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UPFRONTS 2013: The Overachievers
This joint SAG/AMPTP statement was released just now:
Screen Actors Guild and Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers to Meet Tuesday
Los Angeles (January 28, 2009) – Screen Actors Guild and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers will meet February 3 and 4, at the AMPTP offices in Sherman Oaks, Calif.
We will have no further comment about the meeting.
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INT. OUTSIDE DOUG ALLEN’S OFFICE – DAY
DOUG ALLEN is our hero. He’s the Chief Negotiator for the most powerful actor’s union, Screen Actor’s Guild. He’s a tough negotiator.
THE AMPTP, the villains, are afraid Doug will expose them. They will do anything to stop him.
JAMIE CROMWELL, RICHARD MASUR, NED VAUGHN, AMY BRENNEMAN, ADAM ARKIN, KEN HOWARD, AMY AQUINO, TOM HANKS, SALLY FIELD AND DANNY DEVITO, members of the “DIVIDE FOR AFTRA” coalition, huddle at the edge of Doug’s open door.
Jamie leans in to whisper in Richard’s ear.
JAMIE
Action.
RICHARD
This is it.
NED
Oakily doakily!
They enter abruptly.
INT. DOUG’S OFFICE – CONTINUOUS
Surprised, Doug stands to greet them, extending his hand.
DOUG
Welcome, brothers and sisters!
KEN
Hit the showers!
JAMIE
Cut!
AMY AQUINO
Checking the gate.
Danny
That’s a wrap, suckers!
THE MEMBERSHIP is stunned.
FADE OUT.
From the LA Times (Business Section):
“One of White’s top priorities will be to find a way to merge with AFTRA, which has been on the agenda of new directors in the past.”
It’s three year contract and many of you seem to believe it’s the First Council of Nicaea. It’s just not that important. Really. Time to move on.
Bill
“Traitors to the union?”
The only traitors to the union are the UFS/NY/RBD people, who, out one side of their mouths were voting in almost total majorities with the leadership these last months, while, out the other side of their mouths, sowing dissent and disunity to make sure SAG would never get 75% for an SAV.
Arkin and Vaughn walked in to ask for a recalling of the national board to discuss “the lack of unity on the SAV” after the SAV had been voted up by the national board by 97%.
“lack of unity?” 97%?
Doug Allen knew Arkin and Vaughn were essentially assassins coming for him, and he was right. But Allen also knew the only way it was feasible to send out that SAV was to get these people together AGAIN and try to appeal to their reason and any shred of loyalty they had to the Guild itself and the membership – even if they hated Allen and Rosenberg
Allen knew he had to roll the dice and at least try.
Instead of being given a chance to do that, UFS’s Gabriell Carteris lied straight up to the VP of the union when discussing the agenda that would have allowed Doug to speak his piece. They could have called executive session the second day and removed Doug if they felt they still wanted to do so.
Instead, shortly into the first morning they yelled out for executive session – and BOOM – the fight began. Doug’s supporters – about 48-49% of the board were incensed at the bulllshit, cowardly move without giving Doug a chance to explain why it was so important to come together before sending out the SAV and to rally their constituencies to support it.
Instead it turned into Doug’s supporters fighting off the rookie, inept, disrespectful knifing UFS was attempting. They got their ass kicked – which they deserved.
The membership hopefully will see, by the facts, the votes – always in total support – and then the result – that, while they were worried about this contract, and their jobs and their families – UFS/NY/RBD were working furiously to discourage passage of an SAV that would have – for the first time – given SAG the ability to bargain effectively with the only tool the AMPTP respects or understands – the threat of strike.
Instead, they acted like, you guessed it – traitors to the union, working subversively against the leadership, all the while pretending to support it by voting with the leadership.
And why? Merger. All these groups have that one thing in common: a long-standing desire to merge with AFTRA. UFS ran on it – it was their platform. UFS also ran on “we want everything SAG wants – and more” (from the contract) which was on their pre-election website. Of course the next unwritten sentence was “we have no intention of getting any of those things, we really are all about merger, but, hey, we do ‘want’ them.”
