6 PM UPDATE: It’s official — the SAG National Board has approved a 2-year tentative deal. The vote was 53.38% to 46.62% and SAG will recommend the pact. But there will be both “Pro” and “Con” statements sent to members with the ratification materials. The official SAG and AMPTP statements are below.
4:40 PM: I hear there hasn’t been the intense level of vitriol inside SAG’s National Board meeting about the tentative TV/Theatrical Agreement with the AMPTP. That’s because I’m told opponents of the terms of the deal will get to include their “Con” statement when it goes out to the 120,000-strong members (at least those in good standing). I applaud this very fair and balanced step towards educating the big union’s actors about whether they wish to ratify this pact or not.
The “Vote No” contingent believes that, once actors see on paper that their residuals will slip away, they’ll reject the contract. Interestingly, the official SAG statement about the contract doesn’t spell out the exact residuals called for in the agreement, even though other provisions are specified.
But the SAG National Majority is privately saying it’s counting on the “exhaustion” factor to ensure passage: that SAG members are so tired of how long it’s taken to reach a deal that they’ll “Vote Yes” just to end the prolonged process. Still, SAG’s new leaders are going to have to explain in their “Pro” statement why in the world they didn’t at least try to negotiate better terms. Because this is the AFTRA contract with a few bones thrown in for features that were expected to be included at the last minute no matter who was heading SAG.
However, SAG’s ex-leadership would never have allowed the awful force majeure “compromise” that SAG’s Leaders 2.0 agreed to that leaves too many individual actors without the protection of their union.
After the SAG National Majority fired National Executive Director and Chief Negotiator Doug Allen, disbanded the guild’s Negotiating Committee, and replaced it with an appointed task force, the new unit was handed a “Last, Best & Final Offer” by the AMPTP”.
The only term truly bargained was to trim the 3-year pact down to a 2-year pact so it would end the same time as AFTRA’s, and that was accomplished in backchannel negotiations with the Hollywood CEOs. The SAG National Majority’s thinking is that, then, both unions could merge and together negotiate better New Media terms since the Hollywood CEOs will better know their profit margins. But the “Vote No” contingent believes this is a hopelessly naive strategy. Because Big Media and its AMPTP has failed to make more lucrative agreements for each new technology that came along — first VHS, then DVDs, now streaming and downloading. So the fact is that not once have the studio and network CEOs been open to renegotiate the contract terms each time a new format caught on.
No one really knows if the pact will pass. ”It’s going to take a massive upheaval from the membership to change what they’re imposing on us,” one of my sources says, ”and we don’t have a leader now, just accomplices.”
Finally, I hope that no one plays fast and loose with this ratification vote. I hope there’s no attempt like IATSE did to claim a “No” vote is a strike authorization. (It’s not.) I also hope there’s no attempt to confuse the Commercials Contract with the TV/Theatrical Contract. SAG members deserve an honest and open discussion about the pros and cons.
Here is the officiaL SAG statement tonight:
SCREEN ACTORS GUILD NATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVES TENTATIVE
TELEVISION AND MOTION PICTURE CONTRACTS AND RECOMMENDS RATIFICATIONLos Angeles (April 19, 2009) – The Screen Actors Guild National Board of Directors today voted 53.38 percent to 46.62 percent to approve and recommend to members, new, two-year successor agreements to the 2005 Producer-Screen Actors Guild Codified Basic Agreement and 2005 Screen Actors Guild Television Agreement.
The proposed agreement, covering actors in motion pictures and television delivers 3.5% effective annual increases comprised of a 3% wage increase and a .5% pension and health contribution increase upon ratification, and a 3.5% wage increase in year two.
The board passed the below motion shortly after 4:00 p.m. today:
It was moved and seconded that the National Board directs the Interim National Executive Director to send the tentative agreement between the Producers represented by the AMPTP and the Screen Actors Guild for successor agreements to the 2005 Producer–Screen Actors Guild Codified Basic Agreement and the 2005 Screen Actors Guild Television Agreement to the membership for ratification, with a recommendation from the Board to vote ‘Yes.’
