EXCLUSIVE: The chairman of the Motion Picture & Television Fund Foundation Jeffrey Katzenberg and I have had a conversation in response to the huge outcry from the Hollywood community over last week’s unexpected announcement about the closure of the acute care hospital and long-term care nursing home because they are losing $10 million a year. Katzenberg wanted to make sure I had a better understanding of the situation, so I’m passing along the gist of his anwers to my questions. But the ground rules were that I agree not to quote him directly:
Katzenberg was distressed and upset at how badly the announcement of the closures was handled and communicated (the PR flack who handled it, 42West partner Allan Mayer, was fired over it). Because what wasn’t emphasized enough to the showbiz community was that MPTF was eliminating one very small part of what this enterprise delivers to Hollywood. The board understands that MPTF has a responsibility to deliver on its promise of unwavering commitment to the entertainment industry. And yet, as much as the directors would love to be able to live a world where no one is left behind, the board had to decide to save the vast majority at the expense of the few. The MPTF services 75,000 patients a year. It has enlarged the home in Woodland Hills, created the Saban and Stark centers, and made a huge investment in expanding many aspects of service to the showbiz community. But the sickest patients in those acute care and long-term care beds were putting all those enterprises into jeopardy and maybe bankruptcy.
Katzenberg expressed dismay that the message delivered last week had been so badly communicated that it has made most people right now assume that the MPTF and the home are either closing or in great jeopardy. True, it’s an enormous enterprise with a $110 million budget, $20 million of which is social services. But the fact is that almost all the MPTF facilities and services are not going away. Just the opposite. he board’s goal for the MPTF is to get its endowment back to a place where it is a self-sustaining enterprise, for which individual big donors, or the “Night Before” anual Oscar fundraiser are added bonuses.
Katzenberg said the board knew the closures were coming for a number of years but that everyone chose not to deal with it for all the right compassionate reasons. Instead, people wanted just to carry on and ignore the situation. But then the MPFT reached the point where it was simply not possible to continue to do nothing.
The main problem is that the facility is almost 60 years old and in no way, shape or form up to the demands for first-class medical care needed by acute care patients today. The MPTF was doing what it could to keep it together by patching together old equipment or occasionally buying new equipment. But the facility was still considered ancient by today’s medical standards. And it would be phenomenally expensive to bring the facilities up to pay because the last part of a patient’s life involves the most care and attention and complicated medical needs. And MPTF doesn’t have the resources to give that.
Katzenberg emphasized that he thought the hospital and its administrators and staff had done an amazing job compensating for the deficiencies with their personal touch. But MPTF simply doesn’t provide what UCLA, Cedars, and St Joseph’s do because those hospitals have all spent anywhere from $300 million to $1 billion to rebuild in the last decade. And the MPFT knows that when it accepts the responsibility for caring for showbiz people, then it had better be able to deliver a state-of-the-art service for them. But the facility just can’t keep up. And the attempt to keep up has placed the MPTF in a terrible situation where the $10 million loss a year is draining the endowment so such an extent that the entire MPTF services and facilities are now precipitously on the edge.
Katzenberg said the other reason why this situation accelerated into such a crisis that the board had to act immediately was because the endowment, just like everybody else’s endowment, is down 30% in value because of the Wall Street crash. So this combination of the endowment losing significant value in 2008, combined with the mounting losses and the fact that the facility was not up to standards for state-of-the-art care for the patients, forced the board to act. And it had to act quickly if it was going to ensure the future of every service and facility provided by the motion picture home.
So the board was left with one of those horrible Solomon-like situatuons where there is no right and no wrong. But Frank Mancuso (chairman of the MPTF’s Corporate Board Of Directors), Casey Wasserman (board member and MPTF scion) and Katzenberg had made a commitment to one another, and to the rest of their colleagues when they started to wrestle with this, that their first responsibility was to make sure that they could put the Motion Picture Home and the MPTF on a course that would ensure their future and provide services for the showbiz community in perpetuity.
Katzenberg acknowledged that, because of the acute care hospital and long term nursing care closures, the MPTF will be putting more emphasis on its community and social ervices. Several thousand clients want to stay in their own homes and use MPTF assistance and facilities. The board expects there is going to become a bigger and bigger demand for this and the directors need to make sure the MPTF is able to deliver.
