The Screen Actors Guild continues to demonstrate little solidarity among its higher profile factions regarding the upcoming Strike Authorization Vote. Let's examine all the ongoing developments:
-- Tonight's SAG Town Hall informational meeting in NYC was indeed contentious, if not downright ugly, as SAG National president Alan Rosenberg and executive director and chief negotiator Doug Allen faced confrontation from the NY Division, the majority of whom have opposed the pair's leadership since the beginning.
UPDATE: SAG's NYC Town Hall: "Vocal & Brutal"
The NY Division led by Sam Freed called for both Rosenberg and Allen to resign. Alec Baldwin demanded that the current SAG negotiating committee voluntarily step down and allow new people to serve on the panel. And NY Division members sounded off against holding the Strike Authorization Vote and in favor of accepting the AMPTP's June 30th "last" contract offer as is without further bargaining. "The sense of the meeting was that 'the deal doesn't look so bad'. And 'the economy is terrible right now'. And 'this is all SAG's fault because the leaders didn't merge with AFTRA'," one attendee told me. "Because 'New Media isn't that important right now" and "in three years when all the unions are united we'll be able to make up what we've lost' on an assumption that IATSE, AFTRA, the DGA, WGA, and SAG 'can all get together as one'. "
Said the source about what the majority of the speakers said, "This is such a horrible deal, but everyone else has taken it so we need to take it. And we know the economy will be better in three years."
-- Today, a competing and longer list of star actors urging a "No" vote was released to counter the weekend's list of star actors urging a "Yes" vote. It should be noted that among those urging SAG members to turn down the Strike Authorization Vote were well-known actors with divided loyalties because they are also producers and directors.
See Stars Urge "No" Vote To Authorize Strike and
Stars Sign Onto SAG 'Solidarity Campaign'.
-- Doug Allen sends notice to SAG national board responding to the 131 actors, among them many stars, urging a "no" vote on the Strike Authorization ballot -- "The AMPTP rhetoric has has the desired effect" -- and urges them to attend the next SAG Town Hall in Los Angeles on December 17th.
See SAG's Allen Responds To 'Vote No' Stars
-- Further adding to the divisiveness, SAG's NY Division issued a public statement Friday demanding that SAG leaders call off the Strike Authorization Vote, hold an emergency National Board meeting, appoint a new national negotiating task force, and demand that the AMPTP return to the bargaining table once all of the above are done. Just one problem: not all members of the SAG NY Division were included in the decision, as independent Eric Bogosian made clear on Friday.
See Angry NY Division Calls For Emergency National Board Meeting.
In addition, the NY Division appears to have violated guild rules by issuing its public statement without first clearing it with the national board as this SAG regulation shows:

-- In response to the NY Division's demand, Rosenberg immediately and surprisingly declared SAG would hold an emergency board meeting.
See SAG's Rosenberg Agrees To Hold Emergency National Board Meeting.
But he insisted on a face-to-face meeting, something that NY Divisioners said would be a hardship for them as well as unnecessary because of video-conferencing. The next national board meeting isn't until the end of January. But to constitutionally call a face-to-face board meeting requires a vote by 2/3's of SAG's national board. And only the SAG president of executive director can call a video-conferencing national board meeting. The constitution provides for two face-to-face Plenary meetings and two video-conferenced meetings a year.
-- However, today Rosenberg abruptly cancelled the emergency board meeting. Here is what he told SAG's national board in a statement that was supposed to stay confidential. Again, the fact that Rosenberg cannot speak to the board in private anymore shows the deep divisiveness that exists at the top rungs of SAG.
To quote a former secretary of defense (whether you like him or not):
“There are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don’t know.”
This statement applies to the future of the economy, the entertainment industry, how monetizable the digital world will be, how rampant copyright theft will be, international competition (e.g., “the world is flat”), etc. There’s a lot of uncertainty. On the one hand, now is not a great time to shut down an industry, particularly in the state NY and CA are in. On the other, that’s not necessarily a reason to cave and create a baseline the impacts things far into the future beyond three years out.
Is there a way to compromise but also agree to reset the formulae depending how things look in three years? If emerging platforms take off and hit certain metrics, one formula applies retroactively and going forward as the baseline. If they don’t, another formula applies.
Just a thought.
Ps – Hulu’s numbers are down post election and CBS is launching a competing tv.com.
When you see actors working like in that sing songy Christmas-y Nike ad that streams in the window at the top of this DealineHollywoodDaily page be sure that the woman running in the ad will NEVER get one penny in residuals for it ever. And that will continue unless we vote YES on the Strike Ballot.
LA Weekly’s making money, NIKE’s making money, and the only workers are that are going to be able to afford the product is the celebrities who backed the AMPTP in that letter earlier today.
It’s not about actors losing their income, it’s about middle class worker’s losing their income. If we keep sitting back and letting it happen, what makes you think it won’t happen?
Time to wake up.
Even Alan knows he can’t get the 75% now. Send the amptp offer out for a vote and not the strike authorization before there is a coup d’état.
Honestly, Alan and Doug can still get the needed 75%. Members of Unite for Strength don’t like this one bit. Sure they have opposed Alan Rosenberg and Doug Allen in the past, but for the sake of SAG, they will must likely be supporting the authorization to strike. A strike authorization is a tool. As a result, the AMPTP will either be forced into negotiations after dropping the “final offer,” or we can forget about the Oscars and Pilot season.
Wow….
It was membership first who opposed the merger with AFTRA, causing the problem we have now.
It was membership first who pushed the commercial strike, killing 50% of the work and now more non union commercials are being produced than ever before.
