UPDATE: SAG’s Rosenberg Agrees To Hold Emergency National Board Meeting
No doubt SAG’s Town Hall meeting on Monday in NYC is going to be fraught with tension. (December 15, 2008: 6:00 PM-8:00 PM, Westin Times Square – Majestic Ballroom, 270 West 43rd Street at 8th Avenue, 5th Floor.) Not only are the Hollywood-based SAG president Alan Rosenberg and executive director/chief negotiator Doug Allen going to be there in person, but so will the New York Division board members who’ve just called for 1) a stop to the Strike Authorization Vote, 2) an emergency National Board meeting, 3) the appointment of a new national negotiating task force, and 4) a demand that the AMPTP return to the bargaining table once all of the above are done. I, for one, would be very curious to see what would happen if the anti-Membership First group of NYers got their way. Would the newly elected National Board go along with this?
Would the AMPTP?
I’ve been wondering for some time now if this strategy would succeed or fail before SAG traveled down the pot-holed road of a strike authorization vote. Funny, I thought the catalyst for this alternative method to gain some leverage with the employers would be the LA-based Unite For Strength. But instead it’s the NYC guild leaders. Hmm. Meanwhile, I’m surprised these NY Division’ers are still stressing all the money SAG is supposedly losing in New Media residuals by not having accepted the AMPTP’s June 30th deal. Hasn’t the Big Apple contingent heard how the WGA is still waiting for its New Media money after A YEAR! Here’s another aspect of the plan no one is talking about: it would have the effect of delaying any SAG labor action before the Academy Awards. That’s either good or bad depending on your POV. But the WGA found that threatening Big Media’s Oscars succeeded in giving them the necessary leverage to secure the writers a new contract.
Now there’s controvery over how the NY Division demands were conceived and with whose input. Because tonight, Eric Bogosian, an alternate board member from the NY division, issued this complaint:
“A statement was made today by some New York Division members making certain demands of our national president, national board and national negotiating committee. I am an elected member of the New York board and was not present at the meeting where this motion was discussed. I was not informed of the content of the motion and I am very disappointed that I was not included in the process.”
Here’s today’s statement from the NY Division of SAG:
We are your elected representatives on the Screen Actors Guild Board. We are united in our dedication to our constituents and in our allegiance to Screen Actors Guild and all that it provides: fair wages; safe working conditions; contracts that compensate for today’s work, while anticipating tomorrow’s reality.
Screen Actors Guild is on the verge of a strike.
In October, SAG had a national board meeting. Negotiations for our TV/Theatrical contract, which had expired in June, had been stalled for months. Working under an outdated contract our members were losing $1.7 million a week. In response to this desperate situation, SAG’s national board voted to request a federal mediator, renew negotiations, and achieve a deal. We also agreed that failure to make a deal would trigger a strike referendum. If 75% of voting members voted “yes” on the referendum, the national board could then decide to call a strike.
Negotiations failed. Then something else failed, too. The American economy.
With that collapse, everything has changed. Our members, and our industry, are struggling through the worst economic crisis in memory. While issuing a strike authorization may have been a sensible strategy in October, we believe it is irresponsible to do so now, in the face of widespread layoffs, cutbacks and reduced programming. The hardest and most important decision any union member must make is whether or not to go on strike. Before we ask you to make that choice, we feel we must, as your elected representatives, make every move we can to get you a deal.
With that imperative in mind, we make the following demands of Screen Actors Guild:
– That all plans for a strike referendum cease;
– That the president of Screen Actors Guild, Alan Rosenberg, immediately call an emergency National Board meeting;
– That the national board appoint a new negotiating task force to replace the current negotiating committee at this emergency meeting;
– That the AMPTP be encouraged in the strongest of terms to return to the table.With a fresh team, the AMPTP will return to the table, and we can get a fair deal. A deal that will not cost careers, homes, lives. We want our members to understand that while strikes are sometimes unavoidable, we will do everything in our power to avoid this one.
