UPDATES WGA: Verrone/Bowman Dispute John Wells' Campaign Claims
(DHD has been asked to post WGA West presidential candidate John Wells' rebuttal to the recent election message sent out by WGAw president Patric Verrone and 2007/2008 negotiating committee chair John Bowman:)
My fellow members,
When I was asked by the Nominating Committee to stand for election for President of the WGAw, I agreed to run because I truly believed that I could, by virtue of my relationships and past service to the Guild, accomplish more for writers than my opponent in this election, Elias Davis.
I was asked to run by the committee at the last minute because once the Writers United candidate, Elias Davis, had been identified, the committee couldn’t find anyone with any experience in recent Guild office or knowledge of recent Guild politics to run. Why? No need to look farther than the election booklet you received in the last few days. Anyone daring to express any criticism of Writers United and its past or present policies is attacked and vilified.
Though surely more unites us as writers than divides us as political opponents, I had hoped that this campaign would focus on points of difference on actual issues, like the necessity of quickly repairing our relationship with the DGA or the allocation of the Guild's diminishing resources.
Unfortunately, Elias Davis and his Writers United running mates have decided instead to turn this election into a prolonged personal attack on my character, integrity, and service to the Guild.
This campaign to discredit me reached a new low on Friday, with an eleventh hour attack by Patric Verrone and John Bowman, in which they claim, "John Wells has stated that he worked with Writers Guild leadership to achieve our last deal. We can state unequivocally that neither one of us had any idea he was working with the Directors Guild. " And that “What we did not understand, and still don't, is why one of our own would negotiate with the DGA without informing his Guild's president or the chair of its negotiating committee.”
Let me say simply and directly that Patric Verrone and John Bowman are not telling the truth, and that they know they are not telling the truth. First, I have never said nor claimed that I was “negotiating” with the DGA or that I was “working with” the DGA. I clearly wasn’t authorized to “negotiate” with the DGA and I didn’t. Nor have I ever claimed to do any such thing. Read your election booklet and you will easily find what I have actually said. It’s right there in black and white.
This is a deliberate and not particularly clever attempt to mischaracterize what I was doing to try and help our cause during the strike. The claim made by Patric and John that I was negotiating with the DGA is patently ridiculous on its face. The DGA is a wholly independent union, fiercely proud of their bargaining history and dedicated to furthering their own members’ interests. If I had tried to negotiate with them they would have rightly laughed in my face.
What I was doing was trying to find out whatever I could about the details of the deal they were planning to negotiate, which would inevitably become the basis of our deal. And I was passing on what I could find out to John Bowman and several other members of the Negotiating Committee whenever I had something new to report.
I was also trying to reach out to anyone I could find at the DGA who would talk to me and trying to encourage them to strive for a stronger deal than I had heard rumored they were prepared to ask for. I spelled this out in detail to John Bowman and another member of the Negotiating Committee in person on December 14th, and then followed it up with a very specific email on December 16th that detailed exactly the message I was trying to get to the DGA and how I felt we might make some headway in trying to get our needs across to the DGA leadership and negotiating committee. This meeting and email were within days of the announcement of the DGA’s decision to begin negotiations in early January. What else would we have possibly been talking about? Our Christmas plans?
Here is the truth.
While our own frustrated Negotiating Committee waited helplessly on the sidelines throughout the DGA talks with the AMPTP, John Bowman told several of its members that I was speaking regularly to the Directors. After the DGA deal was announced, John explained my involvement on our Guild’s behalf to the entire WGAw Negotiating Committee. I’m told that he said, “John Wells did us a big favor.”
And on February 10th, 2008, John Bowman sent me an email that said simply, and I quote, “Good work on the DGA deal.”
Patric Verrone and John Bowman are speaking falsely to you, intentionally mischaracterizing what I have said and besmirching my name in order to win an election for their colleague Elias Davis.
