
There’s more trouble for Jeff Zucker and Ben Silverman. NBC’s upcoming Universal Media Studios sitcom
Parks And Recreation was supposed to be a real winner since the mockumentary comes from Greg Daniels and Michael Schur of The Office and stars Amy Poehler. I say “supposed” because there are problems galore in the rough-cut pilot, according to a March 18th-dated “Consumer And Market Intelligence Research Summary” which I saw this weekend. Considering the show starts airing April 9th, can Parks And Recreation get fixed in time? You be the judge: here are some excerpts from the 12-page report (9 are charts and graphs):
• PARKS AND RECREATION’s overwhelming resemblance to THE OFFICE caused many viewers to simply see it as a “carbon copy” of a successful show. The pilot was seen as “predictable” and lacking in character development, even for a pilot. PARKS AND RECREATIONS needs to differentiate itself from THE OFFICE; otherwise it runs the risk of being seen as “derivative,” “forced,” and “unoriginal.”
• Expectations for this show are very high, especially among OFFICE viewers. Many had seen the promos and were expecting an “OFFICE-type mockumentary” with the same tone, but felt the pilot was too close and similar to the OFFICE. However, many OFFICE fans were quick to point out that THE OFFICE did not become their favorite show overnight. For many, the show grew on them overtime and viewers expect a similar pattern with PARKS & RECREATION and, given their excitement for the show, most are willing to give it a longer commitment than they would another new comedy. This goodwill is stronger than usual, but viewers will expect to see the show to be as good as THE OFFICE soon. Furthermore, labeling the show as being “from the producers of THE OFFICE” adds credibly to the show and helps raise viewers’ expectations.
• Focus needs to evolve away from the pit — consider showing Leslie [Amy Poehler] and her team dealing with various parks and recreation duties. There is a lot of interest in exploring the comedy potential in a government office. The bureaucracy that exists at this type of local government is “very believable” and viewers hoped it could provide for some quirky and silly situations. Based on the promos that are currently airing, most expect storylines to take place in parks around the city.
Characters
• Although many saw her as the “Michael Scott character [from The Office]”, Amy Poehler was well liked. SNL fans felt her character Leslie was a bit “too serious” and “too low-key” and many expected her to have more energy and enthusiasm, especially when she is getting drunk at the end of the show. Viewers appreciate her “big heart” and the fact that she is trying to help Ann and Andy.• The show could use a genuinely likeable male lead. The lack of quality male characters was evident in both the Dial Test and Focus Groups. While Leslie, Ann and April are good characters; all the men in the show were seen as “sleazy” in one way or another. Because there are no “datable” men in the cast, there is little “romantic tension” or “interesting relationship potential” in the show.
Execution & Tune-out
• The beginning of the show needs to better explain the setting and situation. Many were confused as to the reasons and motivations behind the “documentary.” Many asked if it was about Leslie or Ann or the pit even given that the show opens on Ann and Andy and not Leslie.• Pacing was seen as “slow”. 40% of Viewers felt the “pace of the show was too slow.” This was especially evident during the scenes in the conference room or offices of the municipal building.
• Good positive spikes in the opening scenes and during the classroom open forum session but positive spikes flatten during the scenes in Leslie’s office and when she meets Mark out on the patio (Approx Mins 8:30-9:30).
• Highest positive spike comes from Leslie falling into the pit.
• The last 6:30 (approx) suffer from lower positives and higher negatives as “slower” and “more tedious” scenes are featured. Ron’s opinion on the role of government and his discussion with Mark received low positives throughout. The conference room discussion about the committee’s name as the tag was “too long” and “too much of the same joke” for many viewers.
• High tune-out during the opening 4 minutes, especially during Ron’s description of public forums. Tune-outs resume after the classroom forum scene when the action takes place in Leslie’s office and out on the patio during her discussion and testimonials with Mark.
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.
• Expectations for this show are very high, especially among OFFICE viewers. Many had seen the promos and were expecting an “OFFICE-type mockumentary” with the same tone, but felt the pilot was too close and similar to the OFFICE. However, many OFFICE fans were quick to point out that THE OFFICE did not become their favorite show overnight. For many, the show grew on them overtime and viewers expect a similar pattern with PARKS & RECREATION and, given their excitement for the show, most are willing to give it a longer commitment than they would another new comedy. This goodwill is stronger than usual, but viewers will expect to see the show to be as good as THE OFFICE soon. Furthermore, labeling the show as being “from the producers of THE OFFICE” adds credibly to the show and helps raise viewers’ expectations.

Ughh… I wonder how much NBC paid for a 12 page report of which 9 pages were pretty pictures and the other 3 notes that could have come from an intern.
