UPDATES SURPRISE! NBC Will Give Leno 10 PM Slot
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So this morning, NBC finally got around to officially announcing the Jay Leno move to primetime at 10 PM starting Fall 2009. ”Do we expect to beat CSI? No,” Leno admitted. “Originally I wasn’t going to stay at NBC. But I remembered something my parents always told me, ‘Whatever I do in life, make sure I come in fourth.’ ” To which his boss Ben Silverman responded, “You’re in the right place.” Leno went on to to talk about his reputation for loyalty. “My mother is from Scotland, so we tend to die in the mine. It’s nice to be wanted at my age…” Everybody congratulated each other, Jay told more jokes at NBC’s expense (but, shockingly, had praise for Jeff Zucker), all while Ben Silverman and Marc Graboff downplayed their or Zucker’s accountability for NBC’s primetime failure or programming layoffs. ”We are thrilled to keep Jay in the family. We’ve been very focused and very vocal about how we are looking to change how broadcast television looks,” Graboff began the press conference. But Leno later quipped, “What they haven’t said is that I’ll be on right after The Today Show from 8 to 10 PM… I just heard that CBS is putting David Letterman on at 9:59 PM.”
Leno explained that this new primetime deal only came together last week. ” ‘See what the affiliates think. Try it out,’ ” Leno says he told NBC about stripping his show. ”When we came up with it, it happened very quickly,” Graboff told reporters. Silverman said keeping Leno helped secure “NBC’s comedy brand” — to which Leno responded, “What Ben means is that NBC barely has 6 hours of programming”. Leno said he called Conan O’Brien about it last night. (I hear Leno also picked up the phone yesterday to Disney chief Bob Iger to say sorry but the No. 1 late night host won’t be going to ABC.)
More info came out today about the show Leno plans, including that he’ll tape in front of a live audience but probably earlier in the day, stay put at NBC’s Burbank studio (whereas Conan O’Brien is moving The Tonight Show to the new studio on the Universal lot), and be off the air for just three months instead of the six dictated by the non-compete clause in his existing NBC contract. Estimates are that Leno 2.0 may only cost $2M a week and result in 46 weeks of original shows, compared to the average $3 million per episode pricetag of scripted primetime dramas that air on average 22 original weekly episodes. But the real question is whether the 58-year-old can attract more eyeballs than just the 4.8 million he averages now on The Tonight Show – measly by primetime standards, especially in the advertiser-coveted 18-to-49 demographic. But Jeff Zucker will try to explain this away by repeating his mantra that he’s managing for margins instead of ratings in this lousy economy. Still another issue is how much Leno’s new show plans to rely in his tired Tonight Show segments like “Jay Walking” and “Headlines” which have barely been freshened since 1996 when then NBC West Coast head Don Ohlmeyer helped revamp Leno’s struggling Tonight Show to take on and beat David Letterman at CBS. (Oh, if only NBC had a programming general like Ohlmeyer now. Instead it has bumbling Ben Silverman in charge…)
Meanwhile, NBC affiliates board chairman Michael Fiorile told Broadcasting & Cable that the beleaguered affiliates asked NBC last summer to give back time and maybe even days and give local content a shot. So he expressed surprise that Jeff Zucker had not brought up the possibility of scaling back network programming sooner. (Fiorile thinks Saturday night seems like a logical place to start…) Among those hurting NBC affiliates, few get a substantial boost from the network’s primetime offerings. Zucker does say the affiliate model is overdue for an upgrade. But despite what Jeff may claim, don’t for a minute think the affiliates’ first-choice scenario isn’t for the network to finally deliver some primetime hits. Failing that, expanded local news or local ballgames might hit a higher number than what currently rolls on the weaker nights, they told B&C. “I’d much rather have NBC give me a program with strong ratings,” says KSHB/KMCI VP/General Manager Craig Allison. “But if that doesn’t happen, I think this does present an opportunity. We’ll take it and make lemonade out of it—we know how to do that.” Now, isn’t that a ringing endorsement of Zucker’s track record? Sheesh.
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Suppose you are NBC affiliates. Now suppose that a group like PTEN or other syndicators offers you prime-time 10 pm scripted shows at a cheap price, made in Australia, or New Zealand, or Canada, or Ireland.
With sci-fi content, or action, or what have you drawing a male audience, who Hollywood has abandoned on TV.
Would you not move Leno to 11:30, pre-empt Conan, and run the scripted shows across 10 pm? Heck something will have to fill that slot and I doubt Leno will get the ratings needed to make running his show a money maker at that hour.
This is an invitation to run more syndicated stuff across network affiliates. Particularly in a recession where there is scrabbling for viewers.
Hey, don’t you all get it? When Conan who has been losing share and gaining an older demo bombs Jay will move back into that slot.
It’s amazing that they planned to boot Jay due to demos, now have Conan in the same boat….then move Jay to 10 where Geritol will once again be back in Primetime with ads and all with the MBA speak of “managing margins!.
Imelt doesn’t have to clean house; it’s cleaned.
5 less SAG eligible hours a week at the Peacock as Leno moves into primetime. Add a few new shows and pilots that go AFTRA and you can see just how much SAG is losing in TV. The pieces of the pie are rapidly shrinking for SAG as the stalemate continues, but the number of SAG members has not. Expect to see a whole lot more dual card holders as the survivors jump from the sinking SAG ship.
I have a question and maybe someone can answer this for me. What happens if Leno’s primetime show bombs? If I were Conan O’Brien I’d be royally pissed off right now.