As they well know, I was in touch with John Bowman throughout the strike by phone and in person, and I logged dozens of additional calls to members of the Negotiating Committee. John and I had meals together to discuss the situation with the DGA before the strike, during the strike and after the strike. And as I clearly state in my candidate statement, I know I wasn’t the only one doing it. I’d also like to point out that in all humility, I have no idea whether any of what I did actually made a difference. All I can say for sure is that I tried to lend much needed credibility to our very strained relationship with the DGA, and John Bowman was aware of my efforts.
Friday’s email was yet another attempt to distract attention away from the most glaring fault in our leadership’s handling of our recent negotiation. In the midst of a brilliantly run and orchestrated strike, our relationship with the DGA was allowed to deteriorate to the point where – and I cannot emphasis how extraordinary this actually was – the DGA felt justified in coming in and negotiating our contract for us. How bad was our relationship with the DGA? Patric Verrone hadn’t spoken to their President for seven months leading up to one of the most important strikes in our history. John Bowman made no attempt whatsoever to create a working relationship with the chair of the DGA’s negotiating committee.
Even worse, nothing has changed.
Patric Verrone hasn’t spoken to the President of the DGA in a year, with the exception of one call, and that call was made only when my candidate’s statement began to circulate a few weeks ago.
And yet, I’m being criticized for attempting to bridge the gap between these two unions…and I’m being shamefully accused of doing so as some kind of rogue agent.
In a perfect world, Patric and John would publicly retract their dishonest statements and apologize for these ugly and highly regrettable tactics. I would expect them to do this in the same manner as they made their false claim: both with a statement to the LA Times and in an e-mail to you, the members. But I doubt very much they will -- it’s not the Writers United way. The Writers United way is to attack. Attack our sister unions, and attack their fellow writers who dare to disagree. Attack…to try and distract you from the real issues. And this is the perfect sort of Writers United attack, an email blast sent to the membership on noon last Friday, sent to coincide with the arrival of your ballots. Sent on a Friday when they knew that due to Guild email rules I could not respond to the membership until at least Monday after many members would have already voted. There was ample time to include these arguments in the election pamphlet so that I could rebut them, but that’s not the purpose of this type of attack. The purpose is to cause damage, not to allow for reasonable debate.
So now, to defend myself against these half-truths and deliberate misrepresentations of my statements, I’m forced to air even more of our dirty laundry and criticize the actions of the leaders of my own union. These types of attacks are not, I believe, in the Guild’s best interests. Should I be fortunate enough to be elected to serve you, I promise you this won’t be how I choose to lead our union. I would hope that should Elias be elected our President, he will make the same promise. There was a time when our politics didn’t mirror the sad spectacle that surrounds the elections of other unions in our industry. It’s long past time for us to return to the example of those years.
I want to respond to Patric and John’s last paragraph, in which they seem to be intimating that I will be unable to work with David Young somehow if I am elected. This is ridiculous. In fact, it was David Young whom I called first after accepting the nomination. I think David’s doing an excellent job, and I wanted him to know that he has my full support. I hope David’s going to be with the Guild for many years to come, and in that capacity he’s going to end up working with lots of different Presidents. That’s what EDs do.
Finally, I want to say that I hope this incident does not drive members away from Guild affairs. We'll get past this. If our unity is strong enough to withstand attacks from the AMPTP, it’s more than strong enough to withstand these kinds of political smears. Remember, our best path to strength in the next negotiation is a high turnout in this election, regardless of whom you choose to elect.
John Wells
Candidate for President, WGAw
When I was asked by the Nominating Committee to stand for election for President of the WGAw, I agreed to run because I truly believed that I could, by virtue of my relationships and past service to the Guild, accomplish more for writers than my opponent in this election, Elias Davis.
I noticed that Wells does not dispute the main point of Boman and Veronne’s email – that they did not ask for him to intervene in the strike and he then claimed that they did. He spends a lot of time talking about a lot of things in the paragraphs above but has no answer for that.
Wow. I hope Verrone and Bowman are classy enough to apologize, and I hope Verronehas the decency to withdrawhis candidacy for the BOD.
The sad truth is that strikes are easy to start and very difficult to end.
