I’m told that January saw a lot of pushback from the various guild members and even board members angry over negotiated terms of the IATSE/AMPTP tentative contract in advance of what will be ratification votes this month. The result is that leaders of the individual guilds that comprise IATSE may have to ram through the pact. For instance, I’ve been told that, at the Special Membership Meeting on January 24th for the Motion Picture Editor’s Guild IATSE Local 700, Executive Director Ron Kutak stated that the union ultimately will rely on members’ votes, once cast, ” ‘represented’ as a sort of electoral college, instead of treated as a general election.” So if ratification had to rely on one member, one vote — it would fail.
I first disclosed the terms of the tentative IATSE/AMPTP pact over Thanksgiving weekend even before union leaders had bothered providing details to members. The most controversial rollback is still this: that, effective 07/31/2011, the Health Plan will change the standards for continuing eligibility from a change of 300 to 400 qualifying hours over a 6-month period. Even the union reps are admitting this will cause 7% to 15% of the various IATSE Guild members to lose their insurance. (And if these are the official figures, you can bet the numbers will be higher.)
It’s little wonder then that the individual guilds that make up IATSE are having trouble spinning this to members. Several “No 400 Hours” websites started up like http://www.400hours.com/ and these two on FaceBook here and here. And suddenly circulating among the membership are emails opposing the contract, like this one: “IATSE Members from many of the locals are banning together for the first time, as a collective, to fight the proposed AMPTP contract. Our mission is to reach out to as many of the 35,000 members under the Hollywood basic agreement and let them know what this contract means. The increase of 400 hours will cause over 3,500 members to lose their health insurance. The ‘New Media provision is the other main reason for a “NO!” vote. The terms weaken our Union’s Basic Agreement and open the door to major losses in every Local of hourly rates and working conditions. Remember, what you give away today, you are not likely to get back ever…. We want our members to VOTE NO! We are GROWING and we are MAD!”
Meanwhile, informational meetings held by the IATSE Guild leadership have been angry and nasty. To answer the disappointed and disgruntled members’ outcry, the Guild leaders have begun using their websites to post “Vote Yes” testimonials, like this one from the International Cinematographers Guild IATSE Local 600′s national executive board member John Toll: “400 hours? Lets face it. It sucks, but what are our options? Voting ‘no’? Even if all IATSE locals voted against ratification, then what?” I’ve already reported about fireworks inside the ICG meetings on the tentative deal’s rollbacks. Now, at the Special National Executive Board meeting held January 11th, the NEB voted to recommend that members cast ballots to ratify the new contract. But 39 voted “for”, and 18 voted “against”, with 1 abstention. “The sole purpose of this bullshit ‘special’ meeting was to get the NEB’s approval so that Local 600 can now start selling this piece-of-shit to its members,” one angry member emails me. “I can only hope individual Local 600 members show more courage and backbone than their elected representatives showed that day.”
There were just as many fireworks at the Special Membership Meeting on January 24th for the Motion Picture Editor’s Guild IATSE Local 700 at the DGA. Although held at 7:30 PM (which makes it difficult for the working members to attend due to an editor’s 12-hour day, thus ensuring a smaller and more controllable crowd), there still were plenty of members there. “Well, if we were expecting sympathy or even clarity from the leaders of our local, we got little,” one attendee emails me.
“We members were far less interested in the numbers crunching than what will be the human cost. Ron Kutak, Executive Director, and the Guild president, Lisa Churgin, would not address that [400 hours] issue at all and got very defensive, even rude, to the members when asked questions related to that. Many of the Editor’s Guild members said that they were willing to sacrifice some of the pay increase to maintain their health insurance as is, with no rollbacks. Ron was adamant that was not possible and gave no explanation as to why. We are not asking to re-negotiate our share of the pie with the AMPTP, we just want our union to divide our share so that we don’t lose our medical benefits as they stand now. As we all know once you give in and lose medical benefits, we will never get them back.
“And Ron stated that our votes, once cast, will be ‘represented’ as a sort of electoral college, instead of treated as a general election, which is what the membership has always been led to believe.” Indeed, each local has “votes” based on the number of convention delegates they are allowed, one for every 100 members. Whatever way the majority of members in any local votes, so go all their delegate votes on the contract. And even if all the locals vote “no”, the president of IA can force the contract on members.
