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UPDATE 4:30PM: Paramount Chief Brad Grey has now released a statement: "Our 2009 slate was greenlit in a very different economic climate and as a result we must remain flexible and willing to recalibrate and adapt to a changing environment. This is a situation facing every single studio as we all work through the financial pressures associated with the broader downturn. Like every business, we must make difficult choices to maximize our overall success and to best manage Paramount’s business in a way that serves Viacom and its shareholders, while providing the film with every possible chance to succeed both creatively and financially.
"Leonardo DiCaprio is among the most talented actors working today and Martin Scorsese is not just one of the world's most significant filmmakers, but also a personal friend. Following a highly successful 2009, we have every confidence that Shutter Island is a great anchor to lead off our 2010 slate and the shift in date is the best decision for the film, the studio and ultimately Viacom."
EXCLUSIVE 10:40AM: This Shutter Island decision is now the second major studio pic to jump from Fall 2009 to February 2010 (after Universal's The Wolfman recently moved off November). But Paramount's adaptation of the Dennis Lehane novel directed by Marty Scorsese and starring Leonardo DiCaprio looked entrenched for October 2nd and this coming awards season. For godsakes, the pic is already on people's Oscar list. Such a surprise delay is just going to compound all the buzz surrounding the picture and its great trailer released in June. An insider tells me. "It tested in the high 80s/low 90s and Scorsese even brought it down to 2 hours." So what's the problem? I hear that Paramount told the filmmakers it doesn't have the financing in 2009 to spend the $50M to $60M necessary to market a big awards pic like this. (But a studio source insists to me it's got the cash, just not the home video sales: 
"Given where the DVD business is in 2009, our only hope is the economy and the retail business rebounds in 2010 because the hardest hit segment has been movies that play to an older adult audience," a studio source tells me.) *UPDATE: I'm also told that, among the many reasons for the move, Leo wasn't going to be available to promote the pic internationally.* So the studio settled on the release date of February 19th because "that's when Silence Of The Lambs came out" back in 1991 and it won the Oscar. "Now that the Academy has expanded Best Picture to 10 films," my insider notes, "it will be easier for a movie that came out in the beginning of the year to get nominated."
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Well,they finally miss Jon Dolgen. As stress inducing as he was around the lot, crap like this didn’t happen with him in charge.
This isn’t a good sign. It would have been worse if Saw VI out-grossed DiCaprio. At least they can brag that they did better than The Wolfman in February.
Bring on The Expendables.
To paraphrase the late Lloyd Bentsen, I know The Silence of the Lambs. The Silence of the Lambs is a friend of mine. Shutter Island, you’re no The Silence of the Lambs.
Noooooooooooooooooo…jeez…thats some BS
…Tell that to “Marty”! And this would have nothing to do with the Avitar trailer finally being released yesterday? I’m just saying Niki, I’m just saying….I personally wouldn’t trust Paramount exec’s…
It’s time to end the nightmare that is Brad Grey.
Unbelievable. Well, at least there’ll be two movies to look forward to in February 2010.
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Overture films, pay attention. Release PANDORUM October 2nd! You will have it all to yourself, and you have a great marketing campaign. Don’t blow it trying to go head to head with SURROGATES.
I always thought the trailer looked terrible & Scorsese’s directed nothing but misfires of late, embarrassing himself, his audience & the Oscars into the bargain.
Clearly, whatever Paramount execs say, this is not an Oscar calibre pic. Now it looks as though Shutter Island is going to die a quiet death in February. Well so it goes.
Better luck next time, Marty.
Not that I consider this one of Lehane’s best books, but the twist in the story is what kept me glued to it. While making the movie, Scorsese did a fantastic job. He’s particular, staunch, and can even have fun.
After seeing the trailers, I understand his genius on this film. He made Lehane look like a master.
Well, I guess this frees up an Oscar nom space for Paramount’s GI JOE.
Universal should really consider moving Wolfman up another week now.
It’s a shame that anyone who read the book already knows how it ends. But it will be interesting to see Marty’s take, regardless.