Katzenberg also acknowledged that his own personal focus is on social services, like situations where people in the showbiz community need financial assistance because of a momentary emergency. Two years ago, the MPTF was receiving on average about 20 calls a week for various kinds of urgent assistance, and usually 50% of the requests qualified. But during the recent writers strike, the MPTF was receiving 200 calls on average, and some 80% qualified. So the demands on the MPTF are for a safety net that is greater and wider than just a retirement home and just a hospital. Katzenberg pledged to make sure this place of last resort doesn’t disappear on his watch.
Katzenberg said that the MPTF in 2008 made 95% to 98% of its fundraising numbers in 2008 because most of it takes place in the first 2/3s of the year. But the board can forsee that fundraising in 2009 is going to be a serious problem. The directors are counting on Hollywood to continue being a phenomenally generous community.
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The main problem is that the facility is almost 60 years old and in no way, shape or form up to the demands for first-class medical care needed by acute care patients today. The MPTF was doing what it could to keep it together by patching together old equipment or occasionally buying new equipment. But the facility was still considered ancient by today’s medical standards. And it would be phenomenally expensive to bring the facilities up to pay because the last part of a patient’s life involves the most care and attention and complicated medical needs. And MPTF doesn’t have the resources to give that.




Katzenberg, Spielberg, et al are friends with Gates, Allen, and they themeslves have TONS OF MONEY. Why not use it to HELP OTHERS IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY?
How much money did they spend for Obama’s campaign? You realize that Obama raised 679 million – mostly coming from the Hollywood fat cats? And the $170 million for the inauguration party was paid for by the Hollywood fat cats as well.
COUGH UP! You’re disgusting!
What a horrible position to be in for Jeffrey Katzenberg. I like a lot of other people immediately frothed at the mouth and started cursing him and Hollywood in general when I read the news here, but now that I’ve calmed down after reading this post, I wouldn’t want to be in his or Frank Mancuso’s position. I can tell you from experience that quite literally, the MPTF saved my life. No bullshit. For the most part, I have never experienced such a wonderful group of doctors and medical assistants with absolute devotion to the patient. I also know from meeting with Jeff ever so briefly in a storyboard meeting that he is one of those guys that is with you for ten minutes tops, but man, is he ever focused for those 600 seconds! Yeah, lots of the assholes that run Hollywood pretend to be that, but they wouldn’t know how to read a script or a storyboard if it slapped them on the head and plugged the ink right into their pea-sized brains. He is the real McCoy. Nevertheless, I have a feeling the whole roil about the PR release was a classic “I thought the other board member(s) had read it and approved in my stead” scenario. Maybe Katzenberg is just as human as the rest of us and should have done due diligence by reading the release carefully, but hell, he’s got thousands of employees, shareholders and partners to distract him. And with all of the SAG strike potential hoopla flying about, it’s easy to get side-tracked in these scary times. Oh, and to Shameful, you are a pinhead. Published reports have clearly indicated that Obama’s financial success was due to common folks sending twenty, fifty maybe one hundred bucks (like me), not the “fat cats”. Gee, they’ve got “tons of money”? What do you have? You work in the business? What’s stopping you from sending a check for twenty bucks to the MPTF? Yeah, I know, go spend it on the usual, a glass of bile with a pissoff chaser.
Dear Mr. Celebrities are Shameful Hypocrites
You’re an uninformed idiot. The overwhelming amount of the money Obama raised for his campaign came from individual donations by 2 million donors in amounts less than $2500, not from Hollywood fat cats. Individual donations, from fat cats or others, are limited to $2500 per person. And Katzenberg and Spielberg have made significant contributions to charities in the Hollywood community.
And $170 million wasn’t spent by Obama on the inauguration, only about $50 million (appproximately the same price as for Bush’s second inauguration). The extra $120 million which the inauguration cost was for police, security, etc which, as always, comes out of government coffers.
And what have YOU done for your community, SHAMEFUL HYPOCRITE? How much time a week do you volunteer to help the elderly, the sick or the homeless? Maybe you think posting on boards while saying rude things is public service? Perhaps these people were donating money to Obama because they believe he will better The United States for it’s citizens.
Shameful Hypocrites,
You are disgusting!!!! ……………………….. These guys give so much it would make your head spin. Know your facts before you open your mouth.
