When this was done in January, I didn't understand why the GCCs were no longer needed since indies have a tough enough time as it is getting all their ducks in a row necessary to start production. So the purpose of the Guaranteed Completion Contracts was to prevent any serious (aka strike) disruption in the independent feature production process as SAG went into negotiations with the AMPTP. But then the pacts were discontinued under the new leadership of the SAG National Majority (but while Doug Allen was still National Executive Director) even though the National Board's decision to send out a Strike Authorization Ballot had not been rescinded. (And still hasn't.) Now, just as I suspected, an indie producer whose last film won Oscar nominations has written me to describe how SAG's halt of these GCCs is harming his biz:
"I find myself wishing you'd write a little about the consequences of SAG's recent halt of 'Guaranty of Completion' contracts, which were popularly known as 'waivers'.
"As you know, under the Guaranty, if an independent producer like me could raise money for a picture with no AMPTP financing or distribution, he or she could be certain that in the event of an actors' strike, the film would be allowed to complete photography.
'But SAG decided to stop issuing those guaranties a month or more ago. And now I'm completely shut down, along with all new independent production.
If I don't have an applicable guaranty issued last year, I can't get a completion bond without posting an additional contingency in the event of a strike to cover the costs of shutting down, holding the show for up to four months, and starting up again.
"Like it's not hard enough now to raise production financing without having TWO contingencies.
"And I have to have a clause in the performers' contracts guaranteeing first option of return, which will be impossible if the actor is working my movie in a hiatus from a television contract.
"My contact at Film Finances, the premier completion bond company for independent production, told me that the head of NY SAG said to her, "Oh, we'd never shut down an independent production." But the SAG official wouldn't put that in writing, so the bond company can't rely on it. Thanks for the assurance: It's worthless.
"The behavior of the AMPTP is certainly aggressive. The insistence of the contract's duration starting from signature not expiry must have Alan Rosenberg out there screaming at the SAG moderates, "You see? You see who we're dealing with? I tried to tell you!"
"But meantime I can't put pictures together and I can't hire actors. What is the SAG executive team thinking? Shutting down folks like me won't help their negotiation with the majors.
"Weirdly, no one seems to know about the consequences of this new SAG policy. My producer group was surprised to hear about it. Until I called the bond company to confirm, I couldn't quite believe it myself."
this is absolutely the worst thing SAG could do in its negotiations with the Majors. And it flat kills the indie films. Maybe SAG could just change their name to WTF and save everyone the heartache…..
Thanks, SAG – there’s my ticket to Romania bought and paid for. You and the IA drove everyone out of LA; now you’ll drive the indies to Europe. At least they actors out of the UK are a million times better than ACTRA and UBCP!
Our project is in similar circumstances.
And everyone is wondering why is it so tough right now. There hasn’t been a mmovie made since Transformer’s 2, all other movies are slated to go late spring or summer and those are all conditioned on the shit hole of a mess being cleaned up. Why are is the inland empire empty? Because the grips, electricians, caterers, set construction, etc., are NOT FUCKING WORKING and all the ancillary businesses that they supported are gone. THIS IS A DE-FACTO STRIKE AND BOTH SAG AND THE AMPTP ARE A BUNCH OF DIP SHITS.
@ HDBS and others,
Place the blame where it belongs — on the AMPTP, for wanting AND DECLARING IN PRINT that they intend to end residuals.
I feel for you (I live in this town too), but actors standing up for their hard-earned future are not to blame.
To those of you who are angry about this situation, keep in mind that the overall SAG membership is angry about it as well. There’s no viable reason to do anything to hinder indie film production – they’re not our enemies. I can’t figure how this tactic plays into the new “leadership’s” overall plan (if you could call it that). They’re certainly not telling us anything…
This is a disastrous decision on the part of SAG. Were it not for indies, a lot of their members wouldn’t be working at all right now. Our business practices don’t affect you one iota.
If anything, this decision gives more power to the AMPTP because it undercuts any other means for actors to earn a living, making their bargaining position even weaker.
When you’re in a siege footing, SAG, the answer is not to cut off your own supply lines.
oldmantime – You’re dead on. Makes no sense since screwing independents only helps AMPTP.
It’s likely a very dumb question, but why would a strike authorization need to impact independents but instead be directly only against working on AMPTP projects?