OH I AM FUCKING PISSED. FUCK PARAMOUNT! I LOVE MARTIN SCORSESE, HE IS ONE OF THE GREAT GODS OF FILMMAKING — HE DEFINES THE WORD “AUTEUR”. HOW DARE THEY MAKE ME WAIT UNTIL THE NEW YEAR TO SEE THIS PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOO! This is the same shit they pulled with Zodiac and it killed it! Learn already you stupids.
Is it adapted from J.K. Rowling?
The trailer for SHUTTER ISLAND looked like a generic psychological thriller set at an insane asylum that we’ve seen countless times before. Nothing new here at all.
Only difference is that it had famous actors in it.
But beyond that, haven’t we seen this movie several times before?
Why Scorcese and DiCaprio chose to make this film, of all the options out there, is beyond me.
That trailer looks absolutely atrocious. It’s one of those things where they show you the whole freaking movie. And who was Leo’s dialect coach??? Looks like another Gangbangs of NY to me. Moustache twirling and all. I can wait unti February 2012.
I don’t believe “Leo is not available to promote the film internationally” explanation. He has done interviews with international journalists last month in London where he was shooting “Inception.” He was very proud and excited about the film.
Isn’t “From Paris With Love,” another adult drama, scheduled on 2/19?
@Flint: Dolgen must be laughing his ass off right now. What a huge, huge embarrassment for Rob Moore and Brad Grey.
rebounding DVD sales? hah
The trailer seemed to give the whole movie away, to be honest. Although I haven’t really been attracted to one of Marty’s movies since Casino…
Holy cow, I just found out what the ending of the book was. That’s the kind of twist that just punishes the audience for sitting through the story, whether it’s 400 pages or 120 minutes.
Harry: “I always thought the trailer looked terrible & Scorsese’s directed nothing but misfires of late, embarrassing himself, his audience & the Oscars into the bargain.”
You’re so right. And what do all of his films in the 2000s have in common? Leonardo DiCaprio. Every single friggin’ movie he directs now must include Babyface DiCaprio, and he’s been miscast in every single one. I’m surprised Scorsese didn’t lobby to have DiCaprio sing lead for the Rolling Stones in Shine a Light.
DiCaprio is such a lightweight onscreen – even when he’s fifty, the guy’s going to look twelve. And Scorsese’s insisting DiCaprio plays Frank Sinatra? DiCaprio looks nothing like young Frank Sinatra, and his high voice sounds nothing like him. Scorsese won’t have a shot at making a great film again until he gets over his Leonardo DiCaprio obsession.
why dont you read the book before you bash the movie and the cast. dont throw stones in the dark.
Totally agree – the others don’t seem to know what they’re talking about
I agree, concerning the bizarre DiCaprio fixation. Well, I bought into The Departed, perhaps because he was playing opposite Marky Mark. I anticipate Marty next casting him as the lead in a remake of The Conqueror. And casting Megan Fox opposite him as Bortai. That should finalize his legacy.
“the hardest hit segment has been movies that play to an older adult audience”
Which these days is what, anyone audience member over the age (mental or physical) of 13. The Hollywood marketing gurus aren’t doing their jobs if this is the case. I always see a million commercials for Transformers and GI Joe, stuff that you already know is going to be huge without the onslaught of advertising. It’s like the studios don’t even bother on anything else other than sure hits because they don’t know how to market anything unless it was based off of a toy or comic book. You don’t have to spend a ton of money to successfully promote a film (look at District 9). But then again, you need people working for the studios that know what they’re doing, and it appears that’s asking to much when it comes to anything other than a trailer you can put together of two cartton robots hitting each other.
I think we’re watching Hollywood’s bad business practices coming home to roost. They’ve reached the point where they’ve begun to literally price themselves out of business.
Rupert P. Bad idea For overture films PANDORUM because the studio already has the new Michael Moore documentary Capitalism: A Love Story, on October 2nd it’s was a good idea but it’s not going to work
So much NO, and one yes.
-no, the trailer wasn’t “great,” it stank from a certain staleness to the movie
-no, the movie doesn’t look appealing or original in either style, presentation or dialogue
-no, Paramount is not too broke to spend $50M on advertising, just too cheap
-no, I’m not convinced DiCaprio is not available to promote a feature of this caliber (though, of course, my presumptions about his schedule are just that, presumptions)
-no, the release date of Silence of the Lambs has nothing to do with this movie’s success or failure
-no, the horrors of expansion to 10 films has still not sunk in
-and yes, it’ll be easier for a movie – ANY movie – that came out in that awards “year” get nominated.