In Solidarity,
The New York Division Board of Directors of the Screen Actors Guild






Well, DA and AR are the same people who ridiculously called for AFTRA representatives to debate with them whether AFTRA members should ratify the Exhibit A deal.
So now DA and AR can debate with the New York representatives at the Town Hall meeting as to whether to ratify the strike authorization.
I smell some whoring goin’ on. This is right out of the Wasserman-Reagan playbook. Why are these so called leaders bending over? Don’t they know the Companies are starting to sweat this? Don’t they know their ultimate goal is to divide Unions to better leverage deals against them? Whatever happened to collective bargaining strategy? United we stand?
Chernin must be laughing his ass off.
SAG East = AFTRA.
The New Yorkers who wrote this statement are right on the money.
The AMPTP WANTS this strike authorization because they know that SAG has no leverage to get a better deal than any of the other unions at this time and would love to have SAG either a. fail to get the strike authorization so that SAG can be weakened or b. get the authorization, go on strike and have no leverage, and end up having even more pilots and movies become AFTRA (as in fact they all can because nearly everything is shot on HD, thus ending the whole “if it’s film, it’s SAG thing.)
That way, by the end of the strike, there will be so few shows that aren’t AFTRA (the easier union to negotiate with in the opinion of the companies) that SAG will essentially become a shell of a union.
Peter Chernin isn’t the one laughing. Nick Counter is the one laughing. Peter Chernin deballed Nick Counter in the Writer’s Strike, shoving him aside to negotiate the deal that has set the pattern for everything else, and it’s not a bad deal. Not a great deal, and sure, it needs to be reinforced, but striking has nothing to do with that. Nick Counter wants one last shot of evil before he heads out the door, and turning SAG into a union with no power whatsoever would save on his Viagra bills like nothing else.
New York is right. Alan is wrong. He did a good job during the WGA strike, he should count that as his victory, do as the NY board suggests and let everyone get back to work at full speed. Our business is counter-cyclical, the Depression was boom times for filmed entertainment. We should all be working like crazy…SAG is why we’re not.
Pardon me, who as writer has no standing in this, but did SAG’s New York division really demand that “all plans for a strike referendum cease?”
Really?
After all the long months of negotiation and impasse and discussion and dread and debate, they wouldn’t even put the authorization question to a vote of their members?
If I were a New York-based actor, it’s not the negotiating task force I’d be working to recall, it’d be my divisional “leadership.”
it sure seems like some of the NY crowd is in the AMPTP’s pocket.
If ever there was an issue that needed to be put to a vote of the members, it is this one. How DARE the New York faction try to deprive me of my voice?
New York actors, PLEASE stand up and let the Business know that these NY Board members don’t represent you correctly.
I have never met a “NY Actor” without a fire in their belly and a reliable set of balls.
I cannot believe that rolling over and practically dismantling our contract (our future-New Media) is in any way reflective of the “New York Actors” in this Business.
PLEASE do not allow these few NY Board members to paint the New York Actors as a bunch of fearful members bent on making SAG “compliant”.
Is the NY Division crazy regarding their press release? Has the American economy really collapsed since October? Be honest! Yes, people started feeling the squeeze as early as late-2007, but don’t even try to sell me (or other SAG members) on the idea that the American economy suddenly collapsed and in less than 60 days from the October National Board Meeting. No one wants a strike, but to use scare tactics to convince members that a strike authorization is suddenly not a good way to go is madness. It’s divisive to the union, and sends the wrong signal to the AMPTP, regardless of how one feels about negotiating committee. The point is to get the AMPTP back to the negotiating table. A strike authorization is just one tactic. Also, “Emergency Board Meeting”? Since when in the history of business management has a board meeting been an “emergency” (as in a hastily, unplanned event)? This was a pre-planned strategy, and something is rotten in Manhattan.
And to think that New York once had BRAINS and GUTS!! Someone put something in the water supply?
“You dirty rats.”
Thank god. I’ve got bills to pay.