SHAMEFUL HYPOCRITES – Don’t you know better than to speak ill of Obama?
All that campaign money, whoever donated it, could have been put to better use than commercials.
What a bunch of smoke and mirrors and bullshit! Jeffery says right there that they are closing the acute care hospital and long term nursing care! What other reason is there to check into the MPTF! We industrialytes who have spent our whole lives in the business, check into the MPTF when we’re in our eighties and can still think well enough to figure out where we want to go to die. We don’t check in and sign our pension over to the Fund so that when we’re too debilitated to speak for ourselves, they can ship us off to some run down facility, deep in the valley that smells like piss! Katzenberg keeps repeating over and over “state of the art facilities”. He mentions UCLA, Cedars, and St Joseph’s. They’re not sending us off to UCLA or Cedars! They’re shipping us off to the Bed Sore Oasis! I only wish this were really about the money! Dr. Tillman told us last week that 200 million in donations wouldn’t change the Board’s plans! The Board is just freaking out now because of the backlash! If this is about money where was the “Hey Hollywood, the Fund’s not doing so well”? “Hey, we need some help here or we’re going to have to do something drastic”. Where was the save the MPTF fundraiser? What about talking to all of the studios and unions about placing a little box on all of the checks that go out, that caring people could check to contribute their biweekly donation? I’m just coming up with these ideas off the top of my head and I’m not a smart man. Surely smart people like Katzenberg and the rest of the board could have come up with at least these, but we heard nothing. Just boards on the windows, we’re done, and trust us it was the only way. “Katzenberg pledged to make sure this place of last resort doesn’t disappear on his watch.”?!? What absolute double speak! If you’re closing the acute care hospital and long term nursing care, then in fact this place of last resort IS disappearing on your watch, Fat Katz!
Why is everyone giving “Celebrities are SHAMEFUL HYPOCRITES” such a hard time? How can you liberals be so intolerant to a Fats Drudge lackey, who is only on this site to annoy and speak on situation he has little knowledge of.As for “debi”, where were you the last six elections? You only started caring about money spent on commercial now? You do know McCains money spent millions as well? And why weren’t you fighting for the better use of money, when it was the taxpayers money disappearing in Iraq.The money Obama’s and McCain’s campaigns spent on commercials was only a fraction of the billions that has gone unaccounted for in Bushes Iraq.
I went to the Woodland Hills hospital for an out-patient procedure just last Nov. and couldn’t have been happier. Great staff, rooms, O.R., so I’m confused by the statement “the facility is almost 60 years old and in no way, shape or form up to the demands for first-class medical care needed by acute care patients today.” Haven’t been in any other hospitals, but it sure seemed like first class medical care is exactly what I got.
I did check the “Little Box” — 40 YEARS AGO!
my backgorund is medicine, I have been to many facilities for care. One being the Woodland Hills hospital, for a procedure. This was one of the best experiences I have ever had. The level of care, kindness and knowing the people that have cared for me over the years, made it a breeze. Dare I say- take my meal penalties away- keep the facility for those that have worked so hard for a little piece of mind.
I am 4th generation “showbiz”. My grandparents had a show for nearly 20 years and their crew was their family.Many went to the MPand T nursing home. The Home and Hospital provided peace of mind for those who were not wealthy enough for home care, for those who worked their asses off for years knowing they had a place to go later on.I visited friends of my grandmother’s from RKO days as a little girl and have continued visiting since. A friend last year had a procedure in the hospital,and like an earlier poster said, the care was excellent and completely “up to date”. I don’t want to hear anymore about how Mancuso, Katzenberg, etc are “misunderstood”. “Suits” don’t get it, have never gotten it, the sweat and actual LABOR that is involved in making movies and tv- they don’t get the working man or woman, they won’t have to worry about what happens to them when they are old, whether they will have a place to reside in dignity. I have spent much time out there in Woodland hills, I know the facility well. The people there, as mentioned in another post, knew when they were able to decide WHERE THEY WERE GOING, and now , because Katzenberg lost money in the market and “fundraising will be hard” (give me a break!!) the elderly at the Home will be moved and CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. Pickford, Fairbanks, the greats that began this venture would be disgusted; as someone who grew up in the industry and still makes a living in it, and saw the Home as an eventual destination, this is more of the same- pulling the rug out from under the artist and the crew member. Between Union squabbling, reality shows and general pervasive disrespect as exemplified by the disregard for the significance of the Home- what do we have left?