And now I’m going to curl up and try to think of nothing for a while.
Leo’s Inception shoot is going to go pretty long.
does anyone take this studio seriously anymore? And still, Brad has a job
Cape Fear on an island, isn’t it? With that boy from Growing Pains?
Yeah, Harry, “The Departed” was a BIG misfire, only won him an Oscar, genius.
I never read the book but this script is fantastic. Even though I thought it was a bit of an odd choice for Marty, I was excited to see what he would do with such a great story and an amazing lead. I almost threw up when I saw the trailer. It looked like a formulaic Lionsgate film, not the next addition to Marty’s amazing library of work. Pushing the date only makes this seem more likely. I wouldn’t get my hopes up people…
I agree that Overture should move Pandorum to that date. Going up against Surrogates is not a good idea.
the push to February worked for SILENCE OF THE LAMBS.
Whatever the reasons, there’s no getting around it; it makes Scorsese look like a dumped chump. Especially after “The Departed” did so well in every way. The whole 10 title Best Picture thing – that is one lame “cover” in the Seventh Inning Stretch of a film’s roll-out. Part of the problem with “Funny People” (I thought) was that the same trailer was in theatres for far too long a period of time. That can backfire. The picture starts to smell like “disappointment” or “orphaned stepchild.” Plus – if you start to have to watch the trailer again and again – you start to hate the movie on general principle alone. This matter also sounds like an example of how the distraction of a mega-merger negatively impacts many careers individually as a consequence of the director’s agent being “asleep at the wheel” because he’s raising the sails on the Good Ship Ego. Also : Couldn’t Media Rights Capital have given Paramount the money? Or Jim Wiatt perhaps?
I read the novel, and I found it pretty banal. Maybe they can do something to improve it, but the plot of the novel was generic and predictable.
The reason for the move is bonuses, Paramount cant afford to have this movie come in at the end of the year and hurt its OIBDA number. Lower year end OIBDA means lower bonuses for the execs.
Big789, Is CAPITALISM: A LOVE STORY getting a wide release October 2nd? If not, I don’t think the studio will have anything to worry about throwing PANDORUM wide that day. Anything is better then committing box office suicide against SURROGATES. In fact, they had a better shot against JENNIFER’S BODY.
But there is no big genre title that day, horror or sci-fi. And the posters and trailers for PANDORUM have been excellent. Be a shame to see all that effort go to waste. I think they got something special there and now they have a date that can work.
A whole lot of conjecture about how bad it supposedly is and yet no one in here has seen a frame of the film. I talked to one person who saw it at a screening and they were “blown away”. They actually compared it to Silence of the Lambs and Hitchcock.
But that’s besides the point.
It’s just a movie people, designed to make rich people richer and entertain you in the process. Is it any surprise that Brad Grey mentioned Viacom’s shareholders in his press release before he mentioned Mr. Scorsese? This is a Wall Street endeavor, not art.
Viacom versus News Corp – the choice is clear
WHIP IT, from Fox Searchlight, moves up into the SHUTTER ISLAND slot on October 2nd
Lots of haters here. I think the movie looks great!
You can do well with schlock in a dump month, but it’s ideally schlock with a budget closer to “Hostel” than whatever they just spent on Wolfman/Shutter Island. To the “Silence” comparisons: Shutter Island stars Leo DiCaprio as what appears to be deliberately generic cop character. The trailer promises that you’ll get to watch him drugged, paranoid, running around on rocks. Silence of the Lambs starred Anthony Hopkins blowing everyone’s minds as a cartoon cannibal supervillain. The trailer promised that you’d get to watch him tearing people apart.
SILENCE OF THE LAMBS was pushed to February because Orion filed for bankruptcy and didn’t have the cash on hand to release the picture..
hmmm…
Paramount did it again. Last year it was The Soloist and now Shutter Island. Based on The Soloist, I can guess the movie is not that great and it would look better for them to say the movie was not one of the top 10 Oscar nominated movies because it was released too early in the year than not making the list had it been released in October this year because the movie really isn’t good.Pure speculation on my part since I haven’t seen it.
