SEPTEMBER ELECTIONS: Larry Gelbart Writes Open Letter To WGA Membership
UPDATE: It seems the John Wells camp sent me two versions of his rebuttal: one on Google, and one on Word. I opened the Google document first and posted. Then I went and opened the Word document and saw it was still in “tracking” mode and clearly an extensively edited document. I contacted the Wells camp as to which version they wanted me to post. I was asked to click “accept changes”, then swap out the Google document for the Word document. Which I’ve now done. For transparency, DHD has posted the edited version first, but also made available the unedited version. (Click “more”.) Who fucked this up? Craig Mazin…
Larry’s statement deeply saddens me. He is one of my writing idols. And while I’m pleased he thinks I’m a “nice guy,” and I hope he thinks I’m the “very smart” one of the “Two Johns,” the tone, innuendo, half-truths and outright falsehoods that riddle his remarks epitomize what I feel has gone terribly wrong with the level of debate in the Guild since Writers United took control.
This isn’t the first time Larry and I have been at odds over the direction of the Guild, and I’m surprised that he didn’t disclose that history before launching into his attack. Years ago, Larry filed a charge with the Department of Labor against our union over whether showrunners (me in particular) could serve in elective Guild office. The Department of Labor disagreed, and dismissed the complaint.
But the defense of Larry’s fruitless charge cost our Guild well over two hundred thousand dollars of our hard-earned dues money to defend.
Of course, he wasn’t just wrong in the law, but in principle as well. I began my career as a staff writer, protected by the participation of Guild giants like Frank Pierson and David Rintels, Ed North, John Furia and Mel Shavelson. And I fully expect to be protected and supported in my retirement by the next generation of Shawn Ryans, Greg Daniels and Matthew Weiners. We all benefit from the participation in Guild politics by those lucky enough to be successful at that moment in their careers. Where would we have been in last year’s strike without our showrunners? Without Marc Cherry or Neal Baer, David Goodman or John Bowman?
Unfortunately, Guild politics isn’t always pleasant. This time, Larry’s target isn’t our Guild, but my reputation.
The truth is the best defense.
Larry claims that the Guild “became timid and obsequious” during my Presidency. In the 2001 negotiation we got 1.2% of 100% of internet rentals (the homevideo/DVD formula we’d always dreamed of getting but never had – and double what we got on internet downloads after three months of striking in ’07). We got a massive increase in our foreign television residuals and in our made for Pay formulas. And FOX was made a full network. All without striking – if that’s “timid and obsequious” negotiating, I hope whoever is elected President can be even more timid and obsequious in our next negotiation.
Larry claims that I was a “solo act” and “consulted no one”. Nothing could be further from the truth. We held numerous membership meetings, conducted detailed surveys, and I worked closely with the Negotiating Committee to negotiate the deal. In fact, the Negotiating Committee in ’01 was far more involved in the day-to-day specifics of the negotiations than the ’07 Negotiating Committee. (Please feel free to contact any member of the ’07 Negotiating Committee to ask them about how little they were actually involved in the negotiations). I did absolutely nothing as a solo act, working directly with the Board and the Negotiating Committee at every instance.
Larry also accuses me of “trading away” our DVD percentage for a one-time “script bonus” in 2001. “Better than nothing, but not by much.” This charge is patently absurd. Larry seems to be suggesting that increasing the DVD percentage in ’01 was simply a matter of will. If it were that simple, why didn’t Larry do it as a member of the Negotiating Committee in ’85 that stuck us with the crappy DVD formula in the first place? Or as a member of the ’88 Negotiating Committee that did nothing to get a better DVD formula for us during a five month strike? If phone trees and organizing were all that was required to increase the DVD formula, why did the current Guild leadership give up on DVDs in ’07 at the very beginning of the strike?
Larry suggests that the 2004 negotiation is “generally regarded as a disaster.” “Generally regarded” by whom? He doesn’t say. I guess Larry believes that a “disastrous” contract is one that protects our Pension and Health Fund and allows us to maintain benefits for the largest number of members. He then belittles the gains by suggesting the companies “coughed up some extra funding for our health fund.” Coughed up some extra funding? The Health and Pension Trustees begged us to make this our highest priority, so we did. It kept our Health Fund solvent.