Approved: 53.38% –46.62%“I urge members to carefully review both the pros and cons in the referendum materials, and exercise their right to vote,” said Screen Actors Guild National President Alan Rosenberg.
Interim National Executive Director David White said: “We are pleased that Screen Actors Guild members will soon be voting on a deal for television and motion pictures. We’re eager to get our members back to work and to focus now on the challenges ahead, particularly on initiating a comprehensive effort to thoughtfully plan for the future.
Our negotiating committee, task force and professional staff have worked countless hours on this agreement over the last year. On behalf of the National Board, I thank them for their time, commitment and expertise.”
Chief Negotiator John McGuire stated: “This tentative agreement delivers increased contributions to the SAG pension plan, increased minimums, a significant gain in background actor numbers from 50 to 55 over the term of the contract, and it tracks the new media provisions achieved by other entertainment industry unions. The term of the agreement puts SAG in sync with the other unions, and does not include the extended term recently proposed by the AMPTP.”
Provisions of the proposed deal include:
• A two-year term of agreement concluding June 30, 2011.
• Effective annual increases comprised of 3.0% in wage increases and .5% in pension contributions upon ratification, and a 3.5% wage increase one year following ratification.
• A new media structure that tracks those achieved by other industry unions, resulting in gains for actors including:
• Jurisdiction on all derivative, made-for new media productions; automatic jurisdiction on all high-budget, original, made-for new media productions; plus jurisdiction on low budget original, new media productions that employee at least 1 covered performer.
• Residuals for exhibition of TV and Theatrical motion pictures on consumer pay platforms (Electronic Sell Through) at a greater percentage than those paid for DVD distribution.
• Residuals for ad-supported streaming of feature films and television programs.
• Residuals for derivative new media programs.
• Additional 5 covered background actors in feature films. From 50 to 53 covered background positions upon ratification of the contract, and from 53 to 55 covered background positions in year 2. Adds 1 covered background position in TV, from 19 to 20, upon ratification.
• Increased compensation for guest star premium from 7.5% to 10%.
• Increased trailer money break from $2,500 to $3,000, or more per week.
• Increased overtime money break for three-day performers from $2,700 to $3,000.Ratification ballots will be mailed to eligible SAG members in early May, with an expected return date at the end of the month.
Tabulation will occur immediately upon the conclusion of balloting.Bargaining for a successor agreement to the 2005 SAG TV/Theatrical Contract began on April 15, 2008.
Here’s the statement by the AMPTP:
The new AMPTP-SAG agreement is the eighth major labor agreement reached by AMPTP since the start of 2008 and the 312th such agreement in AMPTP’s 27-year history. Because both sides were willing to compromise we now have an agreement that will provide SAG members with meaningful wage boosts, pension increases, first-class health benefits, and a complete set of new media rights and residuals. With this agreement in place, our entire industry can work together to overcome the enormous economic challenges before us.
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tv/theatrical goes out with a con statement. that’s it. exact details? it’s the aftra contract, basically. individual arbitration for the force majeure claims, instead of collective representation from the union, what we had.
look, everything IS changing. sag dithered when it should have dathered and the people responsible for that are the moderates. I have criticized mf for not just sending out the damn sav when they had the chance, but the active undermining by masur and freed and ufs and all the others would probably have doomed it, given the ridiculous 75% number.
BUT – they should have done it – gotten it out there, and then busted ass to do the best they could to get the 75%. But, they dithered, and now what is going out is the road to ruin folks.
