EXCLUSIVE: I've learned that, for the past two weeks, meetings between partners of William Morris and Endeavor agencies have been fraught with tension. The reluctance now to merge isn't on the WMA side because Jim Wiatt and Dave Wirtschafter are known to be eager for this deal to happen. Rather, it's from Endeavor's side because there are fears there's too much risk and not enough upside. On Thursday, which has been the day both sides have met for weeks now, all the designated partners will confab about the deal's economics and then decide what the next step is. That's when the two agencies will either agree to continue negotiating this merger or not. "Thursday is a big day," a source tells me.
Adding to the problem is that WMA has been obstinate when it comes to the two agencies' discussions about who should stay and who should go if the two tenpercenteries merge. Emanuel, for instance, has been screaming at Wiatt, and battles have broken out among some of their subordinates. "Wiatt is trying to sell the group on his judgment and his leadership to save his people," one insider tells me. "Because Jim knows this deal will dismantle his company. So when Ari pushes Jim's buttons, Wiatt panics and goes on the defensive. "
My insiders at WMA acknowledge, "Dave and Jim have failed as leaders. Yet they want the last hurrah and to let people think they're in control. But they've got to let Ari lead and get out of his way."
The rumors of a William Morris-Endeavor merger had been around for months and months, and I know some phone calls were exchanged after the end of the writers strike a year ago. But the reality is that these deals aren't done overnight: like everything in Hollywood that involves ego and money, they're complicated because they combine different agency cultures as well as partners and personnel. (Who else remembers back to 1992 when William Morris acquired Triad? The two agencies had been talking for 17 months; and, even when those chats became very serious, the deal points took five months. And let's not forget the back story behind the ICM-Broder merger.)
But I was the first to report that talks had heated up between upstart Endeavor and venerable William Morris to the point where I was being told by mid-February the odds were "70/30" that the two agencies would do a deal. Endeavor's Ari Emanuel has been on the prowl: he even had several meals with ICM's investor Rizvi Traverse that didn't go anywhere. But Endeavor-WMA looked to be a great fit: William Morris with a powerhouse music division but also a motion picture talent department needing more marquee names and a flagging television department except for unscripted fare. Endeavor, on the other hand, has been signing marquee names and packaging primetime series galore and would love that music money. One agency is strong where the other is weak. But the problem is what it's always been: the alpha male owners of major agencies always want to be in charge: Ari Emanuel to run the combined agency as long as Jim Wiatt gets a fancy title and an uber-lucrative contract. Besides, if Wiatt doesn't make this move now, then WMA will turn into a music agency and he could get sidelined.
One of the first hurdles to overcome was the tax consequences of any deal. It all had to do with "LLC" and "S" corporations, which could have meant writing checks in the millions of dollars to the U.S. government. Also, I found out there was at one point a 3rd company involved as an investor and partner. Then I reported on March 13th that the tax issues had been resolved.
That the deal was proceeding became clearer when I reported that founding partners at Endeavor had been phoning clients to make sure they'd signed their agency contracts. One screenwriter who had been there awhile was surprised that, 2 hours after a partner called, the contract was messengered to the scripter's office. Then again, that happened right before Broder merged with ICM. And also a few years ago when WMA was in the final stages to merge with United Talent in a deal that never closed.
Both sides now realize that any newly merged company has to consist of only 150 core movie/tv agents at most. The mantra of these negotiations is "make it smaller". That means, of WMA's 150 agents, and Endeavor's 100 agents, about 100 from the combined total will have to be let go. And since CAA's Richard Lovett has pursued a policy of 100% marketshare when it comes to clients, the new WMA-Endeavor is making as its goal to rep only the elite Top 2%.
The prospect of inevitable consolidation has led to both agencies finding themselves Rumor Central and denying that wholesale layoffs have started when they haven't. There are persistent whispers of a pre-merger shakeup at WMA involving motion picture talent department head Gaby Morgerman. (I've been receiving nonstop complaints about Morgerman from inside WMA for almost a year now.) "It's one of many conversations about examining our talent department and how to make it work more efficiently. Some of these conversations have included Gaby, yes. We have to make things better," a WMA insider told me.
Endeavor partner Patrick Whitesell especially has expressed frustration with WMA's attempt "to pump its chest like crazy" over its talent department even though Hollywood knows it's been weakened by agent layoffs and client defections. At one recent meeting, WMA agents were boasting about having just signed Sex And The City's Kristin Davis. The Endeavor agents were seen rolling their eyes, and Ari and Patrick were overheard saying quietly to the other, "Didn't we fire her?"
I also hear that the Endeavor side has not tried to hide that its TV agents think WMA's Aaron Kaplan should be "on top of the list" of people let go as soon as a deal is consummated. Hollywood is well aware that, under Kaplan, the Morris TV department has plummeted in prestige and power and packages, whereas Endeavor is a juggernaut these days. But Wiatt is Kaplan's mentor, and Jim has been trying to wheedle, and even beg, Endeavor to keep Aaron on board. It's such a non-starter that even Kaplan knows the ax is about to fall and called up United Talent.
It's weird, too, that Endeavor has signed two William Morris clients in a row recently (Sean Hayes and Rain Wilson). Usually, when there's a deal in the works, the two agencies agree not to poach. Then again, I'm told that Jim Wiatt told a WMA staff meeting on March 11th that any merger deal wasn't happening right away and the tenpercentery should stay focused on its clients.
After another particularly ugly meeting took place recently between the two agencies, a depressed Emanuel started using the phrase, "We all need a bigger boat."
Repeated battles even have broken out over what to call the new agency. WMA keeps fighting tooth and nail to keep its name atop the merged company, citing its long-standing brand. Endeavor is arguing that brand is moldy oldie. "Morris is trying to hold onto anything to keep their respect and pride," one source tells me.
