This was emailed to me by a Bandslam insider who’s also a prominent filmmaker (and asked to be anonymous) in response to my box office report that the Walden Media/Summit Entertainment pic had a disastrous $2.3M weekend despite great reviews, and that the marketing/packaging was so young that moviegoers thought it was High School Musical when it was closer to School Of Rock:
“Isn’t there a story here? Death by marketing? A movie that gets 80% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes — 90% from top critics — won’t see the light of day because Summit consistently made some of the worst choices, and their core audience summarily dismissed the movie without seeing it based on their sale.
Start off with the fact that they chose BANDSLAM for a title instead of WILL. They thought WILL was too indie. But that’s what made this movie special. It was an indie voice wrapped up in a high concept. So, instead of selling it quirky and cool (a la Juno) they sold it on the Disney channel’s Vanessa Hudgens and Aly Milchaka. Instead of selling the concept, band of outcasts like The Commitments, they Disneyfied this movie with glitter paint. So what is an ironic, smart script with a killer soundtrack was sold like High School Musical meets Phil Of The Future. Instead of embracing it for its quirky-ness, for its unique voice (Will, the lead, calls high school “Guantanamo Bay with a lunch period”) they flattened it out so it looked like everything else. There have been literally dozens and dozens of calls today and e-mails from heads of marketing at different studios saying this may be singly the worst job they’ve ever seen on a movie whose unique voice deserved to be heard through positioning, title, marketing tie-ins, and knowing your audience. But Rob Freidman and Summit infantalized their audience. They presumed that since HSM was a hit, and the same star was in their movie singing, they should just sell it the same way.
Nancy Kirkpatrick took instructions from Rob. He had this idea in his head to sell it with the Disney slant, and no one could sway him. People tried, trust me. They knew the movie tested through the roof but the materials didn’t. And still he was bullish. He’s just so fucking arrogant. The real problem was that this was [Walden Media] Cary Granat’s baby and when he was let go, and Alex Schwartz was let go – the project got taken over by Summit. Eric Feig was in the middle of TWILIGHT, so it became Rob’s baby. He saw Vanessa singing and he could only could think of one way to sell it. The only problem is, she’s not playing Gabriella from HSM. She’s playing a dark, monotone goth character. And she’s really pretty good. But you wouldn’t know it by the ads. They should have let the audience re-discover her as this Aly Sheedy, Breakfast Club, freak, but instead, they found shots of her smiling, and sold it on that. And even though the movie was so NOT Disney. You’ve got lines like “A Nuremburg rally produced by MTV”, and a whole section that takes place in an abandoned CBGB’s talking about The Killers, The Sex Pistols, Black Flag, The Police, and U2. I mean, come on, this is NOT High School Musical. You’ve got a kid obsessed with David Bowie, writing him letters throughout the movie.
Look at the comments you got in your own section on this, the movie deserved to be seen. Todd Graff wrote and directed a beautiful lyrical film with a killer soundtrack that the Hollywood Reporter critic compared to a cross between Cameron Crowe and John Hughes. Read the Washington Post review. It’s crazy making.
For what it’s worth, Rob is very contrite now. He’s apologizing to everyone. Tail between his legs, that kind of thing. But as the reality hits, it’s too little, way too late. Heartbreaking.
Shame on them. The movie’s good. It deserved a chance.”
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“Isn’t there a story here? Death by marketing? A movie that gets 80% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes — 90% from top critics — won’t see the light of day because Summit consistently made some of the worst choices, and their core audience summarily dismissed the movie without seeing it based on their sale.
Start off with the fact that they chose BANDSLAM for a title instead of WILL. They thought WILL was too indie. But that’s what made this movie special. It was an indie voice wrapped up in a high concept. So, instead of selling it quirky and cool (a la Juno) they sold it on the Disney channel’s Vanessa Hudgens and Aly Milchaka. Instead of selling the concept, band of outcasts like The Commitments, they Disneyfied this movie with glitter paint. So what is an ironic, smart script with a killer soundtrack was sold like High School Musical meets Phil Of The Future. Instead of embracing it for its quirky-ness, for its unique voice (Will, the lead, calls high school “Guantanamo Bay with a lunch period”) they flattened it out so it looked like everything else. There have been literally dozens and dozens of calls today and e-mails from heads of marketing at different studios saying this may be singly the worst job they’ve ever seen on a movie whose unique voice deserved to be heard through positioning, title, marketing tie-ins, and knowing your audience. But Rob Freidman and Summit infantalized their audience. They presumed that since HSM was a hit, and the same star was in their movie singing, they should just sell it the same way.

movie was cooler than any kid movie out there. Great soundtrack, too. But check it out – Todd Graff, Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas – how did you let them call your movie Bandslam? I mean, don’t you have mouths? I’m just sayin… You had to approve the title, right?
why write it off so quickly? If it plays so well, then summit should keep advertising it, with reviews and different trailers. there’s not much coming out in the next month. sounds like they owe the filmmakers that much. at least.
Why does Hollywood have an almost involuntary need to piss on vulnerable talent? Always they smugly pull the Tonya Harding.
A question for the ages, never to be answered.
Could John Hughes even have a career if he starting out now? Nevermind.
Anyway… my two cents is worth even less than usual: I haven’t seen the movie.
But I saw the trailer. I was like, oh, shit… this is not a joke movie, not a bubble gum infommercial. How about that?
And, fool, I actually thought it would open strong.
So, why can’t it build an audience? Movies can do that, still, can’t they?
After all the coverage today, I’ve decided to go see it this week and ask my friends to consider going as well.
Yikes, welcome to current film marketing. That one-sheet says it all, what a headache.
Yes, it’s not HSM and it was marketed improperly, but this is hardly Hughes-level work.