The fact that John is being vilified for doing what the leadership seemed totally uninterested in doing is stunning.
The sad fact is, we were led into a strike with no end game. An entire town—an entire industry, was left to hold its breath, wondering where the path chosen would lead, if in fact it would lead anywhere. A strike is a means. It is not an end. The only path to the end is negotiation, and the leadership demonstrated day in and day out that it was not interested in building the bridges necessary to restart negotiations; that it was far more interested in demonizing the people it would ultimately have to do business with than finding any areas of common ground. It created the vacuum that the DGA stepped into, and then lacked the vision to wring whatever benefits there were to be had by at least participating behind the scenes in the DGA talks.
That John had the courage to step in and provide a conduit for the WGA to take advantage of makes him more than worthy of anyone’s vote.
Glenn Gordon Caron
Thank you, John Wells. I, for one, am disgusted by WU’s recent mud-slinging fear-mongering swift boat attacks on both Mr. Wells and the truth itself. I want reason, honesty, experience and thoughtful guidance at the helm of my guild.
My God, this really is the 2004 Presidential election — a snobbish, ruthless and vicious incumbent versus a political lifer who is impossible to like.
That said, it’s impossible not to believe Wells’ version of events. People like Patric Verrone, whom I voted for twice, have no business smearing other writers. But he is a vindictive man (see the disgusting leaked black list). He is turning us against each other. And he has the nerve to accuse John Wells of helping management.
I will tell you that after witnessing this whole election debate I will not get involved with our guild. I can’t even believe you guys are volunteering for this. I mean save the whales, go help some kids, why you would want to submit to this is crazy mess, I don’t know. John Wells will get my vote only for the fact that I do not want to strike and the fact that the other side has not reached out to the dga yet scares me. If we don’t unite we will be striking again and the result for me and my family will be that I will not be able to afford to be in this business anymore. Forget risiduals, internet and everything else. I WILL NOT BE IN THIS BUSINESS if I have to be unemployed for 6 months and picket for five hours a day and not be able to take a job to help make ends meet. I can’t do it. I won’t do it in 2011 and if that means I’m siding with “the man” who’s friends with the studios so be it. I have faith that John Wells is such a politician that he will help work this out and working this out is not playing Jimmy Hoffa if we don’t have to. We have to talk to the other guilds tomorrow. Please, remember picketing for 5 hours a day. Remember going to the guild loading strike trucks. Remember how much you lost instead of gained. Please remember this. 2011, will kill this union. We can not strike.
Glenn–
The Guild did not cause the strike. The strike was caused by the AMPTP’s intransigence, and in fact, once the AMPTP left the bargaining table and did not return, the strike was no longer a strike at all but a de facto lock-out. Not to mention that leaving the bargaining table is actually illegal. (No surprise that the Bush administration Justice Department did not pursue, but that’s another matter).
Whether or not John Wells had the “courage to step in” is also actually immaterial. In point of fact, he did not have the RIGHT to step in. He was not elected by the membership, and whether or not you, or anyone else, supports him, the bottom line is he violated the very principles of the Guild’s democracy.
Oh, and then he completely neutered us with his phony “Dear Jim” letter.
I know the phrase “no end game” is popular these days, but it is completely mis-applied here. There was a clear end-game — it was achieving a satisfactory contract. Something that we were deprived of because of John Wells and other show-runners who threatened to go back to work if a settlement wasn’t reached quickly enough for them.
That’s not really courage. That’s just rich guys afraid of losing their fancy houses.
Yeah, John, I’m sorry you have to go through the mudslinging and all, but I hope you realize that there’s like a mountain of us writers out here who could give a shit about what’s said and will be voting for you even if it comes out that, say, you blew up the Hindenberg or are in a romantic relationship with Dick Cheney. I’m a screenwriter. I have my screenwriter-y buddies. People voting for Elias Davis strikes us as like voting for Sarah Palin. And that’s not hyperbole.
Shame on our current leadership for this fear-mongering swift boat attack on Mr. Wells. And shame on Mr. Bowman if he knew the truth and didn’t speak up against it.
