UPDATE: Twentieth Century Fox execs on Wednesday clarified a few of my details about Wall Street 2. Javier Bardem is not onboard yet, but "he is who we want" to play the stock-shorting hedge fund manager set up in the story as the villain. Oliver Stone hasn't met with him yet, and the studio hasn't negotiated his deal yet. The start date is now at the end of August, not August 10th. And, as of right now, there is no release date although my sources said February 2010 is contemplated. Otherwise, spot on.
EXCLUSIVE: I'm told that screenwriter Allan Loeb (21, Things We Lost In The Fire) will hand in his second draft of the long-awaited Wall Street 2 to 20th Century Fox later this week. (Although the great Stanley Weiser and his film school pal Oliver Stone were credited as writers of the original pic, Stephen Schiff was first to script the sequel.) I heard Loeb's first draft was "so great" that Stone didn't feel the need to touch it -- yet. But no one expects the director to keep hands off on the second draft since principal photography starts on August 10th. The film's release is now planned for February 2010. So here's the oh-so-secret plot of Wall Street 2 and who's playing what:
Michael Douglas, as everyone already knows, reprises his Best Actor Oscar-winning role as Gordon Gekko. But what hasn't been reported is that, as the movie begins, it's 21 years later and Mr. Greed Is Good has finished serving his prison sentence. He finds himself on the fringe of the financial community. ("Kinda like Jim Cramer or Mike Milken after their disgrace," an insider with the pic tells me.) Gekko is cautioning Wall Street that the "end is coming" -- but nobody is listening. So Gordon is obsessed with trying to repair his ruptured relationship with his daughter. That juicy actress role isn't cast yet. (But I'd love it if Oliver had the balls to bring back Sean Young as Mom in spite of their notorious falling out during the filming of the original.)
Enter Shia LaBeouf, who was reported in negotiations and I can now state is set to co-star. (I've said it before, and I'll say it again: one day every Hollywood movie will star this guy who turns 23 on June 11th.) Shia is a young Wall Street trader who's engaged to be married to Gekko's estranged daughter. Shia wants to be a major player, but his mentor unexpectedly kills himself, and Shia thinks a stock-shorting worldwide hedge fund manager is responsible. Shia seeks revenge on this villain, to be played by No Country For Old Men Supporting Actor Oscar-winner Javier Bardem. So Shia goes to Gordon saying, "I need your help", and makes a Faustian deal with Gekko who in return wants Shia's help getting back with the daughter. From then on, it's "antagonism" for everyone, my insider says.
I'm told Wall Street 2's story spans from June 2008 through the federal bailout. "We wanted to see some perspective in the same way that the original dealt with insider trading," a source explains to me. Meanwhile, a long list of Wall Street types are offering their help to make sure the script is accurate. Same thing happened with the original. Jeff "Mad Dog" Beck, then a star investment banker at ill-fated Drexel Burnham Lambert before he was exposed as a fraud, was one of the film's technical advisers and even had a cameo appearance. But Kenneth Lipper, investment banker and former deputy mayor of New York for Finance and Economic Development, did the real heavy lifting: he was hired as chief technical adviser and ensured the film was realistic. Weiser and Stone consulted dozens of Wall Street names for the film.
Finally, an interesting aside: someone associated with the sequel reminded me that Barry Diller, the mogul in charge of 20th Century Fox when Wall Street came out, "hated it" and thought his big award-winning film that year would be Broadcast News, which came to the Oscars with 7 nominations but left empty handed. Whereas Wall Street won a major category. Now comes the sequel, and the news biz is still struggling, but so is the stock market.
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That story sounds HORRIBLE. Gordon Geko has a daughter? And he cares about her? Really? And Shia LaBeouf? Its an insult to mention him in the same sentence as Douglas and Bardam, much less put him on the same screen with them.
“Wall Street” was one of the greatest movies of the 20th century; why tarnish that legacy? If Stone wants to do another movie about avarice in the financial industry, then write a new story with new characters, not a sequel. Clearly this movie will feature bankruptcy, but unfortunately it will be of the artistic variety.
