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My phone has been ringing off the hook this morning with the news about Conan O’Brien’s “blow-out” lead in adult demographics most desirable to advertisers during his first week hosting The Tonight Show. Of course, this is important info, more so than households. Then again, that’s NBC’s mantra: we don’t need eyeballs as long as we have key demos. Actually, both count. Nevertheless, Conan has blown his big first few days’ lead to see-saw with Dave in ratings. But that’s not stopping NBC from gushing:
UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. – June 11, 2009 – Conan is the new King of Late Night. “The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien” was the dominant winner in its first week on the air, delivering huge margins of victory in every ratings category. “The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien” won the week of June 1-5 with a 2.3 rating in the key measure of adults 18-49, the highest rated week for “The Tonight Show” in more than four years, and a towering 156 percent margin over CBS’s “Late Show with David Letterman” in adults 18-49. Even excluding the highly rated premiere show on June 1, Conan won the week with a 1.9 rating among adults 18-49 and by 111 percent over the CBS program (0.9).
“This is beyond our wildest expectations,” said Rick Ludwin, Executive Vice President, Late Night and Primetime Series, NBC Entertainment. “Conan has brought new younger viewers to 11:35 p.m. and we’re gratified that the demographic trend has continued here in week two, where the early numbers continue to show dominant victories, in all the key categories, for ‘The Tonight Show’.”
Back in week one, the previously released metered-market household ratings had shown Conan dominating the week by a 62 percent margin; that lead over “Late Show” expanded to 156 percent in the key 18-49 category (2.3 vs. 0.9) and 267 percent in adults 18-34 (2.2 vs. 0.6), according to national ratings released today by Nielsen Media Research. “The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien” out-rated “Late Show” in every significant ratings category — adults, men and women 18-34, 18-49 and 25-54, plus total viewers — on all five nights of the week.
The 156 percent margin of victory in 18-49 is the highest for the “Tonight Show” over a full week of “Late Show” originals since at least May 1992. Even excluding the high-rated Monday premiere, the 111 percent advantage on Tuesday through Friday is the best for “Tonight” in a week of all “Late Show” originals in more than 10 years (since the week of February 15-20, 1999, 115 percent)
Conan’s 2.3 rating for the week in adults 18-49 is the highest for “Tonight” since the week of February 28-March 4, 2005.
Conan’s average rating for the week in the younger half of the key 18-49 demo, adults 18-34, a 2.2, is a top-10 result among all primetime programs for the week of June 1-7, tying Fox’s “The Simpsons” for #10 on that list. In 18-49, Monday’s 3.8 is #3 versus all primetime programs for the week, behind only two NBA Finals telecasts on ABC.
Conan’s ratings dominance helped lift “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” at 12:35 a.m. ET to its highest weeklong 18-49 rating ever, a 1.0. Jimmy’s margin of victory over CBS’s “Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson” was a hefty 67 percent in 18-49 rating and that margin climbed to 125 percent in the younger half of the demo, adults 18-34 (0.9 vs. 0.4). Jimmy even out-rated Letterman in 18-49 (1.0 vs. 0.9) for the week and dominated Letterman in 18-34 (0.9 vs. 0.6), despite airing an hour later than the CBS telecast.
Since his March 2 debut, Jimmy Fallon has finished #1 in the time period among the broadcast networks on 68 of 70 nights in adult 18-49 rating, including three ties.
At 1:35 a.m. ET, “Last Call with Carson Daly” delivered its biggest 18-49 rating (0.6) since the week of October 15-19, 2007, and biggest overall audience (1.4 million) since the week of December 22-26, 2008.
Conan’s debut on Monday, June 1 generated a 3.8 rating in adults 18-49 and 9.2 million viewers overall, matching the top “Tonight” 18-49 rating on any night of the week since Monday, Jan. 24, 2005 (tying the night of the President Obama interview, March 19, 2009). In total viewers, it’s the biggest Monday audience for “Tonight” since that January 24, 2005 telecast, a special tribute to Johnny Carson.





I feel like laundry – caught in the spin cycle! Which is it: Conan or Dave? Sounds like Conan won those younger demos, which no doubt NBC was going for all along. Let’s face it – Leno is old and bring old people like an old-people magnet.
Nice spin by NBC, but the fact remains that people are sampling Conan and leaving. Not good.