Throughout this difficult election process, Mr. Wells has seemingly been nothing but straightforward with the membership, open to answering difficult questions, and focused solely on the task at hand, which is the future of our union. He has never, to my knowledge, stooped to “negative” campaigning.
His current conduct makes it extremely difficult for me to believe that he would have betrayed his own union by “negotiating” with the DGA without the knowledge and approval of the WGA Negotiating Committee.
Wells makes a good argument, and he’s not a bad guy. But we made strides last time because we were tough and demanded respect. And most importantly we held at bay the Jonathan Prince and company of self-interested turncoats who are ready to turn in the guild at the first opportunity. We need strength to do this again, and that’s Davis.
I’m going to pass on voting for a producer.
HE’S A FUCKING PRODUCER.
End of argument.
Voting for Wells is ridiculous.
My feeling is that if John Wells didn’t have the courage of his convictions to address his “Dear Jim” letter to “Dear Fellow Writers”, what else doesn’t he have the courage to do? Someone once said that a lie is a very poor way to introduce yourself… and I would say to John Wells, maybe I’d believe you about some of the other things people say you lied about if you had only been honest in the first place. “Dear Jim” was a sneaky, manipulative way of making your points. I think you have made the best case against your own candidacy through your own actions during our last strike.
Hey Working Actor #274:
You say: “I’m going to pass on voting for a producer.
HE’S A FUCKING PRODUCER.
End of argument.”
Want to guess what Patric Verrone’s title was on Futurama?
You are apparently unaware that, in television, PRODUCERS are WRITERS.
Working actor, for your information, Patrick Verrone is also a producer. As is John Bowman. As are many of our best past and present board members and presidents. That’s what a showrunner is – a writer who produces. Because he/she has risen to that level after a career of solid writing work.
And frankly, I’d like to see Elias Davis try to mobilize a single showrunner to strike ever again after the remarks his supporters have made about those who hold the title of “producer” in recent correspondence. Those of us who write and produce are just as much members of this guild as those who only write. If you don’t like that, you’ll have to change the WGA constitution.
Brian Scully, I guess you didn’t go to any candidate outreach evenings. Mr. Wells has addressed his letter.
I walked the picket line every day. Wells’s public endorsement of the DGA deal within hours of its announcement was like a body blow. It sickened me. The whole idea that it is in the power of writers to repair the relationship with the DGA, when that union has made sacred the vain and dishonest possessory credit, is preposterous to me. Wells is collaborative, yes, but with the wrong union members.
Bottom line: Follow the money. He is a producer. Labor peace makes him rich. He is immune to the survival issues of the rank and file.
I would never vote for him.
To “Writer/Produer”,
Maybe John Wells wouldn’t have had to address his letter at outreach meetings if he had addressed it properly and honestly in it’s original form. And along that same line, maybe you should consider standing up for your own views by signing your name, and not “Writer/Producer”. I have said all I feel I need to say, and I am proud to have said it under my own name.
You write? Have you ever wanted to direct? To have better and cleaner and clearer control over your material? To take the fight to the suits with more power, to follow your vision all the way through?
Thats what John Wells does in TV. That’s what ambitious, visionary, world-altering writers do in TV. They become showrunners. They CREATE A WORLD and they FIGHT FOR IT. They make it so real that the unbelievers and the deniers shrink and shudder and hide away. They make MONEY for the bastards and shut their asses up and change the world with their visions.
If you don’t aspire to that, fine. excoriate it. But it is power. Writer power. The greatest power a writer can have.
Long Memory:
You are being sadly naive about how guild politics work in the real world. You may not like the DGA, you may not like the possessory credit, but the reality is: the DGA was negotiating before us. This has been explained many times before, but if the DGA had made a deal that was unacceptable to the WGA, we would have rejected it, and many of our members would have started crossing picket lines. The DGA had no idea of knowing what we wanted (because our leadership at the time had chip-on-my-shoulder attitudes like yours). If Wells had not helped out (per Bowman’s & others on the negotiating committee’s request) our strike would have collapsed.
