UPDATE: Tonight, the SAG National Majority-controlled actors guild finally sent out its first statement regarding the current AMPTP negotiations standstill, and the AMPTP responded. (See both below) The rejection of the AMPTP’s “last best & final” offer made Wednesday was not a unanimous vote — 73% to 27% — at today’s Special Meeting of SAG’s National Board. And the panel refused a Membership First-sponsored motion to both reject the AMPTP’s “Last Best & Final” offer and in addition send out the Strike Authorization Vote to members. “The majority of MF didn’t believe just a rejection was strong enough,” a source tells me. But the board also refused to let SAG members choose whether to ratify the AMPTP’s proposed TV/Theatrical Contract as is. (FYI: I urged the previous leadership, and I’ll do it again now, to send out the contract to SAG members as soon as possible. They need to have their voices heard.) So, once again, the SAG-AMPTP negotiations for a new pact are at an impasse.
It continues to amaze me how the SAG National Majority and their handpicked new Interim National Executive Director David White and Chief Negotiator John McGuire have no immediate plan, no blueprint for the future, no even suggestions, as to what to do next now that the SAG-AMPTP talks are stalled yet again. Especially since the coalition-in-charge of Unite For Strength, the New York Division, and the Regional Branches kept complaining about the exact same impasse under the previous leadership. “Considering how they behaved today, they’re not just still in shock from Thursday. They must be in a coma,” my source said.
Several sources tell me that White himself told the National Board today that the AMPTP’s offer “sucked” — then apologized for using “such inappropriate language”. (I’m pretty sure SAG members have been using way worse words to describe it.) But White offered no guidance to the board as to what to do next. Nevertheless, his new $400,000+ contract as Interim NED was approved at today’s plenary. But it was done without any board vetting. “The New York Division denied the board any opportunity to ask questions regarding White or the contract,” one of my sources fumed tonight. “So SAG just hired its highest paid executive without an interview.” (One question would have been why White is receiving the equivalent of former NED and chief negotiator Doug Allen’s salary but doing only half the work.)
So now the SAG National Majority has put the Guild into an awkward “wait and see” position, naively hoping against hope that the AMPTP will take pity on it and offer better terms. As if. Even the previous leadership only faced a “last and best” offer, not a “last, best and final” offer which is even more unmoveable in labor negotiations. Especially with the AMPTP threatening to withdraw it or offer worse terms if the LB&O isn’t approved within 60 days. ”Things are at more of a standstill than before,” a source tells me. My own guess is that the AMPTP will laugh in SAG’s face. One SAG National Majority member told the meeting she thought SAG should just stay with its old contract — which would mean absolutely no pay for New Media at all for the actors for another two years at least.
Here’s the SAG statement tonight:
STATEMENT FROM SAG NATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS
SAG NATIONAL BOARD REJECTS AMPTP LAST, BEST AND FINAL OFFERLos Angeles, (February 21, 2009) – The Screen Actors Guild National Board of Directors today voted 73% to 27% to “reject the AMPTPs last, best and final offer dated February 19, 2009.”
We entered this round of negotiations sending an unmistakably clear message that we were ready to make a deal. In an effort to put the town back to work, our negotiator agreed to modify the Guild’s bargaining position to bring the Guild in line with the deals made by our sister unions.
The AMPTPs last-minute, surprise demand for a new term of agreement extending to 2012 is regressive and damaging and clearly signals the employers’ unwillingness to agree to the deal they established with other entertainment unions. The demand for a new term of agreement was not part of their final offer of June 30, 2008; it was not part of the federally mediated talks of November 2008, and should not have been inserted into the discussions when we returned to negotiations on February 17, 2009.
What management presented as a compromise is, in fact, an attempt to separate Screen Actors Guild from other industry unions. By attempting to extend our contract expiration one year beyond the other entertainment unions, the AMPTP intends to deleverage our bargaining position from this point forward.
Screen Actors Guild’s goal is to successfully complete these negotiations and get the industry back to work as soon as possible. The AMPTP has clearly stated their need and desire for financial certainty and industry peace. This new proposal does the exact opposite, and will only result in constant negotiating cycles and continued labor unrest.
So the SAG National Majority now admits it rolled back the previous leadership’s bargaining positions. Yet see how the AMPTP tells the so-called “moderates” that their terms are still too militant. Here’s the AMPTP statement:
The Producers’ offer is strong and fair – and has been judged to be strong and fair by all of Hollywood’s other major Guilds and Unions. We have kept our offer on the table – and even enhanced it – despite the historically
unprecedented economic crisis that has clobbered our nation and our industry. The Producers have always sought a full three-year deal with SAG, just as we negotiated with all the other Unions and Guilds, and have offered SAG a way to achieve an earlier expiration date without contributing to further labor uncertainty. We simply cannot offer SAG a better deal than the rest of the industry achieved under far better economic conditions than those now confronting our industry.
