Comment by Sunlight — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 12:46pm PDT Reply to this post
This pettiness is not surprising.
Variety cannot compete for “news” because they are stuck suckling the tit of the major studios for their ad money. This leads to bitterness and incompetence amongst staffers.
I worked at Reed’s parent company many years ago and the people running and working in the “media” division are considered idiots by the rest of this huge worldwide company that services the business to business needs of literally every major industry in the world.
Variety has been on the block at Reed so many times it’s not even funny.
They even sold their internal “Variety” ShowBiz Expo trade show to another company years ago.
Why?
Because a below-the-line production oriented show was considered beneath the above-the-line minded editors of the Variety magazine.
So Variety/Reed sacrificed corporate profits and servicing the real production industry in Hollywood for corporate ego.
Par for the course.
So let me get this right. It goes back to a reporter reporting on your piece then you reporting back which was reported about by Variety which you posted about which is then being linked to by the huffington post.
i think it’s safe to say that we are definitely through the looking glass people.
Comment by elliott — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 12:58pm PDT Reply to this post
You go, Nikki.
It’s really stupid of them to attack you for your blog and the credentials you have. If they can’t break a scoop before you do, then tough.
You have the credentials and your professional work is linked on the home page, so why is credibility an issue here for these studio-run magazines? Great of you to stick it to those uppity people at Variety and HR.
Comment by Matt C — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 1:38pm PDT Reply to this post
You should really stop making yourself the news, Nikke. My God, it’s called tact — get some.
Comment by Disbelief — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 1:46pm PDT Reply to this post
OMG who cares. Please stop. They hate you, you hate them. Let’s get back to real stories and news already. All this snarking is just tiring and annoying.
Comment by tiredofitall — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 2:26pm PDT Reply to this post
I cancelled my HR subscription, yet they still keep sending it.
Comment by Anonymous — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 2:45pm PDT Reply to this post
No one has stated the obvious with respect to journalistic ethics:
If Peter Bart ordered his reporters to research and write up 3 hit pieces on you because you spurned Variety’s attempt to buy your blog, or if Peter Bart did so out of spite that he had been kept out of the loop by his superiors at Reed about their contemplating the purchase of your blog –
Peter Bart should be FIRED.
Immediately.
On the spot.
He hs grossly breached his ethical duties to his profession, his readers, and the company he works for.
Sorry to sound somewhat contrarian, but I want to support some of the reporters at the trades. Most of them are hardworking, dedicated reporters, who happen to work at trades — I currently am an editor who has worked at trades and consumer publications and find reporters at the LA Times and EW and other “mainstream” outlets to be lazier and more vengeful. It’s not easy reporting on an industry that constantly lies and it’s your job to come up with what best approximates truth. I don’t believe most of them have any bias towards studios or networks other than those are the businesses they cover day-in and day-out, so coziness is hard to avoid. The dangerous reporters are the lazy ones who use single, anonymous sources (or worse agents, publicists and managers who have agendas and use some reporters to further those agendas). Peter Bart is another matter, he is watching the world pass him by and is desperate to stay relevant. If he wasn’t so mean, I would feel sorry for him.
Comment by Toldwho? — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 3:39pm PDT Reply to this post
Comment by Sonja — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 3:40pm PDT Reply to this post
I started reading Nikki’s site during the writer’s strike. I found that I could consistently get GOOD information about the stuff I care about WAY sooner than through the trades. Sure, it’s sometimes laced with editorializations and “snark,” but that’s because it’s a blog!! As far as blogs go, Nikki is 98% of the time on target… reserving the other 2% for her hatred for what moviegoers choose to support as their number 1 film on the weekends.
you have been using the word “I” an awful lot lately
Comment by metoo — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 3:44pm PDT Reply to this post
I sure hope the Huffington Post picks up this posting…
Comment by keith — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 3:57pm PDT Reply to this post
nikki, please show u’re bigger than that, and let it go. You won. We get it. Now just keep reporting.