As Bowman told members of the negotiating committee: “Wells just did us a favor.”
Please take some time before voting to educate yourself on the realities of how Guild politics work in your industry.
Working Actor #274: Are you sure you’re not Working Writer #274 — a PRODUCER who jumps credit?
In the Know
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
Fuck it. Financial core. Fi-core, baby. This union is doomed. Get out while you can.
I promised myself that I wouldn’t post anymore here. I’ve already visited my family this summer and don’t need to feel any worse about the ups and downs of my career (what with the inevitable mudslinging that occurs when someone foolishly posts here under their own name).
And yet, for some stupid reason, I just have to say I have lost all respect for Patric and John, and it makes me sad, because they had my respect.
Leave aside everything that John Wells has rebutted, and turn your attention the the “class baiting” that John and Patric have resorted to by alleging that the interests of the membership are not well served by “an Executive Producer.”
Patric and John have both been Executive Producers. They’re just hoping that there is enough qualified voting membership who won’t bother to imdb them, and will be guided by this missive into turning their economic frustration into votes.
The reason this saddens me is that it is exactly this kind of “class baiting” that Rosenberg used with SAG (another crazy union I belong to) leading to SAG becoming the laughingstock of our business, much to the delight of the AMPTP.
This is an effort to get out the votes by alleging that anyone successful is Satan, a shill of “the man.” What a load of crap, and I really thought Patric and John would be above that. Others like Paul Haggis and Phil Alden Robinson who support the Writers United slate were classy in their endorsements, why couldn’t the founders of the group echo their tone?
Gee Patric, I guess we’re not all in this together, are we? I guess we’re supposed to vote for Elias, who seems like a perfectly lovely man, because he (unlike you and John Bowman) has never been an evil Executive Producer.
Whatever you think about any of this, I believe that John Wells is being sincere when he tells you that the AMPTP is watching, and whomever you support, please vote.
Please.
There’s a big difference between writer/producers and what Wells does.
He’s by far mainly a producer.
Let’s pretend we all actually know something about the business.
Not like it matters. The time to stand strong was the last contract and Wells letter did not help. I’m not interested in his kind. Current profits for future suffering is pathetic. That’s what he stands for.
I supported Verrone’s Writers United through two elections and a strike. But they refuse to listen to members who may disagree, don’t admit failures (the reason our contract is in arbitration is not b/c the amptp are big bad bullies, but b/c our leaders are incompetent), and try to Swiftboat their opponent.
This time I’m voting for the adult – John Wells.
Because a real working writer knows striking isn’t the FIRST resort.
I don’t know how the order of negotiations or the impact a crappy DGA deal would have had on our deal has anything to do with Wells’s lie that the WGA is responsible for our shitty relations with the arrogant quislings at the DGA. Their agenda is not ours and never will be. The only time they will show real respect for our demands is when their hasty compromises don’t break our unity.
Bowman himself is an unreliable source in any discussion of what did or didn’t happen in the last days of the strike when we could have made the most gains by disrupting the Oscars. The AMPTP really thought we were going to do it and were ready to conceded several key demands, but Bowman, pushed by a group of scab E.P’s who worked through the strike, as well as himself suffering from mental, emotional, and physical exhaustion, folded. At the critical moment when we had the most leverage, the combined effects of Bowman’s failure of nerve, the betrayal of senior executive producers and an exhausted and confused (thanks so much, John Wells), lead to a conclusion of the strike. We were so close, which is why Wells acted when he did. To all the pissants who think things are going to be better under a Wells administration, ask yourselves this: Why would they give John Wells a better deal than Elias Davis could get? No, really. What possible motivation could they have for giving us a better deal? How in the name of creation does that make any sense?
During the strike, a group of about 40 Writer/Directors got together at Billy Ray’s house to discuss how to improve relations between the guilds. These efforts helped bridge a gap and remind Gil Cates that there’s tremendous overlap in membership and goals. Steven Gaghan, Scott Frank, Steve Zailian, Lawrence Kasden, Ed Solomon, Callie Khouri and many other heavy-hitters were working hard to get WGA input into the DGA negotiations. Obviously, John Wells helped, but he was not the only WGA member communicating with the DGA during that critical time.