There's no question right now that Endeavor is in the driver's seat with regard to this deal. "If they decide to walk away, they know William Morris is going to chase them and acquiesce to some of the areas that are in conflict because Morris wants it so badly." I'll let you know as soon as I know the next move in this negotiation.
- Endeavor Finds Itself Rumor Central
- Will It Be WME Or EWM Or Neither?
- Endeavor/WMA Merger News Of The Day
- Endeavor Signs Sean Hayes From WMA; Morris Hires Janklow-Nesbit Book Agent
- Look Who's Following An Agency Merger
- Endeavor And WMA Meeting Over Merger
- UPDATE: That WMA/Endeavor Merger
- Shakeup Coming Inside WMA Talent Dept
- IT'S FOR REAL: Endeavor And William Morris Talking About Teaming Up
- What's Really Happening Inside Morris?
- William Morris Agency Expands Board To Include More Music
Seems like SAG and WMA share the same PR genius.
I would hope John Fogelman, Gaby Morgerman, Irv Weintraub and Jennifer Rudolph Walsh are also on the list of those to get the boot, awful people. If Jim and Dave weren’t so vile to people, I would feel sorry for them, this is such a flacid move for them, they have no leverage and no strength.
AARON KAPLAN SUCKS. HORRIBLE. THINKS HE’S THE STAR. NO ONE CAN STAND HIM, AND IF UTA TAKES HIM THEY WILL BE SORRY. HORRIBLY SORRY!
That leaves 100 agents out on the street. Maybe 20 will join new agencies; 80 will leave the business.
I certainly have my top 10 list for whom no tears shall be shed as the door slams on them.
“Wiatt is trying to sell the group on his leadership…”
“Dave and Jim have failed as leaders…”
1. Wiatt does not have any leadership (nor scruples).
2. Dave and Wiatt have failed as leaders.
3. The words Wiatt, Wirtschafter and leaders should never be used in the same sentance, paragraph, document or thesis.
4. The 8 founders are turning over in their grave.
5. What does Norman (who has been bamboozled by Jim, Dave and Irv think?
6. Let’s hope Irv is the third to go…he’s a backstabbing unloyal accountant. And not a very good one at that.
7. See ya Smoller, Button, Cooper, Slater, Morgerman, Kaplan, Ferriter, etc. in the unemployment line. Good luck gettin a gig – you’ll all need it. Given the fact that you lack any skills, and are disliked unanimously in the industry, you’ll certainly need it.
former jwasst1@wma.com
I personally hope that Craig Kestel stays in the merged company. That guy is management material. With his abuse to assistants and his unemployed clients he would be a Beacon for the new Morris Endeavor agency!
i think kaplan is talking to paradigm . they could use him.
Aaron Kaplan has always made me lots of money – That’s all I care about!
100 agents let go? That sounds like a lot. Will they also be shedding a lot of business to focus only on top 2%? Sounds risky.
WillEavor!
I worked for a “yeller screamer” in the tv lit department at WMA as an assistant 11 years ago. Of all the people I worked with there, Aaron Kaplan was always nice to me as an assistant.
I’ve never had any dealings with him since, but I always remembered taht he was kind when he didn’t need to be.
Hey Nikki – When you do start your new job at endeavor?
We know agents will be trimmed. What about clients? What percentage of clients will be given the adios?
“That leaves 100 agents out on the street. Maybe 20 will join new agencies; 80 will leave the business.” Comment by G A
You are forgetting the many, many new boutique agencies & management/production companies that will be started by the, let’s call them “leavers”.
A few will team up but many will go solo.
Then after starving and spending all their money with no cash flow as a start up business 50 percent of those “leavers” will abandon the business after the first year or so of their new “Endeavor”.
Success will depend on how many working actors/writers you represent will go with you to your start-up vs. them seeing themselves as the elite 2% “WMAE” is intent on keeping.
Great work boys…infighting amongst management and bitching about each other’s agents. Ahem…doesn’t promise to be a happy transition.
For us in the peanut gallery, let’s hope this goes through…agency side has been boring for years…a merger between those two asshole brigades will keep us entertained for months (nay, years) to come.
Endeavor in the driver seat? More like back seat driver. Everyone knows who holds the purse strings in this situation.
Look at Ari’s left hand fingers in picture. His fingers look like the penis he is. Amazing.
Kaplan is a damn fine agent (and good looking too)! Every agency on Wilshire would hire him. I call bullshit on this and bet one of the agency competitors is spreading this garbage.
Everybody here is talking a good and tough game and everybody here is anonymous. Including me. None of us have the guts to stand up and be accountable for what we say. And that is a shame – because nothing we say means anything.
There are many assistants writing here that were mistreated. There are people who didn’t get jobs with WMA writing here. Everybody has an agenda.
I happen to think Kaplan is a first rate agent. he has made extraordinary deals for people like Kiefer Sutherland, Rod Lurie, and Carlton Cuse. He is a cool thinker.
As for Wiatt and the others at WMA? Well, I have nothing god to say – but because I am using just my ffirst name I’ll shut up.
100 fewer parasitic agents in Hollywood — at least it’s a start.
Wait, is Ari the femme little ballerina with the cut off finger or is Rahm the loud mouth schmuck that likes to crap on assistant’s desks? i just can’t keep those two straight. One thing is clear though, their parents must have been assholes because they are both pieces of shit. with any luck they’ll both be out of work very soon. parasites!
aaron is a nice guy. people in wma tv are all reasonably nice.
“Kaplan is a damn fine agent (and good looking too)! Every agency on Wilshire would hire him. I call bullshit on this and bet one of the agency competitors is spreading this garbage.”
Hi Aaron! How’s it going?