Shia LaBeouf is probably the most uncharismatic young actor currently working. He should be playing the dork sidekick roles not the leading
man roles. I hope he’s not in this film and that people will wake up and
realize that he has no complexity or interesting layers – just a smart-alecky demeanor that works in some movies (i.e. Holes) but not in more
serious roles. Javier Bardem and Michael Douglas will blow him off the
screen – he will feel like an office boy…
Booooorrriiiiing!
$15 million opening weekend, and then oblivion.
Man… I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve seen the movie, but that plot sounds pretty bad, and THINGS WE LOST IN THE FIRE was not well written at all. I don’t have high hopes for this one. I mean, c’mon – Gordon Gekko grows a heart?
The day every Hollywood film stars Shia LaDouche will be the day I stop watching movies.
I only have two concerns about this sequel. One its being made under Tom Rothman’s regime. He’ll demand cuts, a PG-13 rating, shorter running time, change sets, and dumb down the financial lingo so it won’t go over the heads o the 13-25 year old demographic. Two, the speed of the production. I don’ know if Oliver Stone wants it this way or what, but I know his W. was hampered by an accelerated post production schedule. In the end it felt half baked.
Let’s hope for the best, miracles do happen.
Why isn’t Charlie Sheen in it he also went to prison bring back Charlie he was great. Surely there’s a way to put him in this.
Wall Street 2 fails tremendously — especially if they’re considering Shia for a role besides the boy who hands Gekko a bagel. God I hate how hollywood has no idea when to stop. Although I’m sure it’ll be a box-office beast, the quality I’m sure will be horrible.
Forget Sean Young. Stone really should bring back Charlie Sheen for a cameo. Where would his character be now?
I would love to know if Gekko still believes that “greed is good; greed works” given his status and the status of our economy.
Forgive me my internet laziness. I haven’t even gone to Wikipedia. But can someone tell me what Jim Cramer’s “disgrace” was?
I know about the bad advice he’s offered on television, was rendered meek by Jon Stewart, and I know he used to operate a hedge fund (or something). But I don’t recall him ever being in trouble with the law, or falling from grace. So why the comparison to Milkin?
Sheen should play Shia’s murdered mentor.
While Wall Street is a great film – even though it sometimes suffers the de rigueur Stone touches – Broadcast News is the better film. I could see why Diller would stand behind it.
I remember hearing some of these story bits around the time when they were trying to secure Douglas. Sounded okay but nothing exceptional. It still doesn’t read that well from the scant descriptions available. I’d hope it’s better on the script page.
The sad thing is, you imagine that Shia got cast to make the budget – not because he was a good choice. Joseph Gordon-Levitt, well, then you’d think there might be a movie in this worth buying a ticket to – a script people would back even with an edgy cast. With Shia, it’s just now-hacky Oliver Stone flailing around, trying to use his name to stunt-cast his way to another mediocre release. “W.” – except for Brolin’s very interesting performance – was weak sauce. “World Trade Center” was a Hallmark Channel movie. “Alexander” was one step from Uwe Boll. Guys like Shia are still green enough to think They’re Working With Oliver Stone.
Alboone: “Two, the speed of the production. I don’ know if Oliver Stone wants it this way or what, but I know his W. was hampered by an accelerated post production schedule. In the end it felt half baked.”
Stone’s pretty much be doing that his whole career:
* The first “Wall Street” was filmed in the spring of ‘87 and released in December of the same year.
* JFK was filmed in the spring-summer of ‘91 and released that Christmas.
*As was Nixon filmed in the spring and then released on Christmas ‘95.
Notable exceptions would be NBK (took a year to edit) and The Doors (filmed in ‘90, released in ‘91).
But Stone’s always been known for his quick and frenetic shoots.
I’m so surprised that a writer like Oliver Stone can’t see through the hack that is Allan Loeb. Things We Lost in the Fire? The Last Living Boy in New York? Overrated trash. He belongs writing 21, but how about getting a real writer for this?
Same goes for Shia. Guess Stone’s got Scorsese’s problem: either can’t get the financing without these flavors of the month or can’t see past their powerful agents and lack of talent. Oy…
They should turn Gekko into Bernie Madoff. Fresh out of prison he gets back in the game and starts his own hedge fund which turns out to be a pyramid scheme. People hate Madoff…that would have been more timely.