The problem is that, because of the way that IATSE is configured, each of the locals affected by this contract know little about where the other locals stand on this. But now the disaffected members are starting to communicate with one another, and even meeting together independent of their leadership. They’re united in their anger that none of their leaders even discussed the 400-hours rollback with them while its terms were being negotiated. Instead, they were prsented with a fait accompli. “It is not that the Editor’s Guild doesn’t expect to make sacrifices in our current economic client. It is that the studios are trying to break us,” one angry Local 700 member emails me. “We get no respect, are expected to work through meals, stay past our 12 hours, not put in for turnaround or overtime. This was the same union that gave up the right to have an assistant editor with every editor on a show. Now editors commonly do the work of two. We can’t even get the equipment or staff we need to do our jobs. Or we will never work for that studio again if we ask! Yes, blacklisting still exists today if you stand up for your rights. I thought that was the job of a union.”
Attempting damage control, Ron Kutak sent his Editor’s Guild members on January 19th two emails — see below — explaining how the Health Plan is funded, and why IATSE made the deal it did regarding the 400 hours rollback. (It’s very similar to this December 4th email I reported that ICG Local 600 members received from national president Steven Poster.) But as an angry member emails me: “Note the fuzzy math. In the past, we were asked to take minimal wage increases to keep the Health and Pension plans funded. (Ron alludes to this.) So we were taking net pay cuts (when inflation is factored in) during the flush times to head off just the problem the funds are facing now. Note also how Ron points to the 3% wage increase as a coup when in fact AFTRA, DGA and WGA all received equal if not greater wage increases.”
I’ve excerpted what Kurak said in his emails to members about the Health Plan below:
From: Ron Kutak
Date: January 19, 2009, 8:01:47 PM PST
Subject: Part 1 – Basic Agreement SummaryHEALTH PLAN
We faced a $587 million shortfall projected over the three years of the new agreement.
$200 million will be contributed by the producers into the Health Plan based on the reserve levels during the life of the contract.
The reserves in the active Health Plan will be spent down from 12.5 months to 6 months. The retiree reserves will be spent down from 16 months to 8 months, contributing $189 million towards the shortfall.
Some benefits needed to be changed, including a participant out of network co-insurance increase from 30% to 50%, introduction of mandatory mail order drugs for maintenance medication, increasing co-pays on doctor visits to $30.00 for those in the MPTF area not using MPTF services, introduction of a $5.00 co-pay on MPTF services, and in the final year of the agreement, beginning August 1, 2011, an increase in the eligibility requirement from 300 to 400 hours.
The bank of hours is preserved at 450.
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Part 2 – Background and ExplanationThis entire negotiation was really about two things: first and foremost, our Health Plan, and secondly, securing the jurisdiction over new media work in the same way the DGA, WGA, and AFTRA did.
Our Health Plan is in severe trouble due to the so far unabated rise in costs. Over the last three years, costs to the Plan have increased an average of 9.67% compounded each year. While this was happening, residuals and hourly contributions, two direct funding mechanisms, were essentially flat.
The residuals income is always used to first fund the Pension Plan, and whatever is left is then given to the Health Plan. Due to the Pension Protection Act, recently passed by Congress, the rules surrounding pension plan funding have changed. One aspect of these changes requires us to count all participants who have had contributions made on their behalf counted as if they will receive a pension when they ultimately retire. This is different than it used to be for us, as we only had to count vested participants (five or more qualified years) prior to the enactment of the new law. This means that our minimum funding requirement has increased, and there is even less from the residuals going into the Health Plan.
So, with hours and residuals essentially remaining flat, and a projected 9% compounded increase in health costs going forward, we have a projected $587 million shortfall to the Plans over the next three years. When the negotiations started, the producers claimed we had a $780 million shortfall. Why the difference?
Due to an extremely poor investment climate, the producers claimed an additional $200 million was necessary to make up for the 20% in losses the Pension Plan incurred for 2008.
We managed to nullify that claim. Because the Pension Plan has different investment returns each year, we have an 8% projected return that we use each year to “smooth out” variations year to year. Looking backward, we have made our 8% to date, and on a go forward basis our investment advisors, employed by the Finance Committee of the Plans, assure us over time we will continue to meet our 8% number. Our Pension Plan, as I have written before, is secure, and our returns are in the top 1% of all Taft Hartley Plans for 3-, 5- and 10-year periods.
The producers have agreed to put an additional $200 million into the Health Plan over the course of the next three years by way of increased hourly contributions.
This, coupled with our wage increases, gave us a comparable money package to those recently obtained by the DGA, WGA and AFTRA.
This left us with $387 million still to “find.” The reserves in the Health Plan, currently at 12.5 months in the active plan, and 16 months in the retiree plan, will be spent down to 6 and 8 months, respectively. This will provide $189 million toward the $387 million. (1 month of reserves equals the amount the Plan would spend providing coverage if all contributions ceased.)