MF people will run for the aftra board, a couple will get elected, and they’ll be so far back-benched they’ll have them on a satellite feed from the roof. it won’t make a damn bit of difference. sag, in my opinion suffered from the delusion alan rosenberg had, that this was a no-brainer – can’t sign it – period. strike if necessary – period, the support will be there.
wrong. if mf made a huge mistake – that was it – expecting the mods to see it that way. the mods immediately began asking the appeasement questions “well, it won’t be SO bad, will it?” and “we can go get in three years if it is, right?”
wrong.
it was at THAT moment that alan and doug should have shifted into overdrive and just used every single tool at their disposal. instead, recognizing the intensity of the threat and the fear it was generating, they dithered, and they tried to “lobby” the membership – thinking, then hoping, then praying, common sense would instill the spine needed to confront the threat.
wrong. I sympathize with their trying to give it a long time to gestate, feeling they would see the membership come around, but, to me, it was like – the guy pulls a gun? you don’t spend 8 months trying to talk him out of it. you jump him immediately, hope nobody gets hurt, and expect that somebody will, but the guy with the gun will be out of the picture.
that’s what happened. there was WAY too much “now – hold on big-fella! (the amptp) let’s be reasonable,” when of course, they had no intention of being reasonable, and never did.
so, where are we now? we have a commercial contract and a tv/theatrical contract going out for ratification, only needing 50 percent. both completely caved on new media, both gave serious roll-backs and give-aways, and there is absolutely no precedent to predict with anything but foolishness, that the reclaimed retro-activity will unite the creative unions in two years.
dga sits smug, feeling they got it right, right off the bat – think they’re going to admit they were wrong and join sag in 2 short years? dream on. wga? well, at least they had the balls to strike, but they did NOTHING to support sag, even though sag walked their picket lines for 100 days. NOTHING.
AFTRA? Uh…
so, how are we ever going to get out of this, reclaim a fair deal in new media, reclaim clip consent, reclaim product placement protections, reclaim collective bargaining on force majeure – that, and other stuff we’re on the verge of giving away?
honestly – if I had to guess? we won’t. if the contract passes, the world changes. for good, for the middle class actor. it’s just going to be a question of how bad we just fucked ourselves.
From what I understand at this moment, individual actors under this deal would be left to fend for themselves on force majeure. The whole point behind a union in the first place is strength through solidarity, or, put another way, uniting for strength. U4S’ actions aren’t exactly aligning with their moniker here.
For all of the reasons that we have discussed here and elsewhere, SAG voters should vote NO on the tentative agreement, and send David White back to the negotiating with a clear mandate to do what new national majority corporate appeasers (the self-styled “moderates”) said he would do – negotiate something much better than what he inherited after they fired Doug Allen.
Overall, I agree with Matt Mulhern. The SAV should have gone out post-haste. Barring that, the LBF should gone out neutral. In effect, the LBF is going out kind of neutral now – with pro and con statements, SAG voters are being asked to decide for themselves if they want this turkey.
IMHO, Membership First really should have put organizing into overdrive as well. For a union our size, the number of personnel in our organizing staff was worse than pathetic even before Todd Amorde (and who can blame him???) ankled.
While the WGA let the United Hollywood website lapse, in fairness to them SAG didn’t give the writers anything specific that they could do. The WGA was keeping its powder dry for an actual labor action I think, and if we’d gotten our 75 percent, the writers have been prepared to hit the pavement with us.
As it is, I am joining those opposed to the tentative agreement – and I couldn’t care which faction, if any, they align themselves with – to see if we can’t rally at least 50 percent+1 to send White back to the table with the moguls to get us deal worthy of ratification.
This is a bad deal. What was gained by firing Doug Allen? Now in addition to paying Allen’s salary, the membership is paying for David White and John McGuire as well. Vote no, and remember the union busters—James Cromwell, Amy Brenneman, Richard Masur, Ned Vaughn and company in the next election.
I wish people, Nikki included, would stop with the canard that we’re ‘going to lose residuals.’ We’ve already lost them! I did a lot of hour long television in the last few years and how many episodes re-ran? Next to none. The days of the prime-time network rerun are already gone. What this contract does successfully is give us a mechanism to share in a new stream of income.
I’m fine with this contract and will be happy to vote yes. It’s great to finally see some pragmatism in our union.
Excellent! Time for us all to get back to work! The 200 and some odd films can begin production, the pilots can be shot w/SAG brothers and sisters; it’s all good. Smile everyone, it’s back to the grind!