These fucking NY Board Members – why don’t you just fucking cecede and form your own union of spineless whiney wannabe assholes. Have you ever heard the fucking word “Solidarity” you fucking morons! You put your request to the fucking PRESS, and not to the union itself? What…..you haven’t had any camera time or any work lately so this is your way to get your narcissistic selves a little spotlight, at the expense of the 100k plus members of this union? That’s called Mutiny you assholes. FUCK YOU. If you want a fucking meeting – you call YOUR FUCKING UNION. You really ought to be impeached from your positions. You have been nothing but a voice of dissention and a thorn in the side of our union for the past year….a real eyesore. Fuck Off!
I was thinking the same thing before you posted, Bentover. I would not be surprised at all if NY is angling for a east-west split in order to bend over for producers so as to move production to “New York, the residual free state.” NY board members are apparently writing AMPTP press releases now. “The economy is bad so we shouldn’t share in profits otherwise known as residuals. “Look at all the money we’re losing relative to profit-sharing producers promised WGA and never paid a cent of.” Whatever world these members live in, where “bad economy” somehow effects the equation of distributing profits from successful projects, and producers honor their agreements with other guilds modest hard-fought gains sure as hell is not the world I live in.
I don’t recall producers saying “this is our last and final offer unless there is a new negotiating task force, then we’ll gladly start negotiating for the very first time.” The stupidity of thinking that producers have all this time merely been waiting for a negotiation task force is mind-numbing.
“In Solidarity.” With whom? The AMPTP? They sure as hell are not in solidarity with the Screen Actors Guild. We jumped through hoop after hoop to appease these pussies, they vote, then they go pull this shit right in time to derail any writer-proven Oscar leverage. At the time, I approved of doing such non-starters such as arbitration and other delay inducers in order to get these bitches on board. But apparently, despite that recession was officially called back to November 2007, they aren’t even good to their word. The only new circumstance since the recommendation for strike authorization is that a faction of the guild wants to cause discord at the worst time as possible in order to show producers how wide they want to spread their butt cheeks.
When Eric Eric Bogosian runs for president of SAG, he’ll have my vote in a heart beat.
In the mean time, when New York uses this as a spring board for SAG-East making a split, so they can whore out like AFTRA and completely sell out all SAG members to steal SAG production from Los Angeles, do not be surprised.
“New York. The Bend Me Over State.”
unfortunately, no, it wasn’t unanimous. eric bogosian has issued a statement that he wasn’t asked, consulted or notified of this announcement. he didn’t agree to squat. it’s sort of like this crazy little mutiny. monday in ny will be fun. I’ll be there with flak vest on.
it’s gotten so ridiculous. 97%! 15 to 2 to send out strike authorization, including cross-section of moderates, including richard masur, wait ! – no, uh… the economy is… bad, that’s right, that’s … why we’re… changing our minds…
but, you say the economy was bad months ago?
March 18th, 2008: Bear Stearns is bought by JP Morgan for $2 a share.
September 14, 2008: Lehman Brothers goes bankrupt
September 15, 2008: Merril Lynch is purchased by Bank of America
September 15, 2008: AIG is bailed out by the Fed.
September 23, 2008: Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are reorganized
October 1, 2008: Federal Government bails out Wall Street with 700 Billion dollars due to market disaster.
October 19, 2008 National Board of SAG votes 97% to 3% to send out strike authorization vote to membership if mediation fails.
November 22, 2008: Federal mediation between the AMPTP and SAG fails, SAG negotiating committee votes 15 to 2 to send out strike authorization ballot to membership.
DECEMBER 12, 2008: New York Board of Screen Actors Guild announces it has a v*gina.