- AMPTP Gives SAG “Last Best Final” Offer And Blows Off New Negotiators: Deja Vu
- Why The Smoke & Mirrors, SAG & AMPTP?
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Dear New York,
Fuck you.
Sincerely,
Los Angeles
Does it feel like you’ve just played into the hands of the guys pulling the strings. With 70% of the pilots being shot HiDef i.e. AFTRA and probably not a big deal to relaunch exsisting shows into that medium regardless of what they say can’t be done. SAG, as far as television goes, has just lept to it’s demise. Sorry guys.
I urge the leadership to send SAG members the strike authorization ballots as soon as possible. We need to have our voices heard.
hulu and youtube are moving to the speed of light:
HULU COMMERCIAL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m71m-LBqFQ
“Hulu. An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy”
WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO DESTROY OUR GUILD. We’ll strike. The membership of SAG won’t accept peanuts as payment for our work.
YOUTUBE NEWS RELEASE:
http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=sDFlZe7FwJI
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“historically unprecedented economic crisis”? WTF? Haven’t these idiots ever heard of the Depression in the 1930s? Either they were skipping history class during high school or have the IQ of a toilet plunger! Oh wait, I’m sorry, I forgot this is Hollywood where they rewrite the past to fit their views.
Wanna kick me off the Hollywood board? Be my guest. You’ll be doing me a favor and I would go quietly. Membership SHOULD hold the fellow members they elected responsible and show the door to those board members that aren’t living up to the covenant of representing the branch that elected them. I just need to get something off my chest. And through this whole political drama it’s been eating away at me. This last round of banging our head against the wall just popped my cork so here goes…
As clueless as SAG’s new “leadership” has proven to be, the AMPTP has now gone off the deep end.
They have just joined the ranks of those corporations that have no connection with reality. The old way of doing business is not going to cut it anymore. Their determination to hammer the unions into poverty will make no difference going forward. They will not slow the deterioration of their revenue streams until there is new, bold, forward-looking leadership in the executive halls of the member corporations of the AMPTP.
How does one make a statement like, “The Producers’ offer is strong and fair – and has been judged to be strong and fair by all of Hollywood’s other major Guilds and Unions,” with a straight face? WGA is suing over their “strong and fair” contract that took a 100 day strike to reach. IATSE membership is in open revolt over the “strong and fair” contract their leadership struggled to reach. Even the DGA enthusiasm for their “precedent setting” template has softened considerably now that the New Media numbers are rolling in. And AFTRA? … whatever… I can’t figure that union out…
How does an industry receive a billion dollars – $1,000,000,000.00 – in revenue in one month in a single antique initial exhibition system (theatrical release) at the onset of “the historically unprecedented economic crisis that has clobbered our nation and our industry,” and claim financial uncertainty?
How can it be, according to the SAG press release that, “AMPTP has clearly stated their need and desire for financial certainty and industry peace” when 2008-2009 will go down in history as the year the AMPTP tried to bust the unions?
Is it all strategy? Business savvy? Disingenuousness? Myopia? Mendacity? Spin? Maybe some or all of those. But over time, something else has revealed itself – a schizophrenic and paranoid management culture consumed by stock market fluctuations and the evaporation of the credit markets that have been funding their day-to-day operations. They appear to be in complete panic about the immediate future of the business…well maybe not “the business”. More likely, their corporate SOLVENCY!
Where just a few months ago they were smug and cagey about their New Media initiatives, they are now stumbling over themselves to meet debt obligations, margin calls, put warrants, stock option pay-outs, covered and uncovered interest arbitrage maturities, etc. All the whiz-bang financial games that turn a billion dollars of revenue in one month, and a record box-office year, and “better-than-expected” profit margins in New Media, and stabilizing DVD revenue, and any number of Wall Street rosy press releases into real world, hard-as-nails, middle-management lay-off inducing cash flow crisis.
The problem is not greedy labor. It’s comatose management. The light at the end of the New Media tunnel is a train that will obliterate these companies as we now recognize them unless they realize their only hope is to lock-up the most expert, efficient, creative, innovative, and dedicated labor forces in the world. The barriers to entry in every aspect of their businesses have evaporated before their eyes. Even their previously unassailable monopoly on distribution has all but disappeared. Leaving only the shell of their network brands to carry them onto the internet and the future. Their only real hope is to dominate the QUALITY of content and to do that they must…MUST… have exclusive access to the entertainment unions. Just the creation of an accepted non-union work space will explode competition beyond anything ever imagined before and end the reign of Big Media in very short order. Look at the music industry, publishing, major newspapers, and, yes, the internet. Anybody wanna buy some AOL Time-Warner stock?