So now, John McGuire the ultimate, NY based “go along to get along” old school guy, backed up by this “task force” stacked against the previous neg com, goes in to hear if the AMPTP will give the union a couple of little goodies, so they – the AMPTP – can get a weak union, unopposed to the giveaway disaster this contract is – and UFS can march out, declare victory, then encourage the membership to approve the dog-shit contract UFS really doesn’t care all that much about in the first place, while UFS turns to its real priority – merger with AFTRA.
And ALL these months, with all the bitching and moaning that SAG “couldn’t get a contract?” Well, when 2 of the 3 divisions are actively working against rallying support for the leadership, and this small dissident faction in Hollywood is doing the same – how exactly did anyone think Allen and Rosenberg were going to get 75% for an SAV? THAT’S why so much time has passed. The dissent wanted to bleed them, point the finger of blame of them for not accomplishing anything, then fire them, ride in on a horse and declare victory on a contract, then consolidate their power in next summer’s elections – and turn to merger with AFTRA, which SAG members have voted down 16 times.
Traitor to the union? UFS/NY/RBD – there’s your traitors. You watch what happens.
Oh – it should be noted – over on Sagwatch, they’re printing that David White “received a standing ovation” when he entered 5757 – as if, the staff was expressing their approval of the firing of Doug Allen. That is a complete lie. David White (who I wish well) completed his remarks to the assembled staff, who then gave him a polite round of applause.
That’s what happened.
Union Advocate wrote: Fairchild, Vaughn, Freed, Robards and Hodge publicly supported the AFTRA Prime Time contract.
I don’t know about the rest, but I remember specifically looking for Ned Vaughn’s name on the AFTRA YES list at the time of last election, and it wasn’t there. And I couldn’t find any other place where he recommended that anyone should vote for it.
What’s your source on that? It certainly may have gotten by me, but I’d really like to see it.
All these pro strike whiners continue to do so because they are overtly dramatic. This is a direct result of primarily being failed actors and wanna be background.
The only hijacking that has taken place for SAG is the ability of these “members” to vote on SAG deals. This deal effects actual working actors. All these pro strikers are by an overwhelming majority not working anymore or never have or will worked as a professional actor. Lets be clear. They feint outrage and rattle sabers because they have drank the kool aid of this romantic notion of “saving acting”. Has nothing to do with reality. When the deal is done these people will go back to whatever it is they actually do all day and won’t feel like they’re “fighting the man”.
These people have no idea what they are talking about in relation to new media or residuals. These people are voting on issues that will never effect them.
The facts are quite clear when you look at the deals.
To strike for a perceived imaginary gain because you’re afraid Skynet and the Matrix will take over in two years and steal acting and put it all on the internet is ridiculous.
These people should not be allowed to vote.
The dillusional manner they interpret the position of SAG illustrates the same manner they approach their lives right now in believing they are actual SAG members.
Kindly Disappear and leave this issue to the people actually effected. WORKING ACTORS. Who are ALL OVERWHELMINGLY against the strike, and who are the ONLY people EFFECTED BY RESIDUALS.
Im tired of my livelihood being hijacked by starbucks baristas and caterers.
Screw Unity. I want their votes taken away.
Alan, Anne-Marie, remember the packed house standing ovations you received at the annual membership meeting, at Harmony Gold, at Hollywood and Highland. We all still support you. A union’s job is to get a fair deal for its membership, not to cozy up to management. We feel betrayed by how playin’ U For Suckers ousted Doug and David.
I bet they get nothing done, well except bunch of bickering.
please don’t screw us.
Matt Mulhern wrote: Well, when 2 of the 3 divisions are actively working against rallying support for the leadership, and this small dissident faction in Hollywood is doing the same – how exactly did anyone think Allen and Rosenberg were going to get 75% for an SAV?
Matt, if 2 of the 3 divisions AND the group that convincingly won the last Hollywood election (58% – 42%) are all pursuing the same goals, maybe it’s the remaining group (MF) that is “this small dissident faction in Hollywood”.
And please do us all a favor and JUST STOP with the ridiculous canard that SAG members have voted down merger 16 times. 16 times, huh? Fine — name just a dozen of those times. That’s okay, we’ll wait.