I just don’t think this is going to end well for the ny board. they seem to grow balls somewhere over nebraska when attending national board meetings, then, when they fly home, they leave them on the plane.
even though the final decision is left to the national board IF the 75% is obtained, a national board no longer controlled by mf, the ny board gets together, says, “anybody tell bogosian? no? good.” and now they want an emergency meeting to try to muscle through an abandonment of the vote to approve the sending of a strike authorization ballot, 15 to 2, after the federal mediator ended the “mediation,” which consisted of two days of sag trying to shape-shift into some kind of deal that would receive a response from the nick counter doll whose string, when pulled, says one word: “no.”
and yet, according to these girl scouts from ny, there was “one group that wanted a deal and another that didn’t” which is true, except, the group that didn’t was the producers, and somehow, ned vaughn felt “all possibilities should be exhausted before ending mediation” even though the mediator ended mediation, not sag, and all possibilities weren’t just exhausted, they were dead.
when this is all done some people are going to look terminally stupid, and it won’t be the group that followed the rules, got the votes and tried to get the members a fair deal – it’s going to be the knuckleheads who decided THEY were in charge, despite not , you know, actually being in charge, and that they knew best, and that they, after looking into their crystal ball, decided the world would be safe for the screen actors guild in three years, when we would have “leverage” and “unity” with the other guilds, and we would all join hands and the producers would say “oh, gee, now that you’re all together on this, holy christ !- we’re gonna give you back the whole thing! where do we sign?”
meanwhile, every day brings a new revelation about internet content, plans, deals and expansion, but “it’s pennies right now” so we shouldn’t fight for a fair cut, we should wait until the producers figure out exactly how to extract the maximum profit from the new delivery system, and THEN we will have merged with aftra, – kim hedgepath and roberta reardon, alan rosenberg, and dog allen, will all have graciously stepped aside to remove even the appearance of partisanship in this new union run by danny devito and rhea perlman, those two will march into the amptp headquarters, be lifted onto their chairs, deliver the bad news to nick counter, that, since we have now merged and waited for the economy to improve, (it hasn’t but, you know, we WAITED) now it’s the producers turn to make massive concessions, and the producers will, having just begun to suck all the marrow from the internet bone, and gotten used to not paying residuals, and using clips any way they want, and having will smith’s contract include a permanent rider that he fit the sentence “home depot is where I go for all my home repair needs” into every fifth sentence of any script he does – the producers are NOT going to fall off their chairs laughing as the “united-sandwich-boards-no-residuals- whatever-you-guys-need-guild-of-america” tells counter it’s time to renegotiate.
why don’t we just hire a band in ny for monday night, serve rum punch, and then form a circular firing squad and blast away?
I’m all for the secession idea, FU NY. Let’s let all the NY pussies be represented by AFTRA so they can work once a year on Law and Order to support the broadcaster’s pension fund, and let all the LA people be represented by a real union. Let the chips fall where they may and a year from now when LA is making a living on their residuals the NY bunch can crawl out here and request a freakin bailout. Fuck U AFTRA and RR. Fuck U NY SAG board and SF and EH. Pissants.
Apparently THIS is where metrosexuality leads. I worry about my birthplace but am comforted to know that the likes of Eric B. still walk the streets of N.Y.C.. There is hope friends….there is hope.
Here’s the thing:
Each SAG division has the right to populate committees, including negotiating committees. No division can mandate to any other division who can or cannot be on a committee. With regard to the so-called New York Division Board, mandating that the current negotiating committee be dissolved and a new one constituted, at least in Hollywood, the same Hollywood Division members of the negotiating team would remain of the negotiating committee. It takes the Hollywood Division to approve the make-up of the Hollywood negotiating committee members and since MembershipFirst holds a strong majority of votes on the Hollywood board, the same people would more than likely be on the negotiating committee. And unless UFS stands up and refuses to get on the New York “we’ll take any crappy deal, just don’t strike” train, the two new alternates (UFS board members) added to the negotiating committee back in October will be removed and replaced with more MF members if New York keeps pushing it.
Those on the New York Board who are forcing the “No Vote” on the strike authorization are not necessarily speaking on behalf of their members. They have not held membership meetings and unlike the Hollywood Board, New York board meetings are closed to the membership. The New York board governs within a bubble.
The New York board is made up of individuals who appear to be afraid of their own shadows. The motion that was passed in Oct. by the newly elected national board, which called for a federal mediator and a strike authorization if mediation failed, was drafted by New York Board member Richard Masur, who has stated many times during board meetings, “I will never strike,no matter who bad the contract. Never.”