Absolutely voting NO, as are most actors that I know. And for the trolls – yes – I am a regularly working actor.
I remember my labor law class. I remember being a union steward and strike votes. Now, I guess I can say it this is the death of unions. First they killed the UAW- pay cuts or bankruptcy. Second they tried to kill SEIU. Third, they killed SAG. What’s next the teamsters?
How can one have a union when individual members have to bargain for residuals? Question for AMTP and all the unions. How can one side keep all the money and the other side say OKAY BOSS, pay us when you want, when you want and if you don’t pay us it’s okay. Residuals, displacement etc etc. And don’t say it’s the economy. GE 38 billion in revenue
9.8 billion in movie profits last year 2008.
Yikes, when they stop residuals and reduce A list salaries and cancel movies like Halo .Well, if I was a studio exec I would be wondering which new plane to buy, heating up the coals for the villa in Fiji and thinking I can adopt another five kids from Mali.
Vote yes and cut your own throat. Vote no and let the studio cut your throat. This is a sad contract burn it like the UAW did to that Fiat memo. Either way you will not get the money and still pay your fired negotiator.
The deal stinks.
But, it really is too late to fix it now. The producers will further obfuscate and they know, deep down, that the fractured SAG will have to capitulate in the end.
Again, this stinks.
Unfortunately, once WGA, DGA and IATSE basically took the Producer’s ‘take it or leave it’ offers, SAG was stuck in the wilderness.
The aforementioned unions plus SAG should begin IMMEDIATELY plan for the next contracts a few years down the road.
TOGETHER this time! The Producers succesfully employed a divide and conquer strategy to a T.
Start planning NOW union leaders.
NOW.
Re: the AMPTP statement, “Because both sides were willing to compromise…” I had to hold my breath to stop laughing out loud in public. What a crock of shit.
With over 46% of the board saying “no” on this contract, it’s plain that the membership should consider this fact very carefully – who said “no” and why. Remember who (on the board) is fighting for members and who is trying to weaken SAG to merge with AFTRA. Do not forget this!
If this contract passes it will be the end of the middle class actor. I happen to think that’s a bad thing, but that’s just me, the middle class actor.
If this passes every single actor I know will have to get a job. It will be impossible to support a family. Over the last three years I have seen my income drop from 120K to 65K and I work a pretty fair amount. Residuals represented 40% of my income. If you are going to do away with them, you have to seriously ramp up the initial payment.
Look for a lot more actors who do it as a hobby not a profession, and that will do nothing but drop the level of talent all the big money making stars will have at their sides. Maybe nobody will notice. I mean, look at the crap they watch night after night now.
“Excellent! Time for us all to get back to work! The 200 and some odd films can begin production, the pilots can be shot w/SAG brothers and sisters; it’s all good. Smile everyone, it’s back to the grind!”
Are you fucking kidding me?!! “Dirk Diggler”: Another worthless troll from Omaha who knows nothing about the industry or how it works. What productions were shut down because of the prolonged negotiations? What pilots you inane ass?? NBC took 5 hours off the prime-time slot for another talk/variety show, so there’s 5 less hours of prime time scripted television, you moron.
Dear Dirk:
Please go back to the Hannah Montana fan site they’re debating the new spring colors, your input is needed there.
Also, please die in a fire.
Hey “Future Actor as Hobbyist” — And exactly how many days did you have to toil at your hobby to earn that 65K?? Be thankful you earned well above the national median without having an actual full time job. God forbid you (gasp) work in between acting gigs in order to support a 6 figure lifestyle. You chose the path in the hope of winning the Brad Pitt lottery. Clearly you didn’t. So re-evaluate or be thankful for what you get. How much money are you really supposed to be paid for standing on your mark and reciting memorized words?? As if it matters whether it’s you or one of the next 99 people who look and sound just like you?? Take the contract — continue to be overpaid and enjoy it.