Please go to the meeting Wednesday. Please keep an open mind. Please ask both John and Elias the tough questions facing our guild. Then make up your mind. And please vote.
So, why should we castigating John Wells for being a successful and powerful writer-producer?
Isn’t that what all of us WGA writers want to be?
Those of you who seem to think we (or in this case John Wells) lose our souls and our hearts by the addition of a hyphen could not possibly have either to begin with.
Why side with people with no hearts.
I’m with Wells.
Like I wrote previously… during the strike, teamsters would ask me why should they respect the WGA strike line if Wells himself didn’t by going out and directing episodes.
If you feel like you’ve seen substantial gains from the Strike, stay with Writers United. If you think it was all a bunch of rah rah bluster that could have been just as easily been won with a competent, adult negotiating team, vote for Wells.
I personally will not see the money I lost over the life of this or the next three contracts. To believe, like I did at the time, that this was akin to striking for health and pension issues…I’m ashamed.
Anyone who claims John Wells is primarily a producer is actually communicating one or more of the following:
a.) They themselves are not WGA members.
b.) They don’t understand TV writing or credits, at all.
c.) They’re unaware Patric Verrone is a *gasp* producer… as are many of the BoD and NegComm.
d.) They’re spreading an empty meme they know is a lie.
Working actor #274 clearly doesn’t know a thing about this business or John Wells.
I want a WGA president who makes his or her living writing scripts, as I do. Elias Davis hasn’t had a writing credit for the past FOURTEEN YEARS (www.imdb.com). How on earth does he put himself forward to lead a guild of working writers? We entrusted him with the WGA treasury, and the results have been dire. Whatever our differences and factions, can anyone really vote for this guy with a straight face?
In the months leading up to the strike, Patric Verrone talked about a strategy of “collective bargaining.” He stressed it was vital that the guilds come together and negotiate as one, much in the same way that the studios had come together under the AMPTP banner. However, when Verrone was asked about the status of relations between the WGA and the DGA, he went utterly and completely silent. When asked the WGA’s strategy if the DGA negotiated a deal before the WGA, again, he fell silent.
After the DGA had negotiated a deal, Verrone and the WU leadership attempted to create a false notion that showrunners/EPs were pressuring the leadership to take the deal, when in reality, no such pressure was ever brought to bear on the leadership.
Now, we are faced with the reality that Verrone will say anything, even outright lie to the membership, in an attempt to continue his leadership role in the WGA and support his cronies who are running for office.
This is not leadership. It is self-interest.
The strike was handled wonderfully, in no small part because it helped protect the Verrone/WU power base.
The actual negotiations were handled horribly because the issues and economics and realities of the business were beyond the grasp of Verrone and, quite frankly, the negotiations were entirely out of his hands once the DGA stepped in.
Our choice is clear. Stick with the status quo and retain a leadership that uses lies and demagoguery to maintain its position of power. Or move on and elect a leadership that is interested in the well-being of its members first and foremost.
Sadly, in years to come our recent strike will be viewed as a terribly mismanaged failure. Some already see the truth about it. Others, understandably, still have difficulty looking at the whole picture. It’s hard to admit the price we paid was not worth the gain, which shouldn’t even have to BE in arbitration. However much we lost in dollars, we lost more in respectability. I’m saddened by WU’s attempt to divide our union into two classes. Can you imagine the DGA ever doing that?
Elias Davis is going to try to appear above the fray of now-exposed lies and Swiftboating his slate has engaged in the past few days. Don’t fall for it. Elias He’s a very nice man, but Davis not have what it takes to take us into the coming years
If the writers (a union only by virtue that they’re signed on to a collective bargaining agreement) can’t see how they’re being manipulated in this process, they deserve the presidency of John Wells. Amateurs.