The rest needed to come from Plan modifications. (The main ones outlined in my previous email.)
No one likes this. For us to keep the Health Plan intact, we did what we could to minimize the effect on all the members. This is not a “give back” to the producers, but a deal crafted in the face of rising costs in a terrible economic environment, based on what the consultants and actuaries, employed by both labor and management, as well as the Plans’ administrators, told the bargaining parties they needed.
The economics of the negotiation was all about the Health Plan. We needed, in a sense, this $587 million before we started, while still retaining a 3% wage increase per year. With inflation abating for the moment (the government number is .1% for 2008), we negotiated this 3% a year to make up for the years in other agreements where we had a $.50 or $.75 increase, when at that time, all the other money also went into the Health Plan.
Members have asked if an increase was necessary in the third year from 300 to 400 qualifying hours, why didn’t we increase the bank of hours? This would have increased costs, not decreased them. Raising the bank to 600 hours would have increased our shortfall by an additional $150 million. Remember, in 2000, the bank was increased from 300 to 450. Likewise, a two-tiered plan, if this were instituted, would result in a higher number of qualifying hours to qualify for the Plan we have.
Hopefully, the badly broken health care system in this country can be fixed, but in the meantime, every available dollar we can find has to go into our own health care.
It is still free to individuals and families, requiring work approximately 30% of the year.
As a Trustee and Co-chair of the Finance Committee of the Plans, I struggle with the economics of the Plans on an ongoing basis and assure you we are doing everything we can on all fronts.






Is no one going to mention the permission given in New Media projects to the Media Corporations to conduct NON-UNION WORK?
If the New Media proposal to IATSE is anything like what the AMPTP has offered all the other unions, the Headline is: “How the hell can you expect these hard-working crew members to make this 400 hr requirement when much of the work (in TV at first) will be NON-UNION.” (And “giving permission” means you can’t go in and organize it.)
Watch pilot season morph into “internet production” and why not; 90% of pilots shot never see the light of day anyway.
FIGHT.
400 hours will be a big problem for many on the TV show I’m on at the moment including me but what I see as a huge problem is the New Media terms to this agreement- it is union busting without a doubt.
If you think you will be working in television or movies in the next two or three years you will live what a bad deal the New Media deal is for IATSE members. It will be like working on low budget indie features all the time and hey I have already worked for nothing in order to get to where I am now – working on a IATSE Basic Hollywood Agreement show that can pay me a living wage and keep producers from abusing me and my crew.
Check out 400hours.com for New Media details.
Looks like IATSE membership is finally waking up to the fact that their leadership is in bed with the AMPTP
I have very little sympathy for IATSE. They went out of there way to undermine the WGA during their strike
good, now all the kvetchers from IASTSE that whined heir asses off about SAG going on strike can eat their words, and bend over and take it from the AMPTP…enjoy boys and girls….and remember, its best to work for massa no matter what you’re losing
To all the IATSE Members — Shut up and take the deal already!!!
Oh, and if IATSE strikes (which I seriously doubt they have the balls for) I’ll cross their line in a heart beat just like those schmucks crossed mine during the WGA strike.
Teamsters, now those guys I respect and won’t cross their line. I saw many teamsters walking with me during the WGA strike.
We all need to start talking, fellow IA members. This is only going to get worse, based on how little work there was last year and going into this one. It is absolutely necessary that our bank of hours be increased. Let’s show those SAG members how we can actually work together, for our collective good.
Ahh there is justice after all. I bet all those who have been posting on this site (Under fake names) telling SAG to suck up and take the deal will now change their names and say how can IASTE take this deal.
Well the shoe is now on your foot assholes.
Ok. So, where are the comments from all of the btl’ers who have continuously attacked actors who agreed with holding firm? Where ARE you folks? It is now too close to home? Are you maybe understanding, now that it’s in your backyard, what we as actors have been saying all these many months? Do you get it now? Although some of you have been so vile with your comments, we actors are supporting those IATSE members who are waging a campaign to vote “NO” on this piece of crap deal. I doubt you’ll see the amount of hateful vitriol from actors as we have from some of your members. In other threads I’ve actually read veiled death threats and warnings of poisoned food or beverages to Rosenberg and Johnson based on their lawsuit today from those who claim to be below the liners. So, now that the horrible “no residuals for all original product made for new media and endorsement of non union work in union contracts ball” is in your court, what are YOU going to do? Are you going to just take the deal because you’re worried about the economy or caterers or limo drivers or gardeners or etc… Please, open up your eyes. Your one person/one vote is even being threatened based on Nikki’s story. What are YOU going to do? I know there are thousands of actors just here in Hollywood who will stand up for you if you all stand up for yourselves. The AMPTP is trying to bust our unions. It’s as simple as that. And it looks like, based on what I’ve been reading lately on this site (although many have expressed the opinion that some of you are hired to blog for the employers), that the AMPTP will be successful. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! Nikki, thank you, again for some great reporting. That troll/ AMPTP mouthpiece Jonathon Handle can’t hold a candle to you.