Hey “person with an actual job”… news flash… actors don’t choose to work sporadically. That’s just the nature of the business. The gigs come sporadically. There is no regular 9-to-5 grind. Those who land a series gig can count on long, long hours up to 7 days per week when shooting. And then nothing for months at a time. It’s not about choosing not to work. It’s about getting work when it’s available.
And these AMPTP trolls would be funny if they weren’t so damn transparent. Oh, they’re still funny…
If actors vote for this contract, you deserve anything and everything that happens to you.
Person with an actual Job -
What so many people who do have a full-time job do not know about the creative professions in Hollywood – acting, writing, and to some extent directing – is the initial and ongoing investment in time and money to start a career and keep it going. I know a successful television and film actor who – after some promising guest star spots on TV and smaller supporting roles in films – spent a full year auditioning and networking, and he couldn’t get arrested. He hung tough, and things are better for him now, but he relied on residuals and teaching acting to get him through the lean times.
The question you should ask about that average middle-class working actor is, how much are they really making per-hour after deducting their business-related expenses and factoring in the hours they spend training, preparing, auditioning, networking, reading scripts, and taking meetings. And, like that now-successful television actor, you have to be prepared – financially and emotionally – for lean times. Add all that up, and from a strictly financial standpoint, the industry may not be as attractive as it looks.
Hey, “Person With an Actual Job”- How about you become “Person With an Actual Clue” when it comes to what actors truly do. If you think it’s just about “standing on your mark and reciting memorized words”, then I guess directors of photography just “hit record”, directors just “tell people where to stand”, and writers just “type some stuff for people to say”. Idiot.
whining is all good and fun, but just like in life, there’s an end to each episode (or like in tV?), and then you move on to the next one.
sag made calculations, good or bad, that ran aground when the economy hit all of us from behind. undercut by aftra? possibly (i think so). poorly represented by angry radicals that should have played it better? (anyone’s call). undercut by appeasing moderates? (i tend to think so).
but it’s time for the monday morning/mourning quarterbacking to end. whether sag got screwed, or screwed themselves, or both, it’s time to do like a major league baseball team does. walk away without all the bitching, and prove who’s the best next year.
in this case sag wAs lucky enough to be able to prove that 2 years from now. whether the moderates were appeasers or not, they did the right thing in getting a 2-year contract. and now it’s time for all the bitchers and moaners to get to work on winning the ballgame (i.e. contract) next time around.
playing and replaying a game that’s over is really pathetic. and if you think this isn’t over for now, and that some groundswell of a ‘no’ vote will rise up from the red sea, listen real hard (to mix metaphors): the fat lady has just sung.
she’s been singing since 10 months ago, when no strike authorization vote went out. time to listen and plan for 2 years hence.
Every other union has signed a variation of this contract. There will be no renegotiation. It is sign this or strike, and we’ll never get 75% to strike. And even if by some miracle we strike, we’ll sign it eventually.
What on earth are people thinking by campaigning for a “no” vote? Delay raises, eat a strike, and then end up with the same contract anyway?
It’s why standards need to be tightened. Hobbyist actors who work a day every two years shouldn’t be able to vote.
HANK- you are one funny guy….
hope you get a sitcom! Seriously.
@ Hank Yablonski:
Bitter much? If you really care, yes feature production did slow down considerably during this SAG action. I think it’s true that a lot of that was just due to the economy, to funding sources drying up, to the general anxiety of where the industry is headed. But guild anxiety, particularly involving such a key guild as SAG, played its part as well. More importantly, and more damningly, was what it did to television. It’s not so much that television production slowed down, it just shifted nearly completely to AFTRA. Everyone at the TV Studios realized that SAG was a mess, that because of the shift to digital technology it was no longer necessary to use SAG, and that AFTRA was not only less likely to interrupt production, they were cheaper.
That’s where we got f***ed if you really want to know. Despite the fact that our leadership was constantly discussing “new media” they didn’t know enough to strategize the shift in camera technology.
So, instead of taking your frustration out on some anonymous person named “Dirk Diggler” you can take it out on the people from our own union who completely dropped the ball….