There’s been mud slinging on both sides, aggressive politics from two different factions with very different visions of the direction the union will take in the coming year in an incredible landscape of instability and change. While the mud slinging is not pretty, the passion actually is healthy; one only hopes we can continue to show this passion in a unified manner after this election is over.
This being said..
To me it seems very simple: to view a negotiation between writers and the AMPTP in this day and age as anything but a flat out fucking fist fight is fooling yourself, no matter how we make nice to get our work done. That’s what it is, a fist fight for survival, it’s never been pretty, and it’s only going to get uglier over the coming years.
But make no mistake hand holding, including with the DGA, who, let’s face it, has undercut the WGA for decades and shows no sign of ever changing, is, well, pure fantasy on the part of those who don’t want to ever strike again lest they be all but guaranteed fat checks in their mail box every month for their effort.
But you know and I know there is no guarantee ever. One hopes for the best, but one can never know. So it all depends on how you want to fight this fight. Although I can find no consensus about what was one or lost, whether the strike was a success or failure, which is very strange, it certainly won us a modicum of respect that I have not felt in my ten years as member of the WGA. It’s important, this respect, that we are willing to go out and fight. If an industry doesn’t fear that they will reduce us to nothing, I don’t care how much money the guy at the top of the pyramid has made for the other side.
Hand holding and dining out together is not the way to preserve what we’ve gained, nor make gains in the future. Read your history writers, this strategy of hopeful negotiations has never worked geo-politically nor in labor relations. However, if anyone can give me an example of this strategy working in history I would be more that happy to hear it. So please, correct me if I’m wrong. Nothing has ever been gained for labor through nice guy tactics.
I truly hope you all can continue to pay for your mortgages and your kids private schools so they don’t have to ever sit down in an L.A. Unified classroom like mine do, but seriously, (and now comes the bad cop) grow up and find your spine to fight for something other than your wallet. For once. Please. I’m begging you. Not only will we gain more in the long run, not only might we never, ever have to see a credit like “A Film By Brett Ratner,” (sorry Ratner, it’s a joke, kind of) but our own films, TV and multimedia might turn out to be a bit better for our character too…I believe that, because you know and I know that 90 percent of what we produce is…well, crap.
So do the math and make your choice, acknowledge it is in fact a “fight,” or try to make nice.
But whatever your heart is vote accordingly. Vote.
Your livelihood depends on it.
John,
You don’t seem to like the rogue agent description, even though when you ran that “it’s a great deal” post on Craig Mazin’s blog, I’m not sure what else we should take you as. But fine. Let’s put aside your dealings with the DGA.
I’m still confused as to your hosting a dinner with the Scott Franks, Paul Attanasios, Aaron Sorkins et al, to put pressure on the Guild to end the strike. That to me feels akin to the Union Dues meetings in 1988 when Bochco et al put pressure on the strike to end to serve their high-end showrunner financial needs. Which is your right, but honestly, I just don’t think anyone who was having those kind of meetings to end the strike to just serve the A-listers — I know, I know, you guys were also concerned about the bellow-the-line people and crew people out of work, right — but I still don’t think anyone who was having a meeting like that should be in charge of the Writers Guild of America. Those aren’t the small-d democratic ideals that I’d hope my union president to have.
Respectfully yours,
A former writer on one of your shows
I still don’t understand why any creative person would want to give any kind of control over his/her product to either management or union. So much has been made of new media and not giving management the power over nm that was given to it over video/dvd. Why then are we willing to give that power over to the union? The leaders make money while creatives walk the lines. Draw interest on payments made to them by management. Spend their time in-fighting while others make sacrifices for which they take the credit.
There may be strength in numbers but have you recouped what you lost when about 40% of the membership elected to go out on strike? Yes, it was 90% of those who voted but only about half the membership voted.
No matter what anyone says, the vast majority of creatives are looking for that deal that will give them the ability to say “Screw you” to both management and union.
Why not work together as a true creative guild rather than as a union based on a model that doesn’t work in the creative world? No disrespect meant to any member of any union. No picture gets made without the truck drivers, the cooks, the make-up people, hey and even the money people. Creatives want the studios to pony up miilions for which creatives are not at risk but crucify them as profiteers during any negotiation.
