UPDATE: Twentieth Century Fox execs on Wednesday clarified a few of my details about Wall Street 2. Javier Bardem is not onboard yet, but “he is who we want” to play the stock-shorting hedge fund manager set up in the story as the villain. Oliver Stone hasn’t met with him yet, and the studio hasn’t negotiated his deal yet. The start date is now at the end of August, not August 10th. And, as of right now, there is no release date although my sources said February 2010 is contemplated. Otherwise, spot on.
EXCLUSIVE: I’m told that screenwriter Allan Loeb (21, Things We Lost In The Fire) will hand in his second draft of the long-awaited Wall Street 2 to 20th Century Fox later this week. (Although the great Stanley Weiser and his film school pal Oliver Stone were credited as writers of the original pic, Stephen Schiff was first to script the sequel.) I heard Loeb’s first draft was “so great” that Stone didn’t feel the need to touch it — yet. But no one expects the director to keep hands off on the second draft since principal photography starts on August 10th. The film’s release is now planned for February 2010. So here’s the oh-so-secret plot of Wall Street 2 and who’s playing what:
Michael Douglas, as everyone already knows, reprises his Best Actor Oscar-winning role as Gordon Gekko. But what hasn’t been reported is that, as the movie begins, it’s 21 years later and Mr. Greed Is Good has finished serving his prison sentence. He finds himself on the fringe of the financial community. (“Kinda like Jim Cramer or Mike Milken after their disgrace,” an insider with the pic tells me.) Gekko is cautioning Wall Street that the “end is coming” — but nobody is listening. So Gordon is obsessed with trying to repair his ruptured relationship with his daughter. That juicy actress role isn’t cast yet. (But I’d love it if Oliver had the balls to bring back Sean Young as Mom in spite of their notorious falling out during the filming of the original.)
Enter Shia LaBeouf, who was reported in negotiations and I can now state is set to co-star. (I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: one day every Hollywood movie will star this guy who turns 23 on June 11th.) Shia is a young Wall Street trader who’s engaged to be married to Gekko’s estranged daughter. Shia wants to be a major player, but his mentor unexpectedly kills himself, and Shia thinks a stock-shorting worldwide hedge fund manager is responsible. Shia seeks revenge on this villain, to be played by No Country For Old Men Supporting Actor Oscar-winner Javier Bardem. So Shia goes to Gordon saying, “I need your help”, and makes a Faustian deal with Gekko who in return wants Shia’s help getting back with the daughter. From then on, it’s “antagonism” for everyone, my insider says.
I’m told Wall Street 2‘s story spans from June 2008 through the federal bailout. “We wanted to see some perspective in the same way that the original dealt with insider trading,” a source explains to me. Meanwhile, a long list of Wall Street types are offering their help to make sure the script is accurate. Same thing happened with the original. Jeff “Mad Dog” Beck, then a star investment banker at ill-fated Drexel Burnham Lambert before he was exposed as a fraud, was one of the film’s technical advisers and even had a cameo appearance. But Kenneth Lipper, investment banker and former deputy mayor of New York for Finance and Economic Development, did the real heavy lifting: he was hired as chief technical adviser and ensured the film was realistic. Weiser and Stone consulted dozens of Wall Street names for the film.
Finally, an interesting aside: someone associated with the sequel reminded me that Barry Diller, the mogul in charge of 20th Century Fox when Wall Street came out, “hated it” and thought his big award-winning film that year would be Broadcast News, which came to the Oscars with 7 nominations but left empty handed. Whereas Wall Street won a major category. Now comes the sequel, and the news biz is still struggling, but so is the stock market.
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Doesn’t smell like a blockbuster to me, it just smells. Shia’s there to try and draw in the younger demo, just like he was in Indy 4. This’ll probably be just about as good at Indy 4.
Whats with all the Shia hate? Ignoring all the tabloid crap I happen to like him a lot. He makes interesting just being himself, and that made Transformers watchable whenever the giant robots on screen. That could have been a truly heinous role in less talented hands. Give him a chance, you might be surprised. (Even “Rolling Stone” trashed him in an interview with Joseph Gordon Levitt. Which goes to show how little those hipster sycophants know about anything actually creative.)