Can anyone tell me why SAG would punish the indy film companies? I’m a strong supporter of unions in general, but this is getting ridiculous. It’s one thing to fight the AMPTP, but it’s another thing to just sit around and take such a passive role in it all. Does anyone have any idea what’s going on with SAG? Do they have any plan whatsoever? If so, we’d all love to hear it. Please just vote already on what you want to do, and let’s get on with it. SAG’s membership should demand that there is either a vote for strike authorization, or a vote on the AMPTP’s offer. No one wants a strike, but at least that would be leading to some sort of conclusion. This bullshit feels like it could go on forever.
I said it before and I’ll say it again…
If the SAG Board refuses to take any action then its up to the members to make a statement that cannot be mistaken for anything other then what it is.
Pick a date and walk out. Go on strike without the authorization. You’ve been screwed big time up to this point. What is the worst that can happen if a large number of you agree to no longer show up for work until you have a contract that meets your needs?
Thank-you Nikki, for directing attention towards this.
IT IS KILLING US!
btlteamster – are you an IDIOT??? Name some actors for me, when arranging financing, that actually have some foreign sales value and will work under an AFTRA contract?!? Yes, there might be better actors out there that aren’t SAG, but there’s virtually NO WAY to round out financing on any worthwhile project without name talent….unless you find some schmo who’ll just pony up straight equity….then you’ll find less money in the market when that film loses its investment….seriously people, get a grip on how the industry F’ing works…
cookmeyer1970 You want to know why SAG would punish the indy film companies? Because the AMPTP told them to do so. Remember it is the National Board that voted to do this.
It just goes to show you that the NEW National Board is in bed with the AMPTP. Halting every Indie Film until the AMPTP has there FORCED deal in place — you don’t want the competition (indie films) making Movies when you’re not. The studio’s already having a hard enough these days come Oscar time and with all these Indie Companies like Marvel Comics putting a dent in their weekend Box Office numbers.
Ned Vaughn has to be in bed with the AMPTP — why else would he being doing all this? I know he wants to merge with AFTRA. But in the long run it will only hurt him too. He’s not at the level of the company he keeps, he’s a Day Player Actor.
I smell a RAT!
Luzid –
The Devil-made-us-do-it argument is unacceptable. It’s been heard before. It’s counter-productive. It’s obnoxious. And it only solidifies an already frustrated community further against actors.
You want to know why you don’t have the support of the community, why everyone outside of SAG is fed up with hearing about this and won’t even listen anymore when actors point out the reasons why they don’t want to accept the contract? Because of statements like the one you made.
Wondering if the SAG office staff, while twiddling their thumbs over a lack of bookwork regarding actor’s residuals and such, will find a way to make it easier for them to misplace all of my SAG agreement paperwork and then have to start the dialog really early about the extreme lengths I will need to go through in order to get my bond back.
dear oldmantime,
no, i’m not an idiot. i’m just sick of sag not having a game plan. 2 different factions of sag have stepped up and fucked their membership over. do the fuck something…and that would be send out the sav or vote on the current offer. it’s reached a point in this industry that people are getting hurt… by the lack of work…really hurt, and sag has a hand in this. yes, the amptp are evil, but sag shares the blame, by not being focused. so, even though i stand by by post (which nikki has removed…what’s that about?), my comment comes from my lack of respect for sag leadership…not the everyday actor.
Hire the script supervisors to negotiate this contract. We are the 911 call on all sets and make everything work out in the end. Ten of us could have figured this out by now.
Tick tock. Tick tock. Sixty days pass like seconds on a clock. Tick tock. Tick tock. The AMPTP contract is what you’ve got. Tick tock. Tick tock. Will SAG let you vote? Tick tock. Tick tock. I think not. Tick tock. Tick tock.
The GCC was halted because members of the AMPTP were setting up shadow companies to take advantage of GCC’s being offered by SAG to independent films. It is AMPTP’s fault real independent films are being hurt by the halting of the GCC, not the current national board of SAG. Regardless of fault, SAG should reinstate the GCC with rules in place that investigate the origin of the production company and it’s association to the AMPTP.
This is one of a number of reasons I recently went Fi-core.
SAG, in my opinion is incompetent.
Terrence Beasor, can you please elaborate? Some of us are still confused by all of these factions. Why is their neither a strike authorization vote being sent or a vote on the contract? What are they trying to accomplish at this point? I’m not asking these things rhetorically. I really would like to understand SAG’s perspective, because at this point it seems they aren’t doing anything, have no plan, and don’t give a shit about even their own actors.
Cookmeyer1970…
Ned Vaughn and his AFTRA-aligned pals on the NY and RBD Boards have only one goal… weaken SAG so it has to merge with AFTRA on AFTRA’s terms (crappy contracts – low residuals). You’re right, they don’t care about actors… they care about their own political ‘power’ and being able to book that one line on Law and Order every couple of years so Mom still thinks they’re professional actors. Most of the anti-SAG members of the Board aren’t making their living in this business so they don’t care if the hard-fought terms of our contracts go away.