If this merger goes through WMA will have won the lotto. They have been around over 100 years, but know they are on their last legs here. They need this infusion of Endeavor blood and without it they could become a thing of the past.
When Endeavor looks at WMA’s books and sees what agents actually bring in from their clients compared to what agents are getting paid the list will be long and deep at WMA of who should be on the chopping block. For starters Jill Smoller, Phillip Button, Brad Slater, Gaby Morgerman, Danny Greenberg, Cliff Roberts and the list goes on and on. However, the most worthless and highest paid employees are Jim Wiatt and John Fogelman. I think John and Jim know this is WMA’s saving grace and if it doesn’t happen they are on the outs. Now guys like Kaplan and Ferriter work hard and actually make the company money so one should think before letting them go. However, both make decent seven figure salaries so that is an issue to discuss.
Ari – please treat this as one of the most important decisions of your professional life. You have built up Endeavor into a powerhouse and relatively quickly. Merging with WMA could be a good thing if done right and it’s well thought out. However, this could be one of the worst mistakes in history too and be written about in the next Mailroom book. Maybe the better plan would be to raid whatever clients WMA has that are worth going after and then you won’t have to pay any extra agents high salaries and you won’t have to deal with Jim Wiatt sinking the ship you built.
Why doesn’t anyone talk about Cliff Roberts and Danny Greenberg. Those goons are a joke. They hang out in each others office and walk around the hallways thinking they are so busy. The reality is they spend half the day in agents offices like Aaron Kaplan’s playing video games. Now tell me, how well does that service their clients as well as the agency????
Ari and his boys are feeling the pain of facing the long hard road of operating with Dave and Jim. Agents, in general, are poor managers, and often poor leaders. When they are bad agents on top of it, well, that’s a recipe for disaster. Jim and Dave are all 3 and Ari knows it. If he wasn’t sure early on, he is now, after negotiating with those guys and hearing their ‘ideas.’ Jim likes to boast how he has run 2 companies, and how his judgement should be appreciated. What a joke. William Morris has no choice and should get in line quick. This is their last chance and Endeavor will have many more opportunities and avenues in which to confront this very challenging time for the agency business. Guys like Kaplan, and you know who you are, should make plans. It’s gotta and gonna happen. The economics are prohibitive and the dead weight at both companies must be cut loose. Time to think it over if you are Endeavor and it’s time to stop bullshitting yourselves if you are WMA, and realize how fortunate you are to have this opportunity. UTA or Paradigm will be buying guys like Kaplan at bargain basement prices if they wait, unfortunately, they will be almost worthless. Now is when these guys need to create some job security somewhere. While there is still the shadow of a TV business and while they have a few clients that we’ve heard of. I’m sure WMA clients are not planning on staying around if there is no merger.
1. Jim Wiatt and Dave Wirtschafter have failed. Their failures fall into the categories of leadership, earning, understanding the business and leaving their own self interest behind.
2. Excuse me, Jim and Dave’s self interest should be counted in the success category. How then would we enjoy the company of such successful agents as Michael Cooper, Esther Chang, Brad Slater (THE LUCKIEST MAN ON PLANET EARTH) Kim Bialek (Who?), Sara Newkirk (why?) Sam Kirby (Really?) and Nicole David (How can this be?)and not to mention Jill Smoller (yikes!)?
3. I’m hearing John Fogleman is looking for employment OUTSIDE THE BUSINESS. Which is rather fitting since the man has not been in the business since Norman Brokaw and the board fired Arnold Rifkin. I digress, but I have to think Arnold Rifkin is doing a lot of chuckling these days.
John Fogelman has the dubious distinction of driving away the most female (successful) agents from the agency. Then puts in his own personal geisha to do his bidding. And, I am not referring to Gaby Morgerman. That lady is nobody’s bitch. I know she’s hated, but no one fights harder for her remaining client list.
4. Irv Weintraub is an accountant who made good. Don’t hate. He’s had a good run. Let him roll quietly into the sunset.
5. As much as I think that Ferriter only signs who he dates, he is not going anywhere. And neither is ANYONE in that crazy dsyfunction that WMA lovingly ($$$$$$$) calls the reality unscripted department.
6. And will the people with all the Craig Kestel hate stop, already? Please just bring him up in relevant stories. It’s a little transparent that you have a personal ax to grind.
Good luck to both WMA and Endeavor. Seems like it won’t work. And good luck to those 100 agents. For your sake, I hope it dosen’t happen. And, unfortunately, you know who you are.
To the citizens and visitors of Beverly Hills, take caution while on the street.
bunch of emotional wailing baby boys
they’re nuts if they change the morris name — the only reason would be irrational hubris under the guise of being current
Nikki,
I doubt anyone will read this as it’s already going to be way down on the comments list. I hope you do.
I love your blog, but I gotta say ENOUGH. You can report the news and even the rumors without going out of your way to hurt people and their careers. Imagine how Kristen Davis would feel after reading that she’s the brunt of a joke in a negotiation. Who out there really cares or needs to be aware that Aaron Kaplan is meeting at another agency? You’re screwing with these people’s careers, their livelihood, their reputations.
Aaron may have pissed in your cornflakes, but the guy deserves to make a living and support his family. Kristen may have made choices you disagree with, but she deserves to be represented without having people point out that her current agency is getting another agencey’s leftovers. Seriously, Nikki, you can do your job without being Hollywood’s MEAN GIRL. We love your blog because you BREAK news. Not because of the snarky, angry, damaging things you say about people.
In the old days ,they’d allude to someone without naming names. there was a dignity there. Think twice before you out someone for looking for a job or for getting fired. It’s not news. It’s just high school. And, it’s the lowest road you can take.
Your fan, but getting weary of the anger and venom.