As for “Wall Street”……..Sounds like crap and unless the trailer blows me out of my seat I’ll probably save my $12. Everything about this movie just screams big mistake. But then again I was half wrong about “W.” I was expecting a disaster and got something mildly watchable.
O.K. Kathleen,,,,,Condescending to women huh? Do you think a women could be in a movie and MAYBE not be there to (sex up the movie)? Or is that all women are good for? I seem to remember a few women that can really act. Then again, I seem to remember more women who just bitch about things. LIKE YOU……any comments
what about gekko’s son rudy? wouldn’t a scenerio involving him make more sense. i’d like to think he ended up even more ruthless. but maybe i’m just being sentimental.
In watching Shia, one does wonder “where is it coming from?” Personally who knows what he’s like. But his on-screen persona (often) lacks a sincere emotional life. Stone’s not the director to get him engaged there, but maybe he’ll tired the actor out so we can see some honest-to-goodness HUMILITY in his eyes, which to me is what’s missing. It’s the one thing he can’t seem to fake.
this Shia hating is nonsense, losers. he has a screen presence, wit, humor, natural style, charm. he is a household name & he is in his early twenties. why all the hot diretors in H-wood are crazy about him? think about it and get a life!
Rabble rabble, shut up everyone. Sheesh. “It’s gonna be terrible, it’s gonna ruin it blah blah.” How the hell do you know? Why, because it’s got three terrific actors and a script you haven’t read?
There is no shortage of miserable people in this town hoping everyone else fails along with them. And calling other people boring hacks is just irony writ large.
Shia is in with Uncle Stevie over at Dreamworks. Once you’re in with Uncle Stevie, it doesn’t matter how much you suck as an actor. Uncle Stevie makes it all happen.
He shouldn’t be a lead actor. He’s not good on film. Even the public doesn’t get him and there’s starting to be a backlash that he’s in every movie.
But that doesn’t matter as long as Uncle Stevie tells the morons in Hollywood that Shia is “it”.
This plot sounds ridiculous. Using Shia to repair his relationship with his daughter?
Can anyone else say “Crap”. Sounds more like One Tree Hill than Wall Street 2.
Whoever said Wall Street 2 should have been a parallel to the Madoff scandal featuring Gecko was right. The public would have eaten a smartly told loosely based on facts version of that scandal featuring Douglas/Gecko as a Madoff type.
This nonsense with young Shia squiring around the estranged daughter and making deals with Dad is just garbage. It’s more pablum for the masses.
Really sick of it and oh, don’t tell me if you don’t like don’t see it. I won’t see this.
“he is a household name….” A-jay.
A “household name???” I’ll bet not one person in an average hundred can even pronounce his name, let alone know who he is.
I’m downgrading my b.o. opening: 11.5 million and oblivion — have you seen Michael Douglas lately? The Crypt Keeper.
Amber Heard would be perfect for the daughter role, she is very hot right now.
Don’t know what the rewrites have done to it – or how commercial this sequel might be so many years later – but Stephen Schiff’s draft was very, very good.
Once again, not sure where all of the Shia criticism is coming from. Believe it or not he does bring a sincere emotional life to at least a couple of things I’ve seen. Even though I hated Eagle Eye (tremendously stupid which I wouldn’t mind if it were well told) I did find the emotional situation between him and his family rather touching. Same goes for Disturbia. And both of those movies made good money so clearly it wasn’t just advertising and clearly the public does “get him.” But this is a pretty petty town so it doesn’t suprise me when I see a couple of magazines that praised his name two years ago bashing the living crap out of him now. Zac Effron better watch his back, he’s on GQ this year but next it just be US weekly.
Sounds like a weak story. Gekko should exit prison as a bitter man who vows to take back his place as ‘Gekko the Great’. Since when did he have a daugher. He had Rudy Gazoody… If such a picture is created, I would rather they drop the ties to ‘Wall Street’ and not try to usurp the success of the original film. ‘Wall Street’ was film excellence. Smartest film in many years.