Please can’t Hollywood come up with anything new? I think the dummies who run Hollywood are so frightened on trying anything new because their followers, not leaders. This is playing out on the news everyday. Who cares. Have some imagination PLEASE.
That is lame. Better plot and just mail my check to Michigan before November 2009.
G. Gecko leaves prison wearing a hand woven smock.
He decides that insider trading can pay better if he works his game in Antigua.
He retrieves one billion from his under the ocean safe. Flies to Antigua and battles it out with a guy who has more money and wants Gecko to crash the market so he can buy the derivatives and then push the market back up in six months. Gunshots, drug deals, etc. This time Gordon escapes on Shia’s speedboat before the Feds show up and this father and son duo set up pay day advance shops in the Netherlands. Cut to Gecko and Shia smoking as the sunsets charging local workers 24 percent. Closing shot on a yellow Trans am with black stripes.
Shia LeBouf is not worthy of working at Starbucks, let alone working next to Bardem and Douglas. I mean, just because someone like Michael Bay likes him and a movie does well doesn’t mean Shia is bankable. It means giant robots are bankable. This role should be with Anton Yelchin, James McAvoy, some kid who played a vampire or like ANYONE ELSE! Even Luke Grimes.
We won’t know how well the film will be until it comes. Give it time.
Also, how nice to flame a young actor liked Shia. :/ Give the guy a chance to do something serious than always be known as the dorky kid. You never know…he may be good at it.
Wall Street 2 sounds stupid. Daughter??? What about little “Rudy gazoody!!” The only reason to give Gordon a daughter is to “sex up” the movie. How condescending to women. Shia Leboeuf a big star? I don’t think so. His presence is enough to keep me away.
A few years ago I started writing “Wall Street 2″ because I loved the original and thought it was the perfect time for a sequel (little did I know I was right). My story sees Gordon hasn’t mellowed in prison. His arrogance is replaced with bitterness and plans for revenge. While in prison, he’s been grooming Rudy his son to take his place and when Gordon leaves prison, Rudy is there and the two begin their mayhem. By this time, Bud Fox is President of Bluestar Airlines. I hadn’t thought of the hedge fund angle, but I think that would be the way they stage a comeback and could even been the catalysts for the worldwide collapse of the financial markets.
Any thoughts?
I have to admit being perplexed by the Shia haters…He’s actually a pretty good actor. He’s not wooden and comes across as natural.
It takes some skill to convince anyone that a giant robot is menacing you without the giant robot being available for the actual menacing.(Don’t believe me ask George Lucas)
Yes, he’s got the ’smart ass’ thing down a little too pat but I think the guy has real charisma…although Yelchin would have been really interesting.
Sheen isn’t an option. He’s still po’d at Ollie for giving 4th of July to Tommy. They don’t talk.
Nikki, i really hope you’re wrong on this. You know what it sounds like? It sounds like Wall Street I. but without Gordy Gekko. Now we have Gordy Gekko without himself…….it’s more than boring.
No doubt, this movie will absolutely suck. And unlike most hollywood faire, the people who would be interested in seeing it will actually realize that.
I’m with JENNIFER….”$15 million opening weekend, and then oblivion.”
who plays Madoff?
Doesn’t smell like a blockbuster to me, it just smells. Shia’s there to try and draw in the younger demo, just like he was in Indy 4. This’ll probably be just about as good at Indy 4.
Whats with all the Shia hate? Ignoring all the tabloid crap I happen to like him a lot. He makes interesting just being himself, and that made Transformers watchable whenever the giant robots on screen. That could have been a truly heinous role in less talented hands. Give him a chance, you might be surprised. (Even “Rolling Stone” trashed him in an interview with Joseph Gordon Levitt. Which goes to show how little those hipster sycophants know about anything actually creative.)
As for “Wall Street”……..Sounds like crap and unless the trailer blows me out of my seat I’ll probably save my $12. Everything about this movie just screams big mistake. But then again I was half wrong about “W.” I was expecting a disaster and got something mildly watchable.