Larry then goes on to say “both Johns argued forcefully that we mustn’t even ask” for the companies to cough up more than they did so as to be able to cover more writers. This is an outright lie. I never made such a statement, nor would I ever make such a statement.
And this very same “disastrous” 2004 negotiation enabled us to mount an effective strike in ’07. Why? It allowed us to move our contract expiration date into the fall, far in advance of the expiration of the DGA contract and smack dab in the middle of the fall television production season. If our contract expiration date had remained in the early summer, we would not have had the leverage necessary to strike for New Media in ‘07. We would have been handed a contract by the DGA without the benefit of our muscle on the picket line forcing a better deal. This wasn’t some lucky accident. We spent over a decade planning how to get our date moved into the fall, and that planning served us well in ’07. Current leadership squandered this advantage by not insisting on our maintaining our fall date as a condition of ending the strike. They could have gotten it, they didn’t.
Larry seems to be trying very, very hard to link me with John McLean, and I suppose I should be flattered that Larry has created a new turn of phrase to describe “The Two Johns” (although I somehow doubt it was intended to be complimentary). As President, I worked with the Executive Director. But if Larry had taken the time to do a little research, he would have discovered that I did not serve on the Executive Director Search Committee that hired John McLean, but that I did serve on the Executive Director Search Committee that recommended to the Board that we hire David Young.
Larry brings up what he refers to as my “Dear Jim” letter, suggesting that it somehow prevented us from getting a better deal from the Companies. This is yet another ridiculous and false allegation. Patric Verrone argued just a few weeks later that the WGA deal based on the DGA template was excellent. So which is it? Was our deal bad…or good?
He also claimed that my email encouraged members to accept the DGA deal and “go back to work,” further suggesting “That note, with the force of an IED, cut the legs off our negotiators.” My letter said no such thing and did no such thing. In case you didn’t read it, here is what it said after explaining the specifics of what the DGA had negotiated:
“Our Negotiating Committee has numerous issues that are specific to writers that must still be resolved with the AMPTP: the term of our next contract, pension and health issues, separated rights on new media, and jurisdiction for material written for derivatives that will not be filmed (show blogs, web-only stories, etc). But this is a historic deal. We’ve won. The strike was necessary to win it and I can only assume our Negotiating Committee will be sitting down with the AMPTP by early next week to resolve these last, final issues. It’s a very good day for all of us.”
That’s it. Cut the legs off of our negotiators? Encouraged members to accept the DGA deal and go back to work? Really? I beg to differ. But you don’t have to take my word for it. If you’ve never read it, it’s still hanging around the Internet somewhere. Dig it up and read it for yourself.
And finally, the most personally painful of Larry’s accusations — that I mistreated the writers I was working with on The West Wing.
The West Wing was a critically successful show, but never a big ratings hit. As soon as the ratings began to fall, the studio and network lowered the license fee and the show’s budget, forcing us to make extensive cuts. I didn’t want to lay off any writers, so I asked everyone to forgo raises (producers, directors and writers), and I took a pay cut. Larry is correct in saying this happened after the staffing season was mostly completed, but the budget cutbacks didn’t come until after the staffing season. We all made a little less (myself included), but everyone kept working. It made for a juicy story–“the President of the Writers Guild screwing writers.” But if Larry had taken the time to contact any of the writers involved, he would have discovered that when the meager profits for the show did start to trickle in, I took all of mine and distributed them to the members of the company – including the writers.
I didn’t have to do that, just as I didn’t have to keep all of the writers on the show, just as I didn’t have to cut my own pay. I did the best I could in a tough spot, and I would do it again. There’s a reason Jeff Melvoin, the mastermind behind our excellent Showrunner Training Program, is endorsing me.
