew you can’t get something for nothing for all eternity?].”
“Make no mistake about this: If we can’t convince SAG members to humor our fantasies any longer, then a strike is all but guaranteed because delusional greedy executives whose fantasy world is challenged are bound to make threats and publically open cans of whoop-ass on so many fronts they can’t possibly close. Simply put, a vote to authorize a strike will lead inexorably to a strike [because you can’t challenge our fantasy world, we’re not listening, la-La-LA!!!], and a strike would cost SAG members far more than they can ever expect to gain [hint: no matter what we offer them we’ll do everything we can think of to not pay them just like we’re doing with the writers and new media residuals and the $60 million we owe SAG TV actors for force majeure payments].”
“In short, over the coming days and weeks, AMPTP will continue vigorously to communicate our fundamental position [i.e. we’re going to robotically repeat ourselves…it’s cheaper than hiring a real PR robot which would be cool but Rupert’s freaked about that billion dollars he’s lost and it’s cheaper to keep resending the same nonsensical tripe than paying a real talented PR person to come up with new ways to try and make the crazy seem logical]: The six other labor agreements Producers have made this year couple significant economic gains [well they’re significant until they try to collect on them and then they’ll vanish thanks to dispute resolution processes that like this federal mediation are red herrings] with groundbreaking [hint: you gotta break ground to bury someone or something, never to be heard from again] new media rights. The new media template [that template of pattern bargaining our precious baby delusion which we’ll fight to the death to preserve] simply cannot be abandoned at this point because it will undermine our industry’s ability to compete in this new market [and our magical little world in which only we live]. The bottom line is clear: No strike authorization – and no strike – can change these basic facts [and the fact that we can’t face the rest of the world and acknowledge that we’re wrong].”
“Much mogul love to all in the biz from your BFF, the AMPTP!!!”
AMPTP needs a better PR firm. A freshman in college could tell them their argument suffers argumentum ad populum.
I know, I know, they only speak Latin in college anymore and it’s almost not worth the trouble of remembering it once your out. But the premise is important. As I recall, argumentum ad populum is an argument that professes to be true because a number of others believe it is so.
We end up with fallacies like:
WalMart is the best place to shop.
Domino’s makes the best pizza.
Hugh Jackman is the best looking man in the world.
The AMPTP is offering SAG the best contract.
C’mon AMPTP flack. Give us some facts. Offer one actual reason this is a good deal for SAG besides everyone else in Jonestown enjoyed the Kool Aid.
And thinking people, please don’t buy into this lame not-even-sophomoric logic even if Hugh Jackman is a looker.
Wow! The more I read this statement,the more I sense innate fear and trepidation on the part of the AMPTP. Not for the industry or the financial crisis as a whole, but for themselves in the drag it’s going to be being forced to grind the wheels of Hollywood to screeching halt.
Too bad. Should of thought of that when SAG wanted to negotiate New Media
Remember AMPTP you just now reneged on WGA residuals deal and now the industry is watching what you do with that. Remember you still owe SAG members $60,000,000 I.E Force majeure and lastly,no one will ever forget how they got stiffed by the AMPTP on home video before.
New Media is the new savior and the new frontier for all (not just for the executives running the big media conglomerates) we should all share in it’s promise.
If you want play Scrooge this Holiday season go ahead, but people only watch A Christmas Carol for the redemption of Good over Evil and grace over greed.
Your “My way or the Highway” bullying tactics are hollow at best and your enthusiasm for spinning the financial crisis in your favor is deplorable and unforgivable. After all, your members can still buy their kids gifts this holiday. Shame on you!
Which side do you want to be on AMPTP. It’s not too late.
…And to SAG members who are still on the fence about which way to vote, you can take heart in the fact that the AMPTP will do/try anything to sway you to vote against a strike authorization.
Keep in mind that they are the O-P-P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N in this equation, and that they have repeatedly lied and cheated other guilds out of millions of dollars of income. You can pretty much figure that the truth is the exact opposite of anything they say.
This is a perfect example:
“Make no mistake about this: If SAG members authorize a strike, then a strike is all but guaranteed because SAG has shown no willingness to compromise on its unrealistic demands. Simply put, a vote to authorize a strike will lead inexorably to a strike, and a strike would cost SAG members far more than they can ever expect to gain.” They’re trying to scare you into believing that a strike authorization won’t matter to them, and so would be a de facto strike.
Now think about that: if that were true, why would they be campaigning against it? Because they don’t want it to happen. If they really didn’t care about it, they’d just keep their mouths shut, take it in stride and let it pass by into a strike.
Let’s stay on topic, huh? The authorization vote (whether it will lead to a strike or not) is NOT a strike in itself. The AMPTP just doesn’t want to have that piece of paper thrust in its face because they don’t want a strike either, and they’ll then have to face SAG’s membership resolve.