But I can’t buy Grey’s excuse. Paramount has three movies that grossed in excess of $200M in North America this year, including THE highest grossing film of 2009 (so far), the excruciatingly bad Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.
So the film was scheduled for an October release for how long and they just realized that Leo wasn’t available for international press now?
Personally, I hated the end of the book. Haven’t wanted to throw a book across the room for wasting hours of my life in a long time….probably not since the atrocity that was Hannibal. I’m not sure people aren’t going to feel really cheated when they see the movie too. And I happen to really like both Leo and Marty. Just don’t think it was the best choice of source material.
Quote “You’re so right. And what do all of his films in the 2000s have in common? Leonardo DiCaprio. Every single friggin’ movie he directs now must include Babyface DiCaprio, and he’s been miscast in every single one. I’m surprised Scorsese didn’t lobby to have DiCaprio sing lead for the Rolling Stones in Shine a Light.
DiCaprio is such a lightweight onscreen – even when he’s fifty, the guy’s going to look twelve. And Scorsese’s insisting DiCaprio plays Frank Sinatra? DiCaprio looks nothing like young Frank Sinatra, and his high voice sounds nothing like him. Scorsese won’t have a shot at making a great film again until he gets over his Leonardo DiCaprio obsession.”
Whoever wrote this is an idiot. All three pictures Scorsese made with DiCaprio were nominated for Best Picture. Scorsese won Best Director for a film with a phenomenal performance by DiCaprio (who should have won the Oscar that year). So give up the DiCaprio bashing.
As for Sinatra — he had a rather high voice and was very boyish when he was young.
If Paramount is smart, they just release it for one week this year in LA and NY.
It might get nominations and then they can think about how to spend their PR dollars.
To push this film to February is like commiting box office suicide.
Theo
Guess who’s going back to Warner Bros.?
The trailer did not make me want to spend my hard earned dollars to spend 2 house sitting in a movie theater watching what looks like a depressing movie about Leo DiCaprio in a mental asylum. It doesn’t matter when this movie is released it will tank at the box office, because it’s a dark, depressing movie about a man in a mental asylum.
robyn, sweetheart it’s a horror thriller based on a best selling book, it’s not a melodrama about a guy in a mental asylum.
Yikes!
Why does Brad Grey still have a job?
Can someone answer this for me?
I’ve been asking this question over and over again for the last year.
How bad do things have to get at Paramount before someone lobs off his head?
I’m not surprised as the promo is awful. Leonardo’s accent is all over the place and I’m pretty sure I guessed the plot twist from a 3 minute trailer.
I don’t think Scorcese has made a really good film since the 80’s. His remake of Infernal Affairs (as The Departed) was bloated and lame compared to the lean and mean original.
Cut Grey and the senior staff at Paramount some slack. I’m sure they were very pre-occupied, excited, maybe distracted and overwhelmed about the release of THE MARC PEASE EXPERIENCE today. Releasing a Stiller/Schwartzman comedy in 10 markets, none of which are NY nor LA, must have had an impact on the SHUTTER ISLAND decision. All the holdover week 2 work on THE GOODS: LIVE HARD SELL HARD must have also strained Grey/Moore.
Rupert P. You are right About Pandorum moving to October 2nd Because Overture Films is crazy to even think about going up against Disney’s SURROGATES On September 25th Pandorum Should have made Fox’s Jennifer’s Body moved to the 25th plus If Pandorum Moves to Oct 2nd It will go up against Sony’s Zombieland The Following Week On the 9th It’s A good idea but It’s stilll box office suicide and I’m stilll mad at Paramount For moving Shutter Island From October Of This Year To February Of Next Year? Come on this Worst than Sony moving the Upcoming Action heist film Armored From September 18th to December 4th? Thanks to Overture Films Pandorum Which Was originally was to go up against Lionsgate’s Upcoming Action shooter Flick Gamer On Sept 4th Put chicken out. DAMN IT
This Sucks
Maybe none of us have seen it, but some of us have read the book and even the script and can say that what you get in the trailer about sums it up. Old hat with big names. They ignored the crappy script because they wanted to get going before the strike. It shows.