At best, it’s a lame PG version of Adventureland that also featured a song from David Bowie. Adventureland featured more marketable actors than Bandslam, a better soundtrack, and also could have benefited from better marketing.
Adventureland had a stronger assessment by critics than Bandslam and has topped out under $17 million in grosses. Even Almost Famous with an Oscar-winning screenplay grossed under $47 million.
Bandslam had a tough marketing job ahead of it no matter how it was done. Blame marketing all you want, but this wasn’t going to be a strong performer, despite quality claims.
I’m basically shocked that people liked this film. It was so after-school special.
I honestly don’t know why they would cast Vanessa Huggins in this film…that alone made the movie bomb
Marketing problems aside, a much bigger problem was casting Vanessa Hudgens in a movie supposed to attract anyone over the age of 15 .
When a movie is this good, this smart, and this cool, we owe it to the movie to let it live. I’m not sure Summit did anything than any other studio wouldn’t have done. It’s hard to go indie when you have disney stars cast in the lead.
I saw this, and am grieved that it will never get the praise deserved. Vanessa Hudgens (as many critics have stated) outdid herself in this little film.
She showed the world she can do more than sing and dance with a pretty smile. She is going places.
I sure hope summit corrects this. This is the second time this year that bad marketing has resulted in a film that failed in the B/O but should have succeeded because it was in fact a great film.
Okay, seriously though. Do you think this could’ve sold if you marketed it like Juno? Juno had Jason Bateman, Jennifer Garner, and the can’t miss future oscar winner Ellen Paige onboard. Here you have Lisa Kudrow (does she still work?) and two Disney girls. LOL! And School Of Rock??? Don’t give me that as a comparison. School of Rock had Jack Black.
The reality here is that they had very little to work with. Vanessa Hudgens was the only name they had. So marketing it to her audience was probably the smartest move. Was it risky? No. But if you would’ve marketed this to my age group (29) I would’ve taken one look at Vanessa Hudgens, laughed, and said, “Why the hell would someone pay to put this commercial in front of me??” It’s like advertising tampons on ESPN.
Coulda Shoulda Woulda. More like “Wouldn’t Have Mattereda”.
Josh Cagen wrote this film. I know Graff did some work on the script but how ’bout we give some credit to the original writer.
Feels like a lot of “Bandslam” boosters typing in today! I saw the film, thought it was pretty inoffensive, but nothing even remotely worth recommending with more than an “eh, it was pretty inoffensive.”
Tested through the roof?
Um…
no.
But it did deserve better.
I just saw the film with a healthy dose of skepticism. It looked like HSM4: The Rejects. What I saw was actually more of a Nick & Norah/Charlie Bartlett hybrid. Why didn’t they follow the N&N model of last year? It would have done so well. All the parts are pitch-perfect, and the film is quirky enough that anyone can find something to love about it.
Here’s hoping some word-of-mouth might make a difference.
@literally
There may not be dozens of studios, but there are more than dozens of marketing heads in this business, even if they’re from smaller production companies.
And yes there is a good chance it can build up an audience, just like Slumdog did. Don’t take me wrong, I’m not comparing it to Slumdog, but that movie did come out of nowhere (despite its high-profile director) and blow people’s minds away and then build a whole new campaign after its original release.
And I thought the main character was Will (Gaelan Connell), not Vanessa.
The movie did deserve to be seen and the cast and crew did a wonderful job. What an unfortunate situation.
I am amused by certain people who are commenting here who didn’t bother to read what was posted and do not care about this movie at all or have any intentions of watching it, but simply came to bash Vanessa Hudgens. People really do disgust me. She gave a strong performance and isn’t going anywhere.
Glad you posted this Nikki. Too often box office (or lack thereof) is reported without insight as to why/how. The epitat for this sweet smart, funny film should not be that it bombed, but rather, that it never had a chance. It could have been a contender.
When a film is killed by an marketing campaign that underestimates it’s audience, everyone needs to rise up and say – I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore.
I hadn’t even heard of the movie. I’m staying in Thailand for a while and saw the poster at a cinema and instantly thought “no way in fuck I’m seeing that HSM spin off that Hudgens did for an easy pay day.”
I guarantee you everyone else thought the same thing. I’m in the airport flying back to LA right now, I’ll be checking it out this week.
I worked at Summit. From what I recall there were many internal fights about how to sell this film. The filmmakers didn’t like the title. Screaming matches, nasty e-mails. The filmmakers wanted it to be cooler, they hated everything about the campaign – they didn’t want to concentrate on Vanessa Hudgens. They knew older kids didn’t think she was cool. So they wanted Summit to sell it a different way. I remember a meeting where Elaine and Todd walked out in the middle. Todd refused to come back.
It was hard internally because the temptation to sell it to vanessa’s audience was the only hook. And even though the fimmakers didn’t want it, they did it anyway.
I heard that Elaine Goldsmith got so frustrated with the Summit marketing people about the title, that she and the kids on the movie made a video pleading with the studio to not name it Bandslam. She almost had them convinced, but Rob gave her a choice either BANDSLAM or ROCK ON! How’s that for creativity? Truly. Dumb or Dumber. So Todd Graff threatened to take his name off the movie if they called it ROCK ON. And that’s how they ended up with Bandslam.
Todd and Elaine wanted it to be called, “WILL”. But Summit said, no one will go see a movie with that title. Unbelievable.
Here you have two great films this weekend, this one and District 9. The difference is that Sony has a spot on A+ marketing group that turned a little picture into a monster hit. If only Summit had a similar group.
Any similarity between creativity and Summit Entertainment is purely coincidental.
MOOKI AND OTHER V HATERS:
What an asses you are Vanessa had very little screen time and btw got the best reviews. Next time know what you’re talking about.