Which is worse? Network execs too scared to change a successful formula. Or network execs too willing to turn everything on its head. It’s clear that Conan’s version of NBC’s cash cow The Tonight Show is just more of the same old/same old. And that’s how O’Brien’s longtime exec producer Jeff Ross and boss Jeff Zucker want it. But while they were golfing together this weekend in a foursome at Riviera Country Club (Ross, who just moved out here, is the better player, while Zucker has a 14 handicap and can barely keep up), they both worried how to prevent primetime’s The Jay Leno Show from cannibalizing Conan’s late night show this fall. And my info is that it’s already getting ugly.
Leno’s show premieres September 14th. NBC doesn’t want Conan “freaking out” as he’s establishing himself. And the bosses know that booking wars on the same network are a recipe for disaster. So, already, NBC executives have barraged Jay with edicts. The first were the network’s recommendations on which longtime staffers to keep or let go. The network also has demanded that Leno back off booking A-list celebrities because it would encroach on O’Brien’s turf.
You’d think Jeff Zucker and Ben Silverman would have already come up with a solution for this predicament of having two de facto Tonight Shows. But there’s a reason NBC is the 4th-place network, so nooooooooooo. They only know what they don’t want. So these bosses are putting Leno under pressure to think outside the box and help come up with a format significantly different from the one he’s slavishly followed for 17 years. But no one should rely on Jay for that. The last time he had an original idea, it was 1992 and it involved making his manager Helen Kushnick also The Tonight Show‘s executive producer. And we all know how well that turned out.
Most people wrongly attribute the start of Leno’s late night ratings wins to 1995 when he asked Hugh Grant, fresh from his arrest for getting a blow job with a prostitute, ”What the hell were you thinking?”. But actually, in late 1993, Don Ohlmeyer was brought in to lead NBC’s troops to ratings victory. And the first thing this General Patton impersonator did was to retool Jay’s The Tonight Show by overseeing the design of a new set, adding more remote segments, using different camera angles, and recreating the artificial excitement of a comedy club by having people in those first rows pretend to mob Jay. After a see-saw battle with Letterman, Leno became No. 1 in late night.
Problem is, there are no leaders anymore atop NBC. Just pretenders. And, of course, Jay had no idea he’d take a backseat to Conan so soon. (Then again, Zucker sold him a bill of goods to make sure Leno didn’t defect to ABC.) But Leno is the one who’ll get the blame if the new show doesn’t work. Zucker and Silverman have shown they’re Teflon.
So Jay, Jeff, Ben: here’s what you need to do:
Zucker and Silverman keep spinning how NBC is now the Comedy Network. Fine, then make The Jay Leno Show into the Comedy Hour, not the Talking Heads Hour. Yes, Leno is so insecure that he abandoned The Tonight Show‘s long and noble tradition under Johnny Carson of spotlighting the kind of raw stand-up talent who went on to become household names: Jerry Seinfeld, Roseanne Barr, Garry Shandling, Drew Carey, Louie Anderson, Steven Wright, Rita Rudner, Gallagher. (Well, everyone but him…) Bring back that segment. Lengthen it. Reassure Jay that this isn’t an audition for his hosting spot in 2012.
Next, I have one word: raid. Make offers to feature players on Saturday Night Live, sidekicks on NBC and other network/cable sitcoms, and second bananas co-starring in Judd Apatow-type movies, to come on Jay’s show for a week at a time and star in stuff — sketches, skits, spoofs, and other updated but low-brow Carol Burnett Show-type shtick — to help fill time and get Leno through what’s going to be the dragging 10:30 PM to 11 PM half-hour. These young and old and quirky types will be like swigs of Red Bull for the mainstream audience. (With or without the cocaine.)
Finally, rescue Amy Poehler from that loser Parks And Recreation (which I hear may start changing its dreadful mockumentary style) and make her Leno’s permanent sidekick equal. Women love her. And since most guys are too busy playing video games or watching internet porn to even sample Leno in primetime, you’ll need females to tune in. (Just don’t glam up Amy. You morons will make her look like a $10 hooker. Or, worse, Chelsea Handler.) When Jay starts whining like the pussy he is, tell him to man up and shut up.
This is a start. I’m sure DHD commenters will come up with more suggestions.






“Women love her.”
This one doesn’t. I was relieved when she finally left SNL. Let her stay on her Parks show where I can continue to ignore her.