Hey Corporate Sell-Outs,
Seeing that package fees continue to decline and first dollar gross participants will soon become extinct, Endeavor, you should probably shut your mouth, stop planting stories and keep your hands extended while the offer is still out. Glad to see Jimmy Wiatt come to the rescue after you had the grandiose idea of starting a “boutique agency.” Look whose going corporate now after seeing what it takes to play in the big leagues.
Best,
Toldja!
Agents don’t “fire” actors.
Agents work FOR actors.
Actors HIRE agents to represent them.
Agents would be nothing without clients.
Agents need actors.
Actors are still actors even without an agent.
Actors need a script and an audience.
Who has the power?
Actors.
Too bad most people in this town have it backwards.
Aaron Kaplan is a very very good agent
putting it into perspective, I came to WMA as an INDEPENDENT FILM director with a decent award winning film. I didn’t work the studio system or hang out with actors/directors with any value in hollywood.
I’ve gotten decent-less than decent screenplay deals through my agent, one film greenlit and post by a studio that will hit theatres later next year.
The one thing that literally pays the mortgage and comes out ahead of my expectations is Kaplan’s ability to take a simple logline of mine and get it sold to TV. I’ve had two instances where I didn’t even take a single meeting with anyone from a network and my treatment has been sold for more than any screenplay that I put blood sweat and tears into.
And maybe I’d just say that I’m lucky or not, but for now Kaplan gets me and other of my friends who are repped by WMA money. I don’t really get why he wouldn’t be part of the formula. I’ve been gunho for a merger until you mentioned that he might be leaving.
But then again you told me to sell all of my netflix stock the day before the company skyrocketed. So who knows what you’re trying to spin.
Great reporting no matter the source.
Should the merger go through Wiatt will be gone in six months. Wirtschafter will go first.
No matter what Endeavor says or tells anybody or any press outlet if or when a deal goes down.
The second and third tier agents at Endeavor are no different than 99% of the agents at Morris. Morris just has a lot more of everything which has always been their perennial problem. (I’m being redundant because it literally is, as a staffing problem, and more. Too much volume not enough depth or clarity.)
Emanuel will enjoy some loyalty from what’s left of his team. The Morris agents that remain will probably be resentful, permanently startled, unmanageable.
I say the source for this post is not a competitor – I’m going out on a limb here Nikki. I think it’s Endeavor, at Emanuel’s behest, to force the deal his way on Thursday. Or SOMEONE at Emanuel’s behest. The recent NY Times piece is emboldening him.
I’ve been around for one of these mergers. The decisions about firing are first a grudge thing; and then when push comes to shove become unbelievably arbitrary – Chaos Theory acting out.
The winners here – CAA, ICM, Paradigm, Gersh and similar agencies. UTA maybe not. Morris’ “full service” philosophy will disappear and other agencies will pick up the slack.
Dealing with the SIZE of Morris’ NY office will be a major issue on the one hand. On the other hand Endeavor’s NY office is a vanity operation, and save a couple of clients that are probably controlled by L.A. and/or their managers (Gavin Polone; 3 Arts, etc.,) just never got up to speed.
Morris should probably just demote Wiatt (if that’s possible;) streamline; and attempt to maintain that core philosophy which, ironically, may be particularly applicable to the new media realities.
But, again, Morris has got a lot of great clients; has a lot of possibilities to transfer music booking into more and more manageable so-called “360″ deals, etc.
Some clients love the stereotypically aggressive, loud and obnoxious, “agent-as-protection/bodyguard” thing. Obviously Sascha Baron Cohen and Larry David and Mark Wahlberg do. But sooner or later these people will ask themselves – do I really want a caricature running my career? In terms of his list – “caricature is as caricature does-” it kind of applies don’t you think?
A caricature with a big mouth and a lot of hubris and gall. That’s all he is. A rude head case image mongering. A business “party animal.” So not applicable to today’s business climate.
Whitesell’s got a nice list but it’s stalled. Adam Venit’s a good guy and his clients are loyal to him. Brian Swardson is an excellent character actors’ agent but Morris has plenty of those.
CAA and UTA, pound for pound, in every way, have better comedy and filmmakers.
Frankly there’s more in this for Endeavor than Morris. They get Morris’ news division; live acts; books; etc. As well as a wealth of heirloom checks spanning a century.
I guess they’ll get Morris’ new “green” HQ; in turn maybe Rahm-a-lama-ding-dong can earmark some “stimulus” money to help seal the deal Ari’s way.
Did you see the pictures of R.E. thumbing his nose and sticking out his tongue on Inauguration Day? I was appalled. That’s the President’s Chief of Staff people.
I’m a registered Democrat.
In the final analysis, unfortunately, it does not speak well of Wiatt’s management skills that the great and venerable William Morris Agency might wind up on the losing end of a merger and Emanuel will get to crow as natural-progression-logical-successor about his self-inventing dominion over such a legacy.
I gotta think that any William Morris graduate, no matter where they are today, will consider it a very sad day that this douchebag might prevail upon or control even the last complete wheel of the Golden Age of Hollywood only to effectively dismantle it to make it in his own dismaying sensibilities.
As parallel conceptual example – to the “agency” world – like when Kerkorian bought MGM (I think it was the first time) and sold off the contents, and therefore the history, of the entire lot.
Having been inside both agencies, it is shocking the disparity between the two places. Endeavor, although a serious boys club, is forward thinking and aggressively interested in building talent. William Morris is haunted by an uncomfortable mixture of the airheads (Esther Chang, Sally Newkirk), the cementheads (Wiatt, Kaplan, Wirtschafter) and the completely pathological loons (Suzy Unger, anyone??)
Morris departments likely to be intact are music (steady cash), reality (steady deals), endorsement and consulting (Endeavor doesn’t have a presence), theater in NY, PA in NY, Latin branch (Mateu signing clients), China branch (money hole but Endeavor doesn’t have a presence – Caa does). Others are in some degrees of danger.