I just saw that about ZOMBIELAND going to October 2nd. Ok, scratch that PANDORUM move to the 2nd. Anyone for PANDORUM on October 9th? No horror or sci-fi that day.
“Shutter Island” was the only movie I was looking forward to watching in the next few months. This is a bad sign unless Hollywood is doing the same creative marketing for February like they’ve done for August in the previous years. I guess I could always see the Megan Fox lesbian vampire movie this fall instead.
Can Scorsese please work with another actor?! Enough with DiCapiro. He is not DeNiro and will never be ala Mean Streets, Raging Bull, Casino, Good Fellas.
Rupert p. you are right About Pandorum moving to October 2nd Bacause Overture Films is crazy to even think about going up against Disney’s Surrogates on September 25th Pandorum should had made Fox’s Jennifer Body moved to the 25th plus If Pandorum Moves To Oct 2nd it will go up against Sony’s Zombieland The Following Week On The 9th It’s a good idea but like you said it’s still box office suicide and i’m still mad at Paramount For moving Shutter Island From October Of This Year To February Of Next Year? Come on this is Worst than Sony moving the upcoming Action Heist film Armored From September 18th to December 4th? Thanks to Overture Films films Pandorum Which Was originally was yo go up against Lionsgate’s Upcoming Actoin shooter Flick Gamer On Sept 4th Put chicken out DAMN IT.
update Sony’s just Zombieland moved one week up from October 9th to the 2nd so it’s time for Overture Films should move Pandorum to October 9th instead of September 25th going up against Disney’s SURROGATES bad planning and it is box office suicide 100%
I smell a stinker! What with unwatchable Leo (his post ‘Catch me..can’ output was just too painful to sit thru) and Scorsese direction, I won’t be surprised if audiences will just give it a pass
So much for talent..nust be in Hollywood dictionary only
shutterscript –
the script was in development at Phoenix (medavoy’s company) for about 2 years prior to the writer’s strike.
This isn’t an academy award winning movie. I think Paramount’s only hope was DiCaprio but this isn’t the movie the academy will give him it for (if they ever do).
@shutterscript: you don’t know what you’re talking about and IT shows.
@Name 1:21 pm:
Hear, hear! You said it.
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Harry: “I always thought the trailer looked terrible & Scorsese’s directed nothing but misfires of late, embarrassing himself, his audience & the Oscars into the bargain.”
You’re so right. And what do all of his films in the 2000s have in common? Leonardo DiCaprio. Every single friggin’ movie he directs now must include Babyface DiCaprio, and he’s been miscast in every single one. I’m surprised Scorsese didn’t lobby to have DiCaprio sing lead for the Rolling Stones in Shine a Light.
DiCaprio is such a lightweight onscreen – even when he’s fifty, the guy’s going to look twelve. And Scorsese’s insisting DiCaprio plays Frank Sinatra? DiCaprio looks nothing like young Frank Sinatra, and his high voice sounds nothing like him. Scorsese won’t have a shot at making a great film again until he gets over his Leonardo DiCaprio obsession.
That’s funny-Marty should’ve had Leo D. singing with the Stones.
But-re: Lehane. He’s a writer who’s written two (only)very good books: Mystic River and The Given Day. Shelter Island underachieved as a novel and the others aren’t satisfying. Gone Baby Gone was a mess as a novel and a movie.
Marty won for The Departed as payback for the others in the 70s-90s which didn’t win. The Departed is a very good movie but in another year it wouldn’t have been in Best Picture territory. And Jack’s performance almost ruined the movie.
I can’t say I’m looking forward to Shelter Island.
I don’t understand why DiCaprio (who’s simply not believable as anyone over the age of 16 – instead looking more like a kid playing dress-up in his daddy’s clothes) automatically assumes that he’s going to get an Oscar nomination every time he makes a movie. He really is quite dreadful when you think about it. Sad considering he showed so much promise as a kid. Then again, so did Tatum O’Neal and look at her now.
Dorothy, sorry to burst your bubble but Leo is widely regarded as a great actor by people who know far far more about acting than you or anyone else on here. Nobody cares if you find him dreadful.