Take this deal between William Morris and YouTube to heart. This is happening now, the content is being created now, and actors are going to be put to work on the Web now. Right now. And the AMPTP doesn’t want to pay for talent. Not three years from now, but RIGHT NOW, this content is being created and is about to be available online. Some little plum the AMPTP might give the newly formed “more reasonable” taskforce won’t mean anything, not one thing, in the face of this new reality — a reality that’s been in the works for a very long time.
Brandon Tartikoff started created web content in the mid-90′s, when he made his prescient deal with AOL. He knew exactly how the future of scripted and unscripted entertainment would evolve.
The difference between Brandon and, say, Nick Counter, is that Brandon loved and respected actors, writers and directors. He loved his job. He cared about quality programming and would promise (and deliver) the moon to talent he wanted to work with. And he took pride in discovering new talent, this wasn’t about A-Listers. It was about who wrote the funniest script and who gave it the funniest reading.
The SAG leadership did not fail the membership in terms of recognizing that online content was the future of all creative players in this business. I’m sorry to say that the SAG leadership was failed — largely unwittingly — by the membership. Because if the membership made the effort to become truly informed, they never, ever would have voted for anybody from UFS.
ACtual woring SAG; ha,ha,ha, that’s funny. I’m an actual working actor and I just have to ask; Are you actually spewing that crap with a straight face? You say “Lets be clear.” So lets do be clear, the majority of the people on your side, of the isle come from RBD’s and NY and make up 35% of the working actors and 25% of the money made “acting”. Therefore in light of recent events, although there is nothing wrong with working a second job to support ones dream, In fact I would go so far as to say it’s admirable, did it myself twenty two years ago when I was just breaking in, I must say I couldn’t agree more with your final statement. “I’m tired of my livelihood being hijacked by starbucks baristas and caterers.” And unlike you, unless your real name is “ACtual woring SAG” let me sign my real name so you can check on that.
@ Bill:
Fuck you. Just because I want actors to get a fair deal doesn’t mean I want anything to fail. But if success means destroying the union, then yes, I do hope they keep fighting long enough to get what they deserve. I make no apology for that.
And unlike that lying gasbag asshole limbaugh, I actually give a damn about the working man. So I hope the AMPTP (the group actually dragging all this out by trying to destroy the union) does the right thing and gives SAG what they’ve earned, and continue to earn, through their talent and hard work.
Thank you AWS for finally clearly stating the truth!!! One working actor to another…F&^K the strike. Let the people who actually work as actors for a living deside their own fate.
I doubt very highly Mr. “ACtual Woring SAG” really understands whats at stake hear from his inept comments. Its about our future sir. The only way to protect it is to learn from the past. Everytime there is new media in play we give up our wages in hopes that the next contract will be better and that the studios will give us a better deal “next time”. This never happens. Cable to video tape to dvd’s. I have been in sag for over 20 years and acting is how I pay all of my bills including a morgage. I cannot afford anymore fuckery in my future just because it is labeled a new media. Enough is enough.
If are a real working actor i would encourage you to not be so short sited, grow a pair of balls, and stand up for a better wage. Or at least the possiblity of one. I cannot wait for the REAL membership to vote.
Thats if the traitorous coup de tat-ers will still let us.
To the oh so literate ‘ACtual woring SAG’ (Nice title, you think of that up all by yourself?) I drove by SAG today and recognized Scott Wilson, who is sort of the proto-typical ‘Character Actors Actor’ picketing the Guild, holding a sign that was critical of Matt Damon, Sally Field and the rest of the Actor/Producers who have sold out their fellow members by publicly attacking their negotiating team.
Scott Wilson, a guy who has given brilliant performances in dozens of films from ‘In Cold Blood’ to ‘Castle Keep’ to ‘June Bug’, to ‘Monster’ to many, many more is in full support of the ORIGINAL correctly/legally seated negotiating team.
It seems ‘ACtual woring’ (sounds kind of like ‘actually whoring’ don’t you think?) is doing the old put down that Amy Aquino and her Restore Respect/UFS pals invented years ago.