This is an eviction of people who have paid for their homes in full. The people being evicted do not have the strength or faculties to protest this travesty.
We do. Please join with us to be proactive in working with the MPTF to keep their doors open, and our parents and loved ones safe and well cared for.
We take care of our own? Yeah right.
Shame on you MPTF.
We’re on Facebook – the group is Save the Motion Picture Hospital
Two years ago I learned that as a member there was the possibility that my mother(homemaker)could possibly gain entrance into the Woodland Hills facility. She was 89 at the time. We went through the physical test and application processs. As the process progressed we were then told she couldnt be admitted because she owned a house and therefore was to wealthy. If I had sold her house 5 years before and had her on Medicade
she would have easily been admitted. This is only two years ago. There financial problems were known only to a few.
My hospital contact/social service worker told me “Robbie, It is only about placing bodies in beds.” So I have compassion for those patients and relatives who bit on the chance only to learn it was a myth. Your bed was yours day to day. They didnt tell you, and I feel they had the absolute responsibilty to inform you that the facility was a house of cards.
What was the purpose of that deception? Like I said,
it was to “place bodies in the beds.” To those caretakers/and patients who thought their situation was resolved by being at the Motion Picture Home, I hope and pray you find a painless solution
Looks like the new “…not to quote him directly…” explanation from the MPTF Chairman of the Board is nothing more than another garbled excuse to try and fend off an investigation into where and how the money is spent. Oh-right, he gives good storyboard. Sorry’bout that…Silly me.
I have had two procedures done there and found the facility in Woodland Hills superior to any other hospital as had numerous other co-workers who have nothing but praise for the care received there. So the claim if “not being state of the art” is, I believe, wrong.
What set this business apart from any other industry was we did take care of our own. Because the biggest stars of the day (Fairbanks, Pickford, et al) cared. And as a corollary, the biggest star of his day, Jimmy Cagney, started SAG.
Sure, if you apply bottom line economics, Mr. Katezenberg is probably correct but sometimes doing the right thing comes from a place other than than a calculator.
The MPTF home and hospital is one of the unique reasons people kept working in our business. The long hours and knowing they were employed only as the movie or tv show lasted is not exactly a source of comfort or stability. This is not the right term, but there was always a “pot of gold” at the end of their careers that kept a lot of people going so they knew that when they became infirm, the Home was the one place where they could find stability, which certainly did not exist during the job-to-job lifetime of the their working career.
So it’s ok to contribute thousands of dollars to anoint the One, but you don’t have anything left over to help your own when they need help the most? Had Obama stuck to his promise to use public funding, about $500M could have stayed in the economy rather than be flushed away on his advertising.
We need people with the class of the original United Artists to make what is for them a very small contribution and do what’s right. There are enough hundred-millionaires in LA that they could fix this whole mess over brunch. The apologists here are embarassing themselves defending the indefensible. So much for the caring, tolerant left.
If you would like to hear what Dr. Tillman and Seth Ellis COO…have planned for MPTF in the future, call public affairs at MPTF and ask when meetings with the public are beling held over the next few days! I was at one today and WOW what a responce from the true “Taking Care Of Our Own” The room was filled with Hollywood actors, writers, studio profesionals, tradesmen and others. It was a site when Dr. Tillman was talking and David Carradine stood up and took the microphone from Dr. Tillman! Carradine told the crowd that DR T should not be in charge of make decisions of the Fund it should be us that have paid and supported the Fund threw the years. Other stars like John Schneider and stars from Judging Amy spoke up and where visabley upset and supporting David Carradine.
If we where given a notice that MPTF was in trouble, the hollywood communittee that supports the Fund could have come together to help raise funds or suggest to change directions like closing the Health Centers and going with our other medical choices like Kaiser for our healthcare. With this we could take care of our elderly families…THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT The Fund is looking at making money and not taking care of our own…which is the elderly.
MPTF was not started to make money and show a proffit, that is why we have fund raising to help with the shorfalls. I have no clue where this “10 Million Dollars” short fall is, last time I heard from someone that works at the fund it runs around 2-3 million a year…shame on you MPTF Board…you all dont like loosing money is your problem…..Support your fellow trades people be keeping the purpose of the fund that Charlie Chaplin and Mary Pickford started for us.