What is really sad is the Mark Pease Experience sounds hilarious. And it’s not even playing in LA. These guys have no idea what the public wants except for Transformers and GI Joe fair which appeals to white men. And I have no desire to see either but I do desire to go to the movies. I was so disappointed to see what they did to The Soloist.
I guess I realize if Brad Grey and Paramount don’t like a script or film then smart people, who love movies will.
Brad Grey never worked in film and barely went to the movies before he took the job at Paramount. He was not even film literate. He wasn’t friendly with directors, producers and writers and still isn’t. It is one of the most boneheaded and destructive hires to 21st century American movies to have him and then for him to hire people who know less than him underneath him… Sumner Redstone is out to lunch clearly. Gail Burman? What a disaster. Then Brad Weston who is a heartless skinhead of a man. He is so pathetically insecure he fired anyone that knew anything. Scott Aversano could have run that place. Anyone with a mind and a heart and who loves film. It is so sad what has happened over there. Someone needs to write a book about it.
I cannot wait until Nikki hires someone to monitor comments. This is a fascinating story from a number of angles — Brad Grey’s mismanagement, the expansion of the Oscars, did I mention Brad Grey’s mismanagement — yet there are all these flyover bozos who insist on holding forth on Leo’s star power or the Marty’s directing ability. Hopefully this board can exist as a place where people who work in the industry can air their thoughts in a safe atmosphere. The rest of you flyover soccer moms, go back to cutting up orange wedges and let the professionals have their space.
Shutter Island may have been in development at Phoenix for two years, but not with Scorsese. Scorsese and DiCaprio were just eager to get into something together before before the strike, they pounced, and it was rushed to production.
I saw the trailer and prayed that the writers or writer did not do the “it’s all a dream” thing in the end.
The trailer was that stupid.
Problem: The book’s twist has already been employed in
more than a dozen films in the last 15 years….it’s
old, it’s tired…it’s getting more annoying than the
“bathroom mirror” schtick in horror films…and it doesn’t make for Academy Award material…at least not anymore.
Like another poster said above this is lkely strictly a Viacom nees to make numbers in 2009 so keep the OIBDA up issue.
Dear m:
The day Nikki hires “forum police” to turn DHD’s comments sections into the exclusive domain of embittered wannabes without the social skills to deal with people who aren’t exactly like them is the day the site dies. You and I and everyone else here know that if the DHD comments were restricted to actual, WORKING industry “professionals”, its roster would total about eleven.
Hollywood is in enough trouble already without simpering losers like you insulting the people who keep it alive. A great number of us have already decided we have better things to do with our time and money than to channel either toward the onscreen masturbations of a coterie of people with no actual life experience. Your post illustrates that there has never been a greater disconnect between the entertainment industry and its customer base, but that’s your problem, not ours.
If you’d open your ears you might start getting the message that we “flyover bozos” who made TAXI DRIVER, RAGING BULL, and GOODFELLAS into acknowledged classics can read credits, and are genuinely puzzled as to why the director responsible for these great films can no longer make a movie without putting the same baby-faced waif into the lead role every single time. Those of us who still remember THE DEPARTED have noticed that it has made absolutely none of the same lasting cultural impact as the aforementioned films. We’re REALLY laughing our asses off that the director in question now wants the waif in question to play Frank Sinatra and Theodore Roosevelt. Still, you’d rather have a “safe atmosphere” in which no considerations of whether or not your product will actually sell need be aired.
Nikki, though she has from time to time expressed similar “flyover” sentiments, at least knows better than to drive her own traffic away by turning DHD into a controlled, exclusive environment.
Now go back to jerking yourself off in the bathroom of Bob’s Big Boy and be thankful we haven’t yet chosen to push you into the sea.
Regards,
Flyover Country
I saw the mediocre trailer for this stinker and it looked like a run-of-the-mill horror flick. Leo flashed his pretty boy looks, but it was a blah-fest at best. This one will come and go quickly, kind of like a snow shower in Chicago in February.
You’re being fed a lot of crap from Paramount.
This movie looks like a complete and total stinker — it has all the makings of a campy schlockfest.
