It’s well known that NBC affiliates are beginning to balk about this fall’s “Leno effect” drain on their late news ratings. Stations in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York report losses ranging from 22% to 30% compared to last year. And with the Jay Leno Show eking out just a 1.5 or 1.6 rating after 5 weeks on the air, and losing to a week of repeats even though it’s got fresh episodes 46 weeks out of the year, it’s no surprise that defensive Leno is going on the offensive since he admits his numbers will get even worse during November sweeps. Jay told B&C he personally called a “bunch” of the affiliates last week “just to get feedback” and noted: “Unless they are the greatest actors in the world, they seem to be hanging in there and say they are in it for the long haul. I called Baltimore, Boston, the head of the affiliate board. They don’t see it as dire as a lot of people are making it out to be.” Here is Leno’s best info from the interview:
– ”The first week, people kind of went after us because it looked like the old show.”
– ”I’ve seen some articles that are a little more, ‘It’s not Jay’s fault, its NBC’s fault.’”
– “I’m not protecting Jeff Zucker, nor am I hiding behind him. I could have said no.”
– “There is enough work out there, so people shouldn’t necessarily be mad at me for taking the 10 o’clock spot.”
– “I’m not here because the 10 PM period was widely successful. I’m here because nothing else was working.”
– “Lead-ins are important. On the nights when we have a strong lead-in, we are competitive; on the nights we don’t, it’s up to us to try and carry the ball ourselves.
“– ”The numbers seem to tell us people [who] are watching the show are staying the whole hour.”
– “I find that when I go to Vegas, whereas before I might not sell out, all of a sudden it’s sold out.”
– “This is our toughest period; Sweeps we’ll do the worst, non-sweeps we’ll do the best.”
– “Would I have preferred to stay at 11:30? Yeah, sure. I would have preferred that.”
– “If [11:35 pm] were offered to me, would I take it? If that’s what they wanted to do, sure.”
– “Conan is in the same position I was in when I took over.”
– “I wouldn’t trade places with Dave now for anything! I don’t think he’s getting a free pass.”
– “If it were me, it would kill me. I’m the guy who’s been married 29 years. But Dave has never pretended to be Mr. Moral America, he’s never set himself up that way. He’s not a hypocrite.”
– “Do I enjoy the battle? Yes, I get a certain amount of satisfaction from pounding my head against the wall.”
– “I do take a certain perverse pleasure in this. See how low you can go, rock bottom, before you can keep crawling back up again.”
– I’ve never walked away from anything in my life….This is what I do. You keep plowing ahead. If someone wants to take you out, I’m out.”
– “As long I’m making money for the company, I will be here. When I’m not making money for the company, I won’t be here.”
– “There’s an ownership change here every six months. I’ve been through nine of them!”
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Nine years of Jeff Zucker!! He’s single handedly destroyed the NBC Network and now is costing the O&O stations a fortune. How in God’s name has he managed to stay sooooo long. It’s a mystery all of Hollywood is talking about.
Jay had his best shows during the writers strike. Jay go back to what you did during the last strike.
I wish NBC would stop screwing around with the format and just let Jay be Jay. Bring back the desk, bring back the musical guests, and do away with the affiliate late news teaser cutaways. Did Conan whine about Jay’s lousy lead-ins? The Jay Leno Show seems to be designed by committee – a committee headed by NBC brass and the affiliate board. I wonder if Jay will grow a pair and demand greater say in the show’s format. Because his legacy really IS at stake, whether he wants to admit it or not.
I think everyone here is vastly underestimating how innovative the Two Chairs / No Desk setup is. It blows my mind everytime I click on the show by mistake, hoping to see some actual entertainment. Blows. My. Mind.
I work at an NBC affiliate in the Midwest and the people in our news room all believe the same believe thing: Leno. Is. Killing. Us.
We were the undisputed number one station in the city, but Leno is has made things far more competitive for our late newscast.
When Jay’s show premiered, they stopped airing Conan on Star at 10 (Now they show something called Dr. Oz). Was this also NBC’s doing? I figured maybe they forced Star to take Conan’s show off the air for a couple of weeks, while Jay’s show was still new. However, it’s been quite a while and still no Conan at 10.
Is this NBC’s attempt at reducing competition for the Leno show?
Jay thinks he has the 10 spot because it wasn’t wildly successful previously? No…he has the 10 spot because NBC was deathly afraid of him signing with ABC for the 11:30pm slot to crush Conan before O’Brien got his new timeslot legs under him. The 10 spot might not have been blowing people away, but I’m pretty sure some of NBC’s shows were outperforming what his shite is doing.
ALL of NBC’s shows last year at 10 SIGNIFICANTLY outperformed what Leno is doing now, by 30% or more. And, most of those shows sucked, too, just not as bad as Leno.
By the way, how out of touch does Jay sound when he basically tells people to stop bitching about the loss of the 10pm slot for fully scripted shows because “there is enough work out there”?
There wasn’t enough work out there BEFORE the ego-that-wouldn’t-die took over the 10pm slot. If I was any of the people that worked on SOUTHLAND, I’d spit in Leno’s face if I saw him on the street.
Jay should just be Jay. The perception is that he’s re-inventing himself for a different audience. I tune in to see Jay cause I feakin’ love Jay.
Get back to the basics. Be yourself.
They will come.
The people who are complaining about Leno’s effect on Late News need to take a step back and look at the consequences of the digital transition. The latest research I saw (yesterday) said that the transition to digital has cost the local stations, on average, 8% of their audience. So, it’s entirely possible that the NBC stations that Jay is speaking with are taking this into account and not blaming him completely for the downturn in their LN numbers.
I’m a fan of Jay’s. NBC’s not so much. In fact, I hate them with the fire of a thousand white hot suns.
Interesting. Too bad CBS stations are way UP in the ratings, and ABC about flat, which completely destroys your theory.
Also, apparently you missed all the articles where the afiliates do blame Leno for their downturn. Repeatedly.
Seriously haters? You all sound like spoiled cry babies. Yes, the job market is hard so guess what…work harder or train harder at either getting a job outside your field or take a job with lower pay. Maybe if you had less time on your hands to HATE someone, you could actually spend a moment opening your eyes to change.
Oh and instead of hating on just Leno, how about questioning Conan’s move 5 years ago? He put the network in this pickle by threatening to leave if he didn’t get the Tonight Show. In his last year in the 12:30 spot, he wasn’t even beating CBS. He knew he wasn’t strong enough to hold that spot but pushed anyways to serve his ego.
Face it, they all have major egos in the first place to be on TV. So if you have an issue about a TV show, maybe you should re-evaluate how you spend your time.