Future programs???
The MPTF managment has no plan in action for relocation our families. They are just this week going to other facilities and lookin at the facilities and deciding if it will be a place to place our families!! They say that social workers will follow our families…Right..what good can they do if the facilities our families go into are privately own! These facilities will laugh at the social workers request…
Go to the MPTF web site and look at the future programs…Most of these programs are Managments dreams…no programs in affect or little effect for the entertainment communittee…Following residents after relocation….no plan….Other programs, phone buddies, rebuild together…has only had 3 events over 2 years, home safe home…give be a break…maybe helped 16 home owners. NORC ???? a dream to have volenteers drive our families to Doctor appointments and get groceries….At the volenteers cost???
The Health Centers will…MAKE MONEY…..
The retirement independent communitee Stark Villa, Lodge, Country House will be like renting a appartment. MAKING MONEY
Pure Profit…including personal laundry, housekeeping….you pay for these services.
How dare the MPTF management and board spend money given by the Saban family and others that give by building a “as the MPTF Website says’ “Look at our new JEWEL”
This building should have been designed to update the facilities that take care of our elderly residents not as a excersise and pool facilities.
WOW…all the money I have been giving to the Fund and paying to take care of my family in the future has turned into a 24 hour fitness !
The way this mangment and board has gone is unbeleivable….programs that are not developed, profits before compasion for our families.
MPTF may have helped some of us during the last strike…that is what Charlie and Mary designed it for….but not to give the entertainment communitee the heads up that the Fund is having problems and let us know about it and maybe start a campain to at least help or plan ahead.
SHAME ON YOU THE BOARD, DR. TILLMAN AND COO-SETH ELLIS
COO – SETH ELLIS HAS NOT HAD ENOUGH PRESS…THIS TAKING CARE OF ELDERLY AT HOME IS HIS DREAM…NOT MINE OR YOURS.
The plan to have social workers follow our families as they go into new faciliies is not even planned!!
Ask the Social Workers that are helping your loved one relocate if they have been told of a “For Sure Job” offered to follow our loved ones” mptf… “We may have some opertunitees in your future” NO…
No employee has been told that they have a job to follow our families in the future!
The Employee at MPTF…What a shame that the dedicaded employees that have taken care of our families have been told…1 week ago that they will notify within the next “60 days” they will be given another 60 day notice if their job is terminated. This could be that day or up to October of 2009. The MPTF employees that are taking care of our families are a nervise wreck!!!
This is evil what the managment of MPTF has done to 1000 people…yes 1000 people. NO ONE KNOWS “who IS THE 300 LAYOFF PEOPLE” They have stated in their breifings that 300 plus employees will lose their jobs on this closing. BUT…all employee do not know at this time….for 60 day if they will be recieving another 60 day notice that their job goes away from 60 days up to October 2009.
If the emplyee leaves early, they loose the small insentive that they have told employees.
The managment staff HAS BEENTOLD if their jobs are going away, AND WHAT BONUS THEY WILL RECEIVE IF THEY STAY THROUGH THE CLOSING….but no one below a supervisor HAS BEEN TOLD IF THEY HAE A JOB.
The other offer to employees is …”We will have a job fair this spring for employees…we have been in contact with other facilites about employeement…
Has MPTF Human Resource not read the Papers or seen the news????
The Healthcare feild is laying off.
So the employees have no other choice than to ride this out …maybe have a job ….if I leave ..No Unemployeement. given a 60 days notice..Thank Gosh They Get Unemployeement…only when MPTF is done with them.
UNBELEIVABLE …THAT THIS IS HAPPENING TO OUR INDUSTRY …THE ONLY SAFETY NET ..I THOUGHT WE HAD..
MPI…WHATS YOUR OPIONION…YOU ARE THE ONES THAT PAY MPTF FOR OUR HEALTHCARE PLANS…..LETS ALL GO TO KAISER.
AT LEAST WE KNOW THIS IS MANAGEMENT HEALTH CARE.
ALL I CAN SAY IS……WOW …What Greedy people at my expense…..