“Oh, and if IATSE strikes (which I seriously doubt they have the balls for) I’ll cross their line in a heart beat just like those schmucks crossed mine during the WGA strike.”
Hey, WGA next time you strike why don’t you write a few more shows before you walk out.
“I have very little sympathy for IATSE. They went out of their way to undermine the WGA during their strike.”
Hey, I’m an IA member and I have NO sympathy for its leaders. It’s members, however, are another story, completely. Most are good people.
I’d also like you to know I and my entire crew walked the very morning the WGA strike began, and stayed gone until it was settled.
If IATSE has the balls to reject this obscenely shitty deal, I’ll be proud to walk with them, even if their members gave me the finger, told me to “get a life” and “fuck off” when I was walking last year for my union. I say this knowing fully that IATSE has no balls.
Prove me wrong, stand up for yourselves and I’ll stand with you.
A poster named “Vince” said, “I have very little sympathy for IATSE. They went out of there (sic) way to undermine the WGA during their strike.”
Vince, I have nothing BUT sympathy for IATSE members. The ones who work on my show were universally supportive during our strike. It’s their leadership who fought us, and their leadership pushing them to approve a deal giving up their health insurance.
The WGA contract has no provisions for sympathy strikes, but if the day comes when my BTL colleagues need to walk off their jobs to preserve their health benefits, my staff and I are going to come down with the worst case of writers block this town has ever seen.
This is another one of those “deals” which so many people are saying is “done and signed”. Uh, not really, as we all can see.
I, as a SAG member, would like to offer IATSE support instead of rancor. If SAG chooses to flip off our fellow guilds during this time of their contract negotiation problems, what does SAG expect in return?
Stop and think. Things need to change.
SAG has a huge opportunity here to show what we’re truly made of – to put into action something we’ve been talking about for months and months – solidarity. IATSE is going through some of the same bullshit from the AMPTP that SAG is. Yeah, the shoe may be on the other foot. And yeah, maybe IATSE members haven’t felt SAG’s position. Until now.
So, SAG members, let’s not rub IATSE’s faces in their plight. “Toldja so!” is a childish and ignorant response to their situation. We (SAG) all know what they’re going through, and this is a perfect example of why we should stand together instead of pointing fingers at each other and blaming each other for our political and industry differences.
We are the labor force of the entertainment industry – all of us – and we should all know by now who we’re fighting against. Our “enemy” isn’t each other. It’s the greed of the AMPTP.
IATSE is running out of pension and health funds because they squandered it in high-beta investment funds and when the market crashed, so did their cash/benefit reserves.
Where is the audit of these funds? There has been more than a little talk of some substantial kickbacks/”business gifts” being given to IATSE executives for keeping their money with funds that were too risky by their very nature to be bought by pension funds. Financial circles have been mumbling about this for over a year, BEFORE the market went South.
The enlistment of risky funds and bribes/payouts/gifts/whatever you want to call it is something that should be explained to the entire union, and immediately. Pension and medical funds should be held in just about the most low-risk portfolios there are: Fortune 500 bonds, commodity bonds, T-Bills. Yes, all those took a hit in these last few months, but to the tune of 8-18% and not the 45-75% declines of real estate securities and insurance notes. The pension funds should still be solvent and be able to function. With even the remotest bit of lackluster financial management, there is no reason at all for pension and medical reserves/time to shrink to 40% of what they were a few months ago. EXPLAIN IT… and to the rank-and-file… DEMAND A PUBLIC EXPLANATION.
The current deal… well, it’s akin to IATSE being promised Net Profit Points for working for free on a production… and we know there are never any profits (according to SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE, they even knew that back in Elizabethan times.)
And now the same people who lost your money are going to give your labor away. It’s a great leadership strategy… if they really worked for Nick Counter.
IATSE has been in bed with the AMPTP for a long time. Your mediocrity is now entrenched; you had no integrity and now you have no muscle, no money, no faith, no position.