This sounds like Basic Instinct 2 all over again. Let it go, guys. You want to do it right, do a new story with new characters. The current movie going generation doesn’t know Gordon Gekko and doesn’t care what film he was a character in 25 years ago. And if he’s not being Gordon Gekko but is instead the kinder gentler version, doubly what’s the point? Start over.
re: LeBouf … Spielberg is his sponsor. Who knows how or why but he put him in everything to get him started. Now he’s in and he’s going to be around for a while. God knows being a good actor isn’t a requirement to make it in this town.
You’re all haters and hacks. You wish you worked in the business. Stop hating and realize this film will kick ass!
Look at Stone’s track record:
10/17/08 W. $25,534,493
8/9/06 World Trade Center $70,278,893
11/24/04 Alexander $34,297,191
12/22/99 Any Given Sunday $75,530,832
10/3/97 U-Turn $6,682,098
12/22/95 Nixon $13,681,765
8/26/94 Natural Born Killers $50,282,766
12/25/93 Heaven and Earth $5,864,949
12/20/91 JFK $70,405,498
3/1/91 The Doors $34,416,893
12/22/89 Born on the Fourth of July $70,001,698
12/23/88 Talk Radio $3,468,572
12/11/87 Wall Street $43,848,069
12/19/86 Platoon $138,530,565
3/5/86 Salvador $1,500,000
Bet you thought there were more hits, huh? Not that money is everything, but it is called show “business” for a reason. Hype, anyone?
if the guy who wrote 21 is writing this, then it will be more of the same on-the-nose, brainless, paint-by-numbers crap hollywood loves to churn out for their sacred 13-25 demographic.
Leighton Meester for the daughter role. She has proven she can play fiesty on Gossip Girl. Just give me the ten percent instead of Megan Silverman.
I think Shia lacks charisma and weight but then again the character probably lacks those, too.
Wall Street is my favorite movie of all time! I am soooo excited that they’re making a Part II.
An interesting story line but I do agree with some that say Gekko is not that type of person who would want to get back with his daughter or anyone for that matter. Afterall, he’s all about greed ($$$). I would have liked to see Bud Fox (Sheen). But my guess is that his character probably moved on and is working with BlueStar as a manager or something.
What I would have wanted to see is Gekko’s spoiled son inheriting his personality/greed and eventually taking everything from his dad leaving his poor old daddy with nothing but a name. The son could be played by Shia. The mother would not be in the picture anymore. With someone like that, she probably moved on to the next billionaire. Darryl Hannah…now I want to know what happened to her. My guess is that she’s either a struggling designer with no more connections (aka Gekko helping her out) or she, too, moved on to the next sugar daddy.
I hope they incorporate scenes of The Hamptons again or any rich area…I like to daydream about these places.
Overall, I’m happy that this movie is being made as I do want to know what ever became of Gordon Gekko.
What happened to Gordon Gekko? Dude. It’s fiction. Whatever you wanted to happened to Gekko, that’s what happened.
Shia and Ben Afleck are about at the same level in terms of acting. The first Wall Street was a classic and really does not need a sequel. Why not do a Platoon 2: State side? Now in Wall Street 2 Gordon is going to play some wuss. Do mafia dons come out of prison and turn into sissies, cmon. Do any of the CEOs or Bernie Madoff for that matter feel sorry for being the greedy beasts that they are, I don’t think so. The plot sounds weak.
THis movie probably suck! Why?
Where’s China?
Where’s the real faces of Wall St.? Chinese (should be major role), Russians, ….
Another f-ing white wash piece of crap with Douglas…
I’m really anticipating this movie. As for Shia, he’s been attacked repeatedly for two years now on the roles he’s taken and he always seems to come through. I don’t know how he takes it though, but he’s a tough kid- he’d have to be. He obviously doesn’t let it affect his work. That’s surely a talent in itself.
Wall Street was a great movie, however, if this sequel had a ticker symbol it would be SHIT.
Oh God this looks like a piece of shit!