O.K. Kathleen,,,,,Condescending to women huh? Do you think a women could be in a movie and MAYBE not be there to (sex up the movie)? Or is that all women are good for? I seem to remember a few women that can really act. Then again, I seem to remember more women who just bitch about things. LIKE YOU……any comments
what about gekko’s son rudy? wouldn’t a scenerio involving him make more sense. i’d like to think he ended up even more ruthless. but maybe i’m just being sentimental.
In watching Shia, one does wonder “where is it coming from?” Personally who knows what he’s like. But his on-screen persona (often) lacks a sincere emotional life. Stone’s not the director to get him engaged there, but maybe he’ll tired the actor out so we can see some honest-to-goodness HUMILITY in his eyes, which to me is what’s missing. It’s the one thing he can’t seem to fake.
this Shia hating is nonsense, losers. he has a screen presence, wit, humor, natural style, charm. he is a household name & he is in his early twenties. why all the hot diretors in H-wood are crazy about him? think about it and get a life!
Rabble rabble, shut up everyone. Sheesh. “It’s gonna be terrible, it’s gonna ruin it blah blah.” How the hell do you know? Why, because it’s got three terrific actors and a script you haven’t read?
There is no shortage of miserable people in this town hoping everyone else fails along with them. And calling other people boring hacks is just irony writ large.
Shia is in with Uncle Stevie over at Dreamworks. Once you’re in with Uncle Stevie, it doesn’t matter how much you suck as an actor. Uncle Stevie makes it all happen.
He shouldn’t be a lead actor. He’s not good on film. Even the public doesn’t get him and there’s starting to be a backlash that he’s in every movie.
But that doesn’t matter as long as Uncle Stevie tells the morons in Hollywood that Shia is “it”.
This plot sounds ridiculous. Using Shia to repair his relationship with his daughter?
Can anyone else say “Crap”. Sounds more like One Tree Hill than Wall Street 2.
Whoever said Wall Street 2 should have been a parallel to the Madoff scandal featuring Gecko was right. The public would have eaten a smartly told loosely based on facts version of that scandal featuring Douglas/Gecko as a Madoff type.
This nonsense with young Shia squiring around the estranged daughter and making deals with Dad is just garbage. It’s more pablum for the masses.
Really sick of it and oh, don’t tell me if you don’t like don’t see it. I won’t see this.
“he is a household name….” A-jay.
A “household name???” I’ll bet not one person in an average hundred can even pronounce his name, let alone know who he is.
I’m downgrading my b.o. opening: 11.5 million and oblivion — have you seen Michael Douglas lately? The Crypt Keeper.
Amber Heard would be perfect for the daughter role, she is very hot right now.
Don’t know what the rewrites have done to it – or how commercial this sequel might be so many years later – but Stephen Schiff’s draft was very, very good.
Once again, not sure where all of the Shia criticism is coming from. Believe it or not he does bring a sincere emotional life to at least a couple of things I’ve seen. Even though I hated Eagle Eye (tremendously stupid which I wouldn’t mind if it were well told) I did find the emotional situation between him and his family rather touching. Same goes for Disturbia. And both of those movies made good money so clearly it wasn’t just advertising and clearly the public does “get him.” But this is a pretty petty town so it doesn’t suprise me when I see a couple of magazines that praised his name two years ago bashing the living crap out of him now. Zac Effron better watch his back, he’s on GQ this year but next it just be US weekly.
Sounds like a weak story. Gekko should exit prison as a bitter man who vows to take back his place as ‘Gekko the Great’. Since when did he have a daugher. He had Rudy Gazoody… If such a picture is created, I would rather they drop the ties to ‘Wall Street’ and not try to usurp the success of the original film. ‘Wall Street’ was film excellence. Smartest film in many years.
This sounds like Basic Instinct 2 all over again. Let it go, guys. You want to do it right, do a new story with new characters. The current movie going generation doesn’t know Gordon Gekko and doesn’t care what film he was a character in 25 years ago. And if he’s not being Gordon Gekko but is instead the kinder gentler version, doubly what’s the point? Start over.
re: LeBouf … Spielberg is his sponsor. Who knows how or why but he put him in everything to get him started. Now he’s in and he’s going to be around for a while. God knows being a good actor isn’t a requirement to make it in this town.