…harsh…
Leno is f@cked! He better tear up that contract and go to ABC today! I understand his willingness to stay with NBC is very honorable- but Geez- its getting stupid now. Nightline is useless- he could kill Conan, ( he’s already slayed Letterman for 17 years – so does he matter? ) This could be an exciting time in Late Night TV – But he’s such a company man that he’s gonna do whatever NBC tells him..That’s a shame cause he could really plant his own flag on ABC.
Hi Nikki,
Isn’t Jay Leno’s audience significantly older, as in the Senior Set? I happen to know of a few seniors back in Middle America who TiVo Leno every night and who “guffaw” over Leno’s-let’s face it-lame, political & topical jokes. Is Leno, who is in danger of becoming a fossil himself (put him in the Smithsonian already) really the right person to being youth back to NBC?
What you’re describing is a bold shake-up and probably not gonna happen. How about letting his show die a slow death, which might embolden Conan to take on some of the changes you described?
You seem to attribute the success of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno to everything but Leno, but if Leno show fails it will fail because no one wants to see a late night show an hour earlier, 5 nights a week.
Leno was successful on The Tonight Show because of Leno. I’m not saying that having great guest don’t help, they help a lot, but The Tonight Show was the ratings winner for years and I don’t think every guest was “must see.” I hope Conan has the same success that Leno had, but you never know.
rip off howard stern some more
it worked for a while.
Leno could also have a “College Spotlight” segment in that half-hour where unknown university based comedy troupes can take a turn making skits after winning some sort of competition (which could promote the show with the college crowd.)
It’ll also be a good chance to mine a fresh vein of young (& cheap) talent for other projects.
As for the raiding, include Second City, Groundlings, and any other theatrical comedy group that might provide the fresh blood the show is going to need.
Plus, Jay needs to shed the insecurity that makes him feel impending doom if the spotlight leaves him for less than a nanosecond. He needs a Harvey Korman to his Carol Burnett to help pick up the slack, or he’ll be burnt out in less than a month.
Is this actually you, Nikki? The voice in this piece is sharp not shrill, satirical not obvious and pompous not arrogant. Well done!
JZ and BS….two wrongs that will never make a Wright.
you want Amy Poehler to become Jay’s Ed McMahon? huh?
Why didn’t they ask Conan to ‘think outside the box’ instead of Jay, the more traditional performer?
It should be the other way around. Have the A-listers on during prime time. The studios will love it – it will help with the traditional Thursday night media onslaught of upcoming weekend releases. Let the edgy comedians come on and innovate on Conan instead. Most of that crowd has connections to Conan’s writing staff anyway.
Tell ‘em to come on down to UCB, all the raw talent you could want waiting for their break.
These are good ideas even if I don’t generally like Jay Leno OR Amy Poehler. It would be nice to have a more down-to-earth alternative to SNL – maybe with less pot-smoking humor. I might even enjoy it every once in a while.
For someone who is not a professional golfer, a 14 handicap is not bad at all.
I take some of this blog with a grain of salt (and I don’t use much sodium/salt). The point is, Jay Leno will be fine and Conan O’brien will be fine in their new timeslots. Maybe Jeff Zucker and Jeff Ross have something to worry about and maybe not. Jeff Zucker and Ben Silverman NEED Jay’s core base and ratings to keep things looking on the positive tip for them as a viable network. Both of them simply could not afford to lose Jay to Fox or ABC. At the same time they might be worried, long term, about Conan’s shelf life and ratings over time too.
Now, if Jay’s ratings go better than Conan’s, well then they will have to suffer the consequences of their actions with both hosts and the environment of late night talk.
Everything will be Ok and so there should be nothing to get so panic stricken and paranoid over until things evolve and find out for themselves if it all works out or not. Just take a wait and see kind of attitude.
Jay Leno just might come out of all of this, the ultimate winner! There is room for both and Jeff Zucker, Ben Silverman, and Jeff Ross need to simply sit back, relax and let things happen!
How can these type of shows do well over time? People want to see stories (ie: hr and 1/2 hr shows) at some point, not ENDLESS network fluff. Between these variety shows and reality, they are just watering down their network. Locking Jay in this time slot also puts an end to any smart ADULT one hr on NBC in the 10:00 hr as long as this show is on. It’s a shame!
Trying to turn The Jay Leno Show into a “comedy of tomorrow” spotlight seems like an oxymoron. No offense to Jay, because I have respect for him as a person, but as a comedian…he’s so old fashioned and out of touch, I’m surprised America has pretended he’s relevant for this long. If this did become a Carol Burnett-style sketch show, it would be just that…muggy, “silly,” and only appealing to an older demo. Hell, look at the “sketches” they tried to do with Jay on the Tonight Show sometimes. The man doesn’t do characters, only muggy facial expressions.