Larry’s a fighter. As a member of the negotiating committees in the strike years of ’85 and ’88, and as a committed supporter of our most recent strike in ’07, he fought for all of our rights. Larry believes a Guild’s purpose is to strike, and he’s good at it. We’ve needed field generals like Larry and Patric Verrone and George Kirgo — and we’ve needed diplomats like Dan Petrie, John Furia and Del Reisman, who believed in engagement and hard-nosed negotiation. I like to think of myself as bringing a bit of both. We went to war over rollbacks in 1988 and new media jurisdiction in 2007. Without striking, tough, pragmatic negotiations in 2001 and 2004 secured Internet rentals and saved our health fund. Both tactics work. But in the end, no matter how long or strong you strike, every fight must end with a deal.
Larry’s statement gave me a reason to fight, but in the spirit of diplomacy, I’ll end with an olive branch. Larry Gelbart is a great writer, and I know he loves his Guild. If you choose to return me to office, I can assure you I will fight hard for all of our mutual interests—yours, mine, and yes, even Larry’s. I know that Larry respects Patric Verrone, as do I, so I’ll borrow a phrase that Patric used so often and effectively during the strike.
We’re all in this together, Larry.
Click to see the unedited version of John Wells’ rebuttal.
I have to say this non-candidate statement from Larry’s statement deeply saddens me. Larry He is one of my writing idols. And while I’m pleased he thinks I’m a “nice guy,” and I hope he thinks I’m the “very smart” one of the “Ttwo Johns,”, the tone, innuendo, half-truths and outright falsehoods that riddle this screed passing as folksy commentary is his remarks epitomizeexactly what I feel has gone terribly wrong with the level of debate within in the Guild since Writers United took control of the Guild.
This isn’t the first time Larry and I have been at odds over the direction of the Guild, and I’m surprised that Larry he didn’t consider it necessary to disclose this that history as a bit of a disclaimer before launching into this his attack. Years ago, Larry personally filed a charge with the Department of Labor against his own Guildour union with the Department of Labor over whether showrunners (me in particular) could serve in elective Guild office. He lost resoundingly when tThe Department of Labor disagreed, and dismissed the complaint.
But the defense of this Larry’s his fruitless charge lawsuit cost our Guild well over two hundred thousand dollars of our hard-earned dues money to defend. Two hundred thousand dollars of our hard earned dues money.
Of course, he wasn’t just wrong in the law, but in principle as well. Our Guild was founded by and has benefited from the participation of those of us fortunate enough to be very successful at some point in our careers. I began my involvement with the Guild as a career as a staff writer in television, protected by the participation of Guild giants like Frank Pierson and David Rintels, Ed North, John Furia and Mel Shavelson. And I fully expect to be protected and supported in my retirement by the next generation of Shawn Ryans, Greg Daniels and Matthew Weiners. We all benefit from the participation in Guild politics by those lucky enough to be successful at that moment in their careers. Where would we have been in last year’s strike without our showrunners? Without writer-directors like Phil Robinson and or Tom Schulman? Without Ed Solomon and or Marc Norman supporting us wholeheartedly?. Marc Cherry or Neal Baer, David Goodman or John Bowman?
But that history aside, I’d like to take a moment to respond to some of the more outrageous of Larry’s allegations. Unfortunately, Guild politics isn’t always pleasant. This time, Larry’s target isn’t our Guild, but my reputation.
The truth is the best defense.
Larry claims that the Guild “became timid and obsequious” during my Presidency. In the 2001 negotiation we got 1.2% of 100% of internet rentals (the homevideo/DVD formula we’d always dreamed of getting but never had – and that we didn’t getdouble what we got on internet downloads to won withafter three months of very effective striking in ’07, we got half that much). We got a massive increase in our foreign television residuals and in our made for Pay formulas. (that amounted to the largest increase in this years residuals report), And FOXox was made a full network. and substantial increases in our made for Pay formulas. All without striking – if that’s “timid and obsequious” negotiating, I hope whoever is elected President can get us more of thatbe even more timid and obsequious in our next negotiation.