Namely that only THEY work the contract, and every one who disagrees with them is a rank amateur who is a wanna be — so by all mean they should have their votes taken away.
The problem with this is that it’s a lie.
Over 4,000 people have signed the solidarity statement (that David White took down off of the SAG Website today). Included in that list of supporters are people with “no Careers” like Ed Asner, Mel Gibson,etc…, etc…
It’s “ACTUAL WHORING’S” hubris that will do him/her in.
These smug elitist pigs always cut their own throats — just watch.
They’ll lord it over SAG members with their Country Club crap, and the members will retaliate. In fact, I urge “Actual Whoring” to keep selling that “We don’t want the rabble to have a vote”, routine.
That just means this current abomination will be voted out of office just that much faster.
Hey “ACtual woring SAG” [sic]:
Can you present a single document or fact to support your pathetic diatribe against anybody who believes the current contract offer is nothing but an unacceptable crock of shit?
And while you’re at it, your highness, why exactly is it that you want to do all your name calling anonymously? Post in your real name so we can regale in your ostensible point, that only actors with credits as studly as yours should be able to vote.
I make pension and health care every year, pumpkin. And because I work doesn’t mean I’ve lost my fucking brain and want to vote for anything that will take away half my income, otherwise known as deferred profit sharing, otherwise known as residuals.
Show us what a booking stud you are, while you propose those less brilliant than yourself should be able to vote. Until then, you’re just another take-it-in-the-ass from producers blowhard without a single fact to back up his outlandish UFS-laden elitist assertions, without a contractural negotiation plan other than buying extra KY before the next AMPTP meeting.
Apparently, I’m not the only one who’s against the UFS sellout producer kiss-asses who manage to be snobby elitist fucks while not producing a single verified fact to back up their buffoonish claims. You’re just one more unverifiable resume doof who believes only his buddies should vote on contracts, and doesn’t believe the membership should get to vote on anything.
September cannot come quickly enough.
You’re an “ACual woring SAG” (fruedian slip, perhaps you meant to say “whoring” any time the AMPTP bends you over during your non-existent meal break?) Really now. Make your point. Who the fuck are you other than a guy without facts, and without demonstrated basis for your own brand of qualified voting?
Don’t let facts get in the way, bud. Don’t let logic get in the way that many of us will defend our residuals tooth and nail because we make plenty of freakin’ residuals.
Come September, don’t let the door hit your “woring” ass on the way out, along with all the other elitist pricks who won’t let the membership vote on what we should do with this contract and our careers.
Hey UnionFan
1:4000…wow, what is that less that 5 % of the membership…nice.
2: Mel Gibson, yes very comendable. Didnt he also donate money to yes on 8
Your right. Great Job. I support you
Don’t act like you don’t get paid the first time you do the job. If you want more money, work more. Duh.
Drysdale
2 of 3 divisions does NOT mean 2 of 3 divisions MEMBERS.
6 Hollywood people voted to fire Doug Allen. 6.
33 voted against.
You have 75% of the work from L.A.
You really gonna make the argument that this, in terms of proportionality, was in any WAY indicative of membership sentiment?
The people in NY and RBD – the BOARDS of those divisions, are ALWAYS pushing against anything that is not “go long to get along” bargaining (ha) and ALWAYS pushing for merger. You have a “minority” of about 48-49% right now, so you might want to rethink that “2 of 3 and the enthusiastically voted in group in Hollywood” theory.
Your coalition is on very, very shaky ground.
Add that to what’s coming, and you’ve got a recipe for disaster.
To “ACtual woring actor”,
Look at the following list of actors elected to the National Board at Screen Actors Guild, who all signed the Written Assent. See how many credits they have in TV/Theatrical, the contract being addressed now.
These are the people who are taking their marching orders from David “One of White’s top priorities will be to find a way to merge with AFTRA” White, and Richard “there will never be a strike on my watch” Masur:
This is from SagWatchdog.com :
Unless stipulated, they are New York or Branch Board Directors. The names are listed in alphabetical order. (IMDb credits are not Infallible and can be confusing, but I have tried to be as fair, and accurate as possible.)
Adam Arkin (Hollywood Board established actor).