This is very good news for NBC (Nothing But Crap). Besides, the advertisers care more about the demographics nowadays anyway. Also, Conan’s humor does not appeal to old people. This isn’t 1985! We live in the dvr and Hulu world. You don’t have to get a mass audience anymore unless your show is on CBS! If he continues to beat Letterman in the demos, he’ll do just fine! Cohan is a whole lot funnier than Jay Leno ever was. Conan O’Brien reminds me of Johnny Carson in the humor department because Johnny did similar humor to what Conan is doing
Letterman has turned so bitter as he gets old, nobody wants to see him. Why so political? He only goes after Republicans which alienates half his audience. When he attacked Gov.Palin’s 14 year old daughter he jumped the shark. How can a man joke about rape and implicate Alex Rodriquez of molestation? A-Rod likes old chics like Madonna.
You waited until your son was 6 years old to “legitimize” his existance. After seeing your wife, I now see why you are obsessed with Palin. You don’t hate her, it’s her husband who gets to sleep with her every night. Go Conan!
I wonder if Dave’s sudden slide has anything to do with his repeated pedophile rape jokes against the children of his political enemies.
I mean, leaving aside the appropriateness of pedophilia jokes, why the hell does a late-night host even HAVE “political” enemies? Or are we to believe that if Michelle was at the game with Sasha and Malik Letterman would have joked about Michelle’s “slutty stewardess” outfit and A-Rod knocking up the Obama girls?
So yesterday Conan was a loser and today he is a winner.
Maybe NBC doesn’t need Nikki’s notes as to how to gain a younger audience after all.
Great to see Fallon being successful too!
It’s been an extremely fun few weeks of late night banter here on DHD. But will somebody PLEASE explain to me why/how Jimmy Kimmel Live is still on the air!? The discussions about Conan and Letterman, Leno eventually, and even Ferguson have significant relevance in our industry.
But nobody gives two rat fucks about Kimmel. So how does his show remain on my TV? It’s got consistently awful ratings, zero publicity about it is generated, by all accounts the production hemorrhages money, there’s not one shred of buzz about it and a its host is a reprehensible, racist prick. HOW HOW HOW???
What is the reasonable explanation for this?
As Hal said in 2001: “Goodbye, Dave.”
Spin, baby, Spin….
Dave is entering into that bitter old man phase desipe the younger wife and kid schtick. Conan is dumbing down his humor trying to garner a more broad audience, at least until Leno reappears. Regardless of the spin NBC still epicly sucks as a network.
Palin backers like me are running away from Letterman, NBC news, MSNBC, and the NY Slimes. Vote with your feet I say.
Good for Conan. Letterman sucks and his insufferable fanboi’s can go suck it with him.
And there you have it – Leno’s audience is creaky old folk who don’t buy products. Conan’s is upwardly mobile folks with disposable income. Anyone who’s worked in the industry realizes what an enormous difference these demos make, and how vital the 18-49 is.
It became clear last night what Conan’s show is going to be from here onward.
A clone of Leno. Base, trivial, irrelevant.
Cheesy sex jokes and outdated political references one after another. A riff on chlamydia, guys? Bush Sr. jokes? At least be funny, which it most definitely was NOT.
Newsflash: Obama is in office now. Why are you so frightened of making fun of him? Meanwhile, Obama’s making the rounds at all the late night comedy shows like a touring vaudevillian. Surreal.
Gasp. Maybe Leno’s suckitude was really NBC dictating the ‘humor.’ The same dross is now emerging predictably with Conan after a ratings panic. When NBC panics, apparently the content gets more lowbrow.
Meanwhile, not one bit of Conan’s monologue was memorable or funny last night.
This prizing of younger viewers is anachronistic. The world has changed along with how people live their lives and how they age.
Advertisers need to catch up with the times because they are wasting their money.
“Older” viewers are more contemporary and flexible, and increasingly are taste makers.
Younger viewers don’t latch on to one brand of ketchup and hold on for dear life anymore, etc.
the folks in the war room sure are earning their keep
Conan dumbing down his humor? Is it possible?
Though his special hatred for Palin is disturbingly extreme (not just this week, but during the election), Letterman has been quite funny this week.
He lost his spark after the Tonight Show screw over, but some of his old self seemed to revive this week.
Letterman has been laugh out loud funny this week. If he can maintain it, he will cream Conan (despite his mediocre writers.)
Conan is not funny and his “jokes” are getting worse as the show gets desperate.