Larry claims that I acted aswas a “solo act” and “consulted no one”. Nothing could be farther further from the truth. We held numerous membership meetings, conducted detailed surveys, and I worked closely with the Nnegotiating Ccommittee to negotiate the deal. In fact, the Nnegotiating Ccommittee in ’01 was far more involved in the day-to-day specifics of the negotiations than the ’07 Nnegotiating Ccommittee. (Pplease feel free to contact any member of the ’07 Nnegotiating Ccommittee to ask them about how little they were actually involved in the negotiations). I did absolutely nothing as a solo act, wand I workinged directly with the Board and the Negotiating Committee at every instance. Reporting any individual conversations I had with anyone to both bodies immediately. Again, this was not done in ’07.
Larry also accuses me of “trading away” our DVD percentage for a one-time “script bonus” in 2001. “Better than nothing, but not by much.” I don’t really know where to begin in rebutting this bit of absurdityThis charge is patently absurd. Larry seems to be suggesting that increasing the DVD percentage in ’01 was simply a matter of will — that organizing “phone trees” could have solved. If it was were that simple, why didn’t Larry solve thisdo itprevent this as a member of the Negotiating Committee in ’85 that stuck us with this the crappy DVD formula in the first place? Or as a member of the ’88 Negotiating Committee that did nothing to get a better DVD formula for us during a five month strike?. Or more recently (and obviously), iIf phone trees and organizing was were all that was required to increase the DVD formula, why did the current Guild leadership give up on DVDs in ’07 at the very beginning of the strike? Give up on fighting to increase DVDs in the midst of the most impressive strike we’ve ever thrown?
Larry suggests that the 2004 negotiation that I participated in as a member of the committee is “generally regarded as a disaster.” “Generally regarded” by whom? He doesn’t say. I guess Larry believes that a “disastrous” contract is one that protects our Pension and Health Fund and allows us to maintain benefits for the largest number of members. He then belittles the gains by suggesting the companies “coughed up some extra funding for our health fund.” Coughed up some extra funding? The Health and Pension Trustees begged us to make this our highest priority, so we did. It kept our Health Fund solvent. Larry may be in a position to believe that this was a disastrous negotiation, but I doubt many members would agree. .
Larry then goes on to say “both Johns argued forcefully that we mustn’t even ask” for the companies to cough up more than they did so as to be able to cover more writers. This is an outright lie. I never made such a statement, nor would I ever make such a statement.
And this very same “disastrous” 2001 2004 negotiation is the only reason we were ableenabled us to mount an effective strike in ’07. Why? Because iIt allowed us to move our contract expiration date into the fall, far in advance of the expiration of the DGA contract and smack dab in the middle of the fall television production season. If our contract expiration date had remained in the early summer, we would not have had the leverage necessary to strike for New Media in ‘07. We would have been handed a contract by the DGA without the benefit of our muscle on the picket line forcing a better deal. This wasn’t some lucky accident., Wwe spent over a decade planning how to get our date moved into the fall, and it that planning served us well in ’07. Current leadership squandered this advantage by not insisting on our maintaining our fall date as a condition of ending the strike. They could have gotten it, they didn’t.
Larry seems to be trying very, very hard to link me with John McLean, and I suppose I should be flattered that Larry has created a new turn of phrase to describe “The TwoJohn and Johns” (although I somehow doubt it was intended to be complimentary). As President, I worked with the Executive Director. But if Larry had’d taken the time to do a little research, he would have discovered that I did not serve on the Executive Director Search Committee that hired John McLean, but that I did serve on the Executive Director Search Committee that unanimously recommended to the Board that we hire David Young.
“John and John”, I’d never heard that before. I have to give Larry credit, it’s pretty funny, but not apropos of much of anything.
Larry brings up what he refers to as my “Dear Jim” letter, suggesting that my letter to a friend that was later widely distributed on the Internetit somehow prevented us from getting a better deal from the Companies. This is yet another ridiculous statement that is not based on the factsand false allegation. Patric Verrone argued just a few weeks later that the WGA deal based on the DGA template was excellent. So which is it? Was our deal bad…or good?
