I’m told about 10 people were axed this week at The Weinstein Company. Its Hong Kong office is closing. And its UK office will be down to one person. Even though Inglourious Basterds has been doing better than expected at the box office, TWC still has to share the worldwide revenues 50-50 with Universal. At one point, Uni was nervous whether The Weinstein Company even had the $30M necessary to adequately release IB domestically. Because TWC had depleted all its cash reserves, taken out a $75M bridge loan from Ziff Brothers Investment, and put all of its other movie releases on hold. True, Basterds gave Quentin Tarantino his biggest opening ever, thus erasing Harv’s fears this would be a Grindhouse-like flop. But Basterds had a negative cost of $72M and a humongous first-dollar gross participation — as much as 25% — for Tarantino and Brad Pitt.
Then there’s The Weinstein Company’s release of its 100%–owned Halloween II one week later. The first in the Rob Zombie rebooted franchise opened with a solid $26.3M weekend back on August 31, 2007 — promising a newly invigorated franchise. Didn’t happen. Last weekend, Zombie’s fan-repelling Halloween II managed only a $16.3M debut weekend, which was a huge disappointment. Not just to Harv, but to others. Because several TWC filmmakers were told that the Weinsteins have to see how Halloween II opens before they decide how many movies they can open for the rest of 2009. Mind you, not how Basterds does. But the holiday horror flick, which is really where they hoped to make their money. I guess TWC’s recent PR offensive in the pages of both The New York Times and Los Angeles Times didn’t stave off the reality of their situation. It’s no longer a case of what Miller Buckfire & Company, brought in to help TWC restructure, recommended after its review (to release only 10 movies a year, at least four from Bob’s Dimension). But what TWC can afford. I remember how Harvey told me back when Grindhouse tanked that he’d taken his eye off the film ball. He blamed himself again during his recent media circle-jerk to explain why TWC is in dire straits. Oops, I used the “D” word. Any minute now, that’ll be Bert Fields calling from behind the scenes to say TWC is fine. But even though The Weinstein Co kept denying it to me, much of the senior staff departed in the past year, including the head of acquisitions and the head of production, as well as most support staff. Now still more employees are gone.
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Niklas,
learn how the economics work. The theaters take 46 percent domestically, 65% internationally. there are marketing cost and usually a split between distributor and filmmakers. Halloween is in the hole and if it doesn’t over perform on video and vod will continue to be.
Thank god someone pointed this out. It’s the bane of any distributor’s existence when people equate budget with gross box office.
In the UK you’re lucky to score more than 30% back from the gross as a distrib. i.e. gross divided by 3, less P+A costs (insanely high on IB/H2 – millions) = any independent success story at the box office needs to go on to big DVD numbers to recoup.
As far as the numbers quoted on Zombie, other than H1 (which was solely to do with the franchise reboot factor and nothing to do with his filmmaking – it was terrible) his theatrical results could sink a company just through cashflow. I’m sure they’ve cleaned up on DVD, but when you’re in a cash crisis the 3-4 months between theatrical release and DVD can seem like a veeeeery long time…
The Weinsteins are everything that’s wrong with the movie business.
The “cholos” Really? I thought the comment sections was moderated.
rise new hollywood, RISE
Trust me, we’re working on it.
I recently went into the LA office to meet on a project, and my immediate instincts were that it was and office filled with the walking dead. The place reeked of a Cancer that one might catch if you hung out long enough. There wasn’t even a receptionist. In the empty lobby you had a phone list and a phone put on the front desk for you to self dial. It was sobering. I ran from there.
The Weinstein’s have been screwing up for a long time now, and moviegoers know it. They have set-aside great movies and stories for opportunity, exploitation.
The HALLOWEEN disaster is a perfect example. Rather then trying to fix what wrong with the remake (although to them, nothing went wrong because the ‘numbers’ were good), they surrendered the story AGAIN to Rob Zombie who has NEVER made a redeeming movie or story in his career. Even if you scrap all the other films, and all the chatter – sit down and watch Rob’s H1 or H2, they are terribly written and produce awful movies. …and this was done to HALLOWEEN! The father of all slasher films!
It’s disgraceful, and irresponsible film making. And don’t worry, people get it. They understand that you no longer care about making good movies. they understand that money is the driving force behind all that you do. What they DON’T understand is why you are still in the movie business. Now would be a good time to take the remaining profits from the company and invest in new business, real estate, stock market, ANYTHING other then the movies that you no longer care about!
Hey Weinstein’s – why don’t you give All Good Things with Ryan Gosling a chance. That looks like the best movie of yours or give it to another studio who will do justice to it and give it what it deserves. You keep changing the date on that movie and I know if I was the director I would grab it out of your hands and never do another movie for you….
All Good Things is another disaster that is near unreleasable. They are smart to shelve it.
Yes, i agree with patty! What is going on with All Good Things? is not only that they keep pushing the date back, but there is 0 information about the movie on their website and their facebook. It’s like the movie is nonexistent to them! And from the reviews i’ve read from different people, it seems like the only “good movie” besides “nine” that TWC in their hands right now.
I think this is just the same poster that hates Rob Zombie posting over and over again. I think Rob Zombie is one of the most interesting horror directors right now, and the Halloween movies were hardly an untouchable franchise, especially considering the classics that have already been remade by much less talented directors (i.e: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Last House On The Left).
