
After breaking the first news that Lionsgate and brilliant Mad Men creator and showrunner Matthew Weiner were at a negotiations impasse, I’m thrilled to be able to confirm tonight that they’ve reached an agreement to continue with the show for a 3rd and 4th season. As an insider told me, “The deal is done. It closed today, it’s seven figures, and he is going back to work.”
So that means CAA did not get Weiner the $10 million a year that I had earlier learned the agency was asking for. Few TV types thought the economics supported that since AMC is a basic cable network, not a pay channel like HBO, and the series began with low ratings that improved dramatically by the end of Season 2. They thought even $2.5M a year too rich for a Lionsgate deal. But after all those Emmy and Golden Globe wins for Weiner and Jon Hamm, not to mention media kudos, the pressure was on AMC to keep the show’s quality up. Which is why my scoop that Lionsgate was contacting agents to find a showrunner to replace Weiner was so embarrassing to AMC. (The agents’ reactions were exactly like mine: are these suits NUTS? But also remember that Lionsgate had an order for two more seasons with or without Weiner.) So AMC ended the impasse by helping Lionsgate finance the deal to keep Weiner at the helm. I’ve no word yet on whether Weiner got the control over promotion and advertising he wanted. But he gets other TV development and a Lionsgate feature project.

Geez, this hardball negotiation really took a long time — 3 1/2 months by my calculation since Weiner’s contract on the show ran out after the second season, which wrapped in October. Then again, as one insider told me, when the sticking points involve “money, greed and a lack of understanding of the value of the franchise, what else is new?” This logjam affected everyone on the show, don’t forget. When the options on all the series regulars expired on December 31st, Weiner and Lionsgate still hadn’t made a deal. The cast, crew, writers and producers have remained in limbo until the big guys worked this out. “We can’t do the show without Matthew,” Hamm said at the time. “Of course, you ‘can’ do it, but you know you can’t.” While he waited to begin new episodes, Hamm signed to play Tina Fey’s boyfriend on 30 Rock.
Also, I’d heard that the negotiations had reached such a low point between Christmas and New Year’s Eve that Industry Entertainment had started looking for a publicist to spin Weiner’s side of the story because the bargaining looked about to break down for good. I heard the gist of it was to make Lionsgate look foolish for ruining a good thing — especially when its stock price is under tremendous pressure and corporate raider/shareholder activist Carl Icahn is stalking the studio. That’s how close this deal came to not getting done for my favorite TV show.
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Thanks God, that’s very good news! Although with the price of great show runners going up all the time (rightly so) and most network oblivious to the relation between the quality of original programming with their creator, one good show or another is bound for leaderless failure one day or another.
Matt really IS the show and he also made Jon Hamm and January Jones into stars with their roles. Those were two actors languishing in obscurity and are now getting major award nominations and general critical acclaim.
The almighty $$$$ won again!
Both sides finally saw the light & settled their differences.
“Understanding the lack of value of the franchise”? Nikki, this is laughably naive coming from you. The show averages something like 2.5 million viewers. That’s it. The awards, the non-stop media attention, and the ad campaigns have not been able to convince people to actually watch the show. (And whoever pipes up to say “I DO”, well, you are in the minority.)
This is a rare case of the suits being on the short end of the stick. It’s a high quality show, but the audience has not embraced it. So…now they’re supposed to pay a king’s ransom for “quality” content and piss poor performance? Give Weiner a decent raise, I suppose, but I don’t think he deserves a ton of money. He isn’t bringing viewers to the network. Just journalists. And who cares what they think?
HALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like all is right in the world again hearing this news. Of course it’s really not, but at the moment, it feels that significant. I can’t wait to see what Weiner comes up with for Don and Betty and Sterling Cooper this summer.
Cancel it.
Show is all hype.
It’s going to be a loss when the stories are not that good this year and they are on the hook for paying this lucky average dude more than he is worth. But the show is about false hype, so…..I guess that makes it sort of ironic… I guess
tammanycall, while your assessment is fair for the very short term, you fail to account for the viewership a show like this gets in the long term. This is a show that will continue to sell/rent on DVD, electronic download, or on whatever other media comes along for years to come. People forget throwaway TV like reality and cop procedurals and don’t want to purchase it later, even if the shows garner a ton of viewers when they first broadcast. They air, then they’re forgotten. A show like Mad Men will be remembered (and paid for) for years if the quality of the show continues to be so excellent. Lionsgate would be incredibly short-sighted not to account for this.
Hell, just a year ago I was almost the only person in my circle of friends and family who was even watching the show. Now roughly a third of them are regular viewers and most are such fans they often talk about it and recommend it to others. That’s what word of mouth will do for a show like this.
