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Twentieth Century Props in North Hollywood is giving up because of the recession and Hollywood labor strife after almost 4 decades in the biz. The owner told the Los Angeles Daily News his vast inventory used in some of the biggest movies and TV shows will be auctioned off over four days in July. The collection includes the 20th Century Fox Studio prop department that was bought in 1994. Among the items are facades from Independence Day and Titanic. "I expect collectors will have a field day tripping over themselves for some of these things," said the owner.
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The owner should figure out a way to hold on now that SAG has a deal.
The WGA and SAG should be ordered to pay retribution to this prop house. While the unions squabble over scraps (yes I know you’re fighting for nickels & dimes more on contracts — yawn!) businesses have closed their doors. People have lost homes. Families have been decimated. It’s really been a selfish pursuit fueled by greed. I hope some of you who were hell bent on a work stoppage finally understand this. Billions of dollars have been lost all for your ridiculous agendas! It is, quite frankly, despicable!!!
Jeez, four decades? I think longer since the company was founded by Leon Schelesinger, producer of the original Looney Tunes cartoons. A very sad day.
This is just sad. So many people left holding the bag while the moguls sing and dance their way to the bank…
Whoa. How sad!
And the actors are upset because they’ve “given in” and are going to be “losing so much money” because of the contract they just FINALLY signed.
If the ones who have been saying that would realize how much money they’ve already lost, how much money the rest of us have lost and the lives that have been immeasurably affected by their continued insistence of wanting MORE….maybe this will be proof of how much their actions (or lack there of) has affected more than just themselves. A 40 year old Hollywood establishment is now having to close it’s doors. And now all those people will lose their jobs too.
Yeah, the recession hasn’t helped up. But one thing that has always been true is that the Entertainment Business is recession-proof.
Maybe one day too they’ll realize that movies and TV can’t be made with any single one of the crafts involved…not JUST the almighty actors. And that includes all vendors and companies who provide us the equipment, gear and props to do so.
Face it people – Johnny Depp would look pretty stupid walking into a bank…oh, hell, a flat stage with no walls, lighting or set dressing and yelling “pow, pow, pow, this is a hold up” with his finger stretched out in front of him to hold up a bank in the upcoming Dillenger movie!
Sorry for digressing. But it is all interrelated. We all need to remember that we should be in this together. One of the greatest TEAM effort industries in this world is making a movie. And we have to all protect all of our teammates.
Hold on a second, hasn’t he listened to the ‘Vote Yes’ crowd, we’re all heading back to work… unless that was a lie of course.
Last guy out turn off the “Hollywood” sign.
Titanic stuff is from a traveling museum show regarding the Titanic. Nothing from the blockbuster movie and/or the actual boat. Nobody is going to trip overthemselves buying it.
This is a crying shame. As a Production Designer and Property Master I shopped there for years. Their stock was wonderful and deep. They will be missed.
“Twentieth Century Props in North Hollywood is giving up because of the recession and Hollywood labor strife after almost 4 decades in the biz.”
No …I don’t think so
It is called OUT-SOURCING of American Film jobs!!
“And the actors are upset because they’ve “given in” and are going to be “losing so much money” because of the contract they just FINALLY signed.
If the ones who have been saying that would realize how much money they’ve already lost, how much money the rest of us have lost and the lives that have been immeasurably affected by their continued insistence of wanting MORE…”
Yes, and General Motors went bankrupt due to spoiled-rotten assembly line workers who don’t know the meaning of “enough.” If only more middle class workers would follow their employers’ leads and just take what has been dictat–uh, “negotiated,” we wouldn’t be seeing so many good companies going under.
Of course, this could have nothing to do with gross mismanagement and ridiculous pricing
@ Lisa:
It was about a fair contract, not wanting “more”.
Hey, all you yes voters — you’re going back to work, right? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
SUCKERS.
This industry has always been an extreme micro model of the global economic structure. It is no longer about artistry it is about greed. Those above the line need to stand on those below the line. Above the line is happy to steal from those they stand on. When they fall, they find someone else to do the same job for less, and in case you haven’t been to the movies lately, they are willing to sacrifice quality of all the crafts to put more in their own pockets. They don’t care about the houses lost, and the families suffering as long as they have their houses and their families. I’ll tell you what might justify what both sides want, let the producers come in early to open up lighting and sound. Let the actors do their own make up, hair, wardrobe and props. That should save them some money cause by now many of us have figured out some other way to make a living, without all the drama.
Well, another fine example of LA shooting itself in the foot. Hollywood is just a state of mind. The industry has left town already. No one has the guts to admit it.
Comparing Hollywood businesses to General Motors is funny. They went bankrupt because they were producing inferior product and their execs were fiddling while Rome burned. And I doubt you’ll find any members of the Auto Workers Union identifying or sympathizing with SAG. The work will return…slowly. Whatever “recession proof” edge our industry had going into the economic free fall was lost due to the stagnation caused by the year long “Custer’s Last Stand” led by SAG’s leadership.
