UPDATES NBC Admits It Was “Premature” To Declare Conan “New King Of Late Night”
More dueling late night news releases. So CBS is out bright and early this AM with its PR crowing that The Late Show with David Letterman has just posted its longest winning streak over The Tonight Show since 1995. And The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson is winning viewers for the 3rd straight week:
CBS’s LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN beat “The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien” in viewers for the fourth consecutive week, according to Nielsen live plus same day ratings for the week ending July 31. This marks the first time LATE SHOW has notched four consecutive wins over “The Tonight Show” with first-run broadcasts since the weeks ending June 9, June 16, June 23 and June 30, 1995.
LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN delivered a 2.4/06 in households with an average of 3.38m viewers, up +9% in households (from 2.2/06) and +14% in viewers (from 2.96m) compared to the same week last year.
LATE SHOW beat “The Tonight Show” in households (2.4/06 vs. 1.8/05, +33%) and viewers (3.38m vs. 2.63m, +29%). In adults 18-49 and adults 25-54, LATE SHOW trailed “The Tonight Show” by just -0.2.
LATE SHOW also delivered more viewers than “Nightline” (3.36m) for the second consecutive week.
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THE LATE LATE SHOW with CRAIG FERGUSON posted a 1.1/04 in households with 1.41m viewers, topping “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” in households (1.1/04 vs. 1.0/03, +10%) and viewers (1.41m vs. 1.29m, +9%) for the third consecutive week.
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A few minutes later, NBC follows with its version of the ratings: that Conan grabs the July 27-31 week in 18-49 demographics over all cable and broadcast competition, while stretching his lead over Letterman:
UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. August 6, 2009 – NBC’s “The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien” has taken the week of July 27-31 over all broadcast and cable competition in adults 18-49, stretching its advantage over CBS’s “Late Show with David Letterman” to a 34 percent margin of victory in 18-49 viewers, up from the prior week’s 29 percent win. Conan is up week-to-week by 6 percent in 18-49 viewers and 5 percent in total viewers.
“Tonight” delivered bigger audiences than CBS or ABC in the hour last week in every key demographic: adults, men and women 18-34, 18-49 and 25-54. NBC’s “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” also out-delivered CBS’s “Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson” and ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live” in every one of the key demographics.
In addition to topping all broadcast competition for the week, “Tonight’s” 1.4 million adults 18-49 out-scored every cable network in the hour, as well as Comedy Central’s 11 p.m. ET telecast of “The Daily Show” and the 11:30 series “The Colbert Report.”
Conan originals have ranked #1 versus “Late Show” on 40 of 40 nights since his June 1 debut (including a tie).
The median age of Conan’s audience last week was 46.4, more than 10 years younger than Letterman’s 57.8 and the 56.6 of ABC’s “Nightline.” Conan’s viewership is also younger than it was last year on “Late Night,” where the median age of his audience for this same week one year ago was 47.8.
At 12:35 a.m. ET last week, “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon” led CBS’s “Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson” by a 38 percent margin in 18-49 and a 64 percent margin in adults 18-34. Since his March 2 debut, Jimmy has ranked #1 or tied for #1 versus Ferguson in 18-49 on 102 of 105 nights. Last week, Jimmy also attracted a bigger audience in the valuable 18-34 demographic than did Letterman, despite Jimmy’s later start time.
For the week of July 27-31, Conan’s average 1.374 million adults 18-49 topped the 1.022 million of Letterman; in total viewers, Conan’s audience of 2.626 million persons trailed Letterman’s 3.376 million; and in adults 18-34, Conan’s 652,000 million out-scored Letterman’s 347,000. At 12:35 a.m. ET, Jimmy Fallon’s 734,000 adults 18-49 for the week out-delivered Ferguson’s 530,000; in total viewers, Jimmy’s 1.291 million trailed Ferguson’s 1.414 million; and in adults 18-34, Jimmy’s 357,000 topped Ferguson’s 218,000.
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Great news. Letterman is the one and only king of late night.
…and the streak will continue. The bottom line is that Conan’s appeal is very limited and there’s no upside. Personally, I think he’s a gifted writer, in fact, “The Simpsons” in its first season was an overhyped, underwhelming show until Conan came aboard as writer and producer in 1991 and helped steer the show towards its best seasons in 92 and 93.
Unfortunately, I just can’t tolerate watching him because he does these incredibly annoying tics and gesticulations and unintelligible utterances in between jokes during him monologue. I guess it’s a lame-ass attempt to garner some kind of reaction from the audience, which indeed indulges him laughter, so I guess he takes that as a cue for more.
Also, his interviews with “hot” women, where he tries to come across as the affable, awkward boy, is just downright creepy. It may have worked in his early 30s, but now that he’s well into his 40s, it’s cringe-inducing.
But not as cringe-inducing as Zucker’s stewardship of programming at NBC.
Good going demographics! I’m solidly in the 18-49, but looking at the success of Conan and Fallon, I’m starting to feel old.
I guess this is how the Carsonites felt when Arsenio showed up.
That said, much as I prefer Craig Ferguson to Jimmy Fallon, it’s hard to be too critical of a guy who’s constantly Twittering and using other social networking gimmicks, when your guy is playing with puppets and dressing up as Prince Charles.
652,000 million
Yikes, Conan is the king of late night. And with those numbers, he might be the next Grand Poobah of the Universe.