Comment by chris — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 5:06pm PDT Reply to this post
I don’t get the people who are taking the time to make disparaging remarks on this comment post. If you’re a regular reader of Deadline Hollywood, then you should already know what you’re getting yourself into when YOU direct your browser to this site. We all know that Nikki, like her or not, is a mom-and-pop shop facing off against conglomerates and easily bought pretenders. So if you’re going to lambaste her for a little gloating, then you also better be writing hate mail to every studio, network and agency that takes out TV and print ads to congratulate themselves when one of their inane media products wins kudos. That or just go ahead and reveal your true identity as a shill for Variety or the studios. Or, better yet… shut the eff up. I almost barfed when I saw THREE anti-Nikki Finke posts on Variety’s site last Sunday. Disgusting. Bullies deserve to have their noses bloodied and I hope Nikki’s fists never tire. Keep rubbing their faces in it Nikki!!
Comment by El Mono — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 5:16pm PDT Reply to this post
For some reason, the following quote from Mark Twain comes to mind:
“The plan of the newspaper is good. If you can’t get a compliment any other way, pay yourself one. I do that often. I’ll do it right now. I can state that at this time there are two men in the world who are most remarkable. Kipling is one and I am the other. Between us we cover all knowledge. Kipling knows all that can be known and I know the rest.”
–Mark Twain
Comment by Twainmeister — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 5:19pm PDT Reply to this post
Gotta love the irony, Nikki!
Comment by Helen Hill — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 5:34pm PDT Reply to this post
I never had a HR subscription and they keep on sending it!
Comment by Lars — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 5:38pm PDT Reply to this post
This feud has officially received more coverage than it warrants. Get over yourself Nikki – TOLDJA!!!!
Comment by Come On! — Tuesday March 24, 2009 @ 5:46pm PDT Reply to this post
Just hoping Nikki Finke won’t ever sell out and let any big media outlet buy DHD. That thought scares me.
Variety has revealed itself as the industry shill it is. It’s the old strategy of appropriating the new and turning it into a big-biz mouthpiece that has happened on a number of occasions (YouTube anyone?).
I have to laugh at the number of comments on the Variety blog entries, though. That about says it all.
Hey Disbelief, first of all genius, learn how to spell Nikki’s name. It’s N-I-K-K-I. Secondly, this is HER blog which consists of HER thoughts and HER comments. Do you not know how this whole blogging this works? Perhaps you should look up the definition of “tact” yourself.
Posting a link to an article linking to your article? And captioning it as “What has Peter Bart wrought?” Nice.
Wow… this made my day. The sun is out, the birds are singing, and the trades are getting their comeuppance! Viva Nikki!
Underwhelmed was ‘whelmed’ enough to comment
This pettiness is not surprising.
Variety cannot compete for “news” because they are stuck suckling the tit of the major studios for their ad money. This leads to bitterness and incompetence amongst staffers.
I worked at Reed’s parent company many years ago and the people running and working in the “media” division are considered idiots by the rest of this huge worldwide company that services the business to business needs of literally every major industry in the world.
Variety has been on the block at Reed so many times it’s not even funny.
They even sold their internal “Variety” ShowBiz Expo trade show to another company years ago.
Why?
Because a below-the-line production oriented show was considered beneath the above-the-line minded editors of the Variety magazine.
So Variety/Reed sacrificed corporate profits and servicing the real production industry in Hollywood for corporate ego.
Par for the course.
So let me get this right. It goes back to a reporter reporting on your piece then you reporting back which was reported about by Variety which you posted about which is then being linked to by the huffington post.
i think it’s safe to say that we are definitely through the looking glass people.
You go, Nikki.
It’s really stupid of them to attack you for your blog and the credentials you have. If they can’t break a scoop before you do, then tough.
You have the credentials and your professional work is linked on the home page, so why is credibility an issue here for these studio-run magazines? Great of you to stick it to those uppity people at Variety and HR.
You should really stop making yourself the news, Nikke. My God, it’s called tact — get some.
OMG who cares. Please stop. They hate you, you hate them. Let’s get back to real stories and news already. All this snarking is just tiring and annoying.
I cancelled my HR subscription, yet they still keep sending it.