He also suggested claimed that mythe email encouraged members to accept the DGA deal and “go back to work,”, further suggesting “That note, with the force of an IED, cut the legs off our negotiators.” My letter said no such thing and did no such thing. In case you didn’t read it, here is what it said after explaining the specifics of what the DGA had negotiated: –
“While the DGA deserves our thanks and appreciation for negotiating a terrific deal that will serve as a template for all three creative Guilds, none of this would have been possible without the blood, sweat and sacrifice of WGA members during this very effective strike. The Companies made a deal they didn’t want to make because of our resolve. They clearly understood how important these issues were for our members and stepped up to resolve them.
Our Negotiating Committee has numerous issues that are specific to writers that must still be resolved with the AMPTP: the term of our next contract, pension and health issues, separated rights on new media, and jurisdiction for material written for derivatives that will not be filmed (show blogs, web-only stories, etc). But this is a historic deal. We’ve won. The strike was necessary to win it and I can only assume our Negotiating Committee will be sitting down with the AMPTP by early next week to resolve these last, final issues. It’s a very good day for all of us.”
That’s it. Cut the legs off of our negotiators? Encouraged members to accept the DGA deal and go back to work? Really? I beg to differ. But you don’t have to take my word for it. If you’ve never read it, it’s still hanging around the Internet somewhere., dig Dig it up and read it for yourself.
And finally, the most personally painful of Larry’s accusations — that I mistreated the writers I was working with on The West Wing. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so. I feel like the guy in the old story who is asked when he stopped beating his wife. This accusation is based on half-truths and rumor that Larry apparently didn’t have the time to check out.
The West Wing was a critically successful show, but never a big ratings hit. As with other expensive, critical hits, as soon as the ratings began to fall, the studio and network lowered the license fee and the show’s budget, and forced forcing us to make extensive cuts. I didn’t want to cut any jobslay off any writers, so I asked everyone to stay at their last year’s ratesforgo raises (producers, directors and writers), and I took a pay cut. Larry is correct in saying this happened after the staffing season was mostly completed, but the budget cutbacks didn’t come until after the staffing season. We all made a little less (me myself included), and but everyone kept working. One of the writers involved had extensive previous contacts in the press and called one of them. It made for a juicy story, –“the President of the Writers Guild screwing writers.” But if Larry had taken the time to contact any of the writers involved, he would have discovered that when the meager profits for the show did start to trickle in, I took all of mine and distributed them to the members of the company – including the writers.
I didn’t have to do that, just as I didn’t have to keep all of the writers on the show, just as I didn’t have to cut my own pay. I did the best I could in a tough spot, and I would do it again. There’s a reason Jeff Melvoin, the mastermind behind our excellent Showrunner Training Program, is endorsing me.
Larry’s a fighter. As a member of the negotiating committees in the strike years of ’85 and ’88, and as a committed supporter of our most recent strike in ’07, he fought for all of our rights. But to suggest that every confrontation requires a fight is, I believe, incorrect. Larry believes a Guild’s purpose is to strike, and he’s good at it. We’ve needed field generals like Larry and Patric Verrone and George Kirgo — and we’ve needed diplomats like Dan Petrie, John Furia and Del Reisman, who believed in engagement and hard-nosed negotiation. I like to think of myself as bringing a bit of both. We went to war overfought for residuals and beat back rollbacks in 1988 and new media jurisdiction in 2007. Without striking, We pursued ttough, pragmatic negotiations in 2001 and in 2004 to secured Internet rentals and saved our health fund. Both tactics work. It’s about deciding which tactic is right for that particular time.But in the end, no matter how long or strong you strike, every fight must end with a deal.
Larry’s statement gave me a reason to fight, but in the spirit of diplomacy, I’ll end with an olive branch. Larry Gelbart is a great writer, and regardless of the mistakes he’s made in the past, I know he loves his Guild. If you choose to return me to office, I can assure you I will fight hard for all of our mutual interests—yours, mine, and yes, even Larry’s.
I know that Larry respects Patric Verrone, as do I, so I’ll borrow a phrase that Patric used so often and effectively during the strike.
We’re all in this together, Larry.