Here’s hoping Halloween 2′s lower then expected box office refocuses Zombie on where his energy should lie: original low budget horror (like he did so wonderfully with The Devils Rejects), not pointless remakes, no matter how hard they try to reimaginie a stale concept.
As for this actual article, I hope this is not true and just Nikkie’s normal vitriolic prejudice against Harvey Weinstein, as I’d hate to see anything negative happen to the advertising and release of “The Road.”
I think to back to the CURSED debacle. The Weinsteins are notorious on trying to cash in on trends and locking directors out of editing rooms (ie WEs Craven) who swore he would never work with them again and now they are begging him and Kevin Williamson for Scream 4. If they focused on good films rather than market trends than they would have better winners on their hands like they did in the 90′s
I love Viggo, but Brad is great in “Inglorious Basterds” and I think it is safe to say that others in the theatre my party attended would have liked to see more of the Basterds exploits and less of Goebbels and Landa going on and on and on. BP puts butts in the seats and is worth every scheckel they paid him. I hope he had a huge % of the profits.
Totally disagree. BP’s average U.S. gross is under $70 million. Will Smith has an average over $120 million. Brad is more a tabloid star than movie star. Most of his films that made money were ensemble pieces (BB, Oceans, Troy, ect.). Who saw 7 years in Tibet? Plus, Pitt can’t act. Can he do even an off-Broadway play? No!! Could he do any of the projects of a Daniel Day-Lewis, Javier Bardem, or even that jerk Sean Penn? NO!! BP is an over-rated actor and sex-symbol.
Calm down, “Curious.” In North America, a “cholo” is a Mexican-American gangbanger. As in “lean like a cholo.” It may well be a racist term (for Native Americans) in South America, but in Ontario, California, it’s all good, homes.
HAHAHAHA Michelle and Maeva were NOT huge losses to the company. You obviously either never worked closely with them (particularly Michelle), or are in fact Michelle or Maeva. The worst thing about them leaving was that they weren’t replaced– making an EVP of another department, a couple lowest-level execs and a few assistants do the jobs they left (in addition to also running said EVP’s own department) is ridiculous.
Also, to blackletter law: Tom Ortenberg left Lionsgate and has worked for the Weinsteins since February (possibly January) 2009.
Hey Anonymous – are you one of the persons that got laid off by Weinsteins? Just curious.
they shouldn’t have f^cked with Fanboys. it brought the dark side curse
Oh Tina, your shocking ignorance and bias is showing. BP is a great actor, always under rated due to his looks. BP is today doing his best work and fills seats worldwide and that is a verifiable fact. Studios know that you look at both domestic PLUS worldwide and BP is a master at making big $$$. Daniel Day Lewis and Sean Penn don’t pull in ticket buyers and SeanP is not about to go on stage (BTW just because one acts on stage does not mean that one is a good actor). Don’t know what your problem is with BP but suck it up, you are way off base. BP was great in IB and audiences love Aldo. Hope QT does a prequel about the Basterds.
Brad Pitt in My Left Foot or even Mystic River. Please. Brad a great actor. I would like to see your list of great actors. Would they include Ben Affleck too? Should not argue, because it really is a matter of personal taste. If I am ignorant, provide some some data to support your argument. Here is where I found his box office. http://www.the-numbers.com/people/BPITT.php. Again if it does not have an Oceans or several other well-known stars, his movies are not hits. He is not worth $20 million a picture, Will Smith fills more butts in seats than Brad Pitt. My point about the stage is that there are no second takes and you either have it or not. Brad would not try to do a play because his flaws would be on display (a la Julia Roberts).
I guess the economy has hit hollywood !……I don’t think the weinstein brothers are gonna go hungry,broke,loose their homes to foreclosure like the ”rest of us !!……..hey harvey how ’bout cannonball – 5…….when’s that coming out ??
They’ll be fine. Basterds is doing bookoo bucks, and when it hits DVD it will be huge for them too. Also, Halloween II, which I really dislike, is not in the hole. It may not have been good, or opened at number one, but it is only a $15 million dollar picture.
Not to mention, if you were to average the domestic gross of Brad Pitt’s movies over the last 5 years, it’s closer to $100M. Take out that Jesse James movie (which didn’t really get wide distribution)…you’ve got a figure over $110M.
Pitt has box office draw. Not Will Smith size…but bigger than Quentin Tarantino, that’s a fact. It’s also a fact this movie was sold on Brad Pitt’s name as much as Tarantino. It’s also a fact this is QT’s biggest opener, and will be once all is said and done…his biggest grosses overall.
One can pretend Pitt had nothing to do with that, and the film would’ve done just as well without him…but I’d say you’re just being naive.
Michelle and Maeva are huge losses. One who knows more… get over yourself and your personal issues. Grow up. People are not being replaced because they have no money. Simple as that.
Karma’s a bitch.
The last word on Rob Zombie:
http://www.creemmagazine.com/_site/BeatGoesOn/RobZombie/PastPresentFuture001.html
I heard from some people who screened All Good Things and they said it was very good. I just think that the Weinstein’s screwed everything up and won’t give this film a chance – they just release other movies that don’t do anything. Give AGT to someone else and I hope it makes tons of money for another company and I hope Ryan Gosling never ever makes another movie for these fools…
Scream 4 a crowd pleasing fun not mean spirited witty franchise