Kaplan is disrespected and hated by producers and writers alike. Everyone knows he’d sell his own mother to make 50 cents. If Paradigm takes him it will diminish what little credibility they have… He has ruined many lives and deserves to lose everything he has gotten at everyone else’s expense.
Irv weintraub makes a nice sandwich -ask him to make you one. Damm you rain and sean for messing this all up!
Nikki is totally in Ari’s pocket… Look at the collection of blogs. You can’t tell me that objective.
“He’d sell his own mother to make 50 cents”
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ari, nice work, you missed your calling. You and your brother should have opened a PR firm.
Finally some reporting… where have you been Nikki Finke? Bogged down in gossip, Twitter and toldja BS. Welcome back.
Does this remind anyoneof AOL/Time Warner on a smaller scale. Gonna be a mess.
it is common knowledge that agencies make most of their money off television packaging and obviously that revenue source is diminishing quickly… that is why this merger is really being considered. will be interesting if it really happens, wonder who will be next?
Endeavor is one good MP Lit dept. away from being able to compete with CAA. Ari knows it, and this is his chance to finally wrest control of it from Tom Strickler and put it in Robert Newman’s hands. Strickler surrounds himself with weak and non threatening people. Not one of them have the capacity to sign an A-list client (A Ridley, A Ron H., etc.) and the dept blatantly suffers for it. The real people running Endeavor have been trying to get Strickler out for years.
Its obvious the TV packaging dept (and ARI) are threatened by Kaplan…
im just curious… do those endeavor checks come on the 1st and the 15th? or just lump sum payments?
OR… Did Ari promise you a role on Entourage?
Enough with the Kaplan hating. This guy could get Charlie Manson an overall. Having worked at both places, there are a handful of good agents at both places and the rest are posers. On the TV side, WMA has Kaplan, Wellins, Rautbort and Endeavor has Ari G, Richie, Hodes, Solo, Harrison ,Haas and Corman. MP-WMA has Cliff Roberts, Gorin, Ramses and Mike and David Lubliner, Endeavor has Raskin, Spitz and Adriana. Plus let’s not forget Whitesell and Venit. If I were Jim and Ari, I would focus on figuring their shit out before these agents realize that they are going to be financing Jim and Ari’s dream for years to come and decide it’s time to start a new version of Endeavor.
It’s stories like this that make me thankful the omnipotent Peter Bart has not succeeded in his endeavor to destroy Nikki. *chortle*
LOL, I’m gonna get Carpal Tunnel from hitting “refresh” on the comments section all day. You ten-percentery exiles, prisoners, and masochists provide so much Grand Guignol theatre, I’m thoroughly fascinated and entertained.
The whole thing is very sad. Personally, I hope this falls apart. Roughly 100 agents, most making six figures, all with no discernible skill set, being released simultaneously into the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.
Will not be a good period in the history of this business.
AGENCIES WILL SOON BE OBSOLETE.
WITHIN FIVE YEARS THERE WILL BE NONE LEFT.
THIS OLD STYLE OF DEAL MAKING WITH PROFESSIONAL SCHMOOZERS AND LIARS WILL FAIL TO KEEP PACE WITH MODERN TIMES.
Let’s be honest former client, the guy is there to SELL. I don’t care what type of person he is. He sells stories. I don’t get what you’re complaining about with ruining lives.
The meatheads of WMA probably have jobs because Kaplan pulls the weight for them.
There’s an entire department that I have no clue what they do for a living aside from hanging out with their clients : Trawick (a TALENT AGENT who spends every minute with britney spears) , Chang,Rab, Unger, Zien, and that bubbly Indian girl who I don’t see around anymore.
I love the Kristin Davis put-down. These are the same guys who ’stole’ Sean Hayes from WMA last month. How can one not see the humor in this?
At WMA it was Adam Sher who dated everyone he represented….Yes, Suzy Unger should def. go…John Ferriter is a great agent and as much as people hate ‘unscripted television’ he’s brought in untold millions as he’s made that department the most profitable one in the agency.
It is hysterical how utterly hated agents are. I have never seen so much hate in the comments of a post, Nikki, not even over politics.
I recently had my first set of meetings with agents at Endeavor and walked away from the experience feeling dirty on the inside.
I always thought it was cliche, but these people really are the bottom of the bucket.
This has never sufficiently been explained to me- Why do we let them have the run of the place? And with the new media paradigm shift, can’t we just let them be outmoded?
Perhaps I am missing something here: If everyone can’t stand CAA and the Old-Boys Network, and the fact that the Agents only care about name-dropping Cruise, Clooney, Spielberg, Pitt, Roberts, Hanks, Streep, Aniston, etc…. why do we continue hearing that this (alleged) merger between Endeavor and WMA will make “a RUN at CAA”? Why make a RUN at them if all their clients are supposedly leaving them? What golden precedent do they set? If Lourd, Huvane, DOC, Lovett, et al, are so busy Net-Jetting everywhere, hanging with the top 8 clients listed above, and not paying attention to grow younger / nascent talent – then WHO CARES? Let CAA be CAA. Let ICM be ICM. The greatest compliment coming from emerging writers, actors, directors is that the Agents at Endeavor and UTA will nurture them, grow them, and help build their careers. You think CAA and ICM and WMA have been doing that? All I hear is that if you are not one of the top 8 clients listed above, you can’t get CAA to bill you….more B and C level talent is leaving…so I ask: WHY MERGE?
…just a thought…
Competition is Capitalism, and visa versa
This is fascinating. Well, the comments of the objective and well informed people are at least.
I haven’t been working at WMA for long but I love it here.
If they “fired” Kristen Davis, they’re pretty silly. She has an assured paycheck for the next STC movie, which is more than you can say for 95% of the actors out there.