Person With an actual Job:
When you get the gig, that’s the vacation. The actual job of being an actor is going out on auditions, and trying to find representation. You don’t get paid for that.
(Person with an actual job) How dare you insult someone by implying acting isn’t a real job! Actors constantly have to prove to others that they have a legitimate job. Nobody asks a surgeon ‘well what surgeries have you done lately?’ but as soon as someone says they are an actor people have to know what they’ve ‘been’ in lately. Kudos to ‘Future Actor’ who has done so well because it ain’t easy in the business! I also totally agree with what he/she said, passing this contract will be the end for many middle class actors. Many have children, mortgages, etc and aren’t doing as well so they will be forced to drop acting altogether. This tentative contract is still unacceptable in my opinion, most people I know are voting no but there are those few who are just so frustrated with how long this has dragged that they will accept anything at this point.
Hulu is coming to a phone near you. It’s not “New Media” anymore. It’s media and the creative guilds deserve to be paid. The time to deal with this is now, not in two years. http://www.businessinsider.com/hulu-iphone-app-coming-soon-badass-2009-4
I’ve said it before on this page – and got smacked by folks who disagreed, but maybe now that we are being asked to accept the exact same contract they were shoving down our throats months ago, I’ll say it again: We have no power folks! Of all the creative unions we have the very least! Whether you believe it or not, the producers think union actors are replaceable – and they proved it after our last strike. The commercial world has never been the same! Non-union actors are all over the TV ads – and all over independent film – and given how many years it has been since that strike, I would say the producers are pretty happy with them!
And is anybody really surprised that the WGA didn’t support us? Why should they? They already stood up for what they believed in and put their houses and savings on the line. And they are stuck with the crappy contract they got regardless of what we get, so they just keep their head down and collect their small checks.
And, by the way, we NEEDED them, that’s why we supported them! The better deal they got, the better it would be for us. But they didn’t need us anymore and so they didn’t support us. That simple.
And that’s the way it has always been. No one supported us during the commercial strike either.
THE ONLY SOLUTION IS FOR ALL THE CREATIVE UNIONS TO NEGOTIATE TOGETHER!
The threat of writers, actors and crew striking at the same time – or even implimenting a work slow-down – is the only thing that will force the producers to negotiate “in good faith” as if they respected us. (I don;t include the directors in this for obvious reasons).
Yes, it will be tough to deal with all the egos and differing needs, but we deal with that already and get very little for it – as evidenced by our paying Doug Allen, David White and the other guy to get us — what exactly? the same contract AFTRA came up with. Not much bang for the buck in that decision.
There is power in numbers! Thats the basis of distributive bargaining! How can you make the other side think you have more power than they do? Banding together is the only way – or show me another solution?
The moderates in our union screwed us because they proved to the producers that our BATNA (best alternative to a negotiated agreement) was not all that good – cause our only choice was to strike and they cried so loud it was obvious many didn’t want to and would eventually cave – which is what happened.
If the producers thought THEIR best alternative to a negotiated agreement was to see ALL THE UNIONS WALK OUT, they would have negotiated with us quite differently.
The AMPTP, the WGA, the DGA, SAG and IATSE all need each other. We are interdependent. Let’s use that to our advantage, rather than allow the AMPTP to divide us and conquer us…which they did this time.
Once more, for the deaf.
What ‘better’ contract could SAG have gotten that would be passed over for a CHEAPER contract by going next door to AFTRA?
What ‘get’ wouldn’t have gotten us further left in the dust by producers comparing the two agreements and making the correct business decision?
What were we suppose to ‘hold out for’ that would not have ultimately left us holding the bag?
It’s the harnessing logic inherent in the predicament of two unions fighting over the same territory that keeps us from getting anything substantially better.
If one pretends that AFTRA’s deal doesn’t exist, then one can rail with fervor at the flaws in the SAG deal and claim there were heaps left on the table; but if one faces the facts, it’s an altogether different story.
As long as those who refuse to face up to the facts as they are, but rather make them up to suit their spleen, then we will hear more of the same from an angry knot of lost ones firmly clutching their blindfolds.