Also, Parks and Recreation will always be higher rated than this thing. Also, taking a star with wattage and making her a sidekick is a bad idea, even hypothetically.
I’ve been saying it for months, Jay won’t work at 10pm. And now, NBC has no development slate in place to back him up should he “drop down to 4 nights a week”, etc.
This could be Jeff Zucker’s undoing, especially if NBC continues at it’s present spot in the ratings war and fails to improve, especially at 10pm.
A 2-hour special and Jay quietly slips off the air, followed by Jay resurfacing as the new in-residence act at Caesar’s followed by a relaunch at 11:30 on ABC for a half hour show – no band, no monologue, just 1 guest and maybe a musical act. Book it – ABC should hire me!
Thank you, Nikki, for pointing out that the Hugh Grant moment was not the only lightning rod for Jay’s turnaround. Additionally, let’s not forget that NBC was in the shitter in prime-time from ’92-94, before their watershed lineup of introducing FRIENDS and ER, plus SEINFELD becoming a monster hit. It gave NBC a better lead-in at the time, and CBS was actually doing great (if not, older demographic) numbers in the early 90′s with MURPHY BROWN, etc. Yeah, yeah, I know people could argue that it’s an even more extreme ratings divide right now with NBC worse off than ever and Jay was still a clear #1, but there are also a lot more choices out there in latenight than there were back then.
Additionally, CBS suffered a gigantically crushing blow in ’94 when New World changed it’s TV station affiliations from CBS to Fox, forcing CBS to scramble to get new, mostly UHF affiliates in some major markets- in some cases, these stations did not even have a local news operation, so the lead-ins to Dave were syndicated re-runs. It instantly leveled the network playing field (and Fox scored NFL around the same time), but Dave’s ratings were a major casualty of that deal.
Yeah, I prefer Letterman to Leno, but I see where the mass appeal for Jay comes from- he worked his ass off and he deserves the success. All I’m saying is that Nikki has it right- the Hugh Grant revisionist history has gotten out of hand.
A 14 Handicap when you have that much money to hire a good swing coach isn’t anything to brag about. If I remember correctly former GM chairman Jack Welch was about a 5 and he didn’t exactly look like the most athletic guy.
But then again, I don’t Zucker should be spending that much time on the links these days. Or maybe he should let his caddie pick NBC’s primetime line up? Might do better than Ben and there’s no where to go but up!
Nikki,
Shame on you for even suggesting Amy Poehler as a mere sidekick. She’s a major comedy talent and while PARKS AND RECREATION has not realized its potential, she’s FAR too talented to be relegated to a second banana job. That said, love your idea about showcasing more comedy talent on Jay’s show. New comedy talent needs more nurturing and only Comedy Central is doing it full-time these days.
This is just my opinion. The only reason Leno garnered more viewers than Dave is because of of “The Tonight Show’s” rich legacy. Anybody will watch anybody host that show as long as “The Tonight Show With____” is in front of their name. Well, Ok..maybe not ANYBODY.
Who under the age of say, 45 is going to watch anything called “The Jay Leno Show.” *Shivers*. Not me.
Jay never mentioned Helen Kushnik in his goodbye speech on his last show. Or in any of the numerous magazine interviews he’s doing lately. I haven’t read them ALL so I could be mistaken.
I was starting to feel a little sorry for Jay after hearing how NBC is treating him, but then I remembered that.
Any truth to rumors that Jay will appear on Dave’s show this summer?
I like the idea of Leno doing more to showcase standup comics. Those are his peeps, and, right now, there’s a dearth of high-quality standup on TV.
Also: now that Leno is freed from the yoke of being sort of in charge of U.S. public opinion, why can’t he go back to being more casual and a little nastier? If he would just act on his show the way he does when he’s a guest on other people’s shows, that would go a long way toward making his new show different from the Tonight Show.
I think something else that would be help would be to have him give up doing the show on Mondays very soon, and eventually to have him stop doing new shows on Fridays. That would probably ease many kinds of pressure, including booking pressure.
Finally: I think it would be awkward for Leno to have Amy as his sidekick if there really is any bad blood between Conan and Leno.
Thanks, Howard Beale for clearing that up. It was always a head scratcher how a buffoon like Leno could’ve overtaken Letterman at that time. Encouraging to know perhaps there aren’t as many moronic viewers as one would’ve thought.
I, for one, will happily stick to my internet porn, thank you very much.
And ps, I don’t know what everyone’s prolem with Chelsea Handler is; of all the latenight shows, hers consistently makes me laugh the loudest.