Reading these comments is a lot like sitting in traffic surrounded by a bunch of people with tinted windows aggressively beeping their horns . 95% of them would Clearly many of you feel wronged and victimized — poor, poor you. I dare say you’d feel much better about yourselves if you’d done the right thing at the time of the incident. Get some guts people. Leave the name calling to politicians.
With all Aaron’s talk of trying to make money off of ringtones and jetting off to NY to represent the M&Ms account or whatever it is he does, it’s a wonder he can service the writers and directors that were once his core business!
i dont usually comment on these boards because they are filled with bitter people, but anyone who is ragging on cliff roberts is a fool. Just look at his client roster. He has an oscar winner, and i’d say at least 3 million dollar clients. Heck, did anyone see the cover of the Sunday Times style section? Lorene Scafaria, Dana Fox and Liz Meriwether are all his clients. He’s doing just fine, and if WMA/Endeavor stupidly cuts him loose I’m sure he’ll do just fine at CAA.
And no this is not cliff. he’s busy getting his clients jobs.
First off, this should be called “HollywoodBileDaily.” Second, this merger makes more and more sense for both entities. It’s a tough world out there – trust me, I know coming out of this recent pilot season. More and more ‘peripheral’ bizness like music and PA are making $ while ‘traditional’ bizness is stalling or tanking (we can thank that other disgusting 3-letter word SAG for helping on that front…). The most interesting part might be ‘what happens to the 100 agents who lose their jobs?’ Does another Endeavor-like entity rise from the ashes? Does Para, Gersh, Innov or APA beef up with the residue? And of course, if they DO bring in these (costly) agents, do clients go along? What client would leave the WMA-End. combine to go elsewhere? (at least at first) Or do yet more managers spring from the wreckage? And is that even a viable bizness anymore? Perhaps moreso than agencies as they keep their overhead lower and frankly are more nimble.
To “NikkiSeriouslyEnough” -
Whom have you trashed talked today? It’s equally heinous even if not blogged about.
Maybe people will learn to be respectful of each other even behind closed doors and off the record. The agents don’t seem to have respect for their own colleague, or client, trying to make a living. The trash talking that goes on in the biz is horrid. People need to treat each other the way they wish to be treated, even when no one is looking or blogging. All the one-way streets in Beverly Hills are not a metaphor. And if you don’t, well it just might get blogged about.
Any thoughts, comments, criticisms, complaints from people who have actual experience with some of the younger MP Lit Department at Endeavor?
Talked with a few of them and they were nice, just looking for some first-hand experience….
So which agency now gets to be included in the “Big 5″ once the merger happens?
Kaplan’s a hack. Not an impressive list. Never understood how he became favored over Sam Haskell and Lanny Novek, who were/are class acts. He’s alienated other agents over at WMA tv dept– look how many have left to become managers.
If the merger happens, the Endeavor guys would be smart to keep Cori Wellens and Lanny Novek who both have good, high-quality lists and whose clients love them to pieces. Rathbort is also a good agent, who came over there after the ICM/Broder merger. But odds are that Kaplan will survive, and so maybe Cory, Lanny, and Allan can all go to UTA which is a classy place with classy agents.
If any of the WMA or Endeavor clients wanted to be at CAA, we would have gone to CAA, where everyone falls between the cracks. As for upside to Endeavor — hello, isn’t it obvious? The place is hemorraging money!
tyroscribe,
the younger lit agents at Endeavor are all great and helpful. David Karp, Lis Rowinski, Phil D’amecourt, Rich Cook . . . all very good people.
Look forward to buying hot dogs from Fogelman on Robertson across from the Ivy.
>Tyroscribe.
I’m a young director at Endeavor, I left CAA for them. I have been very happy with them, but it’s the young agents or the less famous ones who do all the work. Spitz, Strickler, Ari, they will be at the signing meeting telling you how they’ll be on your team and unless you win an Oscar, that’s the last you see of them.
It doesn’t matter though because they have a lot of strong agents who really do the ground work. I’m afraid the merger will result in these agents getting fired and I have to say, the minute this happens I’m back at CAA. If WMA/END becomes an agency who only has lazy “star agents”, then it will be just like CAA except with fewer A-list clients.
I talked to several of my writer/ director/showrunner friends, all Endeavor clients who feel exactly the same. If the hardworking agents go, we go.
Dear W.M.A., I Quit!
(With thanks to Jake DeSantis)
DEAR Mr. Wiatt,
It is with deep regret that I submit my notice of resignation from the William Morris Agency. I hope you take the time to read this entire letter, but given your ADHD (*wink*)and inability to focus on anything other than your bank account, your tan, or Michael Cooper’s impressions, I doubt that will be possible. Before describing the details of my decision, I want to offer some context:
I am proud of everything I have done for this agency, from my perserverence through the mailroom, delivering god knows what in unmarked bags to agents who only grunted or screamed as I shuffled the halls; to my first desk — for a sociopath whose personality was a crime against humanity and whose sexual predelictions were a crime against nature — to finally being promoted to agent (woohoo). I was in no way involved in — or responsible for — the decline in leadership, revenue or morale since you and your butt posse took over ten years ago. Nor were the majority of current employees of WMA, who just wanted to do good work and be led. Unlike AIG, most of those responsible are still with the company and are quickly distancing themselves from you, Dave Wirtshafter and Irv “In Me Belly” Weintraub as you take the brunt of the karma-is-a-bitch scorn for what you have wrought upon this once proud company.
