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The group “Keep SAG Relevant” today unveiled another video, this one from Rob Schneider “who wanted very badly to be in a ‘Vote NO’ video but was working out of town. So, he shot one himself and sent it to us”:
Also, “Lumpy” and “Eddie” from the cast of Leave It To Beaver, Frank Bank and Ken Osmond, have made their own video explaining why the tentative SAG TV/Theatrical Contract with the AMPTP is bad for pre-1974 actors:
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.
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Rob Schneider – The common sense-inator. Makin’ the common sense. Bless you Rob.
Rob’s a good guy. He gave a great speech at a union meeting a few months back.
FWIW: the “vote yes” contingent has shut off the “comments” section of their videos posted in youtube.
I keep getting the impression these ‘vote yes’ people are more about pushing forward their own agenda than opening a discussion or considering others’ points of view.
I mean really, if you’re gonna post a video in a public discussion forum like youtube have the courage to keep the discussion forum open.
No matter what the ‘vote yes’ people believe, your opinion does matter. VOTE NO.
The “no” side also seems to address both sides of the issue, whereas the “yes” proponents only advance (what they see as) the positive aspects of the contract, without answering whether they believe the negatives can be overcome later, and if so, how.
At least SAG didn’t buy ‘the full monty’ from the Saylor company.
Not yet at least.
They haven’t hired a cheesy rock band that sounds like the bands playing behind 70′s porn movies to play songs extolling a yes vote when you call SAG and are put on hold.
During merger Fabiani and Lehane hired the most gawd-awful ‘band’ to play a really bad “Vote for merger it’s you future” kind of song.
Maybe tomorrow they’ll have the same band playing a song that goes….”Just bend over, it’ll only hurt a minute — who needs residuals anyway? Let’s get back, yeah,yeah, yeah — let’s get back to work — just pull those pants up and limp back to work — oh yeah…”
love that he’s holding a mug the entire time…
The future if our industry is in the hands of actors. Let’s hope for once their will to please doesn’t outweigh their will to survive.
VOTE NO!
The reality is that the vote “no” faction is correct. The deal sucks and they likely won’t make up lost ground any time soon if ever. But SAG has been a tragicomedy of errors in how this whole situation has been conducted. Essentially about a year ago, the union was faced with a situation where they could take the deal (which is the one they have now essentially) or strike and force a better deal. SAG chose to do the worst possibly thing. Nothing. They didn’t close a deal and come up with a contingency to get what they wanted next time. And they didn’t strike to force a better deal. Instead, they chose a limbo which resulted in 1) feature production shutting down 2) AFTRA closing an inferior deal 3) TV production going forward but converting the next crop of pilot to AFTRA shows 4) SAG fighting like a group of hormonal teenagers.
So here we are a year later and everyone keeps saying, hold out for the better deal. Problem is that by not closing a deal, the limbo will continue. Because of it SAG jurisdiction will continue to erode in TV as more shows go AFTRA and the downward pressure on wages will continue as too many actors chase too few jobs and internet continues to roll on with no jurisdiction.
In a vacuum should SAG take this deal? No. But this isn’t a vacuum and dyspeptic leadership and no cohesive and unified strategy have forced SAG into slowly bleeding to death or accepting a bad deal. Now it’s choosing the least poisonous of poisonous options.
Yea, bummer that the SAG face book site removes the NO info & comments. I sent 5 video responses to them and never have seen a single one published.
This whole fiasco is out of hand. I find it hard to believe that their actions are so blatant. They don’t try to hide anything? How can anyone actually get away with such illegalities?
Vote NO! From Dollar One A Fair Contract is Fair!
over 30 videos of speakers on the subject of the Contract Vote at http://www.youtube.com/Kelpine
Vote NO!
Kelpine
As I advised the writers, so too the actors: Vote No.
A bird in the hand may be worth two in the field, but there are flocks hiding within or behind every bush and bramble. The AMPTP wants you to ignore this fact.
Mmm… isn’t that fine, luxurious wool oh so velvety soft as it slips over your eyes. So comforting. Makes you just want to kick back and relax and…
SNAP THE HELL OUT OF IT!
“New Media” is not some fanciful concept to save for tomorrow. It is among us. It is upon us. It is all around us. It will be THE Media quite soon.
Acquiescence now would undoubtedly lead to the exploitation of exciting new accounting loopholes for many years to come; all at your expense.
The last damn thing we need is even more insidious accounting in this world.
To Kelpine and others that are talking about the hard push for Yes via official SAG channels:
If you look at it a different way it could prove valuable. With SAG pushing so hard for Yes a resulting No outcome would serve as a much firmer response to beat the AMPTP about the ears with.
The Vote No faction seems irrational. You have to be a little tone deaf to want a work stoppage in the current economic climate. If you look at the WGA strike you’ll see that writers lost deals, work dried up, reality (non-union) work blossomed and the industry has been decimated. So another strike would severely cripple the industry. The impact would be felt for years! The small contract gains you fight for would be offset by a lack of work and income. Think hard before you vote no. And, realize the issue can be revisited in better times. Think people!!! Let’s keep working and repair the beleaguered industry!!!
@ John (McGuire?): “Irrational”? Are you serious? Nobody wants a work stoppage you…
Jerk.
Stop putting words in our mouth(s). The “Vote NO faction” is only trying to let everyone know that we don’t have to accept this crap offer, and that we lose nothing by voting ‘NO’. Very simple.
Not “irrational”, you AMPTP pony-boy.
The WGA strike was crippled in the first place because producers still had scripts to shoot after the strike began. Those scripts ran out over the next two months so the effect of the strike was gradual.
But with a SAG [threat of] strike, work stops immediately. There will be no slowing down of work. There will be no money to be made after a strike is called. Production will stop. Period.
The AMPTP knows this all too well. Which is why they don’t want SAG to enact a strike authorization. The SAG Interim Majority agrees.
The SAG Interim Majority is the same faction which is blocking communication between members and anybody who supports voting ‘NO’. Doesn’t that make you a little nervous? That your own board members would silence fair, objective, debate? You should run from this like your hair were on fire.
John writes:
“If you look at the WGA strike you’ll see that writers lost deals, work dried up, reality (non-union) work blossomed and the industry has been decimated.”
Yes, some writers lost deals. Yes, some work dried up. Yes, some reality shows blossomed. These are called sacrifices, and we writers made them to secure gains, the most important of which was to enshrine our profit participation in new media.
The toehold we secured was crucial, and we could not have achieved it without a strike — the AMPTP refused to make any new media concessions until we picked up our picket signs and started marching.
Again, John — sacrifices. Experiencing pain now, to make a better tomorrow, both for ourselves, and for the writers who come after us.
Courage isn’t just a word — it’s a principle that good people act on.
The WGA rammed a bad deal down our throats. I spoke with Verrone personally, and he said they truly believed it was the best offer they were going to get and there was real concern about whether or not the membership would support a longer strike. They pushed the deal through, even ordering people back to work BEFORE THE VOTE FOR RATIFICATION. Shameful.
Please, actors, do not accept a bad deal. You have the ability to hurt the AMPTP immediately.
Unfortunately, the way you’ve conducted your negotiations makes you all look fucking crazy.
Good luck. VOTE NO.