Or to put it another way… how do I get paid to produce such a report?
From what I’ve seen, yeah, “derivative,” “forced,” and “unoriginal” sounds about right.
Amy Poehler better have a backup plan. Or at least still has Lorne on speed dial.
Ah yes, an audience is confused by much of what’s going on, then suddenly:
“Highest positive spike comes from Leslie falling into the pit.”
Hehehehehe, funny lady fall into pit!
I have no idea if this show will be good or not (although hope so, of course), and the whole idea of doing something so similar to your biggest comedy hit seems a bad one to me, as even if it is good it dilutes the brand of the original… BUT that all said, MANY quality comedies that are now considered among the best ever tested terribly and had to deal with dumb notes like those shown here.
(We would never have George Costanza if the writers of Seinfeld had been stuck trying to make everyone “likable” for dial tests and focus groups.)
“Cheers” came in last place its first year on the air.
“Seinfeld” struggled its first year.
“The Office” also struggled, not hitting its stride until the second season
The “30 Rock” pilot is one of the very worst episodes of the show and yet it found its way (quickly in their case.)
While yes, some shows do gangbusters right out of the gate, most need time for the ensemble to come together, for the writers to find the right tone and balance — simply for a series to find its voice.
I’m not sure printing these notes helps anyone — not the creators of the show trying to make it work, nor the audience who reads this blog, as all it does is show us a work in progress. It seems the point of printing them here is simply to make NBC look bad, but really you just have to look at the weekly ratings to do that. Why bother showing this?
What next, are we going publish the networks’ notes on writers’ first drafts of their pilots?
This has the potential! NBC needs to give it a chance. More original stories to come I am sure. Do not remove it from the air yet! As stated before, great shows have had a slow start, GIVE THIS SHOW ITS TIME TO SHINE!!!
Alicia from Marietta, GA
You see notes like this and its no wonder the BBC is making more interesting comedies than the USA.
Everyone has to be “nice” and “likable” and “help others.” And usually networks want everyone to be great at their job, too.
Because characters who are sweet and always do the right thing and are perfect are hilarious!
Louie De Palma? A saint.
Homer Simpson? Never messes up or is selfish.
George Costanza? Always trying to help others.
Dwight Schrute? A big heart. Very date-able.
Not that all your characters should be a-holes, of course, but they shouldn’t be made so vanilla and bland as to not be funny. And this kind of testing, with those stupid dials and focus group questions, just leads to bland bland characters and more people going to Reality Shows to find the entertaining characters they used to get in comedies.
They should go back and shoot inserts of Poehler looking at the camera and buggin’ out her eyes. Because that was so funny in “Baby Mama” and “SNL” and almost everything else she’s done.
WOW. This is FUCKING NUTS. Focus groups NEVER have any negative feedback on anything, much less pilots. This is really a RARE situation. Thanks for the “inside scoop.”
I can’t comprehend why they’d even attempt a second mockumentary show. Clearly the Office team could’ve generated a decent single-camera comedy without blatantly going back to the well.
It ALWAYS happens with successful formulas: the parasites come to milk from the mother load. Meh.
I really like Amy, but with those comments it might not make it past the pick up point. Why not a baby mama spin off. Amy living like the Beverly Hillbillies like P. Hilton but out of place? Or what about Amy as a newscaster like Mary Tyler Moor, but not 30 Rock. Or how’s this in the new GQ Amy is dressed up like a young Mary put her in Dick Van Dyke spinoff. No pun intended. Or better yet hire me as a show runner and I’ll turn it around in two weeks.
I actually took part in this study in Las Vegas… the show was horrid. It was not even a “poor mans” version of The Office but much much worse.
So much potential and it really was wasted. Basically the problem was the focus on the “pit” issue was so overdone and it actually became boring.
The highlite for me was the sighting of Chris Pratt from Everwood as the guy who originally fell into the pit.
You know… a lot of those notes would have been a bit more useful when it was still a script…
Didn’t the Friends pilot also test kind of poorly? I’m not saying this show will turn into a Friends level hit, but these kinds of focus groups are pretty useless.
None of those guys are datable? Huh.
Shame on you Nikki for buying into the conclusions of a fucking focus group! You’ve always been on the side of the creatives, why in the world would you validate these idiot focus groups by just blindly agreeing with their “results”?
These reports are a bunch of crap. Larry David was given as a gift a framed copy of the report of the Seinfeld pilot that was much more negative than this one by an NBC exec. The exec thought it was funny. Larry replied “Why is it funny? You still use these.” Nikki I’m surprised you’d publish this. Any good show is bound to get a negative one.
I’m wondering if anyone involved in this show has ever actually worked in Parks and Recreation. I did–for a couple of decades and believe it or not, I have a degree in the subject (yes, I knowm, THAT is funny).