Molly Ballard: five credits in 12 years
Mark Blum: (actor/producer 50 credits in 12 years)
Amy Brenneman: (Hollywood Board established actress)
John Carter Brown (five credits)
Suzanne Burkhead (1 credit in 1983)
Tom Chantler (6 credits in 12 years)
Paul Christie (mostly cartoon voice work a few related to the TV/Theatrical contract)
Dave Corey (37 credits 21 years)
Roy Costley (3 credits 4 years)
Rebecca Damon (2 credits)
Maureen Donnelly (no credits)
Cece DuBois (no credits)
Nancy Duerr (23 credits in 24 years)
Abby Dylan (4 credits)
Morgan Fairchild (Hollywood Board established actress)
Sam Freed (37 credits in 31 years)
*Steve Fried (None)
Nancy Giles (44 credits since 1986)
Traci Godfrey (1 credit)
David Hartley-Margolin, (none}
Todd Hissong (none)
Mike Hodge( 69 credits since 1984)
Ken Howard (Hollywood Board established actor).
James Huston (14 credits since 1984)
Jim Hutchison (6 credits since 1974)
Ed Kelly (1 credit)
Art Lynch (none)
Richard Masur (Established actor, former SAG President and the real leader of this group and their current action.)
Mary McDonald-Lewis (no TV/Theatrical credits.. Worked a lot of animation prior to 1995)
Helen McNutt (3 credits)
Bill Mootos (6 credits since 1999)
Sue-Anne Morrow (five credits since 1999)
Debra Nelson (8 credits since 1992)
Pamela Reed (Hollywood Board established actress)
Sam Robards ( Established actor impressive credits)
Stephen F. Schmidt (5 credits since 1986)
Matt Servitto ( working actor lots of credits)
Kate Walsh (Hollywood Board established actress)
Sharon Washington (30 Credits since 1989)
Liz Zazzi (Since 1992, 2 credits as an actress, I credit as herself. )
So, there you go; out of 40 board members who fired our chief negotiator and NED Doug Allen, disbanded SAG’s negotiators, gave control of their new Task Force to New York, and hired David White, MPAA’s Pisano’s former protégé to be SAG’s interim NED, only 6 Hollywood, non-Membership First Board members supported this action. Our union has just been hi-jacked by New York and the branches with only a FIFTEEN PERCENT backing from our Hollywood elected representatives.
That sucking sound you hear is the whirlpool forming above the drain…as in “going down the…”
ACtual woring SAG -
Although I have been a SAG member for “only” 2.5 years, I earned the first level insurance last year (ok, not great, but still…), and I’m eligible for the coming year. I hope that I can pay the quarterlies. For the prior 24 years, I was in the production office for TV, films, and mainly commercials. All that to say that when I finally figured out that I wasn’t being as creative as I wanted to be, I changed paths and started over again as an actor. For the the last eight years, I’ve been living the lifestyle of what most actors in their 20′s go through to get established in their careers. And it hasn’t been easy, to which you hopefully can relate. (For those who are doing the math, I’m 52 now.)
I received my SAG card by being Taft-Hartley’d through the audition process for a commercial from which I was out-graded. I audition a lot for principle roles in commercials and am knocking on all the doors I can find for TV/Theatrical work. I’ve paid my bills, barely, by getting background work for commercials, along with odd jobs. I did have two small principle roles, although I didn’t garner any residual payments. And that’s because both of those spots were for the web, for major clients. Even though, I KNOW I’m an actual SAG member.
Ten years ago I was working as the “Hollywood professional” for a small software company up north. We were creating a suite of products to bring interactive video to the web’s entertainment options. I had been to NAB for five years in a row, read many magazines and talked to a lot of people in a position of knowledge, and learned of the future of convergence. You remember that term? People were going to be able to get all their home entertainment from the fusion of the television and computer. This has been the plan of the movers and shakers for over a decade now. Movements like this don’t happen overnight, of course, and we’re still some years away, but you can’t tell me that we are not still headed in that direction. And you gotta ask, when we get there or as we get closer, what is the payment schedule for actors going to look like?