At the end of the day, everybody lost. Now it’s time to stop the vitriol and realize that we all have to find a way to work together…no one element of a production is more important than another. It’s a team effort, as someone observed above. There is no room for bitterness or Schadenfeude. It’s going to be a weird, uncomfortable feeling being on set and wondering if any of our actors are from this negative pool of posters.
Did I miss the memo in which the conglomerate executives ceded control of setting production schedules to actors, writers & other talent?
Because last I checked the overpaid adolescent boy-men with poor taste and an unhealthy obsession with attracting the audience demographic male aged 16-24 and NO ONE ELSE to the ‘product’ are still in charge of the asylum that Hollywood has become. And as employees in just one division of a multi-national conglomerate it stops being about making movies or TV shows and all about the profit margins, by any means necessary.
If the ancillary businesses like prop houses & VFX houses and their soon to be unemployed workers want to get pissy with someone, they should be railing at the monstrously big AMPTP members for not buying up their employers (with other people’s money natch) when they were on their latest M&A bender. It wasn’t writers or actors or the directors that stuck them with their portion of the excrement sandwich. The fish rots from the head.
Maybe you all have missed the study that says that about 75% of viewers are unhappy with the ‘content’ on broadcast & cable TV. I’m no Harvard MBA but when that many people don’t like what you make, I think you’re going to have a hard time making money with your ‘product’, especially when the entertainment division is saddled to the max with bad debt, not just entertainment & media bad debt but the bad debt of all the other divisions of the entire conglomerate. There aren’t enough superheroes and enough big box office receipts to rescue the execs from themselves and their profligate peers.
I’m sorry that these businesses are going down, but when you hitch your tugboat to the Titanic, you’re lucky if you don’t sink with them.
That said there’s still an audience for entertainment of the kind Hollywood is capable of making, but it’s going to be on a different scale for a while. You have to earn the right to be big and keep working and earning to support the size of the institution…magic money shuffling tricks are not sustainable and woe to all of us who were seduced into dependence on them…this entertainment industry crash was forseeable to anyone not blinded by greed or stupidity.
Nobody remembers the slow down from 2001 and 2002. No it wasn’t just 9/11. It was that the film and television business had prepared for a strike that never came. This time around, they did the same thing. Sure the writers strike was different, but part of this slow down was inevitable.
Only problem is that financing also dried up. Read above in the rules for Indies. It is all financing – and there are a couple of mentions about how much harder it is to get this or that. Hell, Spielberg scrambled for months to get his new financing deal.
You also have competition for the business being done. We here in NY saw a lot more work. Series being shot in four other states I know of, as well as Canada. Eastern Europe, New Zealand are seriously considered for much of the work. Reality television (speaking of which, now one of their producers has a set up to do post production in New Zealand and is urging nets that buy his stuff to let him use it to save dollars according to an interview in the HR.)
Just consider that very little of this is about the non-actors strike, and a lot of it is about the current business model for film and television production and the overall economic picture.
How about a deal, if Hollywood sees a big increase in production in the next six weeks beyond television production that would have started whether the contract was ratified was not, I for one, will apologize for doubting all the people who said the actors were killing Hollywood. If not, how about some of you stop blaming them, and start blaming the AMPTP and the bank/finance industry for the hole we are in.
I’m not an big fan of SAG. Not because of their fight with the AMPTP, which I understood and agreed with in large part, but because of what I perceive as a lack of coherent strategy during the year-long negotiations.
That said, I think actors (and also the often-mentioned recession) are only a small part of the reason for the current slowdown of productions in L.A. which caused 20th Century Props to call it quits. The elephant in the room that no one is talking about, except for a couple of posters, is RUNAWAY PRODUCTIONS. I firmly believe that it is what’s really killing us. We have enjoyed and taken “Hollywood” for granted for 60+ years and never thought it could be taken away from us. We were wrong. The tax incentives programs offered by 30 or so other states are what’s causing this massive relocation of productions. And until producers/studios have a financial motivation to come back to California, they simply won’t. Right now, they’re only too happy to see all these elected officials from all these competing states trying to one-up each other by voting for larger and larger tax refunds bills.
California is broke and can’t compete. The recent incentive program put in place by our Governor is, IMHO, too little, too late to make a difference. The only reasons, I believe, productions will come back here is that 1) the other states offering incentives run out of cash or 2)their legislature, after studying the numbers, come to the conclusion that the programs are not worth it.
Until then, it doesn’t matter if shows are AFTRA or SAG or non-unions. Producers will look at their bottom line and go wherever it will be the least expensive to shoot.
Almost laid off myself.
Two words- reality TV.
Please don’t blame the SAG membership. Like everyone else, we’ve been held hostage by our stupid-ass leaders and the very strident but very small VOTE NO (22%) MINORITY that posts here non-stop.
As you can see by how we voted – the VAST majority of us in SAG just wanted to get back to work too. Just be thankful we were FINALLY given our chance to vote!!