First, they don’t call it “Parks and Recreation” any more. The title is dated..by about 20 years.
There are endless comedic storylines (we often talked at work about how the whole gig should be a sitcom) and endless visual settings. City politics are intricate and funny…and there are plenty of hot-guy characters to be created (there are way more guys in that line of work that girls). You can even do the “dramatic issue of the week” stuff in relation to drugs, gangs, homeless and child care–those city services are often in the P&R department.
Sounds like they missed the mark. Not because there aren’t plenty of marks to hit.
A
It’s called Parks & Recreation in PA. I guess we’re 20 yrs behind the times in the Philly area, and more than 20 yrs behind in the Tucky part of Pennsyltucky.
I feel badly for Poehler. She’s a fine talent and a good person caught up in a desperate, dying network’s stupid impulse to just photocopy its few successes and plaster its schedule with see-through clones.
To the male Series Regulars on “Parks and Recreation”: The good news is, you booked a network series. The bad news is, a 12-page “Consumer And Market Intelligence Research Summary” calls you “undatable.”
Ouch.
Jesus, Nikki, are you putting this much value in audience testing? Stop exposing yourself as knowing nothing about making content. If you want audience testing spikes, just have big boobs walk into the scene.
Having worked within the parks & recreation division of the town I grew up in (I lifeguarded for a few years), there should be plenty of material to develop storylines different from the office. The thing about a parks & recreation dept is that few actually work in an office but typically spread all about town on beaches, in parks, in rec centers.
Testing can suck my ASS!!!! It’s a big waddevah! Ultimately what matters is not a spike or a this or a that, it’s whether audiences like the show in general and want to spend time with the characters week in and week out. And shows get better. Remember 30 Rock’s dreadful pilot? And now look at it.
As we all know (or at least assume know), research reports like this represent a panel of probably 30 people or so. And, historically, the best comedies always seem to test horribly. Also, the way this is written, it feels more like the opinion of the NBC research executive more than anything. I have been to focus groups and then have read the report from the research team and have asked “were you at the same session i was??!!??”
So, while I have NO idea if this show is good or not, I do know that this type of data is really tricky to be out there for public consumption before the show has even aired.
I feel bad for the writers/producers/actors who have to now overcome pre-ordained failure.
And, NBC has got to figure out who their leak is because this is crazy that this report has been leaked.
Maybe it’s just me but I wish we were rooting for success (and supporting each in that endeavor – Mike Shur is one of the funniest best guys and doesn’t deserve this) rather than delighting in failure.
C’mon Nikki. Putting stake in research reports? How about putting up the research reports on Seinfeld or other shows and let’s see just how reliable that crap is.
Greg Daniels is one of the few geniuses in this business. Yes, it may have too many similarities to The Office, but I have no doubt that he’ll make it into its own thing and a terrific show.
And I’m not alone in having that faith. If you want to put any stake in this research, put it in this key part:
“However, many OFFICE fans were quick to point out that THE OFFICE did not become their favorite show overnight. For many, the show grew on them overtime and viewers expect a similar pattern with PARKS & RECREATION and, given their excitement for the show, most are willing to give it a longer commitment than they would another new comedy. This goodwill is stronger than usual.”
Nikki, c’mon already. I’ve no doubt somebody at NBC deserves your ire, but this research is meaningless — if anything, it may be counter-indicative. Look up “Friends” at thesmokinggun. You’d think it was a snuff film from the audience reaction. Seinfeld tested in the tank. Ricky Gervais has said in interviews that the original “Office” tested among the lowest in BBC history. On the other hand I wrote a show a few years ago that tested “through the roof”…but I (and the rest of America who eventually voted with their remotes) knew it was a mess. Examples like these are very much the rule rather than the exception when it comes to comedies. Dramas may be different, although it’s hard to imagine why they would be.
This audience research with the dials and the focus groups is very expensive and consistently proves to be worthless, yet the studios and the networks KEEP DOING IT. It has many obvious problems: 1) 30-40 strangers watch the show as a group. This is not how people normally consume TV. 2) While they are watching it as a group, they each turn a dial to indicate how much they like it MOMENT BY MOMENT. This has no correlation to anything in real life; people do not evaluate their happiness or lack thereof in this way. 3) Most importantly, during testing they are watching the show from an active, analytical perspective rather than being immersed in the world the characters inhabit; in other words they are particularly aware of watching a product in which some actors say lines that people wrote and cameras recorded.
Okay, I’m done with this, except to say that it’s an area that could use some serious investigative reporting that asks the question: Why do they continue to spend millions of dollars on testing every year if the testing does not indicate whether or not people will like the show?