When I decided to pursue a more personally satisfying creative route, I was looking forward to the opportunities that many before me enjoyed, and the rewards of getting paid to offer myself up as a professional talent. I may not have the credits that would impress you yet, I may only be a lowly background artist for now, but that does not make me any less interested in the future of the union that represents professional talent. Please don’t think that you can take away my earned rights to vote my conscience in the matter of where our union is headed.
You, and many of the others who are looking only at today’s opportunities and paychecks, may be called selfish and exclusionary to the point that you want to become the elitist bunch who cowtow to the producers wishes. I, and others who think like I do, are looking out for tomorrow’s opportunities, for all actors, for many years to come. We just want the right deal. We don’t want to strike. But if that is the card the AMPTP forces us to play to get the right deal, and we have the votes by enough members who understand this argument, then we will play it. But only out of the desire for a fair payment for our work being shown in the delivery space of the future. This will allow all actors a livelihood, established as well as those who wish to be more than baristas and caterers.
As you can tell, payment for work shown on New Media is my biggest concern. But there are a number of other very important issues that we are fighting for in the next contract, some of which the past negotiating team has had to “give up to get along”, you understand? Please, please, help us to get over this hurdle so that we can all get back to work.
Thank you for listening.
Hello folks!
I have supported myself and my family with acting work and only acting work for almost 50 years.
I know and have worked with (or tried to) every union “player” in this current SAG/AMPTP imbroglio.
This moment is critical for all entertainment industry professionals.
This is no longer about political survival, personal egos, or a knee-jerk lockstep head-in-the-sand stance.
If SAG cannot now be allowed to bargain a deal and send it to the membership to ratify, then all – ALL – our livelihoods are in jeopardy.
Could there have been a better deal back when? Maybe.
Can there be a better deal now? No.
Can there be better-informed deals in the near future? Yes.
The current leaders of SAG are the duly-elected representatives of the majority of SAG members.
Support them and pray for them and send them your best wishes if you want to survive this crisis.
Drysdale:
I am a working actor, ( I don’t need a second job to support myself. I consider myself very lucky). I am also a student of a pretty prestigious acting academy in L.A. During the last SAG elections, members from both slates came to talk to our class. Ned Vaughn was there representing UFS. A Membershipfirst candidate asked the class how many of us voted “yes” for the AFTRA prime time contract. Only a few raised their hands. Ned Vaughn volunteered the fact that he voted “yes” for the contract. That’s how I know.
Since meeting candidates from both sides, I became more involved with the workings of my union. I’ve even attended two open Hollywood Board meetings in 2008. I highly recommend people attending those meetings. I now realize that SAG means more than a white envelope containing a residual check. And many of those on the board are truly dedicated to keeping this union and our contracts strong. I was somewhat impressed when I met some of the UFS candidates. I didn’t vote for any, but they put on a good face and said what they thought they needed to say to please us. I’ve now seen them in action and they are not unionist. They don’t have our best interest at heart. I know I’m generalizing and that I can’t read their minds. But I can base my opinion on their actions. They have lied to and betrayed this union and its members. I’m a young actor. My career, more than likely, will be mostly in the new media platform. I’ve read the offer on the AMPTP website and I’ve read what SAG has provided the membership. I’ve been to two membership meetings. I consider myself pretty well educated and informed. We are in deep doodoo if the final offer is ratified. I fear back door dealings have been going on between UFS,NY, AFTRA, and the AMPTP. Why else would the AMPTP consent to go back to the table. This deal has been all hammered out and the meetings booked for Tues and Weds of next week will be just for show.
News Flash: I don’t know how reliable this is, but I was in the SAG elevator making my way up to the 9th floor today and I overheard two people (wearing SAG I.D. badges) talking about making arrangements for the Cagney Board room for Feb 8th. For those who don’t know, the Cagney board room is where all board meetings take place. SAG and AFTRA are scheduled for a joint board meeting on the 7th. It’s about the commercial W&W’s/negotiations. Now, maybe SAG is anticipating the meeting will take two full days. Or they have been told that there will be a SAG only national board meeting to discuss the deal the so-called “Task Force” will have made with the AMPTP by Wednesday, FEb 4th. I’m just sayin’