Welcome to the land of non-union freelancers.
I’ve been saying since the writers strike “if you think the writers are getting a bad deal, wait until they get to us”.
Carol Lombardini has engineered it so that the unions have done all the fighting for the AMPTP. They sit back, watch us and laugh and we all let it happen. The sad fact is that we are all unable to realize that it is the AMPTP that is the enemy while we fight our co-workers…
As a IATSE member, I am keenly aware that my union was founded by Chicago gangsters with the idea of keeping wages low and insuring there are no strikes. For a price, of course…
We’re all in this together. I am a SAG member and I will stand by any UNION brother or sister anywhere.
I’d love to see all the big star names like Clooney, Damon, Diaz, Alexander, Baldwin, Hanks and all the others come out for the children of UNION members who are about to lose health care rather than sidling up with the AMPTP multi-national conglomerates saying “take the deal.”
Shame on you George Clooney. Shame on you Matt Damon. Shame on you Cameron Diaz. Shame on you Tom Hanks. Shame on you Jason Alexander. Well, Alec Baldwin, we already know he has a problem with kids.
I have sympathy for the Iatse folks who now know what it feels like to have their union leaders turn on them, and sell them out, without their knowing.
SAG members who have been paying attention know that with the written assent from the thin majority of the SAG National board, the leadership of SAG is about to sell out it’s membership as well.
There are people in our organizations who are being paid to bust our union. We all know it. You know who they are: they are the ones saying, “Take the deal”.
Agreed with all SAG members who say we should show our SUPPORT for the IATSE struggles, with many of our concerns (e.g., allowance for non-union work).
C’mon, guys & gals. Take the high (and right) road. Lead by example. Put aside the insane anonymous name-calling vitriolic SAG bashing from many of these same people, and rather than “fire back” with the same disrespect they’ve shown us, wish them the best in standing strong.
Expressing crash and burn for IATSE because the nasty attitude so many have demonstrated for us, not only gets us nowhere … but in the long run undermines us as well. At the end of the day, we really are all in this together.
Best wishes for membership getting it together and not getting railroaded by their so-called “leadership” to accept any POS contract proposal.
best,
sterling
Lest we all forget: the TRUE purpose of the IATSE has ALWAYS been to supply the AMPTP with a “compliant workforce.”
Can’t WAIT to vote YES on their latest “fair and wonderful contract.”
Yeah right….
As much as I appreciate the irony of this shoe sliding onto the other foot, many IATSE members have been supportive of the WGA/SAG woes. Regardless of the very vocal and abusive contingent, this is really an opportunity for the guilds to work together for once and stop letting the AMPTP play off on-set feuds in off-set business. The enemy here are the people who want to cut your wages, take away your health insurance, and then break your union so you’re never able to fight back again.
What Justine said.
See? It’s the AMPTP against us. And who is us? All the brothers and sisters who do the work for the people who think they make the vehicles for Hollywood commerce to move forward. Damn, it’s just like years ago back east, the people in the offices thought they could manipulate those who did the work, gave the sweat, spent the hours. We need to work together to show them that we know what’s right and what’s wrong. It’s not that we’re asking for more pie than we’re entitled. We’re just asking for the pie to be cut fairly. And the way to get that is to join together, be strong, and stand up to their bullying ways. IATSE members, the clear thinking, proactive part of SAG is with you, if you’re with us. Together, we’re stronger. Let’s not be divided.
I really don’t appreciate the vitriolic tone from Me Firsters attacking IA crew with profanity. Our deal was just presented to us. Our contract is not up until next August. We are 8 months ahead of even needing to have a conclusive vote. Our situation and yours(8 months without a contract) are completely different. The only similarity is that they offered less than we want. That is the common thread in any negotiation for anything. Including when you go to buy a car, the dealer wants one price and you want a number lower. Our membership has not weighed in yet, and they will. We have not yet even begun to negotiate, and we will do so professionally.
So please, don’t take your history and saddle us with it as if we were a party to the infighting, bungled negotiations, letters of assent, replacement of MF majority, erroneous press releases, NY vs. LA lawsuits, and temper tantrums that have come to define SAG’s history.
To amalgamate the two issues as one is really narrow minded and shows no thought into the complexity of your own struggles.
Lest we all forget: the TRUE purpose of the IATSE has ALWAYS been to supply the AMPTP with a “compliant workforce.”
Yes, this occasion certainly calls for a history lesson, and there is no better place for that than here:
The Sixtieth Anniversary of the "War for Warner Brothers"