It is time to rise up not just against management but against union leaders who – for the most part – don’t truly give a damn about anything other than making names for themselves and being on the union dole.
“Why would they give John Wells a better deal than Elias Davis could get? No, really. What possible motivation could they have for giving us a better deal?”
The AMPTP is never motivated to give the WGA leadership a better deal no matter who is president.
However, I would rather have a savvy, intelligent leadership that knows the economic structure of the business fighting for a deal, as opposed to a leadership that negotiates in complete ignorance.
And as for teaching Working Writer a lesson about union history, that seems pointless. This individual has bought completely into the Verrone propaganda that the WGA has only made gains by way of striking.
Working Writer’s comments fly in the face of WGA negotiation history and conveniently ignore the fact that John Wells has said over and over again that the WGA must be prepared to strike and that a strike threat is a very real and important tool for WGA negotiators.
@Working Writer:
The belief that we should stop fighting for more money and start fighting to stop the possessory credit is exactly why this guild is nearly non-functional.
RE: JOHN WELLS
“I’m still confused as to your hosting a dinner with the Scott Franks, Paul Attanasios, Aaron Sorkins et al, to put pressure on the Guild to end the strike. Which is your right, but honestly, I just don’t think anyone who was having those kind of meetings to end the strike to just serve the A-listers should be in charge of the Writers Guild of America.”
YES! YES! YES!
I do not trust Wells.
I hate to detract from a spirited debate about WGA politics, but I must set the record straight on a particular matter. Earlier today, someone posted a comment on this thread, claiming to be G. Scott, a former WGA employee, and more importantly, me. I can assure you this is false. During my 10 years at the WGA, I was the only employee with the first initial “G” and the last name “Scott.” Moreover, I worked directly with three executive directors and several presidents, including David Young and Patric Verrone.
Throughout my career at the WGA, I had the privilege to work alongside dozens of writers, who like Patric Verrone and John Wells, brought their passion, energy, and creativity to the Guild, for the betterment of all writers.
That said, I was not ushered out the door by anyone. In truth, I was offered an amazing opportunity, so I took it. End of story.
For those of you who do not know me, I would NEVER invoke Hitler’s name. This is nothing but hateful and irresponsible rhetoric. It is my hope that we could carry on a passionate and thoughtful discussion about agenda, policy, and ideology without engaging in pillory or casting aspersions.
For the person claiming to be G. Scott, please do not hide behind my name. If you are willing to have your voice heard, I hope that you possess the courage to stand by your convictions and not falsely attribute them to others.
Finally, I believe in the WGA. It stands for great things. It represents the greatest writers in the world. It’s worth fighting for. Just remember to fight with honor and dignity.
Respectfully,
The real G. Scott
How come while Wells was President of WGA the “reality” shows (all with writers) became so big and unionized writers lost their jobs and careers? (As non-unionized writers of “reality” shows are much cheaper to hire.) What did he do to stop this?
He did this…
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/26/arts/26WEST.html
Yes, the President of a union that fights for writers forced writers to take a paycut (even against their contracts.) And he did so in such a way that they didn’t have the chance to find work elsewhere.
What a guy! What a great defender of writers!
Oh and then during the WGA strike Wells directed some episodes of a show so that the strike could go longer. Remember what Shawn Ryan did at that time when it came to directing the finale of his beloved creation, “The Shield”? NOT THAT.
Is anyone going to give an apology to the Real G. Scott? I didn’t think so.
I knew that “G. Scott” couldn’t be the Real G. Scott – thank goodness the Real G. Scott cleared it up.
Great Scott! Can it really be? The real G. Scott???
With great respect John Wells and John Bowman set the record straight and reconciled in a joint statement last night at the WGA candidate’s forum. All Board candidates presented their views in a spirit of warmth, humor and overall shared vision; the WGA is united going forward. Some in the audience complained that there wasn’t enough “rancor”. For now at least, rancor is going into our scripts, not into our Guild elections.