EXCLUSIVE: Sources tell me that CAA is about to make a big announcement that it will start a new recording division similar to the deals that Live Nation and Sony have in place.
“It’s essentially a 360 deal that encompasses all aspects of an artist’s career i.e. music, touring, acting, merchandising, etc,” one music maven confides. Most labels now require a new artist to sign a 360 deal but in most music management circles that’s considered bad for the artist because among other things labels are not equipped to tour artists as well as support their other interests outside of music. But an agency already does those things. This means that, when CAA gets into this business, it will compete with the majors. And that may not sit well. But there’s a big reward if it works. “This is big news and it may be the first agency to get this off the ground,” one of my insiders explains. Actually, the William Morris Agency did have a record division that flopped. (I’m told it was considered a “cash suck” so when Jim Wiatt and Dave Wirtschafter came over, they quickly got rid of it. Problem is, CAA already has been hurt by a lot of “cash suck” decisions by its partners in recent years.
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So now you can either have a label that doesn’t know how to book you gigs, or have a booking agent who doesn’t know how to release your record or get you airplay. Great.
If WME is smart they should try and sign some sort of profit sharing exclusive deals with major labels. If you want to be on say Island Records, your booking agent is WME. What choice would the bands have?
Two questions…
1)Are they hiring
2)Who will be at the head?
I feel like the cost to start a record label is pennies compared to even 10 years ago. may not be quite a cash suck.
If this works, CAA are smart bitches.
And the dick fight heats up
this came to light because of the new boyband act WOW the agency’s are pawning over. They are thinking of the Nysync tpye merch/tv/fil/tour $$ an act can bring in. Remember when New Kids were at full tilt, they did 1 BILLION $ gross. Thats a lot of sugar.
Um. Hm. If you’re repped by CAA, I think you’d have to be pretty foolish, as a performer, to go with their label. Conflict of interest and all that.
Of course as the (remaining) recording labels get their acts into 360 deals they begin to start to look more like agencies… Of course this is just a furtherance of the principle that the entire Recording Industry has been one big conflict of interest from the beginning, but I digress.
Good idea in theory and a good response tot he Record labels essentially becoming Management Co’s. But Record Labels are very complex to get going. “The Kid” hit it on the head. Without the proper staffing, what you’ll end up having is a booking Agent, whom knows everyone in town, except the right people to break a RECORD. It’s a new day in marketing for Artists. There’s a big difference between breaking a new Artist and CreAAting a new Artist!
If CAA wants to tour their artists, they’re going to have to get in bed with Clear Channel. Any bets who’ll be the top and who’ll be the bottom? (Hint: the groups will be in the middle).
music biz is not my forte, but i thought the majority of the $ in music is from touring. do labels still make $?
I found that bands that are smart just bypass it all and do it themselves.
If the songs, live show, and marketing are great they make just as much and they grow real fans that last a life time.
It makes all the sense in the world for CAA to do this. All the money is in touring now, and labels are dying. CAA has built its artist list, will be able to ‘package’ tours together, as well as merchandise and licensing, and reap the rewards with music sales (which are glorified advertisements for the live act now)
Too bad William Morris (EE) has been doing this for years now – well before the merger. Way to be ahead of the curve CAA.
This might work for already established artists who gained visibility from the old system, but breaking any band anymore into megastardom will be difficult. Everything is a niche now, so it is hard to launch anyone into a mass market and maintain a lifetime career. If CAA is willing to experiment with a variety of marketing avenues and is prepared to have a certain number of bands not become megastars, then it might work.
I don’t think there is a clear path, at the moment, to music business success. In terms of visibility, American Idol delivers, but what happens after that hasn’t been much for most of the contestants. What are the other options: Radio doesn’t work quite like it used to work. Getting music on TV is exposure, but not necessarily sales. Touring works, but not every band rises to the next level. Online exposure is part of the equation, but CAA probably isn’t any better than anyone else at this.
Ari will have one of his guys do he same for him. It will probably be one of those side deals that Ari does. Oh yeah, William Morris guys, Ari does side deals that benefit him. Yes he will use company assets but no you wont share in it. Don’t worry you will be like Adam, Patrick and Rick and will just turn the other cheek.
You guys have no clue what Jimmy really got you into.
Here the clock is ticking on Fogelman. None of the Endeavor guys are buying your act and stop trying to act like Ari
This will be CAA music guys bringing in an old crony of theirs to run the label. He’s probably a manager right now who burned his bridges with the labels but still wants to put product out (due to past massive success) because as a manager, he can’t get the respect that the top tier artist managers get. Take a look at the roster, take a look at what artists CAA has that don’t currently have label deals and you’ll see the groundwork for the beginnings of the artists they’ll sign. In some cases, these artists probably reached out to the Live Nations and Targets of the world only to be rebuffed in the current climate.