It was membership first who hasnt been able to get us a agency contract for what….4 years?
It is membership first who has destroyed this negotiation process, sending all the work to AFTRA
And yet, people still blindly follow them into the abyss. I just dont get it. At some point, you have to take responsibility for yourself and realize, things have got to change.
And who is to say it isnt already over. Why would the AMPTP sign a SAG deal anymore anyway. They already have an AFTRA deal to work with. MF has pushed all of us out of the equation already.
And I am sure that if we went on strike, which despite they’re protesting is the goal they have, all of them will not audition for those AFTRA pilots right? In fact, I am sure all of the pro strikers have already refused to audition for those shows anyway because of the “horrible” deal…..right?……anyone?
MAJOR HYPOCRITES. They will walk right off the strike line to audition that day. Dont kid yourself. They only care about themselves, not the countless people they will put out of work.
Maybe instead of worrying about wether or not you are going to get residuals for your two lines on Scrubs 8 years ago, you should save your money like every other normal person on the planet. That is what I have done when I get work, SAVE MY MONEY!!!
Novel concept right?
And I must say again, I dont know anyone who is going to vote yes, so you are never going to get the 75% needed.
And finally, to all the people affected by this that have no input, I am so sorry. Not all of us actors believe that this all revolves around us….I am so very sorry.
Alec Baldwin seems to be as ignorant as others of his ilk.
“Alec Baldwin demanded that the current SAG negotiating committee voluntarily step down and allow new people to serve on the panel.”
Were is demands met, the make up of the Negotiating Committee would not change, nine members from Hollywood, three members from New York and one member from the Region Branches.
The election of five members from Unite For Strength to the National Board, may have or have not, depending on how they vote affect the balance of power in National Board meetings they have not upset the majorities in the Division Board Rooms.
Hollywood still elects its nine members, New York its three members and the RBD its one member. Back to 13 Alec. Read the SAG Constitution before opening your large and rather foul mouth.
THE A-LIST HAS SPOKEN.
(The Elite vs. the Meat [rank-and-file])
NOW HEAR THIS:
All S.A.G. peasants and proles:
The Royalty and the Aristocracy have spoken. Read the word of your betters. READ AND HEED.
(1) These celebrities are smarter than you. They’ve been so much luckier than you, they MUST be smarter, too.
(2) These Royals and Aristocrats live on a higher moral plane than you do. Again, they’ve been so much luckier than you, they MUST be better human beings, too, with a finer sense of right and wrong.
(1) plus (2) means YOU MUST VOTE “NO STRIKE AUTHORIZATION.”
We owe our allegiance to the Royalty — Prince George Clooney et al — and to the Aristocracy — the Duchess Sally Field and her peers. Allegiance means “DO AS THEY TELL YOU.” And be grateful that they take the trouble to advise you!
These are important people, people!!! They want to work. Stars must work. And these people don’t work for minimum. If there’s a strike, they will lose more money in a week than you make in three years — three GOOD years. Do you want these A-listers to suffer that way? Please, some empathy here. Actors should be able to empathize with their betters. You might have to PLAY one of the nobility some day.
And don’t go asking them to empathize with YOU. That’s not royalty’s role. They shouldn’t be bothered about your residuals. They make their money UPFRONT, got it?
And, please, the Royals and Aristocrats can’t concern themselves if the Internet goes non-union. If they should ever deign to perform in an online project, their lawyers will get them their usual salaries. They don’t NEED your actors’ guild, got it?
A-listers force majeure compensation? Covered. That’s what lawyers are for. If you ever don’t get paid for a gig that was shut down, don’t go whining to your union, hire a good solicitor to get your dough.
And if the A-listers make a show of caring about crews and the other “little people” in their business, DON’T CALL THEM ON IT. Let the stars pretend that their other underlings are actually more important than you. Above all, Royalty and Aristocracy must LOOK good. If they don’t keep up appearances, they could be overthrown.
BIG BROTHER WANTS YOU TO VOTE NO TO STRIKE AUTHORIZATION. (Some of us are more comfortable thinking of our betters as our BIG SIBLINGS.)
We are also union members here in Louisiana. We firmly believe that our strength is in working together as a group to get the contracts we deserve. With that said, the people who will suffer the most if there is a strike are the ones who can least afford it. The grips, PAs, transpo, hair and makeup, wardrobe – these people are just getting over the industry crippling Writer’s Guild strike. During that strike, I had friends in New Orleans who lost their cars, homes and savings because they were not able to work. And to make it worse, we had no control over what happened to us.
We don’t get 15 million a picture like some of you. We are paid by the hour. If we don’t work, we don’t eat. We have families and responsibilities just like you do. The only difference is that we depend on you for our livelihood. How many of you think you could make a film without us?
Our economy is in the worst shape it has been in since the Depression. Is this really the time for you to put countless numbers of people out of work? So you can make more money? You all go on and on when interviewed about your work, that you do it because you love it. If there is a strike, it will only prove that you do it just for the money and don’t care who gets hurt, as long as you get what you want.
Let me get this straight because you’ve got a job, you’ve got yours the hell with everybody else? And for those of us who fall under a contract, (certainly not the big stars who oppose the strike, … god forbid they would be out of work,) who have been sitting home for months without work and without a contract, we say strike and we will sit at home anyway. What is troubling is the big name actors who do not share any responsibility for a new contract. If the big stars walk when everybody else does the strike is over in a week. So let’s pull our heads out of the sand and get it done … together. Chits with separate names … whose for it and whose against it, is pretty juvenile. The Union, AFL-CIO (SAG) has been pretty good to me over the years in health benefits and pay.