The closing of the hospital and skilled care facility is thoroughly outrageous! But what floors me even more than the closing is the fact Katzenberg admits that the time the patients need the best care is when they are at the true end of their lives. Yet he is willing to throw these people out into the streets (or some 5th class hospital) at their most crucial time. My God, what has happened to humanity or any sense of it? These are the same people that made him his millions (although Karma may be paid by someone named Madoff!), that worked in the trenches of a sound stage. Yet he is the writer of the infamous memo when he was at Disney “… half of your salary is to say you work at Disney.” (Yeah, that really impressed the grocery store and my bank when I told them that.) Yet this is the man that took a percentage of all films he produced at Disney and yet so many of us were vastly underpaid that we had to get a second job to make ends meet. Yet, this is the same man that pulled all of the Disney Studio people together when he and Eisner took over and reassured all of the workers that their jobs were safe and yet 5 days later, almost all of them were pink slipped. Yet this is the man that believes anyone over 40 is too old to work for him and so many were shown the door. Yet this is the man… it keeps going.
But answer this Jeffey boy, when is enough, enough? When does having enough money mean that the little people can get their share? Please do not tell us that closing these units is the only way to make things work. Disney sent me to graduate school and the 3 little words that I walked away with are “MAKE IT WORK”. You know that when faced with a challenge, you can take 2 roads – cancel it or show that you a true innovator and become the leader. You did it at Disney. This situation is no different. You never put the word out to the community that MPTF needed help. You also misstated the amount of money shortage – it is about 1/3 of what your press release has stated. And yet, MPTF is going to tear down many of the original buildings within the next year and build new buildings. For whom? For those that can pay $5,000 – $7,000 per month to live there but once they need some nursing care, they too are thrown out? Your strategy is very flawed. So why don’t you and your cronies (Tillman, Mancuso, et all) tell us what the real vision is for the property. Develop it to the point where it will be sold, after all, 44 acres in Calabasis is probably worth almost a billion dollars. Are you part of the development deal? Do you get a share of the net or the gross? MPTF was never meant to be a “For Profit” business. Did you forget this? Where are the governing documents that outline the business of MPTF? Are your Board of Director meeting minutes available to, at least, the employees? How are you and the Board held accountable for your decisions?
You could certainly make the current situation work but you chose to go in another direction. Tell us why. If these people were your parents, how would you feel? And if they were your parents and didn’t have any money, how would you feel? You can’t keep pushing people around forever – do the right thing and rethink this absurd decision. Maybe you will be considered a winner instead of a loser. And that goes for the Board and others that had their hand in this mess. One last thing, why do the remaining employees need to take a 20% cut in pay? Your press release never stated that either. So you have managed to screw everyone in the process of making yourself look good. Asshole!
The only “uniformed idiot” is you. Check newsmeat.com for the fact that Obama raised over 2x the money that McCain did, and while you’re there check how much money went from celebs to his campaign and to PACS. BTW, PACS are not under any “laws” – it was one of those lovely loopholes! How many fundraisers did Geffen/Spielberg/etc have for Obama? All that money went to PACS to give him that kind of cash. Geffen told Obama he’d fund him personally, that’s on record.
The beef here isn’t with Obama but the HYPOCRISY of celebs- Katzenberg, Spielberg, et al who don’t really care about anyone but Obama. F**k the people that do the work and the labor, they got theirs.
That’s how they think.
Think of this as a preview of “universal healthcare”in microcosm. It can’t even be done in the wealthy Hollywood community for a relative few members. As hip environmentalists like to say, “unsustainable”.
Investigate! Audit! Prosecute! Dump the Chairman! Dump the Board! Re-organize! Elect new Chairman! Elect new Board!
My mother also lives in the MP hospital and I receive services from the fund here in NYC. When my own son and I visit her in LA, I tell him that he might visit me here one day. Guess not.
The staff does an AMAZING job and they too are now looking for work. We must not forget these amazing nurses and staff members who pick up the slack when the residents are all but forgotten and ignored by their own flesh and blood – some of whom live 5 minutes away and can rarely (if ever) find the time to visit their own parent.
Let 5 top Hollywood stars give up 20 % of their salaries from ONE major motion picture and we are funded! Voila!
Here is the question to ask:
Where were the Fund’s funds invested?
How much of the money from the fund was invested with Madoff and Sterling Bank??