After nearly 10 years of cronyism, laziness, bullying, self-aggrandizement and bad business practices — during which time you continued to tout your trips to the Allen & Co. conference, your quasi-famous Hollywood friends, and how you were a private plane “whore” (which you would say publicly without a tinge of self consciousness or embarassment) — we in the rank-and-file have been betrayed by WMA and are now being subjected to a potential merger through which we most likely will be out of jobs, but you will still be counting your cash and loofaing Les Moonves’ ass. In response to this and probably unnoticed by you, I will now leave the company and donate my entire time to A) finding a new job; and B) making sure whatever legacy you thought you might have in this industry is justly placed where it belongs, somewhere between David Begelman and Tommy the Clown (the krumping closen whose team I was put on against my wishes). My intent is to regain just a smidge of the self worth that I had when I started at WMA, but I’m not making any promises to myself.
I take this action after many years of dedicated, honorable service to WMA. To say that I can no longer effectively perform my duties in this dysfunctional environment, is like saying Octomom is a healthy example of planned parenthood. Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary that was much more than that 98% of Americans earn, and I agreed because I bought into the whole “agent-as-rainmaker,” douchebag idea that I had to live large to make large, so instead of a Suburu Forester, I got the 5-Series BMW and instead of buying in the Valley, I bought on the Westside, where I am still miles from the water and just a razor’s width from my pube-trimming neighbor’s bathroom window — so I have a huge nut, a family and a sense of entitlement which I do not deserve nor did I earn. Having now been let down by you and the management of this agency, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down or for the benefit of the whiny and talentless clients we are forced to represent.
You and I have met and have spoken to each other, but in keeping with your non-management management style, I always felt you were looking over your shoulder into the dead, greymatter-less eyes of Danny Greenberg or some other stooge who would laugh at your inane Michael Scott, “that’s what she said” jokes….
Anyway, you get the idea, I’ve lost the will to continue — writing and working here…
But please know, that this choice is right for me. I wish others at WMA good fucking luck finding peace with their difficult decision to put their futures in your hands, and only hope their judgment is not clouded by fear or Irv’s promises of tequilla shots.
Mr. Wiatt, I wish you success in your commitment to dismantle a legendary company, and luck with the merger with Endeavor, you guys deserve one another. I’ll continue over the short term to submit my outstanding expenses and waxing Gaby Morgerman’s lip, but after what’s happened here recently, I can’t remain much longer — there is too much bad blood. I’m not sure how you will greet my resignation, or if you’ll even notice, but at least Irv should be relieved that I’ll leave under my own power and will not need to be “shoved out the door.”
Sincerely,
Name Withheld for Fear of Reprisals
Let me set the record Straight. Kaplan is an ass and classless. He might even be considered vile by some in the Ent. community. However he is not the first to wear the title. That said, his performance has been fairly stellar and consistent. Even if he is a Wyatt boy! Bottom line, Kaplan is an asset and could quite possibly be considered a threat to Endeavor( um…Art of War anyone). Now, Chang, Cooper, Slater, Unger, Smoller, Greenberg, Trawick are all inadequate Agents and basically ALL products of Wyatt’s “good ole boy” network.
AIG’ed. you have written the greatest comment of all time.
The only thing missing from AIG’ed’s Hall of Fame FU is the parting holla “Wy-att-oughta!!!”
“setting the record straight” – yes, i think Kaplan is an asset. Who knows if he’ll even want to be part of the merged WMA.
TO me, the one equation that has to be recognized is that ICM, UTA, and Gersh’s clients might be tempted to head over to the new and improved WMA immediately.
So perhaps there should be some WMA/END mixers fairly quickly to see if these guys are the Mighty Ducks or the Mighty Ducks 2 together.
AIG’ed…I think I’m in love with you.
I think I’m in love with all of you, too…I really hope Nikki does a permanent link to this post because this the Greatest. Comment Thread. Ever.
I hope when this merger thing is all over, ICM and CAA decide to merge so we can do this again!
AIG’ed:
We’re not worthy!!!
Your brother in the struggle of Tommy The Clown,
Name Withheld Too
So glad I went Gersh.
Regards,
‘-A. Whiny Talentless-Hack’
Is it just me or should someone bring up that Chris Donnelly has no business of his own and has managed to loose half of what John Lesher handed him. Besides, I heard Martin Scorsese doesn’t pay even pay commission.
AIG’ed, be my agent.
Hey AIG’ed, start your own boutique and sign me. Por favor.
AIG’ed
Reveal your name and open a small boutique agency. I have a feeling you will have an instant client list and not all of us are whiny and talentless.
huh…all this back and forth and so far joanne wiles name has managed to stay unmentioned. 70 posts and not a single mention. huh.
AIG’ed please get one thing straight.
Those of us afflicted prefer to use “Jet Whore.”
Thanks.
Finke, are you going to be doing hour-by-hour coverage today?
Strike that.
Finke, could you make AIG’d in charge of managing this topic and all further posts? So I rephrase my original question: AIG, will you be doing hourly updates?
I have been reading all of these comments as well as the topic itself. There appears to be a split on who is for WMA and who is for Endeavor. I am confused to say the least.
Question: How do agencies run? What determines a great agency? Is it based on clientele and the dollars that the artist brings to the agency?
I thought that agents income is based on the amount of work and contract that an artist/actor generates. The more an agent gets work and/or has security in packaging and marketing an actor should be great for the overall agency and the agent too. That would increase their salaries.
Question: What is the structure of an agency? How does it work? What are the Regs and SOP’s of an agency? What is the difference between an agent and a manager? Can an agent also be a manager? What role do publicists play in the actors agency in protocol and procedural things?
All of this fascinates me. I am quite curious about the world of agents/managers/publicists, etc.
Question: Is there a book by someone that I could purchase to help me understand some of the posters postings on this thread? I really want to understand the process and be educated.
Any help and thoughts here on my posting are very much welcomed.