If you chose to return me to office I can assure you I will fight hard for our mutual interests. And if I don’t win, I can also assure you that I won’t be suing my own Guild or filing election charges with the DOL that cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend. I’m proud to be a part of a Guild that counts Larry Gelbart as a member, but this non-candidate statement was beneath him.
Larry’s statement deeply saddens me. He is one of my writing idols. And while I’m pleased he thinks I’m a “nice guy,” and I hope he thinks I’m the “very smart” one of the “Two Johns,” the tone, innuendo, half-truths and outright falsehoods that riddle his remarks epitomize what I feel has gone terribly wrong with the level of debate in the Guild since Writers United took control.





I’m a writer with multiple produced credits and was on the fence about who to vote for as guild President.
Until now. John Wells, you just reminded me of what it’s like to have adults in charge. You’ve got my vote.
I’ll be the one to say it… did someone copy/paste a document that had some edits done to it? This reads like someone had Track Changes on and made an error before sending (or posting, Nikki?).
If this is John’s actual writing, does he have any business running for WGA office?
Also, I gotta say it, when you use a red/pink background Nikki, it’s usually when you’re taking sides, like for the AMPTP… so, for the bad guys.
Yipes. Typos much? I don’t know if Wells is a “solo act” or not, but he definitely didn’t run this rebuttal past anyone else. Hard to respect a writer who doesn’t take the time to proof his own work. But I guess he really is more of a producer than a writer. Still voting for Davis, albeit reluctantly.
Larry, I think you’ve been served!
Well argued if not well spell-checked. Wells is going to get my vote. The strike first, think later crowd running WGAW has been a mixed bag at best. We strike, march and self-congratulate but all that really happens is we force the networks to learn how to make lots of money without us. It is time for adult supervision at the WGA. Gelbart is a great writer (except for United States which, sorry Larry, was awful) but reflects a knee-jerk philosophy which is destructive for the Guild. I’m now for Wells.
Is it me or did John Wells’s letter need a proofreader. One or two mistypes I could understand when you are impassioned and making a plea to writer peers. When it goes beyond that quota and there are also bad grammar errors, it becomes very distracting. While his argument is persuasive, one wonders if he did not see fit to correct his errors, what other oversights might be committed by him?
“But the defense of this Larry’s his fruitless charge lawsuit cost our Guild well over two hundred thousand dollars”
or…
“– and that we didn’t getdouble what we got on internet downloads to won withafter three months of very effective striking in ’07″
Either Wells is speaking in tongues or somehow the words and punctuation have been lost in the translation.
Maybe someone can take a look at the posted text and fix it?
Someone could use a proof-reader.
someone needs a proof reader
Forgive them white father, they know not what they’ve done.
Wells mentions: “Guild giants like Frank Pierson and David Rintels, Ed North, John Furia and Mel Shavelson…and the next generation of Shawn Ryans, Greg Daniels and Matthew Weiners… Where would we have been…without writer-directors like Phil Robinson and or Tom Schulman? Without Ed Solomon and or Marc Norman supporting us wholeheartedly?. Marc Cherry or Neal Baer, David Goodman or John Bowman?
Wells can’t be bothered to mention a single women. (Or I believe a single minority writer but I’ll let them complain about that.) My guild constantly degrades and dismisses women. We are half the population, but only 25 percent of the workforce and often at the lowest paying levels. It sickens me that someone like John Wells could write that paragraph without mentioning, oh let’s just say, Carol Barbee or Shonda Rhimes.
And if you think Gelbart’s gang is better, here’s his endorsement: “vote for Elias Davis, Tom Schulman, David Weiss, Dan Wilcox, Patric Verrone and Howard Rodman.” No women or minorities in that clique either.
Women and minorities are second-class citizens in the WGA.
Whoa, some copy-editing, puh-leese!
A writer?!!?!? Good God, I gave up trying to decipher his grammar and spelling half-way through the article. Doesn’t this guy make enough to buy something with a spell-checker?