No one has stated the obvious with respect to journalistic ethics:
If Peter Bart ordered his reporters to research and write up 3 hit pieces on you because you spurned Variety’s attempt to buy your blog, or if Peter Bart did so out of spite that he had been kept out of the loop by his superiors at Reed about their contemplating the purchase of your blog –
Peter Bart should be FIRED.
Immediately.
On the spot.
He hs grossly breached his ethical duties to his profession, his readers, and the company he works for.
Period.
End of story.
Sorry to sound somewhat contrarian, but I want to support some of the reporters at the trades. Most of them are hardworking, dedicated reporters, who happen to work at trades — I currently am an editor who has worked at trades and consumer publications and find reporters at the LA Times and EW and other “mainstream” outlets to be lazier and more vengeful. It’s not easy reporting on an industry that constantly lies and it’s your job to come up with what best approximates truth. I don’t believe most of them have any bias towards studios or networks other than those are the businesses they cover day-in and day-out, so coziness is hard to avoid. The dangerous reporters are the lazy ones who use single, anonymous sources (or worse agents, publicists and managers who have agendas and use some reporters to further those agendas). Peter Bart is another matter, he is watching the world pass him by and is desperate to stay relevant. If he wasn’t so mean, I would feel sorry for him.
I’m not messing with you, Nikki. whew!
Go Nikki…
Go Nikki…
Go Nikki…
I started reading Nikki’s site during the writer’s strike. I found that I could consistently get GOOD information about the stuff I care about WAY sooner than through the trades. Sure, it’s sometimes laced with editorializations and “snark,” but that’s because it’s a blog!! As far as blogs go, Nikki is 98% of the time on target… reserving the other 2% for her hatred for what moviegoers choose to support as their number 1 film on the weekends.
SNARK!!!!
I have to agree with disbelief
you have been using the word “I” an awful lot lately
I sure hope the Huffington Post picks up this posting…
nikki, please show u’re bigger than that, and let it go. You won. We get it. Now just keep reporting.
I don’t get the people who are taking the time to make disparaging remarks on this comment post. If you’re a regular reader of Deadline Hollywood, then you should already know what you’re getting yourself into when YOU direct your browser to this site. We all know that Nikki, like her or not, is a mom-and-pop shop facing off against conglomerates and easily bought pretenders. So if you’re going to lambaste her for a little gloating, then you also better be writing hate mail to every studio, network and agency that takes out TV and print ads to congratulate themselves when one of their inane media products wins kudos. That or just go ahead and reveal your true identity as a shill for Variety or the studios. Or, better yet… shut the eff up. I almost barfed when I saw THREE anti-Nikki Finke posts on Variety’s site last Sunday. Disgusting. Bullies deserve to have their noses bloodied and I hope Nikki’s fists never tire. Keep rubbing their faces in it Nikki!!
For some reason, the following quote from Mark Twain comes to mind:
“The plan of the newspaper is good. If you can’t get a compliment any other way, pay yourself one. I do that often. I’ll do it right now. I can state that at this time there are two men in the world who are most remarkable. Kipling is one and I am the other. Between us we cover all knowledge. Kipling knows all that can be known and I know the rest.”
–Mark Twain
Gotta love the irony, Nikki!
I never had a HR subscription and they keep on sending it!
This feud has officially received more coverage than it warrants. Get over yourself Nikki – TOLDJA!!!!
Just hoping Nikki Finke won’t ever sell out and let any big media outlet buy DHD. That thought scares me.
Variety has revealed itself as the industry shill it is. It’s the old strategy of appropriating the new and turning it into a big-biz mouthpiece that has happened on a number of occasions (YouTube anyone?).
I have to laugh at the number of comments on the Variety blog entries, though. That about says it all.
Hey Disbelief, first of all genius, learn how to spell Nikki’s name. It’s N-I-K-K-I. Secondly, this is HER blog which consists of HER thoughts and HER comments. Do you not know how this whole blogging this works? Perhaps you should look up the definition of “tact” yourself.
As the late, great, Jean Shepherd used to say, “Just keep you’re knees loose,kid”.