There’s nothing more pathetic than Endeavor’s MP Lit dept. Donnelly and Besser walk around all cool in their suits, but there is absolutely zero between the ears. I heard Besser told an exec one time that she needs to start reading the NY Times… Fucking loser. There’s no one in the world who actually understands the NY Times less than he.
I’ve been inspired…let’s take back control…AIG’ed, seriously, open an agency that begins with the right philosophy, right attitude, right people. We’ll help you cover your “nut.” Who’s with me? Let’s start on our Jerry Maguire manifesto…
AIG’ed: Where do I submit my resume, for when you start your own agency? Please advise.
AIG’ed Can I work in your mail room?
Jack
Cost of Aaron Kaplan to Endeavor: $750,000
Amount Endeavor will lose if they don’t hire him: $0
Seeing Kaplan get back some of the abuse he dished out over the years: priceless
Hold the front page – AGENTS IN BACKSTABBING EGOMANIAC SHOCKER!!!
sounds like the typical american company in this current dog shit status of an economy. both heads have obviously done something right to get to the position they are in today there is no denying it. the problem at hand is that both Emanuel and Wiatt need to compromise in the interest of their companies rather than themselves. such a compromise may bring short term loss in personal status, but in the long term each agency will benefitgreatly, and help them to grow. such a compromise could mark the correct foundation for a corporate culture that will create a lead to massive success in the future. the combination of WMA’s leading music department, and endeavors glitzy and spotlit talent would create an overall agency that would eliminate competition, making it the entertainment industries leading agency. nevertheless this is only possible if the two heads could put their egos aside and do what is best for their babies (the companies). their belief that they themselves come first is one that needs to be changed and modernized. if they are so scared in putting their employees in control then why did they hire them and more importantly why do they have such rigorous training for year before making it to the big leagues? these are the most important questions that agency heads should be asking themselves…. not “what can i do that will be best in my self interest?”, but “what is the fastest and best way to make the agency grow?”
Desperately culling comments for relevant information to infant career. Thank you Lassie for intelligent, objective and well-presented insights. I can stop using a paper bag to breath now & get back to my work.
AIG’ed~
I am an up and coming actress who’s been put through the ringer from my previous crappy, good-for-nothing agents. I am salivating to find out who you are and when you are opening shop with your own little agency. There are a lot of agencies out there that are moving into the burn can but I can tell already, just as others can, that with that great little coconut of yours, you will have zero problem become a super agent under your own name. So hurry up and reveal who you are … I have a Wonder Woman movie to get made and I’m not getting any younger!
I can’t believe all the love for AIG’d! Are you people per reals? At any moment before he bought the house or the BMW AIG’d coulda quit WMA or the business. But no, he stuck around working for people he didn’t respect so he could acquire the big ticket items he now feels a responsibility (can’t live without) to keep. Shameless, if you ask me. That he wrote an anonymous letter condemning his boss is just plain sad and pathetic. Wanna make a splash, AIG’d? Wanna stand up and be a man, AIG’d? Wanna be known for someone who stood up for something? THEN SIGN THE DAMN LETTER! No doubt if this merger happens you will pray you get to keep your job and in ten years will be writing more anonymous letter to DHD only this time you’ll reference a house int he hills and a Hummer. I don’t know you. But from where I sit you’re a coward and one of many reason why Hollywood is in sad decline. Grow some, AIG’d! You’ll respect yourself tomorrow.
Mark Scott
(see! that’s how you write your name at the end of a letter)
The only reason any of these guys aren’t capable of coming to an agreement is of egos. What are there going to be, 65 partners? Why does Endeavor feel the need to make anyone that has more than 10 clients a partner? And anyone who was on a desk more than a year, an agent. Then show up on set and in the offices and try and act like they are relevant to anything getting done?
I am now working in another segment of the entertainment field. The only one making money. The one sad thing is that, despite my being a strong person, I realize for many years I was the “abused girlfriend”. You don’t realize it until you are out. I still duck, take a deep breath and wait for the body blows if something wrong happens. I wait for the tantrums that don’t come. I expect the ranting lecture and get “hey, it happens”. For so many years, the majority of my decisions and rationalizations were fear based. I’m living in my own bizarro world. It’s going to take some getting used to but I’m not looking back.
AIG’ed makes me think of the ‘paper’ Jerry McGuire wrote.
Seemed like a good idea at the time – at least he put his name on it.
Morons… Every single one of you who either applauded or condemned AIG’ed’s little rant as potentially being that of a real WMA staffer. What it is, (and deserves applause for being so) is a nice bit of satire, playing off the ACTUAL resignation letter of Jake DeSantis. He was an exec VP at AIG. This letter was published in the NYT (that’s a newspaper people) on March 25. Look it up, read it… you’ll see that the poster here took the letter and reproduced it almost verbatim… Replacing appropriate names and such here and there, while adding some bitingly funny comments to reflect the Agency life. Funny yes — real — not a chance. Although, don’t put it past the douche factor of your typical agent to just copy someone else’s resignation letter — they steal everything else. But for all you hoping AIG’d starts a shop and wants resumes submitted… Just apply at Iamadumbshit.com and then take a class on basic research skills in the internet age. I.e. go to Google and do a simple search before you mark yourself as an idiot. Can’t believe how many people knee-jerk responded to this without so much as doing that. AIG’d even acknolwedged Jake DeSantis right at the top of his letter, giving thanks! And I’m betting all these hire me bitches were thinking — here’s a guy with original thought and ideas. Yeah, let jump on that bandwagon… Mmm-hmmm… To AIG’d — good job, very funny — you know what you were doing. So do I. The rest of you… Read something other than a blog.
Hey Mark Scott…it’s a resignation letter not a suicide note.
HeardofGoogle?
You’re the type of person who makes working in entertainment such an unpleasant experience. Bitter, spiteful and full of resentment. Do yourself a favor and get out.