“BleedsInColor” has raised an interesting theory. Is it, in fact, possible that Zucker has pictures of Immelt “in flagrante” or some other equivalent and Silverman, in turn, has the same that he’s holding over Zucker’s head? That’s the only explanation I can think of as to why these three clowns (with apologies to Ringling Brothers’ Barnum & Bailey Circus) keep their jobs and have failed so spectacularly upwards.
The real winner in this equation is Letterman… if Leno gets all the choice guests (which he will), Conan will just have his scraps AND will be off-putting to the 11:35p audience… Letterman stays The King of Late Night, but know he has the numbers to back it up.
So big deal. TV is ratings. If Leno’s 5 night a week doesn’t pull in the audience, it’ll be gone like any other show. Anybody remember how ABC put Jerry Lewis on Saturday night with 2 hours to fill? It went down, and in it’s place we got “The Hollywood Palace” a fine little show that lasted quite a while. So don’t panic, folks. This too shall pass. Come 2010, all will be back to normal.
“I fear this move only looks smart in the short term… and will prove stupid and destructive over the long term.”
This only looks smart until you start really looking at it, and get beyond the immediate money savings, which would be impressive at first sight. Lower ratings (not expected to beat CSI) equal lower advertising income, and lower ratings for the affiliates’ newscasts. (There will be certain episodes that pull in good numbers but there won’t be any way to actually capitalize on the random rating grabbing Leno. that will only be a bonanza for the advertisers.) Then there is the dilution of the brand and the impact of new ‘Tonight Show’ and the subsequent lower ratings for it, and for the new Fallon show in late night. Something that shoots the cash cow of late night of those programs. Now would the current plan lend itself to any reruns, syndication or dvd sales, thus eliminating the seconday market income. And with the possible giveback of prime time hours to affiliates more income disappears from NBC and NBC/Universal. Anyone see a trend emerging here…
Admittedly when you develop programs with the taste, ability and track record of a Jeff Zucker and his various minions the less time you have to program the better. But that doesn’t lend itself to a healthy network. Nor does that serve the interests of the affliates and the stockholders.
I’m not in the industry, so I’m speaking as a viewer only….I’ve never really like Conan, in fact he irritates me. However having found my way to the Late, Late Show I will stay up to watch Craig Ferguson (and even watch reruns when necessary) and I think I’m not alone since I read that Ferguson’s numbers are better than Conan’s….and because I like the into, I tune into to Letterman’s show…so his ratings benefit from the Ferguson link…which may apply to others as well.
I like Leno but don’t watch him that much…I would certainly choose a drama program over a show of his at 10 pm…and yes, I’m a L&O fan from way back.
Since I think Letterman still has a sense of humor, I wonder if he’s planning on bowing out and leaving Ferguson to destory Conan….payback for the way NBC treated him way back when?
Here we go again. This is the future: no scripted shows. is SAG listening? Strike? What a stupid idea. They’re trying to get rid of us actors anyway, so why not help them by striking? Is Alan Rosenberg completely brain-dead??
Much like Chevy Chase, who bombed guest hosting the Tonight Show for Carson prior to doing his own show, there is a track record for prime time here. Leno has done prime time specials back in the early nineties, and they failed…NBC no longer gives him an anniversary show in prime time because…you guessed it. He’s prime time poison. Even Johnny Carson avoided prime time because he knew that late night fans and prime time fans are two very different groups.
The Sarah Palin of TV moves.
Leno has never failed in primetime. But five nights a week is a different story. Conan, however, in an earlier slot for anniversary specials has been a dismal failure. YEs, please, Dick Wolf needs to be interviewed!!!
Raymond Dupar hit the nail right on the head. Jay will bomb out doing this show at 10 pm and will do so horrible that I’ll bet that NBC would have been much better off letting Conan walk for $50 million. Face it, lets say that you are Jim Carrey and there is a chance to do Jay’s show at 10 PM Monday night or guest star on CSI Miami as the murderer If I were Jim, I would guest star on CSI Miami as the murderer. In Jim’s case, it would be him murdering his competitors in a comedy contest, yet the victims die in horrible ways that cause the team to suspect a serial killer at first. Of course, CBS would have to air a TV spot concerning the movie and/or have Jim appear on the Late show as well. This is a move that is stillborn. The logical move would be to give Conan $50 million to walk as I said, and give Dick Wolf the 10 PM hour prying Law & Order CI away from USA in the process. Of course, Jeff Zucker and Ben Silverman don’t do logic.
Hey, here is NBC’s new slogan (my entry if you want to do a slogan contest Nikki): No Logic Here!
“No more crappy scripted shows…no more residuals, no more WGA, no more SAG…perfect move by NBC. Hey, FOX does it, why can’t NBC?”
Frank Grimes gets it right. I keep saying since september that the problem for the networks is the relevance of continuing to show fiction series in an environment where the offer has radically changed the tastes of the viewer. Less series hours, more co-production with Europe (XIII is damn good, you know…)Maybe NBC is a laboratory.
I am not happy about this move. I really don’t care for Leno. 5 nights a week during primetime. So boring. TV is going downhill. I hope this fails miserably. I know I won’t be tuning in to NBC at the 10pm time slot. I will go to cable or the other networks. All these people who keep saying that this is great because they are sticking it to SAG or the WGA. Well those are the minority. They are also hurting the crews. The people you don’t see but help make the shows. This means there are going be 5 less shows for people to work on. It’s not just about SAG and the WGA. This is a bad day for the industry.