You’re all haters and hacks. You wish you worked in the business. Stop hating and realize this film will kick ass!
Look at Stone’s track record:
10/17/08 W. $25,534,493
8/9/06 World Trade Center $70,278,893
11/24/04 Alexander $34,297,191
12/22/99 Any Given Sunday $75,530,832
10/3/97 U-Turn $6,682,098
12/22/95 Nixon $13,681,765
8/26/94 Natural Born Killers $50,282,766
12/25/93 Heaven and Earth $5,864,949
12/20/91 JFK $70,405,498
3/1/91 The Doors $34,416,893
12/22/89 Born on the Fourth of July $70,001,698
12/23/88 Talk Radio $3,468,572
12/11/87 Wall Street $43,848,069
12/19/86 Platoon $138,530,565
3/5/86 Salvador $1,500,000
Bet you thought there were more hits, huh? Not that money is everything, but it is called show “business” for a reason. Hype, anyone?
if the guy who wrote 21 is writing this, then it will be more of the same on-the-nose, brainless, paint-by-numbers crap hollywood loves to churn out for their sacred 13-25 demographic.
Leighton Meester for the daughter role. She has proven she can play fiesty on Gossip Girl. Just give me the ten percent instead of Megan Silverman.
I think Shia lacks charisma and weight but then again the character probably lacks those, too.
Wall Street is my favorite movie of all time! I am soooo excited that they’re making a Part II.
An interesting story line but I do agree with some that say Gekko is not that type of person who would want to get back with his daughter or anyone for that matter. Afterall, he’s all about greed ($$$). I would have liked to see Bud Fox (Sheen). But my guess is that his character probably moved on and is working with BlueStar as a manager or something.
What I would have wanted to see is Gekko’s spoiled son inheriting his personality/greed and eventually taking everything from his dad leaving his poor old daddy with nothing but a name. The son could be played by Shia. The mother would not be in the picture anymore. With someone like that, she probably moved on to the next billionaire. Darryl Hannah…now I want to know what happened to her. My guess is that she’s either a struggling designer with no more connections (aka Gekko helping her out) or she, too, moved on to the next sugar daddy.
I hope they incorporate scenes of The Hamptons again or any rich area…I like to daydream about these places.
Overall, I’m happy that this movie is being made as I do want to know what ever became of Gordon Gekko.
What happened to Gordon Gekko? Dude. It’s fiction. Whatever you wanted to happened to Gekko, that’s what happened.
Shia and Ben Afleck are about at the same level in terms of acting. The first Wall Street was a classic and really does not need a sequel. Why not do a Platoon 2: State side? Now in Wall Street 2 Gordon is going to play some wuss. Do mafia dons come out of prison and turn into sissies, cmon. Do any of the CEOs or Bernie Madoff for that matter feel sorry for being the greedy beasts that they are, I don’t think so. The plot sounds weak.
THis movie probably suck! Why?
Where’s China?
Where’s the real faces of Wall St.? Chinese (should be major role), Russians, ….
Another f-ing white wash piece of crap with Douglas…
I’m really anticipating this movie. As for Shia, he’s been attacked repeatedly for two years now on the roles he’s taken and he always seems to come through. I don’t know how he takes it though, but he’s a tough kid- he’d have to be. He obviously doesn’t let it affect his work. That’s surely a talent in itself.
Wall Street was a great movie, however, if this sequel had a ticker symbol it would be SHIT.
Oh God this looks like a piece of shit!
You know how “Walker: Texas Ranger” wooden presence kills every scene he is in? When the camera is on him, the movie’s energy grinds to a halt. Well, as long as Shia — whoever he is — does not do the same, he will be fine for this movie.
They should call this Wall Street 2: Saved By The [Closing] Bell
Seriously you lost me at Shia. He’s too young & not weighty enough. Joseph Gordon-Levitt or Emile Hirsh or Lou Taylor Pucci or even go a little older with Peter Saarsgard & that group of actors in their 20s & 30s who do indie dramas. This should be a serious thoughtful cultural critique not more blow shit up Bayhem. The son of Gekko needs to act first & look purty second or else this will tank big time.