Is this statement really as poorly written as it appears, or is it just riddled with transcription errors? If the former, it wouldn’t earn a passing grade as a high school essay assignment. This from a candidate for office with the *writers* guild???
wtf?! i have a hard time believing this one unless john was completely apoplectic when he hit “send”, passing along every draft of his rebuttal that didn’t make it through spell-check. he’s a better writer than this, and larry, well, larry should be writing “the sunshine boys II”.
Wow, Craig Mazin screwed something up? The man who has singlehandedly destroyed the spoof genre? What are the odds?
I’m well aware that his gross ineptitude at comedy has nothing whatsoever to do with his WGA service or his botched release of someone else’s (poorly written) letter, but felt it needed to be said just ’cause he sucks so – very – much.
Another load of self-serving and self-justifying crap from John Wells.
He never pursued increased dvd residuals, which the membership demanded and the studios had promised but never delivered, which is WHY our dvd formula still sucks, and why our new media formula (which is based on the dvd formula) sucks and will always suck.
John Wells is management, which is why Larry Gelbart brought the suit that he could not serve on the board while he was a showrunner. It was not without merit. The conservative courts may indeed have decided otherwise, but it is certainly and issue we should think about before deciding who is on our board next time.
And John did “cut the legs” out from under the Guild during the last strike when he, and other management/showrunners, held their own, separate meeting, the outcome of which was they they threatened the Guild that if the strike wasn’t settled quickly, they would go back to work anyway.
I don’t even know if Elias Davis would be a good President, but it’s hard to imagine that he could be worse for us.
Gelbart was right to challenge Wells’s ability to run the union. Wells is management, pure and simple, and thus should be ineligible to head a union.
I bet Les Moonves is still a member of SAG. Could he run for and be elected president of SAG while also running CBS? Under Wells’s argument, sure, why not.
Let me refer the entire world to two articles that should tell everyone all they need to know about John Wells. They are must-reads:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/26/arts/west-wing-producer-a-union-leader-rules-out-writers-raises.html?scp=4&sq=weinraub%20%22west%20wing%22%20writers&st=cse
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/03/news/director-says-studio-stole-details-in-book-for-use-in-tv-series.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Subjects/W/Writing%20and%20Writers
That pretty much says it all.
So now we see the truth: John Wells is just a figurehead so that Craig Mazin can be the new President of the WGA, because Mazin and Wells both know that Mazin would never have a chance if he ran himself since so many members despise him.
So that’s the choice we’ll be making soon: Elias Davis or Craig Mazin. For if John Wells can’t even write his own first-person defense, that tells us he is going to be hands-off to the point of puppetry if elected.
Wow, Wells pwned Gelbart. Yeah, he maybe should have mentioned that he’d sued Wells. Jesus.
Before Wells/Mazin start get on their high horse about Gelbart costing writers a few hundred thousand dollars, what about the hundreds of thousands of dollars that Wells cost HIS OWN writers by ripping them off on their West Wing deals?
That travesty should be front and center in this election. The guy is management and ANTI-WRITER and has proved it. It’s a fact. He’s a disgrace and we should all cast our votes against him.
John Wells says:
“if Larry had taken the time to contact any of the writers involved, he would have discovered that when the meager profits for the show did start to trickle in, I took all of mine and distributed them to the members of the company – including the writers.”
I encourage everyone to try and speak to the actual writers who worked with John on the West Wing during this time. I think you’ll hear an echo of Larry Gelbart’s statements and not the version John related above.
So, is Wells truly this illiterate or did some (now-fired) assistant jump the gun and submit version #1 before the red-pencil brigade grabbed it? If this is all it takes, gee, I want to be a big ol’showrunner, too!
You’re kidding me. Mazin wrote this? I should have known from the untalented overpaid tone of it. What a buffoon. Congratulations for just costing your side the election, Craig! LOL.
Gelbart is completely right. This is like when Ted Kennedy came out for Obama, which was the death blow for the Hillary campaign. Couple that with Wells’ childish reply and that pretty much seals the deal.