Just wait til September when Leno starts his 10pm show. Conans ratings will be in the toilet along with Lettermans. If Letterman is still around by September that is.
Many years ago I was incensed that Leno got the Tonight Show gig instead of Letterman. I never missed Late Night. Now I avoid him like the plague. He comes off as angry and rarely funny. It would have made more sense to see him retire and Jay Leno remain. Comedians like Johnny Carson and Bob Hope knew how to do political jokes in a good-natured manner. However, political “humor” is now characterized by personal and vicious attacks by the likes of David Letterman and that contemptible coward, Bill Maher. If it wasn’t for cable, Bill Maher would have descended into permanent obscurity years ago. Their ratings continue to shrink because you cannot insult half of your audience night after night without paying a price. Many of us are just switching off, tuning out and redirecting our interests—or just going to bed earlier.
Look guys, give Conan’s show a chance. It needs time to develop and take its place.
Dave is not getting Tonight Show refugees, those same oldies have had 10 years to choose between Dave and Jay, they chose Jay, and Dave is not a backup. They will be watching at 10, which is a better time for them anyway.
Conan and Dave will have similar ratings, with Conan’s demo being more desirable, in 6 months and it will probably stay that way. NBC knew this, and wants this.
They lost me on the part about Carson Daly.
“I wonder if Dave’s sudden slide has anything to do with his repeated pedophile rape jokes against the children of his political enemies. I mean, leaving aside the appropriateness of pedophilia jokes, why the hell does a late-night host even HAVE “political” enemies? Or are we to believe that if Michelle was at the game with Sasha and Malik Letterman would have joked about Michelle’s “slutty stewardess” outfit and A-Rod knocking up the Obama girls?”
Oh brother. Here we go again with the meme-queens…
“Rape” was of course not stated or implied by any of the jokes, but first came up in Todd Palin’s misinformed reaction to descriptions of the jokes. Nice twist he put on it, involving his own daughter.
“Pedophile” doesn’t enter into the equation either. Even Terry Schiavo would have comprehended that Dave was implying BRISTOL, who is an 18 y.o. public figure widely known for getting impregnated via unsafe premarital sex (at possibly the worst moment of her mother’s political aspiration, revealing her mother’s ‘abstinence-only’ stance to be a hypocritical joke.
The 14-year-old? Only political junkies and Wassilla residents even know her name.
Letterman doesn’t have “political enemies”. He’s been reaching for the same Clinton and Gore jokes now for 10 years, and more recently added others like Spitzer (D). He is equally insulting to members of both parties, as long as the crux of the joke is in the public consciousness. (ANd I use the term “insulting” very loosely – they are jokes in a talk-show monologue. Politicians have been shrugging those off since the advent of radio.
And, no – it certainly is not very likely Dave would have made the jokes you describe: Michelle is not widely viewed as dressing like a “slutty stewardess”, so no one would get the reference. (Whereas no one had trouble relating this to Palin), nor are either of his daughters 18 yet (which would make it an *actual* pedophilia joke, rather than an imagined one), known to be sexually active, or actually ‘knocked up’ by a boyfriend. So the comparison is, in real life, well… rather quite dumb.
“Dave is entering into that bitter old man phase desipe the younger wife and kid schtick.”
You must be quite the pro-lifer, describing an actual wife and child like this. Obviously, you have neither, which is quite a good development for the human race.
“Palin backers like me are running away from Letterman, NBC news, MSNBC, and the NY Slimes. Vote with your feet I say.”
What a clever and original pun on the name of “the New York Times”! Put away your crayons and go research how Sarah prompted the majority of US voters to vote with their feet and run away from her.
“Good for Conan. Letterman sucks and his insufferable fanboi’s can go suck it with him.”
Letterman’s fans average 35 years old, and have been watching him since the late 80′s or earlier. Conan’s fans average 23 years old and could not have seen him on television before 1993.
Whose fans are more likely to be described with the oh-so-achingly-cutting-edge term “fanboi”?
Fallon should go but Letterman seriously needs to be shown the door but heard he’s negotiating with CBS on a 3-year contract extension to stay there until 2013.
Is there some new socialite or singer named Sarah Palin that I don’t know about? Because the commenters above *certainly* couldn’t be trying to defend the former vice-presidential candidate who couldn’t name a single newspaper or magazine off the top of her head.
Right?
…Right??