Is turning 40 (or older) something people in Hollywood are morbidly fearful of? Because the potential audiences outside LA & NYC aren’t so damned ageist. By definition the crowd old enough to remember the first film whose brand they want to trade on are pretty near 40 or older than that. Sheesh.
Casting people who look like perpetual high schoolers and don’t bring much in the way of acting experience in non-tentpoles in something like this is a huge mistake…the 14-24 crowd is not the base for this kind of project.
2 words, baby, and you can forget all about shia. ready? “jim carrey”. i see ace ventura as having branched out; running a hedge fund; and he and gekko duel to the death in the dark canyons of lower manhattan. as far as gekko pining away for his daughter, gimme a break. gekko’s got balls of titanium, and if that spoiled little ingrate doesn’t want him in her life, BFD. hell, he may even try to have her *whacked*, and carrey could climb out of an elephant’s butt to save her.
either that or make gekko having fallen so far down he’s reduced to being shift manager at a mickey D’s, and seth green is the wunderkind boss who delights in tormenting him. questions his manhood. makes him steal burger king’s top-secret chicken sandwich recipe.
stone needs to give it a rest…
Allan Loeb is overhyped. But he has been annointed some writing God by the studios. Hype away. This story sounds ridiculously simplistic and like a Spanish soap opera. Gekko’s daughter has the idiocy to date a stockbroker when she is a estranged from her stockbroker dad? When this career choice has ruined her life? Sounds pretty unbelievable. What is she — a moron? Things We Lost in the Fire was melodramatic too. Oy vey.
Nice! was that real life story?
Forget about Wall Street 2. What about the Heathers sequel that Winona Ryder has been blabbing about??
all knowing Gekko he’s probaly using the daughter to get to someone or something
Comment by Kathleen Martino – I actually like that idea. Where the daughter comes into play I don’t know. He didn’t have one in the last movie, maybe he knocked up Sean Young before he went to the penn, who knows? It’s a transparent attempt to sex up the flick. Wall Street 2 could work if Bud Fox and Gekko go at it again in a financial cat and mouse thriller. If Shia was cast as Rudy, then I’d buy it. But the current plot just sounds way too contrived and flat.
I think most of the comments written about
Wall Street 2 are premature. Wait until the movie comes out before bashing it. What I will say is that Shia is a talented actor and those of you who think he lacks charisma, well I believe you are wrong. I have seen most of his movies, and he has star quality. He was good in “Disturbia” and great in “Eagle Eye”. I even liked his character in “Transformers”. He’s young, only 23, but he has conviction and is able to take a role and run with it. Give the young man a chance to prove all of you non-believers are wrong!
you guys have to give the hate a rest. i’ve read the script and it’s pretty solid. the daughter reunion subplot isn’t as contrived as many commentators here think and Gekko is still very much Gekko.
the only problem is the shia character because it’s obvious that the role was indeed written for him. both the role and actor are too young for the movie; but the writing is solid enough to compensate.
the draft i read has great potential especially if bardem is playing the lead antagonist. so rest assured haters; as long as Stone and especially Fox don’t fuck it up (which fox most likely will), it could make for a decent follow-up.
I always heard Stan Weiser’s co-writing sister (uncredited) had lots to do with that first film’s solid script.
well i think shia will do an amazing job as he is very tanlented in the way that you understand him and get his character i think he will do great as he ALWAYS does no matter what person he is playing!!!
Shia has that incredibly annoying sense of humor that is not funny at all. He tries so hard to play the funny guy, yet he comes across as a weak actor.
Plus, has anyone realized that he basically plays the same character in every single movie he does ? The personality is always the same.
As a young portfolio manager myself who loved the first movie, I must say that both Shia’s choice and the lame story disappoint me a lot.
What a waste, so much could have been done with this movie with what’s going on with the industry, yet they are chosing to go towards the father-daughter story.
Seriously, what a waste.