Here’s the part that bugs me, and it concerns that “Dear Jim” letter that Larry Gelbart rightly pounds Wells for:
“Larry brings up what he refers to as my “Dear Jim” letter, suggesting that my letter to a friend that was later widely distributed on the Internetit somehow prevented us from getting a better deal from the Companies. This is yet another ridiculous statement that is not based on the factsand false allegation. Patric Verrone argued just a few weeks later that the WGA deal based on the DGA template was excellent. So which is it? Was our deal bad…or good?
He also suggested claimed that mythe email encouraged members to accept the DGA deal and “go back to work,”, further suggesting “That note, with the force of an IED, cut the legs off our negotiators.” My letter said no such thing and did no such thing. In case you didn’t read it, here is what it said after explaining the specifics of what the DGA had negotiated: –
***“While the DGA deserves our thanks and appreciation for negotiating a terrific deal that will serve as a template for all three creative Guilds, none of this would have been possible without the blood, sweat and sacrifice of WGA members during this very effective strike. The Companies made a deal they didn’t want to make because of our resolve. They clearly understood how important these issues were for our members and stepped up to resolve them.
Our Negotiating Committee has numerous issues that are specific to writers that must still be resolved with the AMPTP: the term of our next contract, pension and health issues, separated rights on new media, and jurisdiction for material written for derivatives that will not be filmed (show blogs, web-only stories, etc). But this is a historic deal. We’ve won. The strike was necessary to win it and I can only assume our Negotiating Committee will be sitting down with the AMPTP by early next week to resolve these last, final issues. It’s a very good day for all of us.”***
That’s it. Cut the legs off of our negotiators? Encouraged members to accept the DGA deal and go back to work? Really? I beg to differ. But you don’t have to take my word for it. If you’ve never read it, it’s still hanging around the Internet somewhere., dig Dig it up and read it for yourself.”
First of all, yes, the above verbiage did, indeed, cut the legs off of our negotiators and encouraged WGA members to simply accept the DGA deal and go back to work. How, exactly, were the WGA’s negotiators supposed to sit down with the AMPTP and ask for, say, a shorter residuals-free window on ad-supported streaming than the ridiculous 24 day blowhole that the DGA had just settled for when the WGA’s own former president had just publicly declared the DGA’s new media terms to be “historic” and a “win,” and that the handful of unresolved WGA-specific issues (such as separated rights and the end date of the WGA contract) amounted to the “last, final issues” for the WGA’s negotiators to address? How exactly would that look: the WGA’s negotiators asking for terms better than the ones that the WGA’s former president had just publicly declared to be a “historic” “win”?! To ask the question is to answer it: Wells cut off the legs of the WGA’s negotiators. After the WGA’s former president had ball-washed the DGA’s deal for the benefit of “Jim,” there no longer existed a legitimate opportunity for the WGA negotiators to improve upon it.
And if you don’t already believe it, take Wells’s advice and dig that “Dear Jim” letter up ( http://artfulwriter.com/?p=318 ). Read it again and note that, at that very key moment for the WGA’s negotiators–their one and only opportunity to attempt to improve on the new media terms reached by the DGA–John Wells was publicly declaring the DGA’s new media terms to be “good. Very good.” and “a huge, historic victory for everyone” and “Another big win for all of us” and “extraordinary” and “Unbelievable” and (yet again) “another big win for all of us” and “a cause for celebration.” God only knows how John Wells can possibly expect us to believe that the above did *not* amount to a call for the WGA to simply take the DGA’s deal, as-is.
And all of the above, of course, puts aside the fact that John Wells still persists in innocently describing his “Dear Jim” email as “my letter to a friend that was later widely distributed on the Internet”, as opposed to what it very plainly was: a release written to be widely disseminated amongst the WGA membership, in order to promote the terms of a DGA deal which Wells, himself, had just assisted in negotiating. None of this, of course, was mentioned in Wells’s “letter to a friend that was later widely distributed on the Internet,” despite the fact that it’s undeniably key information that most reasonable people would consider to be of note when weighing Wells’s opinion of the DGA deal which the AMPTP was in the process of cramming down the WGA’s throat. That still bugs me greatly, to this very day.
Patrick Meighan
Culver City, CA