Am I the only one who finds it depressing that Letterman’s people think it’s so huge that he’s beating Conan? He’s been on the air forever! I would hope he would be. I see everyone on here is happy to dig Conan’s grave, but in a year I bet his audience stabilizes in a comfortable way.
My favorite Letterman Top Ten:
Top Ten Things To Ask Yourself Before Eating At Wendy’s. Number 10…Are my affairs in order?
LOL!
@P.J Lemonsky – Conan started writing for the Simpsons in the fourth season, and while yes, the first season is hit and miss, the second and third are stone-cold classics. Secondly, if you’ve ever worked in television you know that the creative direction is dependent upon the showrunners, and Conan’s run was during the Al Jean/Mike Reiss era which was the first change from the original Sam Simon/Brooks/Groening team. So if you think the episodes from his era are that superior to the previous ones, you should probably credit Jean and Reiss. Furthermore, you could just as easily credit Josh Weinstein and Bill Oakley who came aboard the same time as Conan (and went on to exec produce the beloved seasons 7 and 8), as well as George Meyer and Mike Scully who took on added responsibilities in the wake of Sam Simon’s departure. The point being, there is no auteurism in sitcoms, and while Conan’s a funny guy who probably made a good staff writer, his contributions to the Simpsons are vastly overstated.
Conan wrote the monorail episode.
‘Nuff said.
Conan is winning every key demographic—the only thing advertisers really care about. Any other numbers are meaningless. The two most obnoxious personalities on television next to Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow have to be David Letterman and Paul Schaeffer. Hopefully, it is only a matter of time before Dave crawls into a hole and fades into obscurity. I agree Sir Paul, I don’t like his show either—he hasn’t been funny in well over a decade. Anyone remember the Oscars debacle? Geesh, that was painful to watch—talentless.
“Am I the only one who finds it depressing that Letterman’s people think it’s so huge that he’s beating Conan?”
Well, that’s what PR people do. Really, though, I did expect Letterman to gain more viewers than he has so far. Conan, well, he continues to do how I expected him to do with the move to 11:30pm, so….
@Langdon Alger
Thanks.
Actually, I always think of “The Simpsons” in terms of years rather than season numbers, so I got that all jumbled up.
I noticed the quality improving in the 91-92 season, with that season and 92-93 along with 93-94 (by which time Conan was doing late night, but his name still appeared in the credits so I assume he had been working on those before departing) being the best.
But the 94-95 season was abysmally bad (with the lone exception of the sexual harrassment episode), so my assumption was that Conan had alot to do with the quality of the prior years, along with the fact he’s credited for writing the classic Monorail and Homer Goes to College episodes.
So thanks for setting the record straight.
Numbers numbers numbers, so what if i drop 500lbs i would be the skinness guy on earth. You can manipulate the numbers any way you like, their is only ONE # 1.
Zucksville is too busy spinning numbers and not paying attention to great programing.
This will be great case study for film school at USC, “How you run a 1st place network into a 4th place network 101″ With special lectures by Professor Zucker.
The important thing is that Conan is beating George Lopez reruns in both homes and demos! As will The Tonight Show next year with its new host.
As for the first season of The Simpsons being overrated, the Albert Brooks episode alone is better than most every episode that followed. You don’t launch a 20-year franchise and place episodes (on a network in its fourth year) in the Nielsen top 10 during a “shaky” first season.
As I stated months ago, NBC has made a huge blunder by putting Conan on The Tonight Show and bannishing Jay Leno to the 10 PM time slot. Letterman will continue to kick Conan’s butt and Ferguson will do the same to Jimmy Fallon, who is a disaster. CBS will continue to rule late night. NBC is as dumb as Paula Abdul.
Here is the actual list of episodes that were “written”
by Conan.
*Treehouse of Horror IV (1993) TV episode (writer) (as Watch Conan O’Brien) He wrote the wraparounds for the
episode.
*Homer Goes to College (1993)
*Marge vs. the Monorail (1993)
*New Kid on the Block (1992)
One should know that the writers work as a team and
work to improve each others scripts. For example,
the idea to make Bart Chief justice of the US Supreme
court in the Itchy and Scratchy Movie episode.
BTW, the real story will come next week when numbers
come out because Dave was off this week.
I thought there was a moratorium on the term “key demographic” – it just means a `demographic we are winning’, right? As much as I love Dave, his numbers are pretty consistent over the last few years. The competition is Jay v Conan – and The Tonight Show ratings have fallen off of a cliff. That’s great that NBC might still be able to charge the same rate because they are doing well in “key demographics”, but this isn’t Attack the Show or any number of cable shows that carve out a strategic audience. The Tonight Show has always been bigger than that and since June it’s ratings have fallen off of a cliff. There, I said it again. I get it that they think that audiences will gain comfort with Conan, Dave will call it a career in a few years, and then boom those will be big years again for The Tonight Show again. But that’s a lot “if’s” in a vacuum.
This old saying comes to mind, “There are lies, damn lies, and statistics”
And the other: “Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.”
Dave is just funnier and better. Conan is indeed creepy.
Fallon?!?!?! Can’t get beyond my bewilderment to write anything.
Prediction: If they ever give Billy Bush a shot at late night talk, watch out. That guy is funny, quick and charming with the broads.