If you’re a SAG member who is planning on voting against the strike authorization, I ask you (rhetorically): are you saying that you agree to the currently offered contract (have you even read it)? Because that’s the choice you’re making.
You don’t have to believe me – you don’t even have to agree with me about what the AMPTP is attempting. But you can’t deny that the SAG NegCom is doing what’s best for SAG and our membership – for now and our future. The fact that the AMPTP is so vociferously arguing to the SAG membership is pretty telling as to how worried they are.
Now, who you gonna believe – SAG, or the enemy?
To The AMPTP’s Real Press Agent:
You are CORRECT, sir! Brilliantly written. I would laugh even harder were it not for my “extraordinary economic distress”, unless, of course I was “in far better economic times”. Alarmingly, I simply cannot laugh any harder due to the “precipitous economic decline of the last several months” as I’m sure I would have “in far better economic times”. And finally…”We continue to do so in the face of the economic downturn time of historic economic distress …worst economic crisis the global system has ever faced, reeling from an unprecedented financial crisis.” Yep, that’s right, I merely cobbled together all of the breathless and histrionic outbursts of the “cool heads” at AMPTP. Thank God they and their good buds on Wall Street have it all under control!
i will be crossing the picket lines with my own sign saying that i do not support your strike.
If SAG does strike now then they will almost certainly lose the PR battle. They are of course right that they deserve a better deal, not to mention that the AMPTP are reneging on their WGA deal but the studios will still win the PR battle since they can sum it up in soundbite terms.
Actors ARE different. The AMPTP uses them to finance and sell films and TV shows. Alas, nobody buys a ticket based on who the writer, director, or producer is.
To all you kids up until Ed McMahon’s Evil Twin Brother’s post, which is all I can see at the time of my own post.
Imagine my shock of coming home this Sunday eve, expecting a bunch of hysterical irrational name-calling implicitly threatening union-bashing garbage from people too timid to post that hateful crap in their own names …
… only to see a string of thoughtful, funny, insightful, truthful, great posting.
You kids about gave me a heart attack.
I’m stunned.
Keep up the great work!!!
THANK YOU!!!
In solidarity,
sterling
The AMPTP says, “…a vote to authorize a strike will lead inexorably to a strike, and a strike would cost SAG members far more than they can ever expect to gain.” That is a lie, straight up. And it’s not a matter of what SAG hopes to GAIN, it’s a matter of the rollbacks SAG seeks to avoid.
The AMPTP still wants to roll back residuals, by treating New Media residuals differently than those from traditional media. They plan to move all content distribution to New Media. On a net basis over the next couple of decades or more, that is a HUGE rollback.
The AMPTP wants to roll back force majeur, which is already in the now-expired SAG contract, and for which they still owe actors quite a bit of money. Any give on force majeur is a rollback for the actors.
The AMPTP wants to directly fund non-union New Media projects. As of the last SAG contract, no signatory could fund any project that did not use union actors. Again, the AMPTP is demanding a huge rollback, and to break a precedent set back in Jimmy Cagney’s day, seven decades ago.
As others have noted, the AMPTP is forcing the WGA to take action against them to enforce the meager New Media provisions the writers did manage to win.
Using current economic conditions is also a sham tactic. The signatories are, whining and token cost-cutting notwithstanding, still quite profitable. The cost-cutting they’re doing right now is partially for show, and partially to maintain profitability. They are in almost the diametrical opposite position as the big three auto companies. Crying wolf at a higher decibel level does not change this truth.
BTW SAG was born, and initiated its first labor actions during the Great Depression. We are accustomed to making tough labor decisions during dire economic times.
There is, in short, a clear pattern of intent and demonstrated behavior on the part of the AMPTP aimed clearly at breaking all of the creative guilds. There is no way on God’s green earth SAG can stand for this and be anything more than the faintest shadow of its former self.
Let there be no mistake. Even though the actual strike vote has to happen on SAG’s side, the series of decisions that led to this moment, and the position SAG now finds itself in, are the full responsibility of the AMPTP.
The AMPTP forcing SAG to strike. Period.
Is anyone with anything to lose from a strike FOR a strike?
Is anyone with nothing to lose from a strike AGAINST a strike?
I am bored by the irrelevant and unprincipled opinions of anyone who falls outside either category. The simpering venality of BTLers who vilify actors for daring to stand up to the AMPTP’s untrammeled malevolence and bad-faith. And, conversely, the chirpy Braveheart-sounding motherfuckers who don’t sound like they have a single cent to lose from a strike and so have a very easy time hectoring the town to charge the guns at Galippoli.
If anyone here has a principled belief that cuts against their self-interest, let it be known. I find nothing noble or compelling about this partisan expression of consequence-free invective.