But that’s not what they are doing. The AMPTP is charged with doing precisely the opposite while the capital structures of the member companies collapse around them and the bosses stare off into the horizon imagining all sorts of TARP-hope scenarios and Obama-nomic miracles.
Look, The easy-credit gravy-train is over. Done. Fin.
It was a great way thirty-five or twenty-five or even fifteen years ago to finance a merger, or buy a competitor, or launch a mini-network. You could buy a lot of credit based on “synergies” and projected revenues of THE SOPRANOS or THE SIMPSONS DVD release or whatever. Companies and divisions were valued in terms of multiples, Cash flow MULTIPLES became the basis for equity valuations which in turn were leveraged to take on more debt to finance acquisitions, production, and, eventually, operations themselves. Payrolls, bonuses, dividends, you name it. All the obligation stuff that before required cold hard CASH reserves became routinely fulfilled by revolving credit facilities and short term paper.
No more. Yesterday carrying cash on your books was for suckers and old-folks. Today carrying cash is the only way to stay in business. And what generates cash? CONTENT! And who makes the best content? The CREATIVE and TECHNICAL GUILDS! What can these moguls be thinking? Now is not the time to squeeze and alienate the work forces that build your essential product. Now is the time to throw money at them and embrace them and SECURE them and monopolize them so that you dominate QUALITY product.
Good luck with those tax incentives. Good luck convincing the secondary credit markets, if and when they start lending again, to risk funding your shitty “low-budget” non-union New Media production slate. Good luck going forward with nothing “in the can”. Good luck convincing your new credit source – the US tax-payer – that busting the unions is a sound business strategy.
It’s a brave new world. AMPTP will not survive. WGA & DGA & IATSE & Teamsters & SAG will.
Okay?
So here’s how you kick us out…
SAG Constitution & By-Law, Article XIII, Section 2
It ain’t easy, but it’s do-able.
Maybe this way you’ll actually get to vote on something…
“So now the SAG National Majority has put the Guild into an awkward “wait and see” position”
All they’ve done for the last year is wait and see! I used to be on your side, SAG, but this is rigoddamndiculous. Will you DO something? All you’ve proven to the AMPTP is that you are willing to work without a contract for nearly a year, you are too chickenshit to call a SAV, and your leadership’s pathetic schoolyard infighting is now the joke and the punchline. What is your leverage, SAG? Why should the AMPTP be worried at all about your next move? At this point maybe you can look forward to ruining the 2010 awards season. To paraphrase Robert Towne, you look like a bunch of monkeys trying to f**k a football. Take the new crap deal, keep the old deal, merge with AFTRA, call the SAV, splinter into oblivion and call it a day – just do something.
Time to start with holding dues. Starve the beast until it’s dead – or it wants to act in our best interest.
Ned Vaughn, Amy Brennerman and Kate Walsh – you will forever be known as failures. Epic failures.
# Step 1 – We admitted we were powerless over our addiction – that our lives had become unmanageable
# Step 8 – Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
# Step 10 – Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
Thank you, Clancy.
Another do-able and even more interesting and effective solution to this stalemate,(exactly what a number of members have been asking for), is found in the SAG Constitution, Article X, Section 2 (A)-(E):
“The membership may obtain a referendum vote challenging any action of the Board of Directors which is national in scope…..”
Let’s look at the AMTP’s actions over the last few days through the working assumption that they want to break SAG and have the unwitting(?) stooges of the UFS to stay in power.
1. They could not simply present the AFTRA contract because there is a good chance membership would vote it down.
2. They had to make it seem like UFS had achieved something at the negotiating table so that they can feasibly stay in power.
3. To do this they had to make an offer that was worse than the one already on the table and then *allow* UFS to negotiate back close to where it was, that way UFS can claim a victory and send it to members with a “well the alternative was even worse”
All of these actions (#3 will happen in the next few weeks) increases their chances of ratification of a contract that will destroy SAG.
The UFS idiots biggest mistake all along is not realising that the AMTP are using them as a vehicle to destroy SAG and have no interest in any other outcome.
Here’s what most actors resumes will read at the top under union status soon.
SAG Fi-Core / AFTRA
If you really want to show solidarity, don’t go to the Oscars tonight.
Just don’t go.
It’s the ONLY, and I mean ONLY, little bit of power you have left.