Dammit Brad you can’t do this AFTER you’ve ramped up promo and all your posters and trailers say “October”, it’s the kiss of death for a movie. Look no further than your own studio for another great example (Zodiac) and that one didn’t even have the promo ramped up to this extent IIRC. Silence of the Lambs was almost 20 years ago which was a VERY different time for movies, the release slate was nowhere NEAR as crowded as it is now and of course that was a few years before the Weinsteins ushered in that whole “Overzealous Oscar Season Promo” thing which dictates that films are only eligible for an Oscar if released between October and December with very few exceptions.
I find all this DiCaprio hate amusing if not completely off the wall.
Just because a few of you hate DiCaprio and his paring with Scorsese doesn’t mean other viewers don’t like him.
And Shutter Island hardly was a solo star vehicle–it’s an ensemble piece with a lot of other fine actors.
It’s sad that Paramount got cold feet. They should just release the movie.
S.A.M.,
Seriously, no one cares about your film criticism or your view of what constitutes the canon. The majority of people who post here are industry professionals, but for us, the website is getting less useful because sanctimonious putzes like yourself insist on using it to bathe yourself in the scent of glamour. Go post on the AOL Movie Review board and leave me the hell alone.
Hey m…
You think the internet is a “safe atmosphere”. THAT is really out of touch. No wonder your industry is getting savaged by the internet.
Don’t you industry pros already have a “safe atmosphere” to discuss showbiz. Isn’t it called the Hollywood cocktail party circuit. Or the local haunts in Hollywood, wherever they are. I certainly don’t know.
You should get out of the house more.
You DiCaprio bashers are all the same.
“He’s got a baby-face.”
“He’s too lightweight.”
“His accent is all wrong.”
Yada, yada, yada. What do they clone you people? Go forth. Insult a 3 time Oscar nominated actor who can’t really act.
All three of the movies Scorsese has made with DiCaprio were hits, earned Best Picture nods and that last one won Scorsese Best Picture and Best Director.
Jesus. Get over yourselves.
I live near Boston. DiCaprio’s accent sounded fine in the trailer. A helluva lot better than that southern accent Pitt’s trying to pull off in IB. By the way, box office doesn’t mean quality. “Citizen Kane” didn’t set the box office on fire when it came out.
Sorry m, but you’re posting in an online comments section. That doesn’t make you a “professional”, it just makes you another dime-a-dozen loudmouth loser. Real industry professionals are busy, y’know, actually working.
We again kindly invite you go fuck yourself.
Best,
-Flyover Country
S.A.M.,
Ignore the snobs who are living up to every bad cliche about Hollywood. I’m an industry professional, and I personally welcome hearing your comments whether I agree with them or not.
Thank you, Rupert.
(m, let this be a lesson that true professionalism is a matter of behavior, not just status.)
HeyJude: “Yada, yada, yada. What do they clone you people? Go forth. Insult a 3 time Oscar nominated actor who can’t really act.
All three of the movies Scorsese has made with DiCaprio were hits, earned Best Picture nods and that last one won Scorsese Best Picture and Best Director.”
Yes, because Oscars are an accurate measure of what is and is not good. Nothing bad has ever won an Academy Award. The Departed then must be Scorsese’s best film ever, and Dances with Wolves is categorically superior to GoodFellas.
DiCaprio has been severely miscast in all his Scorsese films. The nominations for Gangs of New York and The Aviator came from the old Miramax publicity machine, and the films still couldn’t win with the full bluster of the Weinsteins behind them. The Departed is Scorsese’s gold watch – he’s too active to give a Lifetime Achievement Award, but the Academy voters didn’t want to let him kick the bucket without giving him a statue as they did with Kubrick and Altman. It won on a combination of a weak field and Scorsese’s return to genre, not any overwhelming greatness of its own.
DiCaprio needs to stop trying to be the next Brando. It’s not working. He’s clearly picking roles against type, and after a few more Body of Lies-style bombs, he’s going to have to do what he dreads most and make a commercial film that fits his lack of substance.
Pandorum is not good. Don’t hold out hopes on this one, I’ve seen it and I am generally a forgiving audience.