But he drafted the motion calling for a strike authorization. Only two national board members voted against that motion and Mr. Masur was not one of them. ONLY ONE New York board member voted against that motion. What has happened with the New York board since that vote? Well, I believe they are fearful that SAG may actually achieve a strike authorization. The last thing these “Vote No” people want is a strong SAG. They will do whatever it takes to weaken SAG. They are AFTRA operatives. They are AFTRA centric. The majority of their work comes from AFTRA. Very few on the New York board have significant earnings from SAG contracts. They are session performers. Must of their work comes from AFTRA radio spots. Not that there is anything wrong with session work. Lord knows I’ve done my share. But if I’m a SAG board member, my dedication is to what is best for SAG, not AFTRA. And for many on the New York board, this is a personal battle. They are not fighting for the strength of SAG. They are doing what ever they can to “shove it up the ass” of all Membershipfirst board members and supporters. They don’t care about the bigger picture. This is a personal vendetta. They want to destroy Alan Rosenberg and MembershipFirst and don’t really care about the collateral damage. This is all personal for them. The members of the SAG New York board who have signed onto this “Mandate” are a disgrace to the membership and a disgrace to SAG. They should just resign their seats and go on with their very merry lives in New York state. Doing their daily sessions and bowing to “mastas” feet.
I would pay close attention to the fact that Eric Bogosian, a newly elected New York board member and SAG National Board alternate was not asked to participate in this so called meeting of the New York Board. He was left out of the process. Why? Is it because he campaigned as an independent with leanings towards MF? Are the others on the New York board intimated by Mr. Bogosian because he is probably the most recognizable NYC board member based on his television, stage and feature work?
Please, New York Board; if you can’t stand up for your union, then get the hell off of the board. Go run for the AFTRA board. I’m sure they’ll take you with open, wimpy, weak arms.
So “Union Advocate” – using the Bushist mantra of “either you’re with us, or you’re against us” and painting anyone who questions the president’s line as anti-union is just WRONG! All members have a right to express their opinions freely without fear of being kicked off the board or any other act of retribution. In fact, if Alan/Allen were to try and punish the NY members the would be in violation of the Guild constition and subject to disciplinary measures. Sell your fear elswhere, I’m excercising my RIGHT and voting no along with most every SAG member I know!
Yea Bill! You go Tiger – go get em….you’ll show em, wont you! You and the other 3 people in SAG voting “no” on this authorization. All three of you can get together and toast each other around your bingo game that weekend. Cheers to you, and your two other SAG friends. GO BILL! GO BILL! GO GO GO BILL!
Why is it that NO ONE in the film industry knows how to negotiate? This ridiculous, narcissistic stunt is just the latest in a seemingly unending stream of gaffes and blunders made since the writers chose to go on strike on their own. Power in numbers means you need to have a lot of people behind you, you dumb arrogant idiots! All the unions should have joined together – all for one and one for all – that’s how you get some power. If the writers had waited for the actor’s contracts to expire, we would have had power. Instead, the directors sold out – and why shouldn’t they since half of them are producers anyway – and the writers settled for a crappy contract – and then SAG is surprised when they can’t get a better deal. They should all be embarrassed. AFTRA should be shut down and the New Yorkers who just shot us all in the foot should be removed from office – and good God, I am not saying Alan Rosenberg or Doug Allen have a clue. They gave away any power we had with the whole AFTRA debacle, but they are at least smart enough to play the game SOME OF THE TIME.
We have lost this battle with all of our infighting. There is no way we will get ANYTHING better than what they gave the other unions this go round. We have the sunset clause and we can pull punches and strike in 3 years. But the cause is lost. Now is the time to lick our wounds, get some serious counseling for our narcissism, get rid of the bloodsuckers, and study and plan for the next round.
I am apalled and embarrassed to be a member of any of these unions.
to disgusted,
then you need to run for the board, baby.
i’m disgusted with NY, the RBD and AFTRA for their self-serving,
politically motivated bullshit.
i still think if we get the 75%, the AMPTP will start to get twitchy about all of their upcoming film starts.
but you need to run for office. make a difference.