Clancy Brown you rock!! I want you to stay put. Masur on the other hand…. could you go find another union to destroy and leave ours alone!!!! Let the members VOTE!!!
clancy brown just gave you a window into how intelligent, informed, and experienced the MF negotiators are/were (it was an act of warfare on sag to unseat certain MF members from the neg com, and was a supreme act of idiocy on part of those who unseated them).
sag exists to protect actors’ wages and working conditions. many members of sag don’t even know how horrible the working conditions were before the union was formed. they might not realize sag was made possible because the stars at the time stood in solidarity with the day players. we are all actors, and today’s day player might be on tomorrow’s a-list.
a-listers get screwed, too. sometimes in ways they never anticipated. it’s really a very select few who can dictate the terms of their own overall monetary compensation, and even they are one or two shitty projects away from becoming box office poison.
everyone in this equation is interdependent, including the amptp. the production and distribution models as we’ve known them are outmoded and nobody, not even the amptp, has figured out that they need to start thinking outside the box. the studios and networks are flailing. in their death throes, they’re making very stupid decisions.
the amptp are not the actors’ authority figures. some actors are very used to other people making decisions for them — their agent, their director, their business manager, etc. — but in this case, actors need to take responsibility for themselves to figure out what’s going on, come up with a collective plan AS A UNION, and take action. a good place to start is to figure out who you’ve elected to represent you and what they’ve actually done to move the union into the new age — or not.
the members of UFS/NY/RB are NOT the people who are capable of coming up with an effective, realistic plan. they’re tantrum-throwers who managed to get their way for a minute. but it will be only a minute, because they don’t know what they’re doing, and it’s just a matter of time before the sag membership starts to notice what’s really going on.
You have to give SAG credit. Just when you think they couldn’t possibly make themselves more of a joke, they do.
The problem is that most of SAG (like most of the WGA) rarely if ever work and so, by doing all this bullshit, they’re getting their revenge on those who do work in the business for a living. It’s far easier on this losers to blame a strike or threat of a strike than to blame themselves for their own lack of talent or drive.
Come on, guys, this is simple. Send the AMPTP contract to the membership and let them vote up or down on the damned thing. To save on postage, slip the SAV in the same envelope. Kill two birds with one stone and let’s get this freakin’ show on the road.
What Clancy Brown states is true. It absolutely is beyond logic for the AMPTP to approach negotiations this way. If their shareholders only knew …
There is a way for SAG — and the rest of the unions –to obtain fair, just and equitable agreements. Begin by recognizing that right now labor is in a fight to the death with management and to win requires ruthlessly going after in a fight to the death — because it will be nothing less than that — the gigantic Achilles’ heal of the member companies of AMPTP and DESTROYING the economic and political bases that the member companies have taken for granted. Destroy what??? I’ll tell you: Use the political process to get the Congress, The SEC, and the Justice Department to go after the studios for their CRIMINAL accounting practices that cheat profit participants out of hundreds of millions of dollars yearly. Get U.S. Attorney General to use the RICO and other racketeering statutes to smash the studios — after all, they are and have been engaging in criminal conspiracies for years to criminally defraud profit participants. Get the Congress to hold hearings on Hollywood’s accounting practices and watch the studio executives squirm on camera as they are forced to plead the Fifth Amendment. Later, gleefully watch as individual studio heads are cuffed and have to do the perp walk in front of the cameras. The guilds and unions must buy stock in the affected companies in order to put the screws to management at shareholders meetings. Make it open warfare against management 24/7. Use the SEC to investigate the criminal accounting practices and their affect on shareholder value. Under all this warlike tumult, sit back and watch the stock values of the companies plummet through the basement and watch the shareholders overthrow management. Then finally watch the financially-eviserated, damaged and weakened companies make the fair deals that ATL and BTL talent deserve. In a nutshell, unless the financial Gibraltar that the companies have been so comfortably relying on and taking for granted as their right and due is destroyed and the playing field thus levelled, it is the end of the road for SAG, WGA, and the rest. . . And this is just a general statement and broad outling of a winning strategy. It is easy to refine the strategy and sharpen it and polish it and then — go for the jugular.
ewk,
Congress got millions of dollars from Hollywood power players (Clooney, Hanks, Spielberg, et al) in the last election. Congress is not going bite the hand that feeds them by jumping into the middle of this mess just because we want them to; especially right now when they have a few other things on their plate — like saving the entire US economy. (Though I’m sure they’d love your pitch about bringing the entertainment industry to its knees; which, of course, would result in more layoffs and more unemployement. That’s just what Congress wants to hear right now.) And the Justice Department and SEC are up to their ears in regulatory reviews and banking investigations. We’d be lucky to get a hearing before the next presidential election. Try it if you want, but the harsh reality is that we have to do this ourselves.