Gamer is terrible. Awful! And too bad for Gerry B who had nothing to work with there…
The script for Surrogates wasn’t that good either but it will open fine and then drop 65%…
All the idiots who keep mentioning about Oscar-nominated this and that are the same idiots who are (rightfully) complaining about the Oscars being watered down with 10 best picture nominations. Everyone knows that the Academy is just a bunch of film snobs. Oscars don’t mean shit any more in this town.
LTM, yeah film snobs, they should be like you, nominate Transformers for best picture. Give me a break, Oscars are given to great movies and great artists, don’t like it ? Then get out of town. You are clearly not an artist yourself and know nothing about the prestige of winning an Oscar. Go watch the teen choice awards, those are more your style.
Men who bash Leo do so only because they can’t admit to themselves how much they want him. Go on, it’s just you and the computer, silently acknowledge that I am correct. Leonardo struck it big so young, so he’s had to learn his craft in the public eye. With almost every movie he’s chosen to stretch and risk. He’s never done a movie where he just had to look pretty and collect a paycheck. What have you ever risked?
Is anything taking the spot of “Whip It”? Why can’t “Shutter Island” take that spot then?
So now all we’ve got to look forward to this fall is New Moon? GREAT. bwahahaha
Suspense/thrillers are not my favorite type of flick but this really did look pretty good. I have to disagree with the poster(s) who think Marin needs to get over his Leo obsession. I think Leonardo is a truly gifted actor and although I’m ticked to see it pushed back, I think it’ll do well in February. In the sea of mushy chick-flicks, this will be a welcome sight.
no, no, no. granted, the trailer is bad, but having seen an early screening of the film, i can tell you that’s purely a problem on the marketing end, NOT with the picture itself. all the cries of “generic” we’re seeing are understandable given the trailer, but this isn’t GENERIC, this is GENRE. the trailer doesn’t deliver because what makes the film itself work is its subtleties in pacing and character, and the way the artifices of performance and genre are chipped away, little by little over time.
scorsese has delivered an outstanding, Old Hollywood suspense thriller, through and through. it’s brilliantly executed, the script is BETTER than the book, and it blows anything Scorsese has done in the past 10 years certainly out of the water. even Leo, who i usually find obnoxiously overblown in his performances, really knocks this one out of the park.
nothing too crazy going on with this film, no bells and whistles, innovative effects or social commentary, just a great story, beautifully paced and masterfully told. the old marty is back!
Stop libeling Leonardo DiCaprio! He is a talented actor who made a good decision being Scorsese’s muse. One time, he direct DiCaprio to a Golden Globe. One time DiCaprio brought out the best in a movie which won Best Picture. He also has great chemistry with Kate Winslet. So why don’t you guys shut up and get real with yourselves?
Oh, sure, because no bad movies have ever won a Golden Globe or an Oscar.
–One time, he direct DiCaprio to a Golden Globe. One time DiCaprio brought out the best in a movie which won Best Picture. –
Bill, nope no bad movies have ever won an oscar or Golden globe, now you may consider some of the winners bad but nobody in the real world really cares about your irrelevant opinion.
Had they not spent so much money advertising their two big summer films, they could have released Shutter Island. And they don’t need so much money, District 9 did fine without a huge advertising budget!
Having never read Lehane’s book, it’s impossible for me to know just how much of the film’s been given away by the trailer. I personally like what I see in it, LA CONFIDENTIAL took place around the same time period (1954), and more than a few classic noirs dealt with insane asylums (Dicaprio’s “Pull yourself together Teddy” immediately brought to mind Dick Powell’s drugged-up dilemma in MURDER MY SWEET). Pushing it up to February does not make me happy. This and Hillcoat’s THE ROAD were the only two films I was looking forward to this fall. And then there was one.
It would be released tomorrow had they not moved it.
Having read the book, Leo is NOT the actor I had in mind. First of all, he still looks like a kid, and his attempt at a “Bah-Stun” accent sticks out like a sore thumb. Christian Bale or Russell Crowe is more in line with how the Teddy Daniels character was described, but with the film in the can, that ship has sailed.
Nevertheless, Since Marty respects the screenplay of his writers, I think it will be a very good film.
This film looks AWESOME!! I mean WTF guys? The movie hasn’t even come out yet and your bashing it already!!! Get a grip!! This movie looks like its gonna win every possible award.