Lot of these comments can be instantly disregarded, especially ones stating this film will be NG, for the very simple reason that Stone is a great filmmaker, with at least 3 great films under his belt by my count and I’m a tough grader. As for Shea, I know he is the flavor of the week, but beyond that I can’t comment about his worth as an actor, becauseI don’t think I’ve ever seen him in anything. (I did read he refused a breathaizer test after a near fatal auto accident, so my view of him otherwise – - not so good).
As for “Money Never Sleeps” (Great title) potential is over the moon with interest worldwide, will just depend on Stone at his audacious and creative best (Think NBK).
i don’t know what you guys are not going to like in Wall Street 2, for me.. i can’t wait to see Javier Bardem in this movie.
Daughter? What happened to Gekko’s french-speaking son? He should be around 20 years old now, yes? What’s going to be the story there? Is the baby from Damien? Daryl hated the role so much, I know she wont be reprising her role.
And damn it — call CHARLIE SHEEN AND BRING HIM BACK! And the guy from Scrubs!
Sean Stone should reprise Rudy.
Stone needs to leave this project where it is. dead already. What he needs to do is polish up that script on Manuel Noriega. I think a lot of Americans would enjoy knowing that Noriega was importing drugs to the states with the full blessing of Bush Sr and when Noriega wanted more US Aircrafts to haul more dope, Bush ordered Southern Command to kill him. Noriega is only alive today because SC told Bush to F Off.
Now that’s a movie worth shooting and watching.
Shoot wall street 2 and get bashed and burned.
shoot Manuel Noriega and get oscar gold… again.
The idea sucks. Gekko trying to get back with his daughter? Ridiculous. Stone can’t make good movies anymore. He’s delusional.
Please have Charlie Sheen return; pay him what he wants; I love nostalgia.
I am waiting until I see the movie in order to pass judgement. Also, I am a big fan of Shia LaBeouf, and am eager to see if he can measure up to the other actors.
I think the movie sounds great. I’m know I’m just a middle class average working mom who’s got lots of opinions, but I’m pulling for a realistic accounting of the fraud.
I’m hoping one of my favorites on this issue, Patrick Byrne, gets a call for some advice too. He’s all over this mess.
They are filming in Jersey City over the weekend. They have set up shop in the Charter school in the Hamilton Park area and also on Washington St by the Path train and Citi building.
So Gekko isnt crazy and Wall Street 2 is being shot in Jersey City?? How things have changed
The only thing that could get me to see this movie is if Sean Young had a sizable role. She’d be great as the embittered ex wife of Gecko, and for anybody who’s seen “Cousins” she plays bitch well. What will it take to get her off TV and back up on the screen?
First off, the Michael Douglass character, Gecko, is a smart cookie.
He would have transferred million into offshore accounts before heading off to prison. And really twenty years in jail for insider trading. The max would have been 4 to 5 years with some restitution.
The movie Wall Street 2 could have been better as Gecko finding redemption as the main character instead of more Wall Street shenanigans with Shia Lebouf.
Shia LeBouf is not a good actor. Maybe he will become one, but I am not holding my breath.
The idea of a sequel to Wall Street is pretty pointless. The original film said all it had to say. Moralizing and preaching a good film will not make (as Yoda would have it).
—More interesting by far would be an unflinching
Stone flick on Hollywood’s decades long financial
enmeshmentwith the most awesoly genocidal regime
history has EVER seen —across the Pacific.
70 million murdered in ‘peacetime’ in the name
of ’social progress’ -unoutted and unanswered for
while ALLLL of Hollywood grovels for cheap credit
and VAST market access from the direct and unrepentant
heirs of the killers —STONE COLD TRUTH.
Amen
—iT’S 2010. WHY is our ‘born into the comfortable class’
former Yalie and ‘daring rebel outsider’ boring us with still
another retread of his decades stale original?
Meanwhile, Hollywood and business have been financially
strip-mining and selling-out to the most awesome and unrepentant
genocidal regime in history —across the Pacific.
WHEN oh when will STONE outgrow his rutted, upper middle-class,
utterly damned and discredited Leftist world view?
WHEN?
I cant believe this crap you people are saying about this movie.I cant imagine a better actor to play a sidekick to gekko then shia! If you are in the stock biz then this is the movie you have been waiting for. This movie can change your life like the original did.