Besides, Mad Men is quite a feather in AMC’s cap. Nobody watched that channel a couple years ago. Now with Mad Men and Breaking Bad (and an upcoming slate of new scripted series) they’re building a reputation as the new cable station for quality adult drama — the new HBO — and subscribers will follow as a result.
All that said, YAY! Congratulations to Matt Weiner and Lionsgate for working out a deal and thanks to AMC — I hope their unexpected help pays off for them.
And who cares what they think?
You obviously do enough to have to written that reply. Nikki’s a journalist, remember?
It’s funny Nikki. You bag on Entourage because they take mushroom and smoke pot, but you love this show because they backstab and murder, Right. That’s Los Angeles for you
“Laughably naive?” This is laughably naive coming from you Tammany. My favorite show too. Fuck the money. Fuck AMC. Fuck Lionsgate. Hooray for Nikki.
I watched the first season and then bailed because I was so bored by it. Well written? Absolutely. Interesting? Intriguing? Entertaining? Not so much. I get it: People back then smoked a lot, men were too big for their britches and women were marginalized in every possible way. YAAAAWWWNNNN. Mad Men is not the Sopranos and Weiner does not deserve to be paid like it is. Let me know when the Mob infiltrates the Ad biz.
@ Tammanycall:
Gee, you’re so right, quality can’t measure up to quantity. So 2.5 million is weak viewer ship, eh? Spot on, you jaded twit. Oh yes, I do “pipe up” and revel in being in the “minority” of viewers who admire brilliantly written, directed and performance dramas like “Mad Men” while flotsam like you have your eyes glued to “So You want To Be A Cuckolded Celebrity!” or whatever mass-consumptive drivel swells your balloon. Gee, sorry for the venom, but it’s creeps like you that promulgate the mindlessness of television when a class act like “Mad Men” comes along.
Anybody who has the fortitude to receive and ignore the asinine notes sent out by the head of Lionsgate’s scripted division and proceed in spite of those to do great work, and who endures the astonishing penny-wise, pound-foolish budgeting schemes of their geniuses in production, deserves every penny he can get. Great show, great job, and obviously capable of withstanding anything…
Lionsgate are the WORST. Ask anyone who’s ever done business with them: When it comes to paying you, fuggetaboutit!
This show is the real deal – it’s well-written, well-acted and looks friggin great. It’s put AMC – and frankly Lionsgate TV, on the map. Weiner is the real deal writer and has brought dramatic TV back. He’s worth many pennies (just not 1 billion of them) and truly Lionsgate would’ve been foolish to let him go.
While Mad Men is undoubtedly one of my favorite shows and I do think it’s a “quality” show that has helped add to AMC’s brand, I think a couple of things need to be considered. First, keep in mind that viewership soared at the beginning of Season 2, only to fall back into the 2-million range, indicating that the show’s audience has likely hit its peak.
Secondly, Matt Weiner – while having created very nuanced and layered characters – has now laid down the fundamentals of those characters. If you work in the industry, then you know that aspiring and unemployed writers write “spec scripts” of whatever the hot show of the moment is all the time. And you’re used to seeing that literally hundreds of other people are capable of generating great scripts of established shows. In other words, now that the ball has been created and it is rolling, it can be kept rolling by others who would cost less.
I realize that kind of sucks to say, but believe me, it’s true.
So, while I’m glad that Weiner got some kind of a raise – certainly he deserves it – I can’t fault Lionsgate TV for arguing the economics and holding firm on the bottom line. After all, keep in mind that any raise Weiner gets will just mean more ads that we, the viewers, will have to sit through to watch the show!
Um, how many people actually watch this show? I’m guessing about five.
Thank God!
I was so worried.
Mad Men is the greatest show in the world. It’s better that sex, food, water, breathing and the iPhone.
I don’t know what I’d do without this show about how white men used to be better than everyone else.
I was so afraid that that Sgt. Bilko look alike would never get his money and come back to finish this snoozefest.
Stop the Mad Men worship people.
It ain’t that good.
I like the show, but in the interests of accuracy, it has an average viewership of maybe 1.5 million. Its highest ratings were for the season 2 premiere, when it drew 1.9 million.
The basic cable show with the largest viewership, The Closer, does something like 7 million per episode.
That said, Mad Men’s upscale viewership, with incomes over $100,000, is much higher than one would expect given the raw numbers.
I don’t know what Lionsgate ended up giving Weiner, but Mad Men undoubtedly holds a tremendous amount of value beyond its Nielsen scores and ad revenues. This show will never have a mammoth audience, but it is the best show on television right now.