What ewk said. I’ve often wondered why the studios have not been investigated for collusion and fraud. They are public companies-their books are subject to public scrutiny.
Clancey is also correct. I’ve never understood the business philosopy that “the one who creates the product you sell is the enemy”. I’m happy to continue on with the current contract and team up with all the other guilds when their contracts are up. We don’t need to be compromising and codifying anything at this point.
When New York and the Branches replaced the negotiating committee I was willing to give it a chance. Unfortunately what I suspected would happen-happened. New York and the Branches are much more loyal to AFTRA than SAG which is why we are in this mess.
Isn’t John McGuire the one who got us shafted on DVDs? The last few contracts have been very bad considering the record profits made by the studios. Now the business is going through the roof and they are still asking us to take cuts as well as laying off their workers? When your hedge funds and risky investments take a hit then you (AMPTP) need to think about getting to work and producing good products that you can sell, because you can be replaced as producing organizations very easily in this climate.
All of us in the industry need to understand that if SAG, the strongest of our unions, can’t get what it wants or worse, gets broken, then we’re all in trouble.
The producers must be absolutely gleeful at the thought of all of us fighting each other because the only way we have any strength is to support each other. I do not want a strike because it would be financially devastating but the continued infighting with no progress is being felt by all of us and it has hurt as well. So far the producer’s strategy of divide and conquer has worked beautifully. We have to be smarter than this to succeed. We have to think about the consequences of our actions today on what our lives will be like in this industry in fifteen years. Do we all really want to sit around talking about the good old days when we got overtime and meal penalties? When we had health insurance and a pension?
Let’s not fight each other while the true enemy sits laughing at us on the sidelines.
And actors wonder why people don’t take them seriously. Another week, and yet another stunning SAG blunder.
You folks better take Nikki’s advice and demand that YOU vote on the contract, not the cast of fools in your “leadership”. Otherwise, SAG will soon cease to exist.
The way SAG has handled negotiations is proof of what I’ve always believed, which is that acting is a business for morons who aren’t very intelligent and aren’t capable of doing anything else. They’ve been absolutely stupid in their negotiations, and now they’re getting their just desserts. I don’t feel sorry for actors at all, and at this point, I doubt anyone else does, either.
Thank you, Clancy Brown.You gave a name to the 800 lb, gorilla in theroom.Whether it’s the AMPTP or Detroit or Wall St.,it’s the same tired scenario.They don’t understand that taking our money will only weaken them in the long run.Give me a dollar and that becomes $1.50 in the world.Take my dollar and put it in trust and it becomes money taken out of the market.
The idea that the studios were bargaining in good faith is the first lie we told ourselves.Once we accepted that premise,we could go about assigning blame to one another,which is easier than recognizing the enormity of the challenge,and what seems to be a monolithic adversary ( I don’t think they are,in fact;look at the multitude of producers who want to make an equitable deal).But they are imposing in their wrongheadedness.And as actors,it’s a given that we don’t feel worthy,which is ironic since we had the faith to take the chance on becoming actors in the first place.So we assume it must be us who’s screwing up.
For me,it’s time to rethink the notion of the actor as knave.My parents were actors,I’ve been doing this for 35 years,and my eldest daughter is an actress.A family disease is the lame excuse I offer.But when I think that my mother and father fought for and won the right to residuals,and the right to claim them for uemployment,and that the legacy for my child is the reversal of that, I am ashamed.We need to rethink the notion of ourselves as creatures desperate for recognition from people who are not our peers.And if that means “branding” ourselves,and becoming producers,and overturning the old ideas of labor v. management,then so be it.
Please stay,Clancy,you’re most necessary.
At this point all the unions should strike… Today, do not wait anymore. I am in the IA and our leadership has always caved in. I think SAG should have striked in June
as this mess would be behind us.. More talk is only going to hurt all of us for the rest of the year..
Everybody I know is struggling for work so if the producers only understand a strike, lets all do it now SAG,IA,WGA whoever.. They will understand that..Otherwise make a deal and live with it because we are all in hell anyway.. It is only going to hurt a little bit more to strike.. And how long would that be ?
The Studios are already screwed because they do not have product .. Please make a stand now or shut up because internal fighting is only making a bad taste in everybody mouth…
MAKE A STAND NOW
Dear Ned Vaughn, Amy Brenneman, Kate Walsh and James Ceomwell:
FUCK YOU!!!!
Oh, and George Clooney, Tom Hanks and all you multi-millionaire, forgot what it’s like to have to struggle to make a living, points on the gross, traitors:
FUCK YOU TOO!!!