I know a lot of people aren’t too happy with MF either, but seriously, they are the lesser of two evils. Hollywood has to be back in charge of this Guild for SAG to be even remotely functional for real working performers… and the only way to achieve that is to vote in MF this fall. There’ll be a few pro-SAG folks running for the NY Board, too. Sure, we need action before September, but hell, at this point, they probably won’t even send us anything to vote on before the fall!
Mamie-
“Hire the script supervisors to negotiate this contract. We are the 911 call on all sets and make everything work out in the end. Ten of us could have figured this out by now.”
Really?? Because Script Supervisors haven’t even negotiated a rate for their own local union brothers and sisters… I don’t think ‘Script Supervisors’ could have figured this out already-
SAG Leadership has f*$% it up for sure- but don’t go getting all cocky- they are battling ‘The Alliance’, by the way.
Yes, SAG – THANK YOU! I also have a movie being held up because of your stupid waiver policy. Now, this independant movie and all the jobs that come with it are on hold, and might fall apart.
Does anyone there undrestand this? Are we supposed to just be happy to blame the producers?
charlie
All in all, this seems like a very good time to be going to film school.
SAG’s own press release says it all.
Los Angeles (January 16, 2009) — Screen Actors Guild today announced that in light of the over 800 productions signed to Guaranteed Completion Contracts, SAG’s National Board of Directors has determined that the GCCs have served their purpose and has decided to discontinue offering GCCs.
Screen Actors Guild will continue signing independent productions to the terms of the 2005 Codified Basic Agreement for Independent Producers.
It was the National Board Majority and not Doug Allen as some are claiming that felt the GCC’s had did their purpose and no longer needed to continue it. Why they think that is beyond me.
Dear 871 person,
When I look around the world I feel grateful for the money I make – Life is short – I don’t always need “more” to be happy and live life. Script Supervisors have been underpaid for decades. Sometimes it’s okay to let go and move on.
SAG’s new motto:
“It ain’t phucked up until we phuck it up.”
Alex – I think meant business school, not film school…
L.Kenny asserts, as a reason for the GCC cessation, that there were “shadow companies” being set up. Really? Like which ones? Any evidence for this, L. Kenny?
SAG has never explained why the policy changed.
I hear that there are “internal discussions” going on within SAG about reinstating the GCC so-called waivers. I hope so.
I hope this thread can stay away from random name-calling and focus attention on SAG to get them to change the current policy.
There are a lot of people who could be working, actors and others, making independent films, just trying to make a small living in hard times, but we’re not allowed to right now because of a larger struggle that we have absolutely nothing to do with.
Everytime I read something ugly with the term SAG in it, I feel like a iron stake is being driven into my chest. What is happening isn’t the doing of the 120,000 SAG members. This began with the AFTRA referendum that got passed by broadcasters not giving a chit about Actors needs. So AFTRA now promotes Non Union work. A list of High profile Actors utilized that moment to begin a strategic plan in which they got celebrity Actors to run for SAG National Board seats and any and all elected positions offered by SAG during the elections that unfortunatly fell smack dab in the middle of the negotiations. Any and all delays over the past year have been instigated by the A-List Actors and the new slim majority leadership of SAG. The slim majority is slightly over 5%. As soon as the new slim majority took charge the new National Board of Directors changed policy that allowed them to mute SAG’s President Alan Rosenberg and all elected officials and staff of the Screen Actors Guild. Then they fired SAG’s National Executive Director and Chief Negotiator Doug Allen by Writtin Assent, not even making all Natl.Board members that had a vote on the Written assent privy that the Vote to fire Doug Allen was even happening. The new leadership does what they want it seems. The members have no voice and no one at our Guild is allowed to speak to any members.
Their new task force that they replaced SAG’s trained negotiating committee, also was turned away by the AMPTP. SO now the Last Best Final Offer has been rejected twice now. Once by the new Task Force and once in a National Board meeting only weeks ago.
But the new slim Majority of the Screen Actors Guild is dragging their feet and not allowing the SAG membership their right to vote the Contract down or up.
Their plan is to let the 60 days that the AMPTP gave the task force, to lapse so the AMPTP can impose the contract on the SAG membership without a Vote. Their main agenda is to weaken or break SAG so they can merge with AFTRA. If they accomplish not letting the SAG membership Vote on the contract and the AMPTP gets too impose the LBFO. It will be the same template that AFTRA approved. No residuals and Non Union work. IATSE also relies on residuals and they were sent ballots to vote but no memoradum to read on what the were voting for or against. I do hope that IATSE and SAG will come together. A coalition. If SAG falls, what union will be next? But please, it is not the SAG membership that has caused this. We are not happy either. We have no voice and Our Guild refuses to communicate and or send us the contract to Vote on it. Our hands are tied! I personally, am one of Scott Wilson’s Posse that has been joining him with signs in hands demonstrating in front of the Screen Actors Guilds headquarters. We are organizing rallies,all that we can do with out any Guild to help us do it. The media is no help, they are they conglomerates that have been spinning they stories making SAG look like the bad guy’s. When the AMPTP could of stopped any of this work stoppage. Were locked out without a key. I hope that this post will help some understand things a bit more. The SAG membership is pissed off too! If your really Pissed off come out to the rally at CBS studios at Beverly & Fairfax. There is parking in the Farmers Market at the Grove.
I have one question?
There are 70,000 SAG members in the HollywoodLos Angeles area.
Where the hell are you?
I understand everyone can’t make it, but damn!
You SAG members must not realize, this is sink or swim.
If this LBFO gets impossed on us without a Vote. The buisness of Acting will be no more. There will be no way that an individual will be able to make a comfortable living as it was in the past. No residuals means no Pension & health.
IASTE I wish you well… I understand your leaders are trying to railroad things past you too. All the more reason for us to join forces.
Solidarity Works
The actions by the SAG board are dispicable and confounding but the “why” might not be so hard to figure out when you look at who’s responsible for the decision. The new majority (c&*ksuckers) and their actions since they gained control of the union have clearly been meant to weaken SAG and force an AFTRA merger. As of now, AFTRA has no jurisdiction in film to speak of but if SAG’s ability to provide working agreements were damaged/impeded along with SAG’s reputation in the indie community, that would open a pretty wide door for AFTRA to gain ground in film like they’ve been doing in TV. SAG’s loss is AFTRA’s gain and what’s good for AFTRA is good for the “new majority” I may be wrong here, but the scenario is definitely not out of character for these weasels.
@ no one:
I’m sorry you think the truth is obnoxious.
@ Luzid
You may not like what “no one” said…but he’s right. And this is the tip of the iceberg…i’ve been following the union affiliations of pilots…the studios are pushing VERY HARD for there to be, as one BA staffer said to me, “no more SAG in television”. Within two years SAG’s footprint in TV will be less than half of what it was two years ago. Or less.
Everyone is arguing about the internet, but where the hell has SAG been on the transition to digital photography? How could they let this happen with no discernible effort made to keep significant jurisdiction in a field where real money is still being made? SAG’s incompetence in this negotiating period has been AFTRA and the AMPTP’s gain.
Could AFTRA use this as a way into features? Wouldn’t be easy but there would be HUGE support from both the studios and the indies. And where would we be? The gang who couldn’t shoot straight. the gang who is still trying to get one deal after 10 months of bull****.
According to SAG I was the VERY FIRST producer to request a Guaranteed Completion Agreement (as they were then being called) when they were announced, and that was what, over a year ago? The big question is WHY the f*ck are they still NECESSARY in the first place? This business – at least as we’ve come to know it – is no more, I’m afraid.
EarlyAdopter – you are more right than you know. Just like the Evil Empire (Soviet) died when Hitler invaded, but didn’t know it; (it thought it had won the war, and took decades to finally wither away only because of its sheer size)… so will this business. It will come around the ears of those that “own” it today, because the “little people” no longer need their money, their distribution or their Bad Product. After “Slumdog” the next Oscar winner will have been shot on a cell phone for 3 bucks and watched on computers worldwide (I’m exggerating of course but you are catching my drift there, yes?).
And why not? The writing is on the wall, people. Between WGA and SAG the business has been in the funk since late 2007, or much earlier if you count the foreign outsourcing. Now what: you all think that people who make the movies, all the crafts that make it happen, are in hibernation while you fight this pointless battle, will then promptly wake up, dig themselves out, dust themselves off and happily march onto your sets, grateful, thankful and loving? Newsflash: most of us – the ones with brains and knowhow anyway, are already looking elsewhere to make a living. Those that are not, well, I hate to put it this way but you probably wouldn’t want to hire them…
Best of luck, Mr. Big Shot Producer (Not you, Early – the folk in Black Tower and such) pretty soon it will be you, some unskilled labor and digital acting robots – and yes, an awards show nobody will watch…because as an industry, you ran out of ideas a long time ago